I wish there were a rehab facility for straight cis men who are suffering from estradiol addiction
yes that needs to be done
What if you got there and it turned out to be gay conversion therapy camp, as in, converting you into being flamboyantly gay without taking estrogen?
The reppers are out in full force today
>>43984540that would be just trading one affliction for another>>43984560I’m not a repper and if you ever met me you’d agree. I just suffer from drug addiction
>>43984594being gay is a blessing, not an affliction
>>43984594is the thought of not being on estrogen distressing to you?
>>43984604no not at all, I just have an addiction and can’t stop myself without help
>>43984540Oh God I'd love it so much, my dream come true
>>43984615so you want the effects of testosterone?
>>43984619I wish I could make your dreams come true. >>43984645Nigga it barely does anything. It's not like I'm itching for a fight 24/7. If you were truly fem all along you wouldn't be so aggro as to need castration in the first place.
>>43984645I don’t want the effects of anything I just want to feel like normal male that isn’t imprisoned by pharmaceuticals
>>43984666effeminate gay men *are* normal males
>>43984666So why are you addicted to estrogen then?
>>43983322estradiol "addiction" is crazyits a hormone sis
>>43983322unfortunately the only way to cure this is to bioengineer men so that we don't become hideously ugly by age 30
>>43984675lol no >>43984684I just took it once due to having unrelated mental issues and I haven’t been able to stop. It’s literally just smoking, it’s a weird habit that I know is bad for me but I keep doing anyway. it might be some kind of ocd ritual idk
>>43984675that's the problem thoughtestosterone turns normal males progressively more disgusting with every passing yearthere are no cute males over the age of 30
>>43984788Maybe you're just not attracted to guys over 30 for some reason of another? I've met plenty who still look in their early 20's and guys in their early 20's who look 40
>>43984788>more disgusting with every passing yearI think you are just a pedophile.
>>43984788wrong
>>43984809yeah i'm not attracted to old-looking guys at allbut it's deeper than that. the thought of ending up looking like one of those guys fills me with a horrible existential dread
>>4398481499% of the world is. It's the murder hobos you have to worry about
>>43984814>being attracted to cute twinks in their 20s makes you a pedophile!!>you HAVE to like hairy smelly bald old men with wrinkles and liver spots!
I am a cis man on HRT and I do believe there is a biomechanically addictive quality to high-dose estrogen medication.I am doing this for my looks. I do not give a shit about gender euphoria. I do not skirt go spinny. I do not blahaj. I approach this with a clinical, detached, medicalist perspective.HOWEVERObjectively speaking, from my observations, when I inject my estrogen, I get a rush of happiness. Doesn't matter how I am feeling subjectively, I just feel better soon after injection. In addition, the day before, I usually have headaches and feel bad. I cannot think of any other way to explain this other than a mild physiological addiction.That said, I have no intention of stopping, I like the effects, and the endorphin rush is just a bonus. I do find it fascinating though.
>>43984841I wish I could feel good on estrogen
>>43984841>I am doing this for my looks. I do not give a shit about gender euphoria. I do not skirt go spinny. I do not blahaj. I approach this with a clinical, detached, medicalist perspective. Isn't this more trutrans tho?
>>43984870what is your dose? I'm on estradiol valerate, 20 mg/ml, and my weekly dose is .5 ml, intramuscular>>43984891I mean, I suppose from an objective perspective I am "transexual". I have no testosterone in my body at this point. But I haven't changed my pronouns, name, or how I dress, nor do I intend to. It just doesn't matter to me so long as I see what I want to in the mirror, and being male comes with many benefits, so why switch if it doesn't bother me?
what do you need help with specifically? i probably should even try and treat any of you on here like human beings, but whatever, maybe I can relate, i doubt it
>>43984778>I just took it once due to having unrelated mental issues and I haven’t been able to stop. It’s literally just smoking, it’s a weird habit that I know is bad for me but I keep doing anyway. it might be some kind of ocd ritual idkI'm genuinely extremely afraid this is happening to me as well.How can I make sure that's not the case?
>>43984919I don’t think talking to me would help. I just need to be physically confined so I can’t continue this horrible habit and then I’ll be fine>>43984988I don’t think there’s too many like me, I’ve been extremely isolated my whole life which probably led to having a loose grasp on reality
>>43985068yeah I'm not sure i relate. i have no concept of even getting addicted to a drug. my problem with estrogen is that i dont really have any reason to take it, but feel forced to take it, its not addiction, its just a practicality.well good luck to you
>>43985077nta but I actually can absolutely relate. Taking estrogen just feels like something I must do. There's no reason why I should dislike being a man. I actually even think being a man can be pretty cool. It's just that my mind apparently refuses to accept a reality in which I remain one
>>43985131I was debating making a discord for people like this. I have far too little relatable experiences in the trans community so I stay away from it, even though It should probably be the place i most likely need to be around.For me. I tried getting off Estro multiple times in my very early 20s (21/22) and it never worked, so I just caved in and accepted it. I've gone through so many phases and none feel relatable. I can't even call myself a repper because its not that simple. I was willing to accept it, but it didnt feel right so...anyway its too much to get into
>>43984809I'm only attracted to the guys who look like girls
>>43983322there is, it's called a prison and it's where you go after inevitably committing a violent or sexual offense, nuking optics for real trans people
gn bump
>>43983322Kys loser U should be lobotomized
>>43983322How do you feel about your breasts?
>>43983322yeah i feel the same
>>43987536they’re not that noticeable, sometimes I feel reverse dysphoria but most of the time I don’t think about it
hm