>>43989343
If there were no ugly and poor people, who would help make all the elites feel better when they are struggling with superficial self worth identity disorders from the next up on the totem pole. They should be on their knees glucking my rapestick and praising the fact I exist to help make their fragile little egos hard.

>>43989416
It's unpaid fucking labor we get no recognition for.

this is why having a hon friend is great, its a constant reminder that no matter how fucked i am im still miles better off than her and living in reality

>>43989447
Now that's just cruelty.

humans are evil lowk

>>43989438
The only recognition I get is my buldge

I still get treated like an eldritch horror, get my gock analysed, and misgendered by nurses when I go and make appointments for SRS so it still fucking sucks ass

>>43989458
Yes and it's irrefutably fembrained af
Every friend group has the ugly girl

>>43989343
Nah, I'm normal and don't rely on the tragedies of others for my self worth. This fact makes me better than all of you freaks, which brings me immense satisfaction.

>>43989503
No, most nurses are self-centered and more evil than you'd like.
Just like how rulers shouldn't be people who seek power or money or fame, doctors and nurses wield their job as a rebuff from the critiques of their cruelties they do otherwise. Disgustingly, very few people actually wish to stick their neck out to help others and you can see that in every job, the medical industry is no different. Why would it be!?it's just a high paying job with plenty of practical and social benefits, what self-centered person wouldn't do such a thing had they will to go to school long enough despite failing classes over and over, bash your head long enough and you'll get your internship and an empty degree.
They're nurses, not people that want to help you or anyone, they're just at work,
(I'm just seething, sorry)

>>43989583
You can't even write two paragraphs without contradicting yourself.

i can't speak for all passing trans women but usually i just feel weird. i feel a strong sameness to other trans girls and its weird they don't feel it back. i feel a sense of impostor syndrome or survivors guilt or something, its hard to put it into words.

>>43989605
I don't disagree with you at all I just don't know how that is opposed to what I said lol

>>43989615
that's the joke, retard

>>43989343
fuck passoids, i hate them so much

>>43989681
:(
i like you

>>43989681
they hate themselves too
or so I've been told

>>43989660
wtf rude

>>43989625
I don't understand. Please be clearer.

>>43989697
Impossible. They live life on extra easy mode. No such thing as passoid suffering.

>>43989702
you're right, I'm sorry

>>43989343
In some ways, I wish I didn't pass, then I might not have transitioned

>>43989756
Elaborate.

>>43989766
There's nothing left to say. I wish I'd never transitioned

>>43989785
Then you'd instead anguish in dysphoria.

>>43989694
i don't care. if you're a passoid i hate you

>>43989721
i didn't become less trans and so i still feel the same way that other trans girls who do not pass as well feel. but they now see me as other or else do not even recognise we are the same at all. that is isolating and strange. i also recognise the ways it provides me some security (though not as much as is sometimes imagined), and so i feel a lot of feelings of guilt. when other tgirls talk about this like its rare and highly desirable, it leaves me confused - why did this happen to me? its a strange thing to get your head around and leads to people putting your experiences on a pedestal, and once you're there you can only really fall

i hate passoids so much too i want them all to die there needs to be no trans people it makes no sense some people can just pass can the tranny genocide start already

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My life as a passoid would be me becoming a conservative influencer telling people how trannies can NWBAW and you can always clock them.

>>43989801
idk, why so?
Why wouldn't I been happier being a gay man?

>>43989816
it is really strange, its a weird imposter feeling and often it feels like other people deserve it more. its isolating too

>>43989816
Tell me about this sense of security you thought was one thing and turned out another.

>>43989860
Not with dysphoria you wouldn't.

>>43989884
Isn't it a modern term for "gender identity disorder'?

>>43989899
Well yes. If you have that, you couldn't have ever been just a gay man.

>>43989922
This was something I had really bad when I was a child. I don't think I had it when I was older. When I was a teenager I loved gay sex. I don't know why I transitioned

>>43989868
yep :(
i think it gets less like this as time goes on at least
>>43989873
a lot of trans girls are kind of isolated and in particular might lack role models of other women who have got to this point in transition. without something real to base it on, you're left to fill in the blanks of what passing might be like. in baby tranny or otherwise socially isolated spaces (like this board) it leads to a romanticised ideal of passing. it is imagined as the thing that fixes your problems. the reality is more complex, it is in some ways easier to move through the world but i am as trans as i was before. my self image is still difficult, i still face the same legal or medical or social hurdles as many trans women, and its not like i am at the same point in life as cis girl my age - i spent the time they spent building a normal life changing my sex. it means i have all the same issues finding employment for example, because im sort of behind the curve. only nobody understands why - cis people don't understand me as trans, and other trans people imagine my life to be easier than it is. additionally i now have new challenges like the fact i am functionally back in the closet which makes forming relationships of any kind much harder and sometimes quite dangerous.

>>43990021
passing solves all your problems and im tired of pretending that it doesnt

>>43990050
i think this is a good example of what i mean when i say it can be othering to pass. do you pass nona?

>>43990060
no and im never going to, passoids like you think they have it hard but its all made up problems everyone else is going through as well if you pass your life is perfect if you dont its not comparable i hate passoids so much its as if the moment you start to pass you have no heart

>>43990095
i lived as visibly trans probably longer than you have been transitioning so i understand how hard it is. it is a shame you can't empathise with me in the way i can empathise with you

>>43990107
you cant empathise with me at all you think you do and pretend to understand but you dont you only want to feel okay with yourself im never going to be trans our 2 experiences are so different i hate passoids so much oh my god they all need to die

>>43990119
girl i am saying i was you, i know what its like because i lived as plenty of other forms of transition before i got here. if you have never experienced passing how do you think you know what its like?

anyway you're not rly engaging with me you're just objectifying me, turning me into an object of your own insecurities and frustration. its not a nice thing to do and is a good example of what i was saying above

>>43990050
Passing can be a big trap. It offers some way out of a fearful life that you'll get beat up for being gay because people think you're a woman. It works in the short run but what if you like your sexuality and you lose it from having SRS? Then you're really feel like you made a mistake

>>43990140
This question is dumb but srs regret is bc you lost ur balls or dick?

>>43990136
you were not me you were never me passoids talking about but now you pass so you were never ever me because during all this time you were able to pass one day and be visibly trans im not objectifying you or anything intentionally i just hate passoids lioke you so much you have everythinggg i dont know whats it like and i dont need to
>>43990140
this is so so dumb another shallow passoids problems oh no my life is so good and i can have srs passoids are all evjil confirmatin 1000

>>43990217
girl you are objectifying me. you have turned me into an object, a sort of punching bag, and are being nasty to me because you feel bad about yourself. i have not been nasty to you. its really unpleasant.

>>43990191
Yes, it's a gross way to put it but yeah I don't have sexual organs anymore. But I have is a cosmetic imitation which functions as a vagina but offers me no pleasure or no orgasm

>>43990246
youre unpleasant to me by being a passoid thats bad enough, also yes im mad about passoids because i feel bad wow how could those 2 be connected no passoid can grasp this a neverpasser would be mad andsad about passoids?? i wonder whyyyy its surely just fixab le and they need to work on it you have all the luck ill just try to be born with better luck next time so you wont tell me im ""objectifiying" you omg also *cis man on hrt not a girl

>>43990267
Was it botched? What happened? Did the doctor ever look at it?

>>43990329
No it's just not something I wish I had done to myself. I would much rather have been a gay boy, just a man
The man part was difficult for me cuz I don't really feel like a man, it's confusing

>>43990313
you are made at me based not on the quality of my character but rather, the fact you project your own issues onto my body. that is what i mean when i say you are objectifying me. there is no reason to be mad at me because i have not hurt you. you are just unable to deal with your feelings maturely and instead lash out at people. i imagine this is not unrelated to why you do not pass. i tried being nice but you are really nasty to me. you act like men who have hurt me and its no surprise to me that you lack the spine to transition. you are right, we are not the same, i am nicer than you and have more courage. weak willed fail tranny, lost before you even started. could never be me. deeply unpleasant person.

>>43990403
Nonpassers treat passoids like incels treat attractive women.

>>43990403
every passoid personally hurt me. the thing you still dont understand is the whole reason i became like this is because im unable to pass the reason im so unpleasant is because i cant ever pass and i cant stand everyone getting to live normal life except me for no reason but being unlucky say i act like a man youre probabnly right kms youre right saying it was lost before i even started i hope youre happy being a passoid and happier when i killkymself i cant stand passoids

>>43990414
threads like this are sanity restoring because i hope other tgirls read this and learn how to treat others better, even if they are at different points in transition. ultimately we are all the same and having such an obvious example of someone being disgusting might help us be nicer to each other i think

>>43990428
you completely fail at managing your own emotions and instead try to hurt other people. that is moid brained! please log off and get therapy you dumb bitch its gross

>>43990428
How come you made all these transgender people? I transitioned and swear I've never seen a transgender person since I had SRS. At least not that I know of

>>43990452
sorry for being moidbrained its probably because i am one permanently for the rest of my life also therapy is the most unhelpful thing ever

>>43990442
The most passing tranny is still extremely less privileged than like the average cissoid but for some reason trannies would rather crab bucket it's fucked

>>43990463
I don't really see how, unless you also mean those who did not transition are more fortunate, which I will agree with

>>43990463
people like this girl itt don't see it and imagine me as essentially cis and them as like, more trans or more hurt by their transness. which is hilarious in this case as this girl is telling me she lives as a man lmaoooo like im sure you feel dysphoric but cry me a river jesus. i have experienced much worse than living as a man and feeling sad about it!

>>43990483
im not more trans i clearly said im less trans ill cry a river dont worry i hope youre happy passoid and im soooo sure you experienced something worse than living as a man considering you had the ability not to!! not the same situation

>>43990496
i felt shitty but life was objectively easier for me when people didn't know i was trans wtf are you talking about. stop speaking to me you weirdo. you give me the vibes of someone i'd be scared to sit next to on the bus

>>43990507
ive been told that a lot and worse its okay ill never speak to anyone ever and be happy because i should ahve just been borbn better why didnt i try that

>>43990517
i don't care about you, nasty bitch. you tried to hurt me so why would your attempts to emotionally manipulate me into pitying you work? you're a worm and you deserve to feel bad. stop bothering women online.

>>43990478
?
>>43990483
Manmoders aren't trans women imho

>>43990529
i never tried to hurt you sorry, ill try to stop but what do you mean a worm im esl

>>43990530
idk if i'd go that far as i'm very willing to extend sisterhood to people who deserve it. the combination of manmoding and bitterness towards others seems very manish to me though. like shes right, our lives are not the same. there is no version of me that could act this way. i don't get it and it makes me feel that maybe she's right and some of us are real ones, some of us are idk what. mentally ill incels or something.

>>43990545
you absolutely tried to hurt me you rancid bitch. keep suffering. nasty weirdo.

>>43990530
Why would you have trouble understanding simple language

>>43990561
sorry im sorry i wish i wasnt a nasty weirdo i hate my life i wish i was an actualkl human sorry i didnt mean it sorry

>>43990601
i don't accept your appology because i have zero reason to feel sorry for you or like you. when you try to hurt people they feel some way about it. you can't just retreat behind your own pathetic nature to make it go away. you tried to upset me because you have an aggressive, male way of handling your own feelings. i would have shown you the same respect i show any other girl but you are a stranger to me and the only thing i know about you is that you are horrible to people you don't know, for no reason other than your own insecurities.

apology not accepted, i think you're disgusting and i hope you stay upset all day.

>>43990630
thats okay youre probably right in everything, i just never tried to intentionally hurt you okay i wish i didnt act like a male but i dont even know how to stop it im horrible toeveryone at this point i wish it wasnt like this sorry ill stay upset and disgusting forever

>>43990562
I have not talked about repressors at all i dont get how what ur saying is related to my msg
>>43990551
Idk I've been transitioning for a while ig similar stuff to you (getting on 10y soon) and there are definitely trans women and "trans" "women" like I don't think it's fucked to say that some person that lives as a man behaves like a man and has male rapey fetishes is not the same
I get trauma because I'm inflicting myself horrible medical shit to get srs because I'm so dysphoric but dudes will jerk it off to the exact traumas I have like naaaah

>>43990658
I'm talking about those who transition fully, but regret it and wish that they hadn't and are now miserable with their life

>>43990654
i'm leaving this thread now and we will never speak to one another again. with that in mind, if you want my forgiveness you need to change. i will only forgive you at the point where you have learned to better manage your feelings so you no longer lash out at others. i think to do that, you will need help (such as therapy) and probably to pursue transition more meaningfully (however hard that might be). i imagine the country you are in would make that really difficult, but i suspect its what you need in order to stop being so unpleasant to people.

you can judge for yourself when you've done enough to deserve that forgiveness and until then i hope you feel perpetually miserable.

>>43990658
this is probs scizo but i have a small suspicion we might know each other just because theres not many people who've been transitioning as long as we have on this board anymore. do you have blond hair and killer tats? whatever the case i agree with you yes.

>>43990658
im "trans" "women" but it never even started, when you dont pass you get no chance at female socialization or for anyone to treat you like a woman ever so i live as a man behave like a man but involuntarily..
>>43990687
im never going to change i tried and tried ive always been like this just getting wrose its impossible to learn to better manage my feelings i tried therapy it did nothingg and i cant pursue transition more meaningfully i cant stress enough how disgustingly male i look i dont deserver forgiveness ill just kill myself soon because im already hated by everyojne and just a hassle

>>43990658
>fucked to say that some person that lives as a man behaves like a man and has male rapey fetishes is not the same
I get trauma because I'm inflicting myself horrible medical shit to get srs because I'm so dysphoric but dudes will jerk it off to the exact traumas I have like naaaah

What are you trying to say here? Can you say it in simple adult language

>>43990687
i wish you didnt leave if you still somehow still see this i really wish i knew how to change im geiununely sorryi cant stop crying

>>43990721
>>43990736
omfg is this larry lmaooo

>>43990751
im not larry what also why are you laughing

>>43990726
HSTS don't have dysphoria lol

>>43990758
because i've seen you post your balls to threads here like you crash out like this all the time and you're gross

>>43990763
I don't know if I do or not?

>>43990770
im actually not larry if youre still the personi talked to sorry but like im not larry what

>>43990790
okay dw then. there was an old poster here, a repper hrt manmoder like you, who behaved exactly the same as you are and types similarly. they used to regularly flash their dick to people or make rape threats when they felt bad, particularly towards women who passed. you act a lot like them.

it is me yes and i hope you remember how upset this made you the next time you feel like lashing out at a stranger you nasty bitch

>>43990811
okay first of all regardless of what you think of me i would never do that thats disgusting even for me
i would love to keep talking to you im sorry also everyone is a stranger to me i dont talk to anyone but i shouldnt have lashed out

>>43990676
Well they're still less lucky than a cissoid right lol
>>43990707
Nah black hair and no tats sorry, but it is possible either way
>>43990721
You can still bootstrap ur way outta male socialisation just girlmode even if it hurts and you don't pass
>>43990726
Moids don't have dysphoria and jerk off to the idea of people seeing them in fem clothes with their "girl"dick

>>43990827
take a moment to reflect on this. why would i want to talk to you? you have demonstrated to me how emotionally unstable you are and that you would try to hurt me if you got upset. girl i don't want to talk to you i want to avoid you. that is a normal reaction to the way you behave.

>>43990845
i look so much like a male girlmoding for me would look like crossdressing in public
>>43990851
youre right desu i dont know why i just wish i knew how to stop being like this and how to actually get out of this sorry

>>43990845
If the cisoid is male, then yes if it's a female then no

>>43990872
i know why lol its really transparent. you are dysphoric and immature and so instead of working on yourself you lash out. its easier to try to hurt others than it is to better your own situation. you said earlier we are different and i agree, because when i felt bad like you do i did everything i could to improve my lot in life. i am sure you feel bad but i lost everything to transition and have experienced violence you couldn't imagine. but i did it! and so i am braver than you, who rather than face hardship would rather try to make people like me feel bad out of jealousy. its pathetic.

to stop being like this its very simple, you have to stop acting this way and try something new

>>43990845
hmm i'm sure we do know one another but not sure who you might be!

>>43989343
T everyone in this thread is an absolute asshole

>>43990921
im sorry you went through this and i hope youre safe now. i tried to get out and change anything and was only met with more failure everywhere i went i wish i was like you and capable of getting out i tried something new nothing works

>>43990957
what are the barriers you are facing to transition? i don't mean your insecurities i mean like, what is it about your life that makes it so hard to imagine things changing? istg if this is just that you feel ugly i'm going to be really mean to you

>>43990927
Transitionning, embracing being an agp, maximizing your looks and living for the happiness and thrive of the way your peers see you is an inherently prideful way to live.

I find it ironic that the month celebrating queerness is named "pride month", because pride is definitely the biggest sin behind being a tranny, way ahead of lust, actually.

>>43990973
i have no real life been a neet for to long now i dont know how to do anything im on hrt i guess i ran out today too but i just cant see myself ever girlmoding or getting anywhere i cant function socially i cant do anything with my life and yes im sorry but i look really really ugly. ive been told so many times i look so masculine as a comment or just ugly

>>43990998
okay so i was willing to extend sympathy if you were to tell me you lived somewhere you'd be stoned to death or something. but you're just kind of a loser right now and are too stuck in your head to better yourself. for a start get yourself some HRT but you need to start making changes to your life or, predictably, nothing will change. today is the shortest amount of time you'll have been a NEET for. tomorrow, it will be one day longer. next year, a year longer. 'too long' will only get longer. i was a neet for a really long time and going to uni was my ticket out. as for feeling ugly - yeah you and everyone else. you think i didn't feel masculine? you think people didn't tell me that? you think i didn't get called slurs and told i'd never pass and that i should kms? when i told my mom i was trans at 15 the first thing she did was tell me how ugly a woman i would be. and yet here i am, all this time later proving her wrong. all you can do is move forward. get over yourself

>>43991047
i wish i was brave and capable like you, i just cant think of myself escaping this situation ive always been a loser i never made friends i have 0 social connections at all and i cant get to uni, i dont think girlmoding is an option for me i would become homeless instantly
i dont know how to im so sorry i lashed out earlier youre right i redirect my anger on people who dont deserve it

>>43991076
its okay i appreciate you taking a moment to empathise with me and calm down. girl i know how awful it is and i feel for you. how old are you can i ask?
appology accepted

>>43991161
18... i guess youre right in the immature part i feel it too
thank you, i really shoudltn have acted like it at all

>>43991173
its okay diva i was an asshole at your age. i take back what i said about you being moidish, i think you were immature and unpleasant but thats normal for someone so young sometimes. when i was your age i had just started repping again (my first time trying failed) and i got into drugs and became an absolute loser for like 6 years. don't be like me! you have more agency than you can see right now and things can change quickly once you find ways to start the ball rolling. if you are already on HRT you're doing better than i did at your age so don't give up yet, by the time you are my age now things will be so different and theres every chance you'll mog me lol

>>43991208
i wont mog you but thanks, i try to get out of this but its so hard i barely feel human compared to everyone around me. also i am moidish im aware of it but ill try to get out of this.. thank you ily thank you im so sorry for before youre really kind

>>43991237
water under the bridge but remember this the next time you feel like lashing out at someone.

i can't really say what your route out of your current situation is because i do not know your life but i do believe there is a route. at your age, things change so much year to year. i expect that without realising you will find things look very different all of a sudden, but you need to be trying to look for opportunities when they present themselves. change only happens when you want it to, and when you try to get it. good luck

>>43989447
ur the same as her, how do u like that? ur both trannies does that make u feel good?

>>43991286
thank you but i still feel so isolated i never managed to make friends irl at all and by now it seems to late but ill still try.. i wish i could keep talking to you but thank you ill try, goodluck to you aswell i hope youre situation is okay goodnight

>>43990980
What if you're not agp.
What if you see yourself as a gay boy who didn't have much success with a gay men. if you transition because you wanted to be more attractive and have a lover and you realize you gave away your sexuality and they still don't like you!What about in this case?

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>>43989343
no you got it all wrong. there are three types of hons and they elicit 3 different responses in me:
>rapehons, basically men who dont even try to look like women and dont do voice training, often say things like "passing is toxic"
i feel awkward and disgusted. dont want to associate with them or be in their presence. i also genuinely dont believe theyre actually trans. real troons either rep or troon out properly. i openly mock people like this with my cis friends and they agree that theres no way that these people have the sane condition in their brain as me
>hons that clearly try to pass but cant due to being ugly and bonefucked
i feel genuinely really bad for these and always try to be really kind to them and smile to them. i avoid them because being around them makes me feel like shit because of empathy, kind of like i avoid disabled people but am courteous around them
>twinkhons, beautiful ethereal twinkhons
sex sex sex plap plap plap there is nothing as lovely as a twinkhon i want to give my life to one of yall PLEASE marry me, no actually i want TWO
t: passed pre-hrt

gob damn i wish i was a passoid

>>43989627
>(I'm just seething, sorry)
i genuienly(exageration) saw red

>>43989721
Kys u pathetic dog

>>43989804
What about cis women? Lol why dont u say what u mean, ie people who are not butt ass ugly monsters like u

>>43990050
Do u want some heroin? >>43990095
Is it because hot people wont fuck u?