I guess the reason I rep is that I don't believe trans is like being gay. being gay you can't change, but there's no evidence you can't change being trans
>>43971656absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence
>>43971656There's no evidence you can't change being gay because we're too pussy to do the necessary experiments on humans to find out.People "randomly" wake up and are suddenly straight or suddenly gay. Sexuality is fluid, though we treat it like it's fixed and immutable just because we don't understand it well enough. To get under the skin of any smug determinist leftist just ask them about how sometimes we change sexual orientatuon and see how they flounder and stutter. If they believe nothing is random and everything has a cause, then there's a cause for why people change their gender, so we could figure out the cause and suddenly sexual orientation isn't fixed. But they can't have that, so they would then try to say that sexual orientation has no cause and is innate. Yet how come people's orientations change, then? If it's random and there's "no" cause. Either they're honophobic or religious. It fucks with their minds. They can't handle it!
>>43971763Doesn't orientation just expand? Or like just realizing your inate attractiosn that were always there not change
>>43971682k but it is still abscence of evidence
>>43971656>there's no evidence you can't change being transthere's no evidence you cantake your HRT, retard
>>43972132Ok but it's better to not be trans so i should try to not
>>43972288yer already a tranny, anon
>>43971656you can change being gay.... Just exclusively date, express attraction toward, or have sex with women even if you don't really mean it
>>43971656And yet here you are, tranny
>>43974051I'm not a tranny
>>43975385Yes, you are.Deny all you want, nothing will change the fact that you're a tranny.
>>43971832Sometimes they expand. A currently straight man could remain attracted to women all his life and become bisexual. But, he could also "randomly" lose his attraction to women and go from being straight to being gold star gay. It just happens to people randomly sometimes. We just don't understand the mechinism as to how or why it occurs. We just know the conversion therapy stuff already tried doesn't work.Research into this topic could potentially help treat and understand pedophiles and necrophiliacs or sexual addictions or a huge number of problems related people having issues with their sexuality. But the costs of experimentation are too great, because we're not utilitarians, and for good reason. But there are enough people willing to volenteer, so it's more that we're too squeemish a society and just won't let people do dangerous stuff officially even when everybody consents.
>>43971656you can totally change being gaylook at those former gay pastors!>do they like women now?no, but theyre not gay anymore
>>43971832>Doesn't orientation just expand? Or like just realizing your inate attractiosn that were always there not changeTo further explain myself, many people report not being attracted to a sex and then later in life beibg attracted. Sexual fluidity isn't "oh I was just always gay because right now I'm gay" or "Oh, well this year I'm straight, so I was always just straight" it's acknowledging that sexual attraction does, in fact, change for you, rather than using the cope that you were somehow always that way.Look at this wikipedia article, it's hilarious and immediately gets off topic to cope and seethe about how "sexual orientation is not a choice" with half the article being about how conversion therapy doesn't work and stuff.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fluidity
>>43971656yeah there isJohn Money's deranged experiment proved you can't change someone's gender identity, it's innate. you can't make cis people trans, and you can't make trans people cis.
being “trans” is just being gay but refusing to fully accept ittrans women are gay men
>>43976426> trans women who date women are gay menkekw
>>43976437gay men can repress, date women, and still be gay men, yes
>>43976426I am straight though. Your narrative doesn't work for agps gincel
>>43971656Maybe it is social in nature. Early childhood, trauma, and culture sure seem to affect things. I can accept gender hs social. Can any cis person?Regardless of whether gender changes due to circumstances, all that matters is this: repressing hurts, and nearly every trans desistence study winds up with trans and nonbinary people only stopping because their family and friends wanted to change them or left them, they couldn't find work, they were too poor to get a prescription for HRT, and they felt physically unsafe around people.This tells me beneath a sizeable portion of girly guys and femboys is a trans woman scared of being hurt for coming out, but settling because anything is easier than having the president and his administration ship you off to a sanitarium.
>>43976354Oh god you reminded me of Christopher Yuan lol
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Like even if I am trans, I am just not comfortable transitioning or being a trans person.
>>43980220this used to be me. eventually you can't take it anymore lol and you just transition
>>43981150yeah but I did and was uncomfortable being a trans person so I detrooned. obviously I still have the thoughts though
>>43981444are you still on HRT?
>>43982045no
>>43982324why would you do that to yourselfyou can socially detransition while staying on HRT instead of dry repping
>>43982872because I plan on just being a man. on hrt you look faggy and I want to date women
>>43983220Couldn't be me. Long before I knew I was trans, I knew performing the guy's role in a relationship with a cis woman was not something I wanted in the slightest. If that's what you're looking for, though, I get it.
