One of the primary critiques of Bl*nchardism is there are a litany of "soft," tangential traits that are on paper irrelevant for classification, but in practice treated as essential. Ironically, modern trans female culture (which heavily rejects Bl*nchardism outside of /tttt/ circles!) is so heavy with tangential traits and subcultural baggage that failure to conform is grounds to call one's classification into doubt. The effect of this is that I can read historical accounts--unburdened with this subcultural baggage--of those who are trans women (like Jennie June) and find them immensely relatable, but contemporary trans women not only exclude me from their circles but say I am not really trans because I am Weird. >Bro what are you even talking about dudeHardly an exhaustive list, but let's start: lesbianism, speedrunning, video essayists, computer science, Minecraft, Blahajs, defending bad localizations because caring is seen as Chud-coded, irony poisoning, and most insidious of all, boymoder culture, which encourages what is effectively repression.Alternatively, doll culture, if I don't have any subculture or interests in common with the "trans community," I get attacked for being a skinwalker, a f*mboy, not really transsexual, or "you just think you're better than us."Why does trans culture virtually define if you're trans or not? >Hurr durr it doesn't retardPlenty of you act like it does.
>>43956205>boymoder culture, which encourages what is effectively repression.No it doesn't, mainstream trans culture is the one that tolerates doctors raping you with "social transition" for years before giving you a spiro + oral hondose because "doctors know best and if you do diy you're like those scary 4channers" if that's not effectively repression then idk what is. Meanwhile hon caricatures are one of the main things that contributed to me taking the plunge into transition.>if I don't have any subculture or interests in common with the "trans community," I get attacked for being a skinwalker, a f*mboy, not really transsexual, or "you just think you're better than us."I'm not doubting this happened to you but I never saw it happen on any social media myself though i wouldn't be surprised to see it given how more and more people treat trans women as quirky males likely in no small part to these malebrain stereotypes. I especially find it annoying to see unironic kikomimoder theyfabs saying shit like "i wish i was a trans girl cause they're so hyperfem" or "i am more of a trans girl than cis girl because im ftmtf"This is why im lowkey scared of the gentrification we're seeing everywhere, today i saw the new microcelebrity on r/4tran unironically say "rapehon and rapestick are problematic terms", its getting grim
>>43956361>No it doesn't, mainstream trans culture is the one that tolerates doctors raping you with "social transition" for years before giving you a spiro + oral hondose because "doctors know best and if you do diy you're like those scary 4channers" if that's not effectively repression then idk what is.I think we're talking about two different phenomenons. I don't know where you live but I wholeheartedly believe what you say is the case in some places. That doesn't change that boymoders will often actively get angry at trans women who present female and pass. "Passoid" as a nigh-insult is the least egregious thing they do; they try to morally justify it with "well you're rich" (potentially untrue) or "you're a bad person because you pass." I can only speculate on the causes behind this, but if you pass it's not super uncommon to feel unwelcomed by the remainder of the trans female "community" unless you're fuckable [to them]. >This is why im lowkey scared of the gentrification we're seeing everywhereI've been on 4chan since 2010, you don't know the half of it.
these are binding social pressures needed to identify in groups, and the trans female social circles now evolving are just beginning to make use of them as cis genders have. what is to be seen is how quickly splits emerge, and under what conditions they can exist. anyway to stop being a pretentious pseud like i always am i think its because we are limited in number and many of us are desperate for connection.
>>43956423I don't have any trans friends (not intentionally just circumstance) so I don't really have much connection with these subcultures, but maybe there's an element where young trans people with supportive parents just integrate and live cis lives and then all these terminally online subcultures are people who have given up on passing. Like a kind of sampling error where we just see the worst of it online.
>>43956205these subcultures should not exist, they are an aberration. they are unable to talk to children, of course. and yet that same urge to reproduce one's own interests and aesthetics is still there. so they do the next best thing by artificially selecting everyone
>>43956205wypipo
>>43956549>but maybe there's an element where young trans people with supportive parents just integrate and live cis lives and then all these terminally online subcultures are people who have given up on passing.I think that's really black-or-white thinking. You can be terminally online and still not give up on passing/still actually pass! And all of what I said applies IRL too, it's not just an online phenomenon. All of my attempts to connect with the trans "community" in real life (at the behest of my therapist, mostly) ended really poorly because I was so plainly out of place. I've met up with one straight trans woman in real life and it went okay.>>43956589It's not just "wypipo."
>>43956205youre around too many young trannies that tend to form larger communities that you should definitely avoid. the smaller circles of slightly older trans women that have been transitioning for longer are more chill. generally its not worth talking to a trans woman who is under the age of 22 unless shes the kind thats really meek and generally on the hsts side. also i dont agree with blanchard cuz he was a terrible sexologist, but i see people that follow him as mentally ill so i dont resent them even though theyre annoying.
>>43956657I don't think this is strictly an age related thing. For example I went to a trans-related event IRL, the spread was pretty diverse, there were people who were in their late teens, people in their thirties and even forties, and the hostility they directed at me because I had abso-freaking-lutely nothing in common with them was palpable. Online I see a lot of 23-24 year olds doing it but it's hardly restricted to them (or younger), also.It's just common to trans people in general. I'm not a trans person, so it makes sense they'd exclude me and say I'm not trans.
>>43956616>You can be terminally online and still not give up on passing/still actually pass! That's true, I'm a little guilty of doing that thing of calling people's classification into doubt like you said. Different people end up having different criteria of what defines a trans person; for some its the process of transitioning while for others its a condition characterized by gender dysphoria. Is there any way to really resolve this rift? I'm not really sure.
>>43956707I don't see why it's problematic to begin with so long as gender dysphorics are prioritized in terms of medical treatment, and I've never advocated for anything less (while I still believe in bodily autonomy, for optics and respectability politics reasons it's important to take things one step at a time). I just want to not be attacked and to feel like a disgusting male for existing.
