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i will never actually be able to love anyone else
i could care for someone and provide for them and tell them i love them but i couldn't actually love them like i love him
is it morally wrong to pursue a relationship with someone you can't actually love just to fulfill a desire for purpose and non sexual intimacy?
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>>43949641
Why do you lovee them?
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>>43949641
>is it wrong to use other people as merely a means to your own ends.
Yes. Duh. If everybody did that, then you'd get used for other people's purposes. We should not set a precident that we, the reason creators, should then be usurped by the very reasons we create. It's self-defeating. If you valuing anything matters, then you must value people, or you contradict yourself.

Using other people like that is hypocritical.
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>>43950120
do you believe it's impossible to value a person romantically without truly loving them? do you believe it's deceptive to show them love physically and emotionally while mentally loving someone else? i ultimately consider my issue to one of mental infidelity. i will never have the means to be with the person i truly love, so there would be no material threat to a relationship with someone else. if the person you pursue in reality never knew of your mental fixation with another and only knew the loving actions you presented to them, in what way would it harm them?
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>>43950354
>do you believe it's impossible to value a person romantically without truly loving them?
Yes, but the issue is semantic and whatever you say "romantic" means. You can at least normally value a person without truly loving them.
>do you believe it's deceptive to show them love physically and emotionally while mentally loving someone else?
Yes, if you try to decieve them about mentally loving somebody else. If they say shit like that they think you love them, then you shouldn't then use them as a human dildo or fleshlight by lying.
>i will never have the means to be with the person i truly love, so there would be no material threat to a relationship with someone else.
There wouldn't be. So there's even less reason to lie about it.
>if the person you pursue in reality never knew of your mental fixation with another and only knew the loving actions you presented to them, in what way would it harm them?
It would harm their agency. You'd be forcing their hand. It's kinda rapey if you think about it. How could they act morally, if you decide that you want them to be used for your ends? So, if you do that, and he lied to about volunteering at 20 homeless shelters that you never found out about irl, then you should be fine with him using you to make himself look better to you like that. See the issue? We're not being very respectful of ourselves as the origins of morality and reason as it occurs on Earth when we lie like that.

You don't have to force the issue like some kind of intellectual nudist, but you can't just let him think you don't love somebody else more if he goes and talks about that shit.



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