I just saw this comment on a jax video and holy shit I'm pretty sure transmascs are just evil
Women *sips eefoc*
>>43982112this person is telling the truth thoughbeit. nobody is willing to acknowledge the trvth that jax is the first permarepper/permamanmoder representation and either wouldnt care much about his pronouns or prefers he/him>t. flag
>>43982179the post did not say "im calling jax he/him because thats how the character ended" the post is saying "trans women are not women and i want jax to die"
You're only valid if you're going yaaassss slaayyy queen and calling yourself a diva and a doll apparently
>>43982112kill all tmes>>43982179poor misguided girl i forgive u
>>43982112trans fem vs trans masc discourse is a psyop
>>43982112is this afabr serious............... :/
>>43982112>dont let it affect you :^)!
>>43982112>:3i was ready to let >>43982179 reasoning convince me but the :3 broke me. can we spray like a toxic gas that makes ftms look like monsters so they can get a single fucking morsel of our pain
>>43982112>I'm not transphobic>don't see him as super girly>nobody should judge>Don't care if it's canon>Happy pride>Happy pridealso, using :3 ironic
>>43982239if women are oppressed, then whysimon
>>43982239no the fuck it isnt lol weve been letting them walk all over us for years its about time we actually stand up for our sisters
>>43982112If a character effectively dies before coming out should you switch pronouns?
this commenter is like fifteen
>>43982206ok after reading the actual post in full (oops) oop is kind of stupid about it but they arent saying trans women are not women or that jax should die, the reasoning is that jax not liking girly things or not being overtly suggested to be trans makes it reasonable to say she/her. which is obv a low media literacy take but they were cooking the first 2 sentences
>>43982112This is like exactly verbatim of what my mom told me when she found my estrogen
>>43982112who the fuck is jax and why do i keep seeing threads about them
>>43982112after watching the show and seeing posts like that picrel, it is depressing how completely absent media literacy is these people need the author to look at the camera and explain directly what you are supposed to think>>43982179i think its more about the justification, rather than the simply the "i'll use he/him" part. its reasonable to use "he" for jax since she hasn't come out, and it would honestly be disrespectful to use different pronouns to force them into being more open than they wishbut when they go on a longwinded rant about jax "not being feminine enough" and such, that's where you lose me
>>43982382you should watch the amazing digital circus by esteemed oneyplays guest gooseworx
hello i am an idf soldier from israel and this is my favorite show
>>43982112>>43982179they're technically right about the pronouns thing not really being transphobic and whatever because gooseworx specifically said that jax's pronouns didn't really matter and it was meant to be ambiguousbut writing a youtube comment about how you're going to keep calling jax by masculine pronouns and explaining why you aren't transphobic for doing so is definitely transphobic
>>43982382"Adult" cartoon where a character is implied to be a MTF repper. Very online trannies are losing their shit.
>>43982112I do not think harley-lundenburg represents us very well. Sorry you have to read the retarded opinions of others.
>>43982112this could easily be a larping chud and i cant tell the difference
>>43982445How can they be technically right but still transphobic???
>>43982112Its utterly baffling how some people are unable to gasp the concept of lgbt people being closeted, especially coming from people who claim to be lgbt themselves. Its also kind of fucked up that this person acts like someone acting in a stereotypically "feminine" way is the only indication of someone being a woman, especially considering those theyfab types are the same ones insisting that someone can be "nonbinary" or "trans masc" despite being perfectly happy with female sex characteristics and being even more feminine than the average cis woman.>>43982239Calling mtfs "trans fem" and ftms "trans masc" is itself a psyop>>43982319Its reasonable to keep using male pronouns for someone who hasn't socially transitioned, and some people actually prefer it until they feel ready as I'm sure most boymoder or repressor types would attest to. Its a bit more ambiguous in the case of a fictional character but not really a big deal either way. The thing that's irritating is WHY this person insists that the character can't be mtf, it shows that these people have an utterly warped understanding of what being trans actually entails.
>>43982477because there's more meaning to what people say than the literal meaning of the words they use
>>43982310is getting walked all over exchanging mean tweets on xitter or is there an actual tangible way pooners are oppressing tranners
>>43982561theyfabs changed being trans from a medical thing to a social thing which has done more damage to this community than the nazi book burnings
>>43982605no it hasn't, transphobes don't give a shit about theyfabs besides making fun of them because they're ugly and wokethey'll actually go apeshit about youngshits and trans women in women's sports/prisons/changing rooms etc
>>43982669which, I may add, are all issues primarily pertaining to binary trans people
>>43982179I've been manmoding since I was 17 and I'm 34 now. It still hurts badly literally every single time someone calls me he, even though I've never gone by she and no one calls me she. You don't understand permamanmoders
>>43982206you have Borderline Personality Disorder
>>43982669cissoid normies and the conservative media didnt give a shit before theyfabs took over transgender discourse and mainstreamed it
>>43982703*hugs*
>>43982705are you retarded anon? theyfabism become prominent in the late 2000s/early 2010s and it flew under the radar as some quirky white girl shit. conservative media started giving a shit round 2015 after they needed a new scapegoat when gay marriage was legalized and started getting outraged over caitlyn jenner being woman of the year. then shortly after they started the trans panic over bathrooms. theyfabs abd they discourse weren't even part of the equation at first
>>43982112fpbp
>>43982703>presents as a man>gets referred to as such>"nooo everybody should magically know my heckin pronouns! this is le ebil transmascs fault too somehow!"the retards complaining about this cartoon drama arent even mtf, you're just mt with the hypothetical future goal of f. you have never experienced real transphobia. as evidenced by the fact that you think cartoon drama constitutes oppression
>>43982351so is OP and so are you and so is that umm catholic saint or we
>>43982784>are you retarded anon?points at flag
>>43982682So the only kind?
>>43982704i most certainly do not
>>43982525Well that's convenient for someone looking to be a permanent victim.
He's me and i'm he/him.
>>43982112>leave out pronoun shit so can get tranny rabbit movie distributed in middle east>"that means jax is a man"
>>43982784Not that anon but I'd say that the current understanding of trans issues enforced by theyfabs and other "radically inclusive" types really became the dominant narrative about trans issues around the same time that conservatives decided to fixate on trans people, before that those types typically called themselves "genderqueer" and at least had the decency to treat it as something different from transsexualism (and in some cases were outright transphobic). I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the shift towards the idea that being trans is about the "social construct of gender" was itself part of the attack on trans people by conservatives. If you're familiar with the history of left-wing movements in the US you might know about how the glowies destroyed the SDS from within not by taking over the org directly but by elevating the most deranged and proto-woke cranks that were already there, and many people suspect something similar happened with Occupy. Its an effective tactic, why wouldn't they do something similar as part of their attack on trans people?You also have to keep in mind that while most of the anti-trans hatred gets directed towards trans women, a lot of that hate is because we get blamed for shit pushed by the "nonbinary" crowd. Things like pronoun circles, offputting language like "birthing people" or "latinx", trying to erase mention of a person's sex in media like the "body type A/B" crap, etc. Yeah these things are all relatively inconsequential in any material sense, but they're REALLY fucking annoying to most people and directly impose on people in a way that a stealth mtf living as a normal woman doesn't, the only reason the theyfabs are able to do this shit is because they know trans women act as a lightning rod for any negative reaction.
>>43982112How do you even think this is an ftm?Seems like only mtfs even know wtf this show is
>>43983048if it weren't for your cluster b egocentrist worldview you would recognize that a large part of the current panic is also about "protecting children", and most of that panic is specifically about young ftms having access to medical transitionthe world doesn't revolve around your personal struggles
>>43983103are you retarded. wait actually name your top 3 most commonly used social media websites rn
>>43982283it's called testosteronefucking ftmtf incels realize they start physically resembling *us* and get terrified and disgusted and detransitioncredit to them it's very male behavior
>>43982518Non binarys look like women. Sound like women. Dress like women. But call themselves "men"They skinwalk being trans, which is exactly what Dr. Powers said is happening, and he was right. Such people are not serious and should be ignored
>>43983126Here reddit YouTube
>>43982669>they'll actually go apeshit about youngshits and trans women in women's sports/prisons/changing rooms etcThose are smoke screens. They hate trans people because of hate. If every single country banned every single trans person from every gendered space, would they be happy, no. Because these aren't legitimate concerns, and they cant openly say they want to gas us yet, so they hide behind arguments that make no sense
>>43983163I work with two theyfabs who are all the way fem presenting it's exhausting
>>43983172Kek.
>>43983107>a large part of the current panic is also about "protecting children", and most of that panic is specifically about young ftms having access to medical transitionExcept the theyfab stuff directly feeds into that too, when little suzie comes home from school one day saying they're trans because they got a haircut and put "they/them" in a social media profile, other people will treat that as if they were actually seeking out medical transition, and when that same theyfab eventually gets tired of the whole trans-as-a-subculture thing and goes back to calling themselves a cis woman despite not transitioning in any meaningful way in the first place, it will get treated as evidence of the narrative that trans people eventually just detransition and thus shouldn't be allowed to access medical treatment. Many of these former theyfabs will say as much directly, saying that they used to think they were trans but eventually grew out of it, which will then be interpreted by other people as if they were the same thing as actual ftms.
>>43982112Broke: Using he/him because you're TMEWoke: Using she/her because she's transBespoke: Using he/him because he's a boymoder who'd feel dysphoric if you used she/her before she's ready
>>43982112where at all in this comment does it say this user is transmasc
>>43983320op had like he/they/it in his profilealso its super obvious by how they view transness
>>43983348Could be a theymab, you don’t know shit
>>43983400the op isn't theymab because the op wants to fuck Jaxif somebody denies Jax transness it's 90% they're afab and wanted to fuck him and upset about her being trans, 10% terf and wanted to fuck him
>>43983448You don’t know shit
>>43982703yeesh and i thought being a 5 yr manmoder was bad
>>43983312baroque: using she/her because it's humiliating for her
>>43983655Masterstroke: alternating between he/she contextually for comedic potential