Why do you come here, ye chuds and labrys flags? What do you get out of posting repetitive messages against trannies?And why do you do so?
I come here to post normally in ftmg, but then it’s getting invaded by poltards as always, so then I see what other threads are up, and every Nth one is an ftm hate thread, so then I chudpost and post whatever the most recent article of an Mt”F” raping/killing/molesting a child is (there is no week when there isn’t at least one, wow!)
>>43994865they cannot create their own spaces without them collapsing from infighting or inactivity and nobody else wants to deal with them so they wash up here
>>43994903Every single lesbian subreddit gets banned within 3 months for not centering gock at all times.Every gay male sub is allowed to be openly transphobic because males are allowed to have boundaries.
>>43994897You get tired of ftmg because of chud posting, see ftm hate threads so you chud post mtf ones?That just seems like a cycle of violence, no?Does posting the mtf ones give you a sense of satisfaction like how revenge does?
I think trans people really think if they bombard you with propaganda, you will give in and pretend feminine men are women, and I'm just here to violate the status quo and show that you can reject the cult of gender identity and actually logically but soundly reject transgenderism and all its empty promises. Do trannies think it isn't repetitive to insist you are women all day long?
>>43994936Yes, I am returning balance to the universe by being tit-for-tat since the ftmg invasions and hate threads are from TiMs 99.9% of the time
I come here because I have a sexual interest in trans women, but I dislike most of them. They thrive on negative feedback and I am a very mean person.
>>43994967some of us dont think we are female we just are in such despair cause of gender dysphoria that the only way out is transitioning, i dont think gender identitty is a cult thoughh hell sex is many things but im willing to concede that one
>>43994997Based if female kys if male
>>43994999nice trips
>>43994897>heckin dood is dumb as hell and a spiteful TERFWTF why dont trans women love guys like this. Those fucking bitches.
>>43995029Kill yourself illiterate retard
>>43994865come out ye labrys chudscome out and give yourself a rubshow your dads how forced cobsons on the 'sharty...
>>43995044*you forced
>>43994999you think you are non male, or, at least, otherwise are compelled to perform self castration, I hate the ritual-turned-identity, I hate the word games, I hate the politics behind it
>>43994928That actually is tragic, lesbians lack a third space, both online and irl. Hardly any spaces exist online already, and there's like 2 lesbian bars left in the world>>43994967I guess a better question fit you is why here then, but I assume it's due to the anonymity. I don't know if it's the status quo for trannies to be seen as women though, seems very much 50/50 to 60/40 maybeI personally don't really bother insisting I'm a woman really, it's not very effective in changing anyone's mind anyhow>>43994973I don't think necessarily the ftmg invasions of hate would be, I know trans women would use it though. Hate threads yes, because cis chuds focus on mtf. Most minorities punch down to the one below them, and ftms are seen beneath. Mtf's conversely are then hit from both sides. I will note the use of 'TiM' is something i've seen criticized and generalized towards ftms usage of the term which is interesting you use it
>>43995038I don’t see where I said anything untrue. I agree with you bro. Trans women are fucking dumb cunts. Post more reduxx articles they deserve it.
>>43994897Based, MTFs are just often fucking evil to FTMs in my experience, really bothers me because most FTMs are better people than the average MTF.
>>43995068I don't just think you are a man, I want you made to stop taking hrt because it's sexist and harmful. Men taking hrt reinforces the idea that being a feminine man is wrong.
Will just be using asexual flag as differentiation>>43994997Which ones do you like? And unfortunately it does seem to be the case that many fed off negativity. The mentally ill find catharsis in reinforcing their self hatred, even to their own detriment. It's also why you'll see trannies post a selfie and say 'it's so over' just to find that feedback>>43995109Would you be against ones identifying as men still from using hrt then? I'm a proponent of bodily autonomy excluding trans identity, and would enjoy leaving most to their devices
>>43994973>ftmg invasions and hate threads are from TiMs 99.9% of the timeWhat are you even basing this on?>>43994967Anon you are the one behaving in cult behavior and making a bunch of empty, tautological statements that serve only to stroke your ego while you make them
>>43994865I'm still queer even if I hate trannies.Also picrel is based.
>>43995127I'm against anyone taking cross sex hormones at all or suppressing puberty or taking anti-androgens except in rare medically necessary cases like cancer. bodily autonomy presupposes a world that does not exist with no webs where we spin like tops on our own axes we are all connected and behave as a group, a herd
>>43994928Lol this too. Somehow the double standard only applies when men's feelings get hurt, how odd.
It's not vey conducive to the dialogue I genuinely want and enjoy for direct antagonism to distract those replying reallyIt's very obviously 4chan, but I would ask kindly to tone it down if not stop>>43995147I don't mean to say you aren't in any way, but that answers why here, but why at all for the specific anti-trans posting?>>43995153I'm not sure I fully understand, but then in an ideal world would you still be against it?I'd think from your earlier post the sexism would come moreso from the identifying as a woman, rather than the use of hormones
>>43995135> What are you even basing this on?Pure animal instinct
>>43994928>>43995159From r/gaymenIs it fair to say complaints about subreddits being too inclusive are so incredibly minor
>>43994865CHUD trannyfuckers are Queer and here because trannyfucking is bisexual (and often leads to future transbianism because it's the SAME bisexuality that can enable AGP)
>>43995206the sexism is from the taking of hormones, it suggests being a feminine man without hormones is wrong, which is sexist, try to follow alongthere is no world where I would be at all ok with men taking estrogenyour persistence only inspires my own
>>43995227Don't try to ruin their victim narrative you woke gender cultist
>>43994865I have seen trans people suffering and I like to help them with encouragement and kindness despite being a cishet tourist I love every single one of you
>>43995227That isn’t the main gay sub, this is
>>43995257My apologies, I think there's just a disconnect there as I don't see the relationship between some feminine men using hormones and others not doing so of their own choices to sexism and implying it's wrong to not use themWhy'd this start / come about? The adverse reaction to gender ideology
>>43995373Insane take but I think lesbian transphobes AND gay transphobes are both equally as bad and should be equally as shuned.
>>43995373I mean all those posts are from years ago and seemingly controversial. Atleast that’s what I think “0 votes” with all the replies means I’m not an avid reddit user
>>43995440because you believe its wrong to be an overtly feminine man without the hormones, that would make you suicidalyou believe your brain and your body have to "align" which is sexist and heteronormative
>>43995530Why does taking HRT mean i think its wrong to be a feminine man. Does anybody not wanting to be a feminine man make them think its wrong for somebody to be one?
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>>43995320thanks I suppose, not to leave you unrecognized>>43995530So far in, I've not attributed beliefs for you, I don't believe it's wrong to be an overtly feminine man without hormones. I recognize a difference between femboys, hrt femboys, trans women and crossdressersI don't take hormones as I believe it is wrong to stay a man, but rather in the pursuit of my own happiness I find it easier mentally to be on them and to present as I see fit. Suicidal ideation is something that one wouldn't actively control, nor feasibly do soI only believe my own body should align with my mind just as one who likes the color blue would prefer to wear that color
>>43995571Apparently this subreddit is about 4x bigger than the biggest lesbian one. Have the other ones just gotten banned or something? Or is it just because less women use reddit
>>43995530>because you believe its wrong to be an overtly feminine man without the hormones,literally nobody said it's "wrong", it's just not possible. testosterone comes for all moids, that's just a fact.what does "feminine" mean to you anyways? you rail against gender norms >>43994489 yet keep insisting that men can just perform femininity.what is femininity without gender norms to base it off of? makes no sense.
>>43994928>Reddit
>>43994967>She thinks trans acceptance is status quo
>>43995747Reddit is ~2/3rds male and was originally more like 95%+Also lesbians avoid the lesbian subs because they inevitably get either banned or modded by trannies that expel all actual women from the mod teams unless they give full subservience to gockThey just stay on tumblr or wherever masculine women have left on the internet to not be harassed
>>43995097IDK in my experiance ftms are a lot more normal than mtfs, and mtfs are just a lot more bitter and crazy. My theory is its just minority stress on full display combined with former white men losing their minds after becoming minorities and not having been raised up to withstand what actual minority stress looks like and how to navigate the world as a minority and keep yourself safe, so they step on every single rake and each of those rakes is 5 years of therapy.They then get mad at ftms because ftms are intoing male privilege and oftentimes white male privilege.Thats just my theory tho.
>>43995373>why does it seem like gay men aren't as "pressured" into accepting trans men as lesbians are for trans women? I would also like to know the answer to this
>>43995207That's pretty rude, anon. Why not try being nice instead?>>43994928I don't have the source on hand but I remember polls from just a year or two ago showed cis lesbians were overwhelmingly supportive of trans people at somewhere around 90%, hilariously even higher than trans people themselves. Its not a matter of trans people demanding that they be allowed in such spaces, its just a general consensus among cis lesbians to be welcoming to them.If anything I think a lot of trans people are absolutely terrified by the idea of imposing on other people which is why so many are repressors or boymoders>>43995530You keep repeating a strawman that shows you have a fundamentally incorrect understanding of what being trans actually means. I'm mtf and genuinely like feminine guys and masculine women but they have nothing to do with being trans beyond the most superficial level, being gender nonconforming and being trans are completely different things.>you believe your brain and your body have to "align" which is sexist and heteronormativeThis has nothing to do with sexist stereotypes or "social constructs" or "heteronormativity" or whatever such nonsense, its about actually feeling comfortable in your own body.Transphobes frequently trot out detransitioners and go on about how they've ruined their body or whatever, but how could that be if its all about social constructs? People instinctively understand how awful it must feel for a cis woman to develop male sex characteristics because she tried to appropriate a medical condition she didn't have, so why is it so difficult to understand that real trans people feel the same way due to actually having that medical issue?How would you feel if you woke up one morning with your junk swapped to that of the opposite sex, and every day your body changed in ways you never asked for as a result? Would you just passively accept it, or would you do whatever you can to prevent any further changes?
>>43995571Based and correct
>>43995839Because ftms are ultimately seen as harmless, there is absolutely no threat whatsoever to the status quo from a woman wanting to become a man, while a man wanting to be a woman is seen as undermining basically every instutition that has been made since forever, and so theres a lot more debate on it and so then theres a lot more need to overcompensate in support for it when there is support.Go read The Whipping Girl. Its a good book and talks about this stuff.
>>43995839Because males are seen as human and allowed to have boundaries.Women are fungible status tokens and no method of acquiring them is considered morally wrong by society.
>>43995864>Its not a matter of trans people demanding that they be allowed in such spaces, its just a general consensus among cis lesbians to be welcoming to them.No, it's because the mods are all trans. Even if cis lesbians support teams women in an abstract way, they don't want to be talking about gock all fucking day.
>>43995068>Most minorities punch down to the one below them, and ftms are seen beneathnah ftms are clearly above us in social status its punching up
>>43995872Yeah I've read Whipping Girl, thanks, but that doesn't explain why lesbians are more coerced into sleeping with trans women
>>43995839well for one thing because that wouldnt be much of a story for the daily mail would it? same reason you rarely hear headlines about "protecting straight male spaces" even though theyre the driving force behind transmisogynistic politics in most countries much more than lesbians are
>>43995839>why do men not whine and bitch about imaginary problems as much as women do
>>43995109You are just a subhuman hypocrite. Exactly like a poltard, this behavior ain't make you grow a penis. You have a inferiority complex and probably never pass. But then again the testoterone will erode you into what you are.
>>43995898why are men circumcised if they are seen as human, but women are not?
>>43995924genuinely in most of these spaces its cis women bringing up the Gock Question every other day to relitigate if My Genital Preferences Are Transphobic Or Not. I and most trans woman I think would really prefer if there wasnt so much song and dance about it but what can ya do? when someone keeps playing victim aggressively enough eventually they can piece together something like a victim narrative out of it lol
>>43995988I dunno man the trannies bitch a lot
>>43996037Meanwhile, in reality…
>>43995872>literally retarded tripfag>buys into whipping slopi mean i guess thats to be expectedserano cant even cite any evidence for her theories, its pure fanfiction. she only got published because her theories are a palatable way for cis feminists to pretend theyre being inclusive
>>43996090you seem to have a knack for bitching yourself, faggot
>>43996097Holy pseud
>>43996095none of these are about Gock unless you literally view trans women as Gock personified, which wouldnn't surprise me given how perverse you people are
>>43995127There is a sweet spot between narcissism and myopia that a particular fraction of MtFs fall into, those that can handle concrit the best are in that category and they tend to be more intelligent as well as more attractive. I don't yet have any particular favorites.
Why do snakes follow and then eat mice? Why do tigers stalk antelopes and rip them apart and devour them?It is in the nature of women and predator animals to hunt and harm and kill undesireables. Since murder isn't socially acceptable they come to our spaces and try to push us out of society completely.
>>43996127anyways I say this as someone who spent some time on /r/lesbianactually a long time ago (by far the less shit of the two) cis women genuinely refused to stop talking about Gock it was actually repulsive
>>43996117genuinely have the people regurgitating her talking points ever read any other booksabout like literally anything, fucking geology or renaissance pottery even
>>43996097im critical of Serano, but it seems to me like if you want evidence of her theories, a good place to start might be her book?
>>43996163How can i read anything over the sound of you huffing your own farts?
>>43996140Wish you luck in it, I don't know if the negativity would be healthy long term, but far be it for me to criticize another idk what the rest of this thread became desu, mostly reddit and gock argument or something
>>43996209sorry anon i dont brap for free, you gotta pay up if you want to experience the aroma yourself
>>43996194a book isnt evidence of its own claims, tard