REPPERSREMINDER THAT SECOND PUBERTY IS REALEVEN IN YOUR LATE 20S YOU AREN'T AT THE BOTTOMTAKE YOUR FUCKING ESTROGEN
>>43985168TAKE IT
>>43985168Already 32 (it is over)
>>43985173DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!>>43985177IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE TAKE YOUR FUCKING ESTROGEN
>>43985168Right is objectively more attractive.
>>43985168he looks way better on the right though
>>43985192>>43985202Look I'm not disputing that but if your goal is to be a woman and not attractive it is the opposite of good. For men, entering their silverback era is great. But for trans women or even theymabs I must re-iterate, second puberty is real and it will moid you beyond belief. Do you WANT to be gigamoided? Then look forward to it! But if not I have already spelled out what to do.
You will age whatever drugs you take
>>43985213Yes but you will not moid as you age. Your brow bone will not grow, your jaw will not widen, your ribcage will not expand, your wrinkles will not be so deep set, your skin will not be so rough, your body will not be so hairy. These are ALL avoidable.
Should I start it? I’m 24. I’m just scared that I’ll regret it but the thought of becoming even more masculine makes me want to die.
>>43985230Yes, I started at 29 and I turned out okay, luckily, but my only thought since has been I wish I did it earlier. But right after that is I am so glad I started when I did. Not doing it isn't staying neutral, its choosing to masculinize further. The changes don't stop after teenage puberty. You can always prevent further masculinization.
>>43985249Were you able to pass after that? I’m terrified I’ll just look like a loser faggot and never look like a woman. I think you’re probably right though I just keep coming here more and more frequently and the desire to start never goes away.
>>43985283I have entered a place I'd call comfortably androgynous. Sometimes I pass, not always, but in time (and with FFS) it might be possible to mostly pass. Even if you don't pass, you can just hrtrep, which while not ideal is so much better than not doing it at all. I don't mind looking a bit odd when the alternative is so much worse. Just stay well-groomed and at a healthy weight and people won't care about your skin being softer than normal. That said, I'd hesitate to present feminine in public until after electrolysis is done. Facial hair/shadow will be your biggest barrier so use laser, electrolysis, or some combination to get rid of that. And even if you can't, just being on hrt will help you even if you stay closeted.
>>43985327I don’t have facial hair really, I don’t shave and can’t tell. The idea of starting to grow facial hair in the OP kinda freaked me out really bad. Sorry for asking for spoon feeding but do you know is it like recommended to do pills at first rather than injections?
>>43985168dude the whiplash kid got HOT
>>43985354>I don’t have facial hair really, I don’t shave and can’t tell. Okay you have a very good starting point then>do you know is it like recommended to do pills at first rather than injections?IMO, injections are overall better, I do intramuscular. Some people will say that starting low doses and ramping up is better for simulating a "natural" puberty but I started at a high dosage and am quite pleased with results. The one thing about that which might be true is my breast growth might be smaller than it otherwise would have been, but I weighed that against potentially getting hondosed for months or years and decided I'd rather go hard from day 1. It might be scary to put the needle in but I promise it isn't bad.
>>43985168right is hotter tbhon. some men look better when they’re older and rougher, hopefully im one of them. not everyone gets to be a cute twink
>>43985391My face is masculine though, so my starting point isn’t great… I have like a big philtrum and brow bone. Ty though, I guess I’ll have to go figure out how to start it now.
>>43985419Go for it nona, i believe in you
>>43985173>>43985185these two actually became more feminine technically
>>43985168but im scared of social rejection and discrimination and turn 24 in a few days. rope in a few years is easier
>>43985974HRTrep if you must. Never tell a soul and use one of those gyno hiding undershirts for men. I promise it will be worth. Look for LGBT clinics near you that can help. They aren't going to laugh at you, their job is to help.
>>43985982Is HRTrepping even an option? what will I do when I have to out myself to a doctor eventually even if its completely unrelated? they will laugh at me, judge me, or scald me if I go a DIY route. Im too anxious to get help or go to a clinic irl so thats not an option and I dont even trust psychologists anyway. Gyno hiding undershirts are a great idea, though I did try HRT for a month once and I grew small moobs from just that so im not sure how long it would last.
>>43986024>Is HRTrepping even an option? what will I do when I have to out myself to a doctor eventually even if its completely unrelated?Do your research to find an LGBT clinic. I found one in my area and made it my primary care provider. They recommend me other doctors that they know won't be mean.>Im too anxious to get help or go to a clinic irl so thats not an option and I dont even trust psychologists anyway. I would work on overcoming this in general. DIY if you must and you can just explain any breast growth (which will likely be small) as gyno if you do have to go to a clinic. Here's the thing, even in this climate very few people will assume trans, they either won't notice or think it is something else. They do not care.
>>43985283Take a look at the top 100 rated men by appearance. If you don't look like them or came off the current trend assembly line, you're always going to be a loser faggot male. Embrace being unique and different.
>>43986049maybe you are right... but I dont know its so hard
>>43986090I promise you will be even more miserable if you don't
>>43985168bother looks hotter at 38 than he did at 28. he's aging well
>>43985168Doesn't matter, I'm already going to an hero long before that happens anyway, trooning out isn't going to help.
>>43985168truthnuke honestly.
>>43985230Yes bro, just take it. It's like asking you want a small garbage can fire to grow into a house fire.
>>43985168I think you mean have 300k+ for surgery and 200k+ for time off from work recovering
