>>43989879
YWNBATW
All trans women are women, but not all women are trans women

why? do you just want a penis? being a transbian sucks.

>>43989896
NO, squares CANNOT be rectangles, ywnbar

>>43989879
agamp kikomimoder (said with peace and love)

God i wish i had a cis woman with a dick to torture me with her dick

>>43989879
find a random tranny polycule that is relatively small and integrate

wait me too. let's be kikomis together

>>43989879
So you ant to be lesbian + penis?

>>43989879
objectively nothing wrong with it but we need the niche nona

>>43989879
>>43989914
Literally this, nothing wrong with it OP

>>43989896
Agony

>>43989908
I wanna be a tall with a twinky frame
I want to secretly order hormones and take them
I wanna be at work worried about people seeing my hrt boobies growing in
I want to make my first trip to the store to buy girlmoding clothes and have my heart pounding as I pick out my first dress
I want to experience coming out and knowing who rejects me and who supports me and knowing who my real friends are
I wanna know what prostate stuff is like and wear a chastity cage and be lewd with another transbian discovering our new feelings and new bodies together
I want to love being a girl

>>43989879
I wish you would always leave trannies alone. All you do is make us envious. Best not to think about you

>>43989952
ok take your t ayden

Why be a freak? People hate us

>>43989936
>objectively nothing wrong with it but we need the niche nona
I have been saying this for years, it's all I have and if cis women get it too it's over for me and I'm roping

>>43989879
ur a fujoshi and you just find fem4fem gay men relationships hot

>>43989952
To be fair you can do like 90% of this as you are now

>>43990002
It’s a shame most fujoshis dont like that relationship or ever write one like it, they always make it fem4masc where they clearly self insert as the femme or just masc4masc which is just a fetish.

>>43989952
Girls can really romanticize anything.

>>43989912
You will never be a real rectangle. Your sides all match, your length is longer than your width, the length of your diagonal is always a product of √2 and the length of one side. You are a homogeneous shape cropped by tools and drafting into a crude mockery of nature’s imperfection.

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>>43989879
>I wish I was born with a severe birth limb defect to satisfy my amputee fetish and I am not memeing
this is what you sound like

>>43989914
>>43989950
coping

>>43990154
I mean, I romanticize it myself to try to get through the pain.

>>43989952
Being trans is part of who I am, and I don't regret anything about transitioning, and there are even parts of it that I do like that I would miss if I were cis, but jesus fucking christ you don't want this. I would literally sell my soul if it meant I got to redo my life as a cis woman. Raised as a girl, treated unquestionably like a girl all my life, never having to question how I'm read no matter how much progress I've put into passing, it's literally hell, it's a curse. It's not worth the pain. I'm not religious, but I've spent nights crying and praying to god for a do-over, or at the very least for there to be an afterlife where I'm truly a woman. I love who I've become despite all of this, but there will never be a day where I won't beg my heart out to have been born differently.

>>43990332
Yes I changed my mind and retract my original statement, OP made it weird.

I don't get how anyone can go through the trans experience and not feel immense empathy for people like OP

>>43989879
I don't believe you!
I think you're just a little shit trying to make trouble

>>43990627
The trans experience is taking HRT, passing after a year or less, getting SRS, being a woman for years, then coming back to check on other trannies and realizing they're freaks.

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>>43989879
microdose T and be a bio transwoman

>>43989879
You ever consider like adopting an early transitioner and treating her as a little pet you play dress up with and all to live vicariously through her

go on T for 5 years
body build
get phallo done
be stealth passoid
come out as tgirl
get on E
done

I'm not taking T and I'm not ftm, stop it

>>43990795
What are you, GAMP?

OP what are your opinions on common trans fetishes like puppygirls and diapers?

>>43990667
Lmao I wish I'm still waiting for surgery and most don't even pass under a year

honestly op this is v cute. i can adopt you and teach u how to integrate into transbian polycules. we would love to get our hands on you. i would even do the whole thing and pretend ur tits are growing in if u want me to ^.^

do you top?

>>43989952
Taking at face value, I don't think it's wrong to yearn for these idealized visions of what being trans is like, but I feel that you are being fetishistic about us. Do you also want to suffer the feelings of dysphoria, social isolation and political oppression? If you relate to us then that's understandable, we share many experiences as women and there isn't as much as a gap between the struggles both trans and cis women face than people realize, but I feel that your understanding of problems trans women comes down to awkwardness and a rosy understanding of coming out to those around us, rather than the reality of the dangers many trans women face with being shunned, harassed, kicked out and rejected by their families and those around them. Loving being a girl is something cis women can figure out as well, you don't need to be trans for that.

>>43989879
cisfem chasers scare me

>>43989879
Based

>>43989952
Try boymoding and wearing a strap idk

>>43989952
Holy pickme girl, you are so fembrained it's insane. Girl do you not have any friends? I genuinely feel bad that you're so lonely that you feel the need to idealize the transfem experience. Please go talk to people IRL, I'm scared for you.

>>43990332
Lots of cis women view womanhood as basically a disability or a defect that brings oppression, and think exactly the same thing about trans women

>>43991808
How do you boymode in the way trans women do without being born a boy, is the thing
The thing is that it's an unwilling but often necessary step to transitioning to living as a woman full time
If you were already born at the end it doesn't even make sense

>>43989879
>>43989952
finally, transbian fujoshi

>>43989879
kill yourself

>>43992088
But a trans women are far worse because they're like a piece of shit sex for sale horny creature for people to fuck. subhuman for men to think about dirty sexual thoughts. All their lives, they are things, not people anymore

>>43989879
i think this phenomenon is more common than anyone truly knows

>>43992217
No it's not!
It's only common for mentally ill persons who want to become sex objects of the dirtiest kind

How do afabs feel so comfortable engaging in gender stuff when it just makes me want to kill myself

>>43992262
Because larp

>>43989879
its really wonderful if you find a beautiful angel that loves you dearly for exactly who you are

i dont think many find that kind of love

but i did

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>>43989879
this unironically might be more tragic than somebody who is a passoid, i'm sorry you wont get to experience this different life, the privileged always did desire the fantasy of overcoming an adversity they will never know themselves.

on a similar note, what is your opinion on trans women as romantic and sexual partners and as people in general

>>43992261
in my experience it is. although i know thats not really indicative of anything, but the idea of "penis envy" has existed forever. ive met a weirdly large number of ciswomen who have expressed the desire to swap their vagina for a dick without masculinizing at all.

>>43989879
>I'm a foid but
>more TADC slop
can you like not come here, please you have the entire rest of the internet let me have peace im begging really nicely.
it would be um super transphobic and yt supremacist to gentrify transfeminyn folx spaces [clap emoji].

>>43989879
there's something wrong with me because I think that's hot even if I feel bad for your plight

>>43989914
based

>>43992646
Holy cope, just close the computer tab nona. At least you can take solace in how fembrained this post was.

>>43989879
Same, OP. Specifically, I want to be and look like a woman but have a penis. I could take or leave the boobs.

Is it possible to have sex dysphoria but not gender dysphoria? Because I feel like that's what we're experiencing

>>43992634
>swap their vagina for a dick without masculinizing at all.

Well sure they're avoiding having the ugly part of being male. They don't want to be ugly like a male they want to have the penis but they don't want to be ugly

>>43991338
Ew

>>43992656
you know i wasnt going to say it but theres is something hot about it but i don't know what, any help?

>>43992692
why not? lots of trannies have gender dysphoria and take hrt but never get srs

>>43992692
what is your sexual orientation and is it a factor in this desire

>>43989879
I mean people romanticize being vampires but imagine if you were actually a vampire who just wanted to live a happy life in society, being mostly a human but just different enough that you need to drink blood you feel guilty about and can't go outside without covering. Actually someone should make a story about a dysphoric vampire that would be cool.

>>43992675
>non biney flag
can you please go back too

>>43992715
What kind of weird flag do you have, it's ugly as shit

>>43992692
>Is it possible to have sex dysphoria but not gender dysphoria?
as someone with no intent to socially transition but severe dysphoria over physical sex traits (alleviated significantly with HRT and hopefully further with niche SRS): yes, absolutely, and going even more unsubstantiated tinfoil hat schizo I think there is a deep wound in humans going all the way back around our being sexual dimorphic and feeling "incomplete" such that the ideal form is actually a blend of physical traits like the alchemical rebis or classical hermaphrodite

more realistically I think it's helpful to differentiate between sex and gender dysphoria, even if they're very closely linked and most "normal" mtf or ftm trannies will feel both (given that gender is a socially contextual role that emerges from practices around sex), and I think in a way it makes me kind of functionally non-binary even if I default generally to a binary social role

>>43992718
I'm bi. I guess I do have AAP to some extent. When I wear a packer it turns me on, especially if I go out in public with it. But it also just feels more "correct" to look down and see a dick vs a vagina.

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>>43990670
ohhh that's who she was

>>43992757 you are not trans if you want a dick

>>43992730
I'm moid, too bad. You're here forever, just like the rest of us.

>>43992729
>avoids mirrors
>pale as milk
>avoids the daytime like the plague
>bites
>considered a social contagion and hated by religious groups
>takes a controversial substance in order to live
>have a mystique around them that feels otherworldly
Was i describing a vampire or trans woman, who's to say?

>>43992737
ugly like my heart and body, very fitting i'd say.

>>43992798
>I'm moid, too bad
I mean yeah i picked up on that, can you be a moid back where you belong tho :)

>>43989879
wanting to be a trans woman is the natural evolution of having sex dysphoria for your hole but not wanting to be the rape gender
it's pretty normal, but how much of a dick you are to trans women about it and how well you take the time to see their viewpoint on bottom dysphoria determines if it's an okay position for you to hold or if it makes you an asshole

you have to understand that they dont want to look like them and not speak over them when they talk about their dysphoria or you're the problem

>>43992757
interesting. I think I might have the opposite of what you have? Or maybe a mix I don't know. I would be upset at being seen or treated as a male but don't care so much about my junk. I pass so it only comes up in the context of dating. It does at least make me feel less weird knowing there are cis women who feel this way (unless they're poonreppers in which case fmstl)

>>43992812
Trvke, we are literally temu vampires...

>>43992753
nta but it has always interested me in a similar way how people have eternally romanticized the hermaphroditic form like that. i always think of this when i see people criticizing femboymoder ftms or the wide spectrum of mtfs who prefer to keep their dicks. for some reason this form just appeals to people.

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>>43989936
how is it objective. OP is fetishizing the experienced of a disordered uberminority

bitches just be saying shit, objectivity has nothing to do with it.

>>43992217
least obvious repchasoid

>>43992819
There isnt any other place. Genuinely, point me there if you know where enbys congregate like flies in the same way tttt does for trans girls.

>>43992675
stfu retard

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>>43992915
Lmao

>>43992784
I mean, yeah, I don't identify as trans. I just say I have penis envy if it ever comes up
>>43992835
That is interesting. I guess gender and sex dysphoria are likely on separate spectrums of sorts

>>43992938
>I just say I have penis envy
total Freud victory yet again

>>43992913
I have just the place for you xir: www.reddit.com
ur valid btw

>>43992932
malgendering is based chud behaviour and I will not pretend it's unambiguously bad

>>43992952
What subreddit that isn't dead as shit or just full of hugbox memes or femboy porn? Point the way.

>>43992932
not wanting people who will decrease the quality of the board on the board is very common and very old, >>43992646 is in the right, particularly because OP is the 99.6% and nona is the 0.4% so sybau already jfc enbies r so annoying

also by your logic YOU should just stop coping and close the computer tab. stop with this forced twitter bullshit

>>43992909
>least obvious repchasoid
i said that because my cis gf has told me about 99999 times that she wishes she could have a dick. she has zero desire to take hormones because it wont give her a dick and it would just make her a balding manlet with no upsides, which i tend to agree with.

>>43992951
most of Freud's theories are a reflection of him mostly treating closeted and repressed auteurs and then failing to recognize that what he had seen doesn't apply to the general public

this would be fine if he was the sole pioneer of psychology but his colleagues tried to call him out on his biases and warn him constantly and he ignored them

>>43992984
I am aware but it was funny
t. psych undergrad

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In all srsness while this is a larp for sure it is an interesting question what such a cis woman should do

Would it be wrong for them to steal our aesthetics? Would it be hypocritical for us to complain? Would anyone be accepting enough to play along with the fantasy that theyre amab that has transitioned and their lil strap is a real gick?

>>43992963
way to tell on yourself nigga lol smhh

>>43992975
>>43993003
Yeah now you get it. If I had a place to never come back here for, I'd stay gone. I'm stuck in the middle between being a theyfab like op and an boymoder repper like the rest of you. Genuinely send me to a place that never makes me want to come back if you can. It's what we both want anyway

>>43993002
>Would it be wrong for them to steal our aesthetics?
Yes
>Would it be hypocritical for us to complain?
No
>Would anyone be accepting enough to play along with the fantasy that theyre amab that has transitioned and their lil strap is a real gick?
Maybe rapebians or people like >>43992913
will for some pussy

>what such a cis woman should do
be normal and enjoy their already piss easy lives, and stop making my endless dismal nightmare even more unbearable

>>43993000
it's genuinely harmful to the psyche to realize that the psychosexual stages of development are the result of Freud treating diapertroons and other hyper specific fetishes common in our kind
memetic hazard

maybe I shouldnt tell people

>>43992692
I've always said if we had lab-grown dicks a nonzero percentage of cis women would want one too

>>43993028
hmmm id really love to help you xr. xanon
do you happen to own a firearm?

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>>43993038
Cease this. This knowledge is dangerous in the wrong hands and it should not be shared outside our hallowed halls for a reason.

>>43993045
I say this but I also say the nonzero percentage of cis women were never cis, just on a different level of cope and repping than most of us could achieve

and that's why so many mums are abusive bitches to trans people when they're supposedly part of the gentler sex

>>43993045
they absolutely would but they should never have this. they didn't suffer for it like us REAL amab kikomimoders.

>>43989952
laaarp no foid knows this much

>>43993038
>>43993086
wtf are you people telling me that all the anal retentive/you want to fuck your mother stuff was just because freud was talking to steampunk trannies?

>>43992964
I don't disagree with your point at all, and maybe I did too much trolling here. But to steelman your point about representation, enbies are supposedly 1/3 the population of trans people anyway, and I have no other gen to go to. I don't even see other enbies in threads most of the time to compare behavior with much less related to despite hearing about them sometimes, I only know people from IRL. So sorry for derailing, just wondering how the fuck I'm supposed to get out of here.

>>43993055
NTA but from reading ur replies ur either underage or deeply autistic bcuz ur annoying in the "theres a reason people dont want to be around u" way. holy shit stop talking like a total autistic retard

>>43993130
yea

you gotta troon out if you goon out to freak shit, otherwise you'll never meet a community of like minded autists and you'll just keep bouncing between new sick fetishes til you're so deeply shamefast and repressed that what you're into is sick and disgusting, like infamous autopedophile AAP radfem germaine greer

>>43993002
I don't have much stake in this game, but I do find it amusing how perfectly trans women's arguments against cis women identifying as "AFAB transfem" mirror TERF arguments against trans women. Like, very uncannily similar.

>You're appropriating our struggle
>You haven't actually experienced the oppression that comes with being female/transfem so you have no claim to our identity
>If you weren't born female/AMAB then you can never be a woman/trans woman, it's just a biological fact
>You're obfuscating language in a way that makes it impossible to talk about our oppression

>>43993180
>"transfem" flag
>completely retarded xitter babble
oh great another one, can you go back too? This site is for evil nazis and incels its not safe to post here girlypop....

>>43993194
i dont have a funny or postironic way to express how much i laughed at this post so im just going to say it: lmao

>>43993194
>autopedophile AAP radfem
I completely unironically fit this description

>>43993232
weird underage autist(u have male autism btw!)

>>43993249
Can I study you for (pseudo-)scientific purposes

>>43993267
Yeah ask me anything, I have time to kill

>>43993002
the aesthetic is autistic foid and the issue isnt penis envy foids stealing it it's that penis envy foids fuck it up, absolutely ruin it
there is no explanation I can find for why its hot and /fa/ when a trans woman has dyed hair and a shitton of piercings and tats but its always in poor taste on a repressed pooner other than repression is poisoning their brains

>>43993249
I hate that this doesnt mean that you're necessarily a repressed pooner anymore, that you might be a fully transitioned trans woman who only became a fujoshi after it stopped being something she could achieve, or a trans man who is all kinds of twisted up inside
but if you are a poonrepper start HRT NOW

>>43993267
they're not that rare, you just gotta know some radfems

>>43993256
hey girlie, just stopping in to educate you and say misgendering is really NOT cool, theres nothing wrong with transitioning womyn having traits seen as 'male' by yt supremacist transmisogynistic society. trans folx are valid, full stop. neurodivergency has no gender. louder for the people in the back.

>>43993275
you can skip any of these and say as much or little as you wish
1) In what sense do you identify as a radfem and why
2) How does your AAP manifest? E.g. wishing for the physical traits of the male body or perhaps character traits
3) Did you have an overbearing mother or an absentee father (or both)?

I didn't expect you to say yes that's all I got for now

>>43993292
>you just gotta know some radfems
I'm amab so either I out myself and they would not talk to me or I don't out myself and that's rape for existing near them

>>43993358
hormone disorders are incredibly common among radfems, a lot of them have deeper voices and clocky cispoon features because of it
you can get away with a really shitty girlvoice so long as you've done a basic amount of voice training (dont use a voice changer cuz you'll overdo it and they'll know, unironically more likely to clock you than sounding like you smoke 6 packs a day)

>>43993292
>if you are a poonrepper start HRT NOW
I don't want to take T though, my ideal self image is a 13/14yo boy. Not a hairy adult man. I've kind of just confined those thoughts to a sexual fantasy and I intend to do more reading into Jungian psychology to figure out what's actually wrong with me.

>>43993358
1. I believe that sexism is a fundamental, extremely pervasive system that plagues all of humanity, and that men will never be willing to give up power in order to rectify it, thus I believe women need to unify and fight for our liberation. I could honestly go on indefinitely about this topic but I'll leave it at that quick summary. As to why? Well, I grew up female in this world. Not sure how more women don't end up radicalized by it, tbqh. Got catcalled for the first time at age 8, quickly noticed the absence of women in all of the classic literature, film, and history we were taught in school, got sent to "etiquette class" with all my female cousins while the male cousins got to play on the playground outside... I have been filled with feminist rage from a very young age
2. I just imagine myself as an adolescent boy in all of my sexual fantasies. Without going into too much detail, I've used toys and technology to simulate this experience and it's brought me greater sexual pleasure than anything else. Just a fetish I can't do much about, I guess.
3. Overbearing mother, yes. My dad was there but he was afraid of her too

>>43993491
>technology
i don't suppose you've dipped into the dark well of AI ERP to satisfy these desires?

>>43993525
On occasion. Mostly meant photoshop though. I'm against the porn industry, and a lot of what I'd be into is illegal anyways, so I create my own porn.

If you want to be a chick with a dick as a afab, then you shouldn't transition to become pooner. You are doing the opposite of what you want, pooning out fully just erodes your femininity. Maybe the low dose of T-gel to clit, but research it yourself.

>>43993002
i don't think they'd be doing anything different from what i'm doing tbqhon, every conscious gender presentation is fundamentally about skinwalking others, whether that's your mom or your dad or your peers or strangers on the internet

>>43993491
I see, do you feel that your mother was a good female role model? Did she ever shame you for being female or feminine or otherwise express disappointment in your sex?
Are you autistic (diagnosed)?

>>43993417
I know, chainsmokermaxxing is how I went stealth. I have noticed the correlation you mentioned but have never really thought of it as more than confirmation bias on my part.

>>43993584
No, she was not a good role model. Also didn't shame me for being female or feminine; she actually strongly shamed me for being too masculine and not performing gender roles well enough, which likely contributed to my hatred of gender roles in general. Yes, I was diagnosed with Asperger's in high school.

I know you haven't asked yet, but as for my views on trans people... I'm really not sure if I'm a TERF or not. I believe sex dysphoria is a real, debilitating condition and that transitioning is probably the best treatment for it. I'll call people whatever names and pronouns they want. But I don't believe one can actually change their sex and I'm not sure I believe gender is a real thing beyond a coercive set of stereotypes. I also think male and female socialization are real, inescapable, and persist into adulthood no matter what your gender identity is. So, smack in the middle on that whole topic, I guess. Trans Neutral Radical Feminist, if you will.

>>43989952
>I wanna be a tall with a twinky frame
to each their own, I don't like my lanky frame, and I'd rather be shorter

>I wanna know what prostate stuff is like and wear a chastity cage
I'd rather be able to just hit up any Lesbian I want and actually have a chance with her.

>I want to love being a girl
That's super real, and honestly I very much respect that. I hope I can get to the point where my self hatred stops clouding my enjoyment of being a woman

I wish my cuteness, beauty, and kindness had been celebrated rather bullied out of me. I wish I could wear beautiful clothes and not feel like I take away from their beauty.

>>43989952
Try being a pooner

>I wanna be a tall with a twinky frame
You can be twinky as a pooner
>I want to secretly order hormones and take them
Testosterone is even more secret (it's illegal without prescription!)
>I wanna be at work worried about people seeing my hrt boobies growing in
You get to be worried about people noticing your poorly binded moobs
>I want to make my first trip to the store to buy girlmoding clothes and have my heart pounding as I pick out my first dress
This but with speedos and dakimakuras
>I want to experience coming out and knowing who rejects me and who supports me and knowing who my real friends are
Check
>I wanna know what prostate stuff is like
Trans men eventually grow prostate-like tissue on T.
>and wear a chastity cage and be lewd with another transbian discovering our new feelings and new bodies together
ST4T
>I want to love being a girl
You won't, but you might love being a man.

>>43993491
you dont know your own ideal self image if you're closeted because you've never been yourself

could be you're attracted to other pooners who look like 16 year olds and have a totally different idealized self, the confusion of sexual interest and self image is a common faggot L
plus testosterone will make you more rational and able to examine your own thoughts, and suppress periods and make manic episodes rarer

>>43994137
>plus testosterone will make you more rational
Thank you for beautifully demonstrating the reason I'm a radical feminist

>>43994118
it's a 1 in 6,000 chance to get caught for possession of T in the US, as in 5,999 people a year (per capita, actual number is something like 100 arrests each year to 600,000 predicted users) get away with it

and most of the people who get caught are dealing, not just using

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>>43993696
Thank you for your time and answers anon, I am out of time and questions for now but I will use this information irresponsibly in a wildly speculative fashion like Freud would've wanted.

>>43994167
denying the link between mania and wildly fluctuating hormones is itself irrational belief persistence
surely you go through that enough to know how full of shit you are, even if you personally dont get mood swings that heavy you've gotta have known and experienced living around BPD because the community is full of it

my BPD was effectively treated by having my monthly killed and E suppressed
I've heard of trans women who had the inverse, the big moodswings are probably caused by a mix of hormones, which you'll have
there is unironically a lot of medicine that isn't spoken aloud because it will offend peoples bitch mothers and it's a problem because it means the explicit misogyny can hide in the dark much more easily

>>43994230
Anytime anon, I look forward to reading your eventual publications

>>43994248
>men are LE STOIC AND RATIONAL and dont have le mental illnessses EVER unlike us STUPID WOMEN and our ESTROGEN ruining EVERYTHING... mental illness is a FOID PROBLEM

>>43994248
Not sure exactly what you mean by "mania" here. I have no mood or personality disorders and have never experienced mania by any medical definition.
Testosterone makes people pick fights with strangers, punch walls, and try dangerous stunts. That's wildly more irrational than me occasionally being irritable on my period. The perception that women are more emotional only exists because men have successfully rebranded anger as not an emotion.

>>43994332
the hyper masculine are soulless automatons
the hyper feminine are manic children

a balance must be struck, but to those with extreme periods the hormones are constantly unbalanced, gotta cut that bit out
I remain convinced half the action of SSRIs that makes them test better with women than men is just hormone cycle suppression as one of the side effects

>>43994332
>>43994352
I want to make it 100% clear that I think stoicism is a mental disorder as much as mania is
being histories most famous stoic is why Marcus Aurelius was cuckolded by his wife, humans are not meant to be emotionless or distant from one another

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>>43989952
haha what if we dated and you just lived vicariously through me

>>43990667
lmaooooo based

>>43994387
you've gotta say it with a whole lot more fetishism than that nona
a woman who wants to live vicariously through me and vice versa can only be enough if we're both debauched whores and have come to peace with that and have some kind of detrans kink (cuz if you're not getting off to me imagining myself as you as a man then you're not gonna have a good time with it, I can get off to you imagining yourself as me as a woman, I'm autosexual enough for it)

>>43989952
as miserable as i am, i am glad to have been born as cis male when i read stuff like this

>>43989879
shut up armo

what are the chances this is not a larp

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>>43994600
as a pooner who dates other pooners? very high
its real

>>43989952
my personal take - you’ve seen a lot of subcultural trans spaces online and have come to romanticize many aspects of transfeminine life. it’s a lot like how the rich romanticize the rugged authenticity of poverty or how white people sometimes romanticize the history of political struggle and rich sense of culture and rootedness found in black communities. but just like with those prior examples, your outside perspective means you’re not getting a full picture. being trans effects my life in many huge ways but day to day and moment to moment it mostly just makes things 80% shittier in a bunch of really benign ways.

my advice to you is twofold. one, hang out in some trans adjacent or generally queer spaces. befriend some trans girls. don’t be weird but get to know some of us and hopefully you may recognize that we’re way more complex, boring and human than you think. secondly, look at the parts of trans womanhood that you admire and wish you had and think genuinely and deeply about how you could learn from this. think of how you could learn to love womanhood by seeing what we love about it. think about how maybe you could learn something about personal authenticity that applies to your own life from trans women.

reading this response I don’t really think you’re ftm, but maybe I’m wrong. or maybe you’re just nonbinary. either way just calm down, chill out, maybe meet some new people, take things slow and be reflective in a constructive way.

>>43994625
why do ftms want to be mtfs

>>43994640
to transition sex without becoming the rape gender or losing privilege

its idealizing trans woman as a third sex, its actually toxic and gross fetishism and I get it, I really do, I understand exactly how and why it appeals but it's incredibly disrespectful
unless the tgirl has a detrans kink, then we eat good so long as we can separate the disrespect in the scene from respecting the woman as a person outside of it

>>43994365
>>43994352
i am male and had healthy levels of testosterone and i was still extremely mentally unstable before getting on estrogen

>>43994712
yea the dysphoria will do that
one way or another transition is gonna be the cure for much of what ails ya, I just find that this angle sometimes works on dumb poonreppers

>>43994712
i'm a /lgbt/ tourist, you're a male and you take estrogen? you can do that?

>>43994752
im not dysphoric
>>43994768
yes but its kind of gotten turned into just another stupid meme

>>43994768
cis men on estrogen, it's all the rage these days.

you should try it

>>43989952
I think that frankly you are a trans man and I believe this because I had analogous inverse experiences

You probably crave some combination of being AMAB (duh) and, as you have said, loving being a girl

Bitch do you know what it means when you don't love your gender? There is a solution for this!

But yeah to be honest I was also like you in that I did kinda specifically crave this exact experience and I got to have it for real. It is actually genuinely very fucking nice in spite of the challenges we face. In this way, I am like you. :3

>>43993002
Not at all because we are, like them, women. If there can be trans women who like being trans women, why can't there be cis women who would genuinely be happier as trans women? I do not feel like I would rather be cis. I like who I am, specifically. People who think this way I think think of themselves as a third sex and I think that's sad

>>43994893
lol

>>43993002
I unironically look forward to the 3-hour long Contrapoints video essay about this.

>>43994629
A very sobered take, I'm not sure if it will be appreciated here since all these tranners already threw their hats in the ring