Feminist tranny = AGPAnti-feminist tranny = HSTSThink about it. AGPs want to be women in every way possible. HSTSes love men. AGPs get their girlyfeels by calling themselves feminists. HSTSes see that feminism harms the men they love.
HSTS are effeminate gay men who transition because they are persecuted for being gay and people feel less bothered by encountering them when they pretend to be women.
Feminism is a mythological project built around an essentialized subject (“woman”) that has never existed as a coherent class.
>>43962844Not necessarily. "Feminism" is as broad as the people who label themselves as such are, and plenty of 20th century onward feminists (aside from the theory-oblivious liberal ones) have adopted anti-essentialist/post-structuralist critiques that reject a transhistorical coherent class of "woman."
>>43962893>plenty of 20th century onward feminists (aside from the theory-oblivious liberal ones) have adopted anti-essentialist/post-structuralist critiques that reject a transhistorical coherent class of "woman."Oh, I’m well aware.
>>43961583This is true, im HSTS and hate radfems without end. I fucking hate, HATE, all the trans bitches that larp as radfem. you know what you all look like? at best, you just really want validation, and see that as the ultimate path. at worst? you come across "pleass maam please gimme a crumb of pussy! a crump of cis pussy please maam! im one of the good ones!!!" pathetic ass bitch behavior. Its fuck radfem hour here fuck all of them all of them TERF hitler bitches. And fuck any of yall trannies that larp that shit.
>>43962979you wanna hear my schizo rambling? i actually loathe feminist as a concept of "womens liberation" you want womens liberaltion? be the next lenin, pick a fucking rifle and see if the revolution works this time. and even then you will end up rellying mostly on men. women wont be the bulk of soldiers of workers of fucking anything. feminism feels so fucking condesening, like its just constantly reminding you how weak women actually are, like we are helpless children. maybe thats why radfems lash out and seem to hate women more that anything. but they have no response! they hate men for oppressing weak women, but have no respond on how to actually be strong women! and i think its because they are afraid, they are too pussy to actually want to be strong. that'd mean giving up many comforts. why would a woman want to give up their comforts after all? well i would. i already have nothing. but good luck telling the rest of women to accept that.
>>43963051In addition to not wanting to give up their material comforts, as you astutely observe, they don’t want to give up the psychological comfort of their ontological/eternal victim identity narrative. They don’t actually want to be strong or dominant because that wouldn’t work with their slave morality
>>43963069i dont know where you lean on the political spectrum but i will tell you, this is something in general bothers me as a commie. all this "life will be better under communism" and what they actually mean by that. for me, yes it would be better, cause again i already have nothing. and even i would lose out on some small luxuries, like all the stupid shit capitalists produce, at first id be hard to adapt to not have it, all the easy junk food, the cheap treats, the plastic crap and electronic toys. the media, ect. but you leave that aside, its this idea that work would be more fullfilling, wages better, healthcare perfect. everything perfect! fully automated luxury communism! thats a fucking cope a pipedream, even if it was possible wed all be long dead before getting anywhere nearit. the true is that it would be hard, it would be hard as fuck to uphold a communist state, even in the ideal scenario where the us wansnt around. work would be hard, food would be hard, basic needs would be hard, because it takes time to build it, a long time, from scratch. this was true of the soviet union. but no one wants to accept that, no one wants to give up things. we as women, if we want to be strong, we should acknowledge being a truly strong woman would mean giving up things, would mean harsh work, would mean more violence. no essay is going to liberate women, no theory no books. work will.
>>43963196continued cause my post is too damn long, a woman working fields or a sweapshop in a third world country, is stronger that any first world feminist put together. it is something that sexist often say "you know, being a real strong woman would mean working construction and doing sewage work, would you?" yes! yes we would, we need to do that. these working women should be the voices of the movement. these women make the phones that you discard every year, the clothes that you throw out after wearing them a few times. but unfortunately even if they were at the forefront, theyd have little to say, theyd be busy working to say much and theyd lack the education to create a framework anyway. that is where i hit a wall on what we should do. but at least i can tell you this, we have to give up a lot of things and work very hard before we figure that out.
>>43963196Politically I’m a pessimist; my only political view is “we are powerless against the ruling class and we will all suffer horribly and then die”.I agree with your view that work is what it would take to liberate women (or the masses more generally), but I doubt that any one is gonna do that work. Because, let’s face it, no one wants to do it. As bad as things are now, they’re not nearly bad enough. Most Westoids aren’t desperate enough. We’re too comfortable.
>>43963234i actually have the answer but its one that bothers me because it is one that most women and even a lot of men would be opposed to, and that is that we have to actually be equal with men. and we have to actively lead this. in the scenario where "female lenin" exists and that revolution happens that means going out of your way to educate women on doing equal share of the work. just as much if not a little more that men so that we can grow strong a and used to the idea of us as just normal working people. and most importantly and very bitter pill to swallow, the army would have to be equal number of women if not a slight more that men, same for any enforcement. we have no normalize to women the idea of doing dangerous even deadly work. but again, this is the dream scenario for me, it would never happen.
>>43963277Yeah, this will never happen, because most women don’t want to do “men’s work”, which they view as beneath them.
>>43963291also to be a bit bio essentialism or however its spelled, wed get owned a lot initially. the rifle is the great equalizer, but men have been going basllistic with The Gun for nearly 500 years now and we havent. and our bodies probably give us a slight disavantage even with guns involved. even if you get down to drones and missiles, id be surprised if any woman is involved in any of that tech worldwide, hell id bet you any woman involved with drone and missile shit, its probably trans women.that is to say itd be a fucking meatgrinder initiallly, tons of women would have to die while we lear that shit. even in world war 2, the soviets turned into a meat grinder, thats how they won, sheer numbers. but even then it was mostly men dying to combat. the women that died died of sickness and starvation or enemy fire on civilians. this is a hard sell by any means you slice it, but thats the reality of it all.to put my commie grim dreams aside, the best i can say we can do as women, is at least stop being so consumerist and encourage other women to quit fake email jobs and idk, start a construction company or some shit. get a civil engineering degree instead of the usual bullshit. little by little encourage us to take on actual harsh mens fields.
>>43963345Yep. Feminism is impossible, because most women (including most women who describe themselves as feminists) don’t actually want it
>>43961583Exterminate women and replace with robowaifusI hate women this much because I always wanted to be one and it's not fair that anyone should have a life as easy as a pretty girl
>>43961583> feminism harms mennice try, moid>>43964178transition into a woman and let's see how "easy" your life is, retard
>>43964190A pretty young girl is happy because she looks like this. You are made full of happiness and a peace just by existing as something that looks like this. Half of the planet gives you free shit, affection, and attention. The other half lobbies for your gender to get more free shit and protection for life even long after you no longer look young and pretty. No matter how deformed you will be pretty to thousands of simps at total thirst saturation and you can never be alone. Your vagina has the monetary value of a medium-sized asteroid. Your life is an unending orgasm.>transition into a womanYou can't do that. Your perceived difficulty of life is how you've made yourself an ugly hon.
>>43964335Is AGP just sexualized envy?
>>43964368basically
>>43964335> You are made full of happiness and a peace just by existing as something that looks like thisYou really aren't.You only feel this way because you feel an intense longing for it and you know that having it would give you relief. Women, including the pretty ones, absolutely do still struggle with self-image, self-confidence, self-acceptance and so on, because you're never enough. Even if you're skin and bone, you could always be thinner, and so on.> Half of the planet gives you free shit, affection, and attention. This is not a realistic vision. When men are nice to you, it is usually with ulterior motives. They don't see you as a person, they see you as a vending machine that outputs sex if you put enough kindness points in.> The other half lobbies for your gender to get more free shit and protection for life even long after you no longer look young and pretty."Women are human and should have human rights" somehow turning into this thing you wrote is... sure...> You can't do that.Yeah, that was pretty dismissive of me, you can transition but it wouldn't make you look like the pretty women that you were talking about, it would just make you look like an average woman at best. But be fair to me here, you absolutely deserved it for talking about "exterminating women", when women are the most precious thing on the planet. Including the trans ones and the ugly ones and excluding the hateful transphobes.Your idea of what women's lives are like is taken straight out of MGTOW propaganda from ten years ago. Having supportive cisgender friends healed me and it could heal you too but you can't look at women like this :(
>>43964380Would explain why AGP is more common in western countries.
>>43964393>Women, including the pretty ones, absolutely do still struggle with self-image, self-confidence, self-acceptance and so on, because you're never enough.Straight men would (and do) drag balls through a pit of scalpels to experience average-woman-at-best level of being desired in life even once: see AGP>When men are nice to you, it is usually with ulterior motives.You should learn that there is no suffering or harm in getting used as a woman, in the end, it's what they were built for, and it's more free shit, training wheels, and attention and any crisis works out for a girl usually in a matter of hours. Unfortunately male thirst makes the world turn on its axis and just maybe with young women being out of fucking control and that state waging a war on young men on behalf of them, that gynocentrism is coming to an end>women are the most precious thing on the pl...Never mind
>>43964519> You should learn that there is no suffering or harm in getting used as a woman, in the end, it's what they were built forYou're a woman. If it's what they were built for then it's what you were built for too, retard.> young women being out of fucking control How dare they want to be more than broodmares?!> state waging a war on young men on behalf of themThe same state that's actively taking away women's rights and discrimination protections? kek> Never mindI can't fix you.
>>43964561There is nothing to fix, you are agreeing with us if you say "women are the most precious thing on the planet". This is what drives my AGP: to be desirable, to be valuable.
>>43964400When there is extreme hatred and jealousy of the privileged gender that is oppressing us, it blends together with sexual desire easily
>>43964585Women are not oppressing you, woman.
>>43961583>Feminist tranny = AGP>Anti-feminist tranny = HSTS> looks inside the thread> most violently misogynistic AGPs imaginablekekw
>>43964561I'm a man and unfortunately our biological purpose for most of us who are ugly was to be meat shields by the billions in hunting expeditions and wars so that we do not cause too much destabilization in our fruitless pursuit of fertile vaginas but maybe that paradigm is coming to an end as men recognize the war on them>>43964393>they see you as a vending machine that outputs sex if you put enough kindness points inIf I looked like >>43964335 being a sex vending machine would be my dream. Sex is objectively the most enjoyable experience for both sexes, the difference being all women get to enjoy it at total saturation as their purpose in life but pretend it's oppression, men never get to enjoy it.
>>43964633>Sex is objectively the most enjoyable experience for both sexesonly if your partner knows how to please a woman... otherwise it is painful and unenjoyable.you would know this if you had ever had sex with a man.
I unironically dont care what gender someone else is. They can feel how they want but its not my business.
