>>43964029
i can provide examples for the disbelieving.

Depression:
oh woe is me! woe is me! how is this not npd? ticky ticky tricky tricky to treat, why can't it be beat? the wheat will be cut from the chaff. depression stinks of 'well, if only x, i could do y.' well maybe the reason why you're not successful, unemployed, poor, whatever, is just because you fucking suck. some people are just dumb. smart people don't get depressed. maybe you're just a dumb narcissist who can't deal with the fact that you just aren't cut out and need to LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS

anxiety:
oh no! everyone is thinking about how much i suck! again, this is because i believe myself to be better than i actually am.

This is from PERSONAL experience with both of these presentations of narcissism. I was 'depressed' for years because I THOUGHT I had done poorly in school and I THOUGHT I just needed to try harder and go to college and then I would be happy. Guess what? I'm just low iq. I'm just a fucking retard. So what did I do? I gave up on my powertrip fantasies where I make something of myself and just became toilet cleaner. Like I fucking deserve. Lowering myself to the STATION I BELONG IN greatly helped my life

>>43964045
what? so you just gave up? that doesn't sound like 'oh everyone else is a narcissisist' that just sounds like you're kind of a loser who gave up and stopped trying?

Thats also not how anxiety or depression work

>>43964222
I am a loser, which is why I have lowered myself to a loser station. Can you not read?

>>43964226
ok so this thread is just all about you and not really about trannies

/thread

>>43964222
depressed people think that they are incapable of doing things because they are depressed. anxious people because of anxiety. the likely reality is that they are both losers.

the problem comes with the ego not being in line with reality. they both believe they COULD be (not should be, like they should) better but are somehow incapable because of their bitch moms or whatever. being upset because you tried to go to college and failed is like a mentally retarded child being upset he isn't allowed to drive. ITS FOR GOOD REASON YOU DIDNT/CANT. STOP TRYING

>>43964045
youre so misunderstanding these, i know im not an example for everyone but at least in some depression is because i suck and i recognize that lowering my expectations does nothing + anxiety is because of past experience where these fears about everyone thinking i suck are confirmed true

>>43964235
I mean it is also about trannies. I tried to trans myself out for years because I thought it would fix all my issues. I hit rock bottom and moved back in with my 'bitch mother' and slowly have regained connection with The Truth. She revealed to me, like she tried to with the op image quiz she laid on me over 15 years ago, that I am a horrible narcissist who harms everyone around them, most especially her, and that I need to repent. I have spent the last while unlearning my tricks to deceive and harm

>>43964247
yet you still won't let go, hence the depression. YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER. maybe you're just not capable of anything? I wasn't even capable of ending my own life LMAO. you're sad because some part of you still thinks you have value. You don't, sorry, and neither do I. Not beyond what we can do for others more deserving than ourselves. For our betters. Your life should be to serve. and yet you refuse.

>>43964239
i mean i'm a uni graduate, with a job that pays 85,000 per year. I do have PTSD, Anxiety, and of course Gender Dysphoria.
Did having to tackle those 3 things during university make things harder? Yes. Did I give up when the going got tough? Fuck no. Did I succeed? Absolutely. Do I still vomit before a big presentation at work? I mean yes. Do I do it, because I practiced enough and know what I'm doing? Yes.
I failed a class once. Advanced Statistics. I studied it over the Christmas break, took a harder courseload the next semester, and succeeded. I got rejected from a few jobs. I learned from my mistakes, applied to others.

Thats how being human works. We fail sometimes. That just means we need to learn, and try harder to conquer it.

>>43964248
Does "repenting" constitute being a christcuck? Because if that made you detroon then I can't wait till you go even more insane and troon back, or kill yourself, like all jesusoid grifters do in the end

>>43964259
even if i let go and accept it (which i tried) how am i supposed to not be depressed as a "fucking loser whos not capable of anything"??? even if i cant do anything in this life this still means im very lonely and hated by everyone which makes me sad. and serve who

>>43964283
Let me guess, you asked for extra special depression treatment from your professors. Just like I did in highschool. Even when you don't think you are, you are. I shouldn't have been allowed to pass 8th grade and yet they just pass you along like daycare.

Or maybe you're a normal, worthy human with a little bit of sadness. You are like this because of subhumans like I normalizing this behavior. Had I or others like me not existed you would be even better off.
>>43964303
I admit, I don't truly believe, but I have to pretend to stay here and earn my place back. My mother wants a baby from me and is seeking out a man to do the deed. She almost went down my path, but an unexpected pregnancy cured her of her previously narcissistic ways. Unfortunately, we have a family curse from generations of demon worship (her words) that cause this to pass down. She was admittedly too soft on me which is why I formed like this.

>>43964349
i didn't ask for that no. I was considered gifted so in high school and such I got harder quizzes but.
Anon i think you think too much about yourself.
Ah fuck. Right. Narcissism. Of course you do.

>>43964327
Again, idiots who can't read. You serve your BETTERS. Serve people who are BETTER THAN YOU. Which probably includes everyone on this website honestly, considering the way you are seemingly completely and utterly illiterate. "Not capable of doing anything" means you are incapable without help and guidance from your betters. For example, I was a retarded child, so I was never taught to ride a bike, or allowed to play without direct supervision from my mother. This saved me from being molested and raped, or running away, which I tried to do several times anyway. Of course, this was all framed to me as 'abuse' by future therapists (leeches) who wanted to turn me into them. Had I been a normal child, acted better, my mother admits she would have let me have free reign. I got the childhood I deserved.

>>43964362
I'm just saying it because I was capable of manipulating my teachers into thinking I was being abused at home, that I was a special little kid who was 'gifted' like you (you likely actually are gifted, I'm sorry for earlier insults) and ended up getting cps involved because of it. I ruined the lives of myself and everyone around me from my manipulation.

>>43964390
and it is very common behavior among so called 'former gifted/burnout kids' who are ALL narcissists. Sorry, I accidentally sent the previous post too soon.

>>43964375
you cant call me a loser that cant achieve anything and complain when youre right and im an idiot that cant read! and im incapable of doing anything of use even with direct guidance, what now?

>>43964349
Ok, so you're smart enough not to believe in an ancient fairytale, but you still decide to base your beliefs and morals off of it indirectly through your indoctrinated mother. Make it make sense.

Also, people love calling neurotypicals narcissists, you should be aware of that. My parents are in the middle of a messy divorce, they're both calling each other as well as any family member on the other side a narcissist. It's extremely easy to make an assesment of someone else's completely normal behaviour and call it narcissistic just because they're looking out for themselves. I could call your mother a narcissist for forcing you to conform to her beliefs, even though she's most likely a normal person, just with religious brain rot.

wait im rereading your shit.
Isn't NPD like caused by trauma and neglect? It definitely sounds like your mother traumatized and neglected you.

>>43964431
i really don't know why you're bringing in the whole neurospicy/neurotypical speak here. multiple close family members have backed up her assertion, while therapists tried to diagnose my mother as a narcissist instead without even speaking to her (she refused group therapy as she knew it would be used to gather evidence against her in a cps case)
>>43964434
'trauma' and 'neglect' can be relative. to an abuser like I was, many things were 'trauma' 'neglect' or 'abuse'. the government likes to remove kids willy nilly, especially religious white folk. they encouraged her to get her tubes tied after ONE CHILD because she was a single mother, white, and christian.

>>43964527
>i really don't know why you're bringing in the whole neurospicy/neurotypical speak here

It's a discussion about narcissism, which is a mental disorder. People without mental disorders are called neurotypicals. I'm just using proper language, unless you believe that all mental disorders are fake and if we beat autistic kids they'll grow up fine, or something

>multiple close family members have backed up her assertion

This honestly doesn't mean anything because families are more often than not circlejerking opinion bubbles where being honest is forbidden, especially when they're all christcucks.
My mom's side of the family which includes a lot of people because she has two sisters who both have families of their own, as well as all of her close friends, all call my dad a lying narcissistic sack of shit, when in reality he's just a depressed old guy.

I agree that therapists can be very israeli at times but that doesn't prove anything.