What's objectively better? Trying your hardest to transition and giving yourself all the means to do it, and then embracing all your desires and becoming a sex-freak, or giving up on all your desires, becoming a religious volcel and entering a monastery?What's the best choice here, huh? I wonder.
>>43991160monastery options are dying out. have fun finding one that would accept the type of person that posts here.
>>43991248So second option = bad option?
>>43991266yes. only take the second option if you live in like africa or north korea.
>>43991160currently doing first option and it is still very fun.
>>43991307betting $20 you're an EEF tranny
>>43991276Isn't religion banned in North Korea? Feels like a dying or dying non-option.Thank you for your opinion.>>43991307Thank you for your opinion..
>>43991325idk what eef means here? Do u mean MEF? and idk. im mostly a transbian so yeah im sure ud be disgusted by the sex i have. But im having fun
>>43991361The Elite Economic Forum, secret club within the WEF.He's betting 20 bucks because he isn't in the club and is poor. You aren't.
>>43991361>>43991379>>43974345 >transitions at like 24>closer to gender-neuter before transition - think the asexual nerd>tall and lanky build; "thin brickhon">little if any breast growth>tends towards fetishizing cuckoldry>tends towards ethnic fetishism, occasional tendency towards pedophilia>tends towards pacifism>usually starts with orally administered estrogen; high chance to be on antiandrogens>low chance to be accepted by family>high socioeconomic status>high cultural influence>mostly found in "culturally relevant" urban centres [e.g. Seattle, Atlanta] and the midwest [e.g. Toronto, Chicago]
>>43991427>transitions at like 24yup>closer to gender-neuter before transition - think the asexual nerdp much, yes. i was a “girlfriend guy”>tall and lanky build; "thin brickhon"no. 5’8” 175. got some meat on my bones>little if any breast growthMy tits are quite nice imo. I definitely titmog many local trannies>tends towards fetishizing cuckoldryeh. more into the other classic tranny fetishes>tends towards ethnic fetishism, occasional tendency towards pedophiliano raceplay stuff. Age and incest play yes>tends towards pacifismumm… i guess? i dont love fighting. i argue a decent bit tho. Opinionated (bc malebrained ofc)>usually starts with orally administered estrogen; high chance to be on antiandrogensdid start on pills, Yes still on spiro. im an rx girl so probably getting hondosed teehee (i should rly switch to diy)>low chance to be accepted by familyme and family are great! coming out was tough for parents but they came around. all living grandparents supportive as well>high socioeconomic statusdownwardly mobile. so my family, yes, me, no. but they help me if i need it so. yes.>high cultural influenceuhhhh idk aboht that. but im working on developing some clout>mostly found in "culturally relevant" urban centres [e.g. Seattle, Atlanta] and the midwest [e.g. Toronto, Chicago]in one of those types of towns but not in PNW/East Coast/Midwest
>>43991351>Isn't religion banned in North Korea?yeah, i was just throwing around places where the first option would be too risky. ultimately youre going to hit point of no return or endure the unlimited humiliation the rest of us underwent to just do what was necessary
>>43991573>titmogbust and underbust?
>>43991623I don't get the redpill you're trying to make me swallow here buddy.What's the point of no return, and the unlimited humiliation ?You know I'm not new to imageboards but I'm new to this board and it's weird linguo and shit, so be gentle and slow with me, like with a toddler, aight?To me, the question I asked in OP is simple: Embracing all your desires or rejecting them? What's the best option? Being a tranny, if passing, is definitely a fantasy of mine, but in my eyes a degenerate one. On the other hand, becoming a monk is an option I have, but a fucking painful one, because being a monk is a life of pain. You have peace, but the cost is high.
>>43991715I attempted a form of the monk approach. It failed. I was fortunate that I was still young enough to troon. You will need to embrace these desires or youll rot inside in ways you cannot even conceive currently. The pain if the humiliation of being mocked and seen as lesser by much of society, including people meant to be your peers here is where the ascetic strengths of a monk come into play.
>>43991678underbust: 35bust: 39so, like, nothing special by any means lol. i was using titmog sarcastically, in the sense that i titmog the girls who barely eat
>>43991760I'm starting to understand what you mean I think. Yeah.What do you mean by "rot inside", I've read others here say the same thing, that confuses me. Dysphoria for me hasn't gotten worse over the years, it was worse when I was around 07 (curr. 23)
>>43991949ageing as a man from 30-50 looks very different, like an additional slower puberty, thats the physical part of the rot. the mental rot comes from whether that physical part gets in your head enough, and the constant denial of self for ultimately no gain.
>>43992014Well physical rot comes to you at some point one way or another, if that's what you fear you'll kys the moment you start to look uglier, because you won't be able to do shit about it. What a terrible vision of the future.So the crux of the problem regarding that rot is just whether or not you have accepted or can accept that you will wither and die?Seems very human, I don't know how transitioning would fix that? You'll still age and become ugly as a trans woman no?
>>43991427>transitions at like 19yea>closer to gender-masculine before transition - think the repressed neo-nazinot a neonazi by any means but yea>naturally womanly build>rapid sizable breast growthlol no>tends towards being disturbed by cuckoldryyea>tends towards zoophiliano im not really a fetishist>tends towards weapon ownership and "warlike" mentalityid like to say im not a 40kfag but i do play paradox games thats pretty similiar>usually just starts with injections, high DIY and monotherapy ratesyea>higher chance to be accepted by familyno>low socioeconomic statuswell i leech off my parents so>low cultural influenceyea im pretty detached socially>mostly found in "unpopulated" areas and disparate urban centres [e.g. Kansas City, Edmonton]nah i live in a big cityoverall i got 7/12so ig im half farmer half indoeuropean whatever that entails
>>43992161ageing and dying as a woman feels mentally right to a trans woman, doing so as a man is too painful to the point that can have to stop living decades earlier. i am ageing towards how my female ancestors did, and i am calm and content with this withering. doing so as a man i was already on track to rope in my 20s.
>>43992195Well if that's how you know you're trans then I certainly am not.I have not the first thought regarding death.Should I die tomorrow, that'd be mostly fine by me, should I die in 70 years, that'd be fine by me too, although that'd be painful as hell, being 93 male or female seems like torture to me.Is that really how to know if you're trans or not? Never heard of that before, damn
>>43992334even imagining myself 40 and male or female was enough. dying a woman was important. but the prospect of a future is also part of it, why live another 30 years like i was, where i want to die every day, when could just be content and live a relatively decent life like i am now.
>>43992552Well that's the caviat though, sure being feminine and cute and womanly and all would be nice to me, I'd love it, but desu?I like myself as of right now, never been suicidal, I have a good life, maybe that's also where the difference is.But I'm sorry to hear it was like that for you though.
>>43992582Appreciate that. Maybe I dont have the right advice for you from my own experiences, but I hope you find some way to figure out what track you want to be on.
>>43992642People here have been generally very nice in convos.Thanks for the convo and for sharing your thoughts.