how do you all deal with how cruel, evil, and confusing life is? do you have any spiritual beliefs that help? i can't cope with the fact that i can't change my fate/circumstances or overcome my problems, at least not without great difficulty.
You're overthinking it, the world is very simple
>>43956935>how do you all deal with how cruel, evil, and confusing life is?Look into Absurdism by Albert Camus. Any AI can quickly define it in a way that will make sense to you (probably).Just try to find love and beauty in what you like. You're just a walking nervous system trying to make sense of a universe that is indifferent and unfair.That's not bad, you can handle it I'm sure. Good luck sister
>>43956935Not well desuMostly by misanthropy coping, drinking, or sleeping.
>>43956935the world is dangerous and people are evil. but the world is also beautiful and sometimes people can also be kind. you gotta take it all in stride
>>43956935alcohol
>>43956980there is too many people. each additional human being adds an infinite potential of complexity to the world, so, this is what happens with 8 billion in a short amount of time
>>43956980it's not at all >>43957016>Just try to find love and beauty in what you like. I'm trying but i keep losing hope that life can ever not be horrific. But thanks I really think I should have killed myself back when i was 12 like i was in the process of doing but then changed my mind. Life is fucking sick. I had a dream where a voice told me "Some people choose to be tortured in this life so that they have an advantage in the afterlife" but there's no way to know if that's really true or not. And a shaman told me that spirits can lie and have their own agendas just like humans. I can't bear my fucking life but I can't kill myself either for a multitude of reasons so it's just torture i can't do anything but endure. >>43957045I try to distract myself with art that i like and sometimes eating things i enjoy when i can but it's not enough. And i despise almost all religions so religion doesn't help. My current problems can only be solved by having enough money, going homeless, or dying. >>43957499I guess so. I'm losing hope though. I feel like I'm powerless to do anything to overcome my fate. I don'r understand why things are like this. >>43957509You should try tea instead, maybe you would like it
>>43957578all the good teas have caffeine and I already drink coffee. alcohol helps me sleep at night
>>43956935i contemplate why things are the way they are until i understand. the short answer is natural selection: the systems that are best at propagating themselves are the ones we see the most of. this includes religions, governments, institutions of oppression, social stigmas, companies, patterns of behavior, beliefs, technologies, and basically everything else. if you want the world to be different you must consider what power you have to alter the selection pressures these systems are under.
There's no such things as fate. Even if there was, you wouldn't be able to know what it is. So stop despairing accept who you are and do your best
>>43956935read some albert camus. nona.
>>43956935Im a quaker. I think practicing love for other people, all people, is quite helpful. The other attenders can seem a little cringe, but taking an hour a week to see a consistent group of people and meditate on your love for humanity helps. I feel like losing faith in others is the main reason folks fall into depression.
>>43957604>if you want the world to be different you must consider what power you have to alter the selection pressures these systems are under. i guess so. i wonder why we even live in a world like that. especially why we live in a world where evil exists and the strong dominate the weak.
>>43957635do the quakers accept transsexuals
>>43957578>but i keep losing hope that life can ever not be horrific.Correct, and that's the whole point: you don't have guarantees that things are going to work out in the future, or that you'll have a good afterlife. That's part of the deep human condition. You can have faith (in God or any other religion that you like) in order to feed your hope and endure. But fact is we're alone.I'm going to say this though: no matter how bad it seems, it will pass, and you'll find that these bad moments will become a distant memory, and that death (through natural reasons, not suicide) can free you from all the pain that occurs and/or occurred.
>>43956935im a complete atheist, honestly i believe humans are naturally good. we had to work together to get to this point. though some people are too far gone
>>43957634as someone who has gone through a lot when it comes to suicide, reading "the myth of sisyphus" really helped me break it down. there is no point, yes. life is absurd, but there is something nice about it when you start to make it something for you to enjoy. suicide is an answer, the end to it all, but what good is it giving up when you can just learn to enjoy the game? I dunno, check the book out, its nice.
>>43957661>that death (through natural reasons, not suicide i think people who commit suicide deserve peace and happiness, not to be punished. the last times things were at their worst in my life, i remember writing a post on /x/ about being suicidal and saying "tortured souls deserve peace." i don't mean to dismiss what else you said in your last paragraph though. i just wanted to say that
you can easily drastically change your situation at any time.
>>43957696>but what good is it giving up when you can just learn to enjoy the game? i can't escape from living at the mercy of my abusive sadistic father and aunt, unless i go homeless which might even happen soon anyway. i can't get rid of the bedbugs ive had for nearly 4 years because of those pieces of shit either unless i go homeless and shower really hard somewhere and have a clean set of clothes to change into. i can't go anywhere except on foot because i don't have a working car anymore. all this shit happened because my mom got pressured by her piece of shit "guru" in a psycho western hippie Hindu cult that groomed her into it in middle school, to marry my father who turned out to be a piece of shit sadist with the personality of a serial killer or mass shooter. >but there is something nice about it when you start to make it something for you to enjoy ive been trying to do this for 3 years but its so fucking hard.
>>43957637it's the only way the world could be. the systems that propagate the most propagate the most, it's a logical necessity. evil dominates because the selection pressures favor it. for example, conservative ideology's primary survival strategy, imo, is to encourage the formation of strict hierarchies and power structures such that those most advantaged by the ideology are also in the best position to reinforce its continued propagation. it essentially lives in symbiosis with power by granting it justification. this is why conservatism loves capitalism, patriarchy, racism, etc. these are all systems that it can leech onto for survival and growth.
>>43957727yeah, you can also just straight up kill people you don't like, but there's this thing called "consequences" that happens when you do it. if people could really make things the way they want to with ease they would. most people are caught up in complex situations that can't be easily resolved.
>>43956935I don'tProbably killing myself this year, I'm just done with everything
>>43957839i hate reality. i even more hate duality/nonduality metaphysics because it makes it seem like reality is basically some giant infinite random "thing" generator and completely chaotic. it makes no sense. why is this happening??
>>43957882i feel you. i sometimes really wish i did it at 12 like i wanted to but changed my mind. now I'm too cowardly and paranoid about getting "reincarnated" to an even worse life or reality if i killed myself. things are so brutal and cruel here. we don't even know /why/ it's happening. what even is the solution in a situation like this?
>>43957927the universe exists because it is logical. that's why physics can describe the universe with math. we know illogical things can't exist right? the corollary to that, in my opinion, is that logical things do exist. i think the definition of existence is to be logical: logic is all that can be and all that is. every logically possible universe exists (note that doesn't mean every universe you can imagine, since not every universe you can imagine necessarily has a logically consistent like math equation attached to it), and ours is one of the few that produces sentient life.
>>43957706>i think people who commit suicide deserve peace and happiness, not to be punished.Yes, you're right. Sorry about that.It was just common sense from my part to tell people not to kill themselves.
>>43957655very much so lol
>>43957016If you recommend someone use an llm to summarise something you don't understand it yourself. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from a mindless barbarian
Deal with it? Life seems to be over me, so I am waiting for it to end. I'm not depressed or anything. It just seems pretty done idk lol
