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What is the difference between actual gender dysphoria to some sexual desire (like agp, or whatever you wanna call it) to be the opposite sex?
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Gender dysphoria in MTF is AGP.
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>>43977429
autoandrophobia
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>>43977438
>AGP is gender dysphoria

Some disagree. There's no consensus (I think)

>>43977440
If I were a femboy, I'd be happy
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>>43977460
Femboys are AGP.
The underlying mechanism for gender dysphoria, gender euphoria, femboyism, and so on is autoheterosexuality which is males is AGP.
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>>43977429
gender dysphoria is feeling shit about your current features or the lack thereof
agp is gooning to the idea of having those features

so ultimately not much difference, just kind of the other side of the same coin
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>>43977429
>the sexual desire to be the opposite sex
lol
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>>43977478
But AGP is sexual in nature, isn't it?

I mean, it would imply that if I didn't have sex drive I wouldn't want to be a woman, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong
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>>43977489
AGP is not always sexual.
The crossies who dress up to "relax" are just as AGP as the crossies who dress up to masturbate.
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>>43977502
Look into analloerotic agp. No it doesn't always have to be overtly sexual.
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>>43977429
You all understand the mechanism for being transgender with AGP. None of you can explain the reason the transition when your hsts
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>>43977502
It's a sexual orientation.
Heterosexuals do things other than sex that are nonetheless driven by their orientation. Autoheterosexuals do too.
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>>43977504
>Autogynephilia (AGP) is a psychological and sexological term coined in the late 1980s. It is defined as a male’s propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a female.
AGP is a sexual fetish by definition. As is often the case with fetishes, the intensity of arousal you feel from engaging in your fetish diminishes over time.
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>>43977516
HSTS transition because we're incorrigibly hypomasculine to the point that other gay men want nothing to do with us.
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>>43977522
>male's
>It's only bad when dirty amabs do it but perfectly normal and healthy when cis women do it.
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>>43977528
Yes exactly! Most people on this board don't understand.. think HSTS is just a status of beauty. They don't think it is an etiology, so it is a type of male homosexuality
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>>43977561
Incoherent nonsense
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>>43977568
There's basically no such thing as a transitioned HSTS who doesn't pass. (Passing is not the same thing as beautiful.) The entire motivation for the transition is that hypomasculine man get treated badly and women (whether cis or passing trans) get treated better. Non-pasaing trans women get treated badly, so transitioning into one would be pointless.
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>>43977578
Sorry I forgot most of my countrymen struggle to read at a fourth grade level. Please allow me to rephrase for you.

>grug discover normal female sexuality
>grug find "males" with female sexuality
>grug pathologize female sexuality and call it problem only when "males" do it
>grug big jew so write tablets on "males" with female sexuality
>grug notice "males" with female sexually trying to become females
>grug use grug's prior pathologisation of female sexuality to say trans grugs have weird fetish disease
>grug no realize that if femgrugs are women then female sexuality normal for femgrugs too
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>>43977429
I struggle with this as well. I have no GD but I don't have bad AGP when horny, but otherwise and not feminine at all and have no desire to be
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I have no dysphoria and only think these things when I'm jerking off. so transition would make no sense and probably backfire
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>>43977737
Trannies don't have "female sexuality" though.
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>>43977877
>Autogynephilia (AGP) is a psychological and sexological term coined in the late 1980s. It is defined as a male’s propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a female.
That is normal female sexuality.
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>>43977522
>>43977504
"relaxation from crossdressing is just arousal on a low level"
"gender euphoria is just gender dysphoria getting it's way"
-t. blanchard
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>>43977856
I feel the same way, but I've also been told by some that they felt the same but transitioned anyway and felt good so IDK
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>>43977429
...The fact you just described two entirely distinct concepts, maybe? Are you fucking retarded or something anon?
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>>43977429
its the same thing

>>43977489
>just kind of the other side of the same coin
yup
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>>43978396
Okay explain the difference then



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