for some reason whenever i see people hate me for being trans, especially terfs i dont get angry or defensive i just get sad. its like i want to convince them that we arent that bad, and if i cant, atleast convince them that im one of the good ones :( im sorry for being trans i didnt want to be but i cant change it either. im sorry for going to the womans bathroom i just kept getting told im in the wrong one when i was in the mens one and my friends got really annoyed with me when i didnt wanna go to the bathroom at all anymore. im also sorry for going to the womans lockerroom at the gym, its just that the lady at the desk only gave me the key for that one. and i dont change my clothes there and shower at home to make sure not to bother anyone. please just stop being so mean, yes we got weirdos in the community but so does every group of people, most of us are nice!
>>43998771Literally me :( I’m sorry i look so unfortunate, i wish i was anything but this.
>>43998771>im sorry for going to the womans bathroom i just kept getting told im in the wrong one when i was in the mens one and my friends got really annoyed with me when i didnt wanna go to the bathroom at all anymore.That's an excuse. You could just tell them you're male and go to the right bathroom.It's not like this doesn't already happen to some of us that aren't trans.
If you were sorry you would medically detransition and fully accept being male and stop calling yourself trans.
>>43998896Not op, but i tried. Trying to live as a man was so distressing that i couldn’t function. I went to therapy but that didn’t work either. If conversion therapy worked i would have done it believe me.
>>43998936then don't function, kill yourself, I'm never calling you she, sir
As the resident labrys has already informed you, there aren't any good ones. My introduction to the "queer community" (in as much as there is such a thing) as a kid was being the token tranny in what quickly became a radfem reading group. Some of them became vitriolic, some of them were cordial and gave serious ear to my own concerns about trans people's safety. At the end of the day, though, TERFs all believe that being transsexual is a choice. Even those who acknowledge dysphoria believe it ought to be overcome by means other than transitioning, but the they'll still see male-to-female transition as misogynistic cosplay, whatever gives rise to it. And whatever goodwill existed is eroding fast. If you want to be safe, be stealth.
>>43998965As ever it seems like it's stealth, detransition or death.How did you get end up in a radfem reading group as the one troon?
>>43998942oh damn ur like evil evil
>>43999013I'm not going to lie. Die already dude. >tranny>omg im gonna kill myselfok fine do it>omg ur evilthis is all just a game to you
>>43998998I don't care about this thread i just find your wording funny so i made this
>>43998942I’m sorry
>>43998998Had cisbian internet friend, was fourteen, didn't know better. This was right when Caitlyn Jenner first came out, I was the only trans person any of them had met and they wanted to pick my brain and see what the tranny thing was all about. Once the novelty wore off they stopped indulging me.
>>43999029One troon to rule them all,One poon to find them,One hon to bring them allAnd in clocking bind them
>>43998771holy self victimized. why do you guys always larp as victims. why are you always tricking women into sympathy?do you expect women to mammy you? put your binky on? should we clean ur boxers?
>>43999068mommy?
>>43999097British people still say mammy sometimes especially the older ones and older british people is 99% of TERFs
>>43998771i believe you're nice, anon. i don't give a fuck about the bathroom thing either. i also maintain that the dating pool of a lesbian does not include trannies. for some reason this gets me banned from most platforms and branded a literal hitler. i wonder why trannies don't harass heterosexual men the same way, telling them that sucking dick is totally straight etc.
>>43999121>i wonder why trannies don't harass heterosexual men the same way, telling them that sucking dick is totally straight etc.I do this im doing my best to psyop heterosexual men into thinking having sex with trans women is just as good and as straight as with cis women. This will get me a boyfriend one day
>>43999121>i wonder why trannies don't harass heterosexual men the same way, telling them that sucking dick is totally straight etc.they do though you just don't know cus you're too engrossed in your little lesbiansphere
>>43999121Straight guy here. Trannies absolutely do this. Just last night I took one of the freaks home and it didn't tell me it was trans until I had already sucked it off and swallowed. If I had known that was a MAN'S dick I never would've taken it home! Now I have to find a spot to hide it in my backyard, if it told me at the bar I could've just left it in the dumpster
>>43998771Hey nona, I'm sorry you're feeling so hurt by it. As someone who used to cry themselves to sleep over people I don't even know hating me, it doesn't change if you become 'one of the good ones' reallyI've been called one of the good ones for a few different things and at a certain point it starts to feel weird like maybe I'm accidentally being a pick meApologizing here as you can already see doesn't change much, you can't just apologize and expect people to stop hating you. You can just try your best to live as a good person and hope you meet more people like >>43999121 that don't immediately tell you to kill yourself. (Sorry for using you as an example Labrys) The majority of people you meet that hate you before knowing you won't change their mind, not everyone can be won over by realizing you just want a normal life; they'll be vitriolic anywaysThere's no direct things I did to change feeling pretty much the same way, but I have grown less panicked about it over time. The best thing you can do is to try and meet more people, go outside more and have friends outside of ones where people come just to say kill yourselfMaybe you can feel happier with meeting nicer posters, but I don't think it's likely. I've talked to terfs a bit and some won't change their mind just like you wouldn't detrans, some are filled with hatred, some have been hurt or assaulted by trannies and then other reasons too. I hope you can come over the fear an depression that comes with this though, it's part of the experience of being a minority of any kind really, random people will hate you for whatever made you different
>>43998771Hii, so I'm a labrys anon and I don't hate trans people. I dislike the ideology not the people. I am fine with them in bathrooms if they put the seat down and in changerooms if they are post-op although many are doing individual cubbies rather than changerooms now. You clearly aren't that bad and actually care about people. The ones I have problems with are the invasive ones who view women's boundaries as a challenge, and think they are 'lesbian' and entitled to those spaces.The mean thing about me, though, is that I do get a bit freaked out by some in public; it can be very jarring and uncanny. But I don't want anyone to kill themselves (except Trump), and I wish there was a proper way to cure gender dysphoria since transitioning is not a cure all. Also, thanks for not using the changerooms it genuinely does freak us out but you can just use a stall to change in which many people do these days :)
>>43999142I wish I didn't understand this woke ass sentence but this is literally them thinking that they are having lesbian sex when a woman sucks their dick
>>43999244>literally them thinking that they are having lesbian sex when a woman sucks their dickthe way i see it, trannies are always bisexual. they have male and female parts. sex with a tranny can't be straight or gay. it's always bi. this lands them in the middle where some things are black-and-white (male or female) and nobody quite knows what to do.
>>43999263Agreed.
>>43999263The word "transbian" pisses me off so much. Genuinely retarded. "I want to be special" Let's just erase sex-based attraction because it is exclusionary, even though attraction by nature is exclusionary
>>43999263Sexual reassignment surgery
>>43999288Doesn't look like an actual vagina; it looks like wrinkled flesh with a random button pretending to be a clit. If vulva-to-vulva contact happens, it can spread their high PH to us (since their microbiome is different) and give us infections. It doesn't smell the same, taste the same (apparently), or look the same. It is an inverted penis.
>>43998771I say this with the best of intentionsYou need to grow a thicker skin and just disengage from the axetardsLife is too short to waste time on this stuff, and it's definitely too short to waste time on this shithole of a website too, close your browser.
>>43999298I'd still hardly call someone who is attracted to natal and constructed vagina but not penis "bisexual" thoughever
>>43999068>do you expect women to mammy you? put your binky on? should we clean ur boxers?Why are TERFs such freaks holy shit lmfao
>>43999068>why do you guys always larp as victims. why are you always tricking women into sympathy?because they are women and women do exactly this at every possible move and opportunity they get. It's crazy you wrote this down without noticing the irony
>>43998771>im sorry for being trans i didnt want to be but i cant change it either
>>43999321No, often because they have higher rates of cluster B personality disorders. Not because they are 'women.' Up to FIFTY-SEVEN per cent have a personality disorder or narcissism. Not all women are dramatic or want sympathy all the time. Are you an incel?
>>43999238I'm curious now, what do you think "the ideology" entails, how can you hate the ideology without hating the people?
>>43999313I would call one attracted to a constructed vagina on a male frame bisexual, yes. Absolutely.
>>43999333If you're not cluster B you're not ensouled. Genuine cattle, but as expected from TERFs.
>>43999333Yes I'm an incel wby
>>43999344Cluster B is the norm, everyone else has NPC disorder
>>43999336Separating an ideology from the individual involves opposing the belief system, such as the prioritisation of subjective identity over biological sex, while acknowledging the person behind it may be experiencing distress. This stance allows for resisting a political movement that demands a redefinition of language and safety boundaries without harbouring personal animosity toward an individual.The ideology and its damages: - Erasure of Biological Reality: The movement demands that subjective internal feelings override immutable genetic and anatomical facts. It reduces biological sex to a meaning-free label assigned at birth.- Dismantling Sex-Based Boundaries: It demands access to single-sex spaces. This strips away the safety, privacy, and legal protections established specifically for biological women in shelters, changerooms, prisons, and sports.- Compelled Speech and Language Distortion: The movement forces society to use specific pronouns and corporate-style jargon. It rewrites core legal definitions and replaces the word "woman" with superficial, performative criteria.- Medical Pathologisation of Normal Variation: It encourages young, vulnerable, and often neurodivergent individuals to undergo irreversible cosmetic and medical procedures. This treats natural social discomfort or trauma as a lifelong medical defect.-The Erasure of Homosexual Orientation: It reframes same-sex attraction as a bigoted, exclusionary preference. This demands that actual lesbians accept male anatomy into their dating pool, which completely invalidates biological boundaries.- Cult-Like Conformity and Group Think: The movement requires members to repeat anti-female scripts and mandatory group pledges to maintain an online simulation. It aggressively lashes out with emotional blackmail or slurs whenever real boundaries are set.
>>43999344nta. is this a bot reply? zero understanding of what anon said, just pulling on keywords.
>>43999368Funny that you say that, look up narcissistic solipsism. You may find you have some traits at the very least.
>>43998896My body my choice
>>43999377With these annoying ass captchas, I doubt it
>>43999338There are actually trans people who pass. If I'm going down on someone and she has all the secondary sex characteristics of a woman, fat redistribution to the hips and chest, feminine face, and no penis I'm not going to start thinking of her as male because I pulled out the X-ray machine. I'm not attracted to a person's ephemeral natal gendered essence I'm attracted to what I see with my eyes
>>43999379My changeroom my choice. Get outta here, buddy. Funny, I actually got no say in the erosion of sex-based rights; it was top-down, not bottom-up, no referendum, no consultation of the public, just gone. Poof. My country not my choice, clearly
>>43999384does 4chan show different captchas based on location or network type? my captchas are easy. easier than prior to the update.
>>43999395Actually it's private property not yours
>>43999378I'm just saying stuff for the sake of it, I don't actually believe thatI'm not really narcisscistic, I'm bpd and cluster C, life fucking sucks, and yet people want to have this?
>>43999393You can say you are 'questioning your sexuality,' but you are just playing mind games with yourself to avoid admitting that you are simply a bisexual guy. Trying to pretend attraction is purely superficial just because your eyes can be fooled by plastic surgery and estrogen doesn't change what is actually in front of you. You don’t need an X-ray machine to tell the difference between men and women. Human instinct is hardwired to pick up on natural male and female traits. A surgically built vagina on a male frame is still just an inverted penis. It has a completely different microbiome, high pH levels, and none of the actual biological markers of a woman. Real lesbians and same-sex attracted women are drawn to actual female biology not a performative costume, a medical simulation, or a softened male silhouette. Demanding that women pretend physical sex doesn't exist just to help you sort out your own confusion isn't a complex sexual awakening. It is just basic male entitlement wrapped up in a progressive online script because you are too uncomfortable to own your actual preferences
>>43999397They are better now, at least I remember when they were those tedious, dragging ones that went on forever and glitched Now it is "find the image that is not like the others"
>"my changeroom my choice">not even the property owner Nona...
Property rights are human rights Nona
>>43999404I swear, people say they have things they don't to be quirky these days, like having a disability is fun. Oh, and the use of words like "overstimulated," "vocal stim," etc
>>43999426I actually resent this too, maybe we have more in common than you think
>>43999424Not your property either, bro, also tons of you guys ignore private property rules anyway Why the gatcha picture, I haven't seen that shit since I was like twelve
>>43999430As the property owner I'll have you know I resent having to provide shitter facilities entirely
>>43999410Fair fair, I've never paid enough mind to pH levels to notice. Fwiw my sexuality isn't what I'm questioning, it's the gender identity. I don't mind thinking if myself as bi, I just don't pay enough attention to the differences between cis and trans women to think of them separately in terms of attraction
>>43999414>not even the property ownerYWNBABYou will never own capital You will never own a factory You are a WAGIE
>>43999068id prefer to be left alone>holy self victimized. why do you guys always larp as victimsyou talk completly indistinguishably from male incels. i am also not making myself the victim im just describing how i feel. this was badically a vent post.
>>43999429I tend to, since I'm neurodivergent (diagnosed), which is why it sort of upsets me more, as in the ideology and people suffering from GD. I understand the people. I just think, there has got to be a better solution. Imo if we didn't assign stereotypes and gender roles to different genders, people could live freely, and we could still operate some things on a sex-based basis, and people could feel like themselves. Saying trans women are trans women stops comparing them to biological women, which tends to fuel their dysphoria. I also don't think bottom surgery is fully safe but that's another conversation
>>43999424Human rights don't exist
>>43999379WAIT A MINUTE, it is the bunny guy
>>43999426pretending that you've experienced trauma your entire life, have multiple attempts and can barely function in life makes you quirky I don't even mind people saying "Oh I might have" if they suspect it, but when someone says "I'm bpd :3 I cried like 20 minutes yesterday" it's annoying
>>43999482Makes it feel like my disability/neurodivergence is just an excuse desu and not valid.
>>43999481Looking into this!
>>43999461Nona I was diagnosed with ass burgers when I was 5 years old and that's not even a diagnosis anymore, but I can't tell anybody I have autism because nowdays everybody has autism because of Tylenol can you believe it and ADHD and everyone says they have the overstimulation so I just normiemaxx to not look like a cringe larper and I've gotten quite good at. Not ideal but it's a doggy dog world out there
>>43998771>for some reason whenever i see people hate me for being trans, especially terfs i dont get angry or defensive i just get sad. its like i want to convince them that we arent that bad, and if i cant, atleast convince them that im one of the good ones :(>im sorry for being trans i didnt want to be but i cant change it either. im sorry for going to the womans bathroom i just kept getting told im in the wrong one when i was in the mens one and my friends got really annoyed with me when i didnt wanna go to the bathroom at all anymore. im also sorry for going to the womans lockerroom at the gym, its just that the lady at the desk only gave me the key for that one. and i dont change my clothes there and shower at home to make sure not to bother anyone.>please just stop being so mean, yes we got weirdos in the community but so does every group of people, most of us are nice!this is why trannies always losefucking femoid bootlickers
>>43999448Do you like my capital Nona
>>43999518$15,99
>>43999513I was diagnosed with asperger's at four, based on a gut feeling of my mother's, my dad thought it was normal (guess who I got it from). I actually have friends who are trans natal females, and a family friend who identifies as a woman and every single one has asd. ADHD was diagnosed late in teens, though. I had to mask a lot for everything since I was in a judgmental school environment. Got so good they'd have to set traps up instead of me making social mistakes. Plus, finding out that being seen as attractive helps fit in, which started my beauty hyperfixation. Interesting how different female vs male autism presents though, since my male family members are completely different
>>43999518That is NOT Capital that is MONEY and you will NEVER own the MoP
>>43999538$20,000
>>43999410I think this is silly as sexual attraction goes entirely by appearance. Men lusting after another man who is identical to a woman can't be said to be gay or bisexual, the attraction is gynephiliac by nature. If a man is attracted to women and people that are identical to women then he is just heterosexual
>>43999543Damn nona you actually mogged me getting diagnosed at 4 I was a lateshit getting diagnosed at 5 I mean I was already in kindergarten atp ... ngmiMy autism comes from my dad's side of the family. They're all electricians and engineers and mechanics and have absolutely no social skills
>>43999567You think that's bad, my grandfather is a doctor, and my father has three difficult degrees, including engineering, LMFAO. I was forced into social skills myself, but not them
>>43999461Suppose the gender roles abolished TERF utopia comes about.Would people be allowed to take cross sex hormones to change their physical appearance?
>>43999493It comes from randos using any neurodivergence as a genuine excuse and then people associate the conditions even more with shitty behaviorNot to say anyone with the conditions doesn't try the same occasionally, but it's usually inward shame instead of an excuse
>>43999587Social skills are good I guess my parents tried to cure my autism by putting me in a million sports when I was little and it worked somewhat but not entirely main thing I did was I am not afraid of talking to people my girlfriend says that I mask really well and I'm chatty which is true like when I get in an uber I just start yapping and most of the time I'm successful in getting the driver talking about how their day is going and another example one time at the gas station and the aisle of medicines I just started talking to this big black guy about how we were both sick and then we started brainstorming what was the best medicine available at the gas station to clear sinus congestion mind you this was in the hood like average white people would have been afraid of getting robbed but me and this dude became tight in less than 2 minutes
>>43999615>me and this dude became tight in less than 2 minutesThe thing they (allergies) fear most is when black and white unite to fight
Come to think of it we settled on a product with Tylenol in it so he's probably autistic now too
I was formally diagnosed with ADHD as an adult after struggling in college like the retatd I am and the instant I took the meds all my problems vanished. Makes me resent my parents for being "but that's like, meth for children bro!" Hippies so fucking much. They thought I had it but refused to get me any sort of help because "muh cognitive behavioral therapy is brainwashing" and the aforementioned "fucking meth for children!!!". I have made it a point to bring this up to them every chance I get and blame all my academic failures on them in the hopes that they feel guilty. Anyways, now I have managed to get into a masters in electrical engineering, not thanks to my parents
>>43999615Idk, I get randoms approaching me and sitting next to me, and this random girl said she had been wanting to chat to me all semester. Masking is pretty conscious for me since I have no filter usually, need to sit a certain way, and I being hypersensitive doesn't help since I notice all the glances and tone shifts.
>>43999649They say you can get addicted to adhd meds yet I forget to take them lmfao
>>43998771Pathetic, stop caring about some random retards on the internet. Also most of them are larping trannies anyway.
>>43998771Never apologize for being trans. Why would you want to appeal to those npc golems who will hate you no matter what? Fuck them
>we hate the social construct of gender but when a male person picks an aesthetic even remotely resembling something historically associated with femininity we will decry it as a misogynistic blackface
Never apologize for owning property rentoids are NPC golems
>>43999658>They say you can get addicted to adhd meds yet I forget to take them lmfao>psychiatrists lied people diedYou hate to see it
>>43999838Hello Rabbi
>>43999843Happy Tuesday hope your week is off to a good start and if it's not well then I hope it gets better!
Kill them if they dont like u duh
>>43999843>Rabbirentoids cannot comprehend a landchad who can afford indulgences for his usury while still turning a profit
>>43999840First thing they recommended to me was ritalin and it made my heart-rate 140-160 bpm lmfao.
>>43999864I'm Anglican but especially dating a Latina I do have an affinity for the Catholic church and Catholics since Catholicism is real big down in Mexico, if you ask me I think Mexicans do Catholicism better than anybody else
>>43999868perhaps we aren't so different after all... I am on close to the max dosage of vyvanse and I am approaching a very low BMI and can't exert myself without sweating massively and running out of breath, but at least I can sort of lock in>>43999878BASADO. Not Mexican but they do it right down in South America, American Catholics are basically larping Evangelicals atp.
>>43998771personally for me it's because they wouldn't touch my dick and wouldn't demand piv from because people who want piv from me (or pia if we're talking about men) ARE EVILidk if anybody can relate
>>43998771get some spine coward, you shouldn't care about them, when the most reasonable take they do is for you to not exist, they just behave the same as the men who rape them and force them to be housewives, I don't have empathy for those who still repeat the same rethoric, can't feel bad for them either, they deserve the loss of rights by voting on super hitler because he said he will ban trannies while voting for the progressive feminist means accepting trans people as humans
>>43998896>>43998848If you loved biology you'd offer yourself to be gangraped and impregnated
>>43998848>terf outs herself as cishon
>>44000000If you give me a whiteboard and 26 minutes I'll make you love biology no gangrape necessary
>>43999868Nta. Are there any ADHD meds at all that don't have weird ass cardiovascular side effects?
>>43999461TERFs are that dense when it comes to trans people aknowledge sexual dimorphism, without gender people would still take HRT lol, I don't care if I had to use "male clothing" all the time, if I'm dimorphically female lol, we transition to change our sexual dimorphism this is where your sex based rights talk is always ignoredWhy some of you are always trying to limit the bodily autonomy of changing sexual dimorphism?
>>44000000>quins wasted on a Labrys poster
>>44000081By the time the cardiovascular side effects ketchup with us there will be artificial heart machines and AI robo surgeons just take the pills nona
>>44000090Because it's the latest psyop to slippery slope people into fascism. Frog in slowly boiling water technique so when governments, which pretty much every major one on the planet at the moment is conservative leaning, starts to restrict agency over our own bodies people are already conditioned to accept that
>>44000081>>43999868Aren't there non stimulant medications for adhd like strattera.
>>44000144Ketchup
>>44000164They are useless tbhq
>>44000159>destroys conservatives>knows how major economies works>doesn't throw trannies under the bus to win
>>43998771I love how supportive you describe everyone around you being of your transition. I'm happy for you, nona :>>>43999121Hi. Your dating pool as a woman who happens to be a lesbian may not include trans women, but that does not entitle you to dictate what other lesbians' dating pools look like. Why are you so hung up on what is essentially a semantic argument around what a lesbian is and whether a trans woman's partner is a lesbian or not? It's just a label. Not all lesbians like trans women romantically and that's ok, but some do and that's also ok. Why is it your life's mission to exclude trans women from the label of woman?As to your question, I think it's somewhat simple, in truth. The overwhelming majority of trans women who like men are submissive and want to be the one sucking dick, not the one getting theirs sucked, if they still have it. They essentially want heteronormative relationships, with the only difference relative to cisheteronormativity being that they want to be the woman in the relationship despite their genitals. Transgender lesbians, just like cisgender lesbians, aren't always submissive, hence the difference.
You may not like it but this is what savior of liberal democracies looks like
>>43999455You are a male incel.
>>43999238> the ideology To me it seems like "the ideology" is literally just that trans people ought to be treated with respect and as the gender they are (i.e. consider themselves to be).> the invasive ones who view women's boundaries as a challengeIs this a real thing or is it just propaganda by people who want trans women to be hated?> The mean thing about me, though, is that I do get a bit freaked out by some in publicThat's normal. Even trans women feel the same way about each other sometimes. What's important is to counter that impulse and act like a kind person to ugly people anyway.> I wish there was a proper way to cure gender dysphoria since transitioning is not a cure all.Transitioning is not a "cure" but it is an effective treatment. Not everyone would accept a "cure" for gender dysphoria in the sense of "turning you cis". If your gender is a fundamental part of who you are, then that's like killing you and replacing you with someone else of the opposite gender.>>43999370but nona... "biological sex" IS a meaning-free label assigned at birth... sex is just the set of traits your body happens to develop over time. If you have XY chromosomes but no testosterone in utero, you will be born with a vagina. If you are born with a penis but take estrogen during puberty, your body will look just like a cis woman's, minus the penis. Sex is a lot more arbitrary than you give it credit for, but you're treating it like this metaphysical thing that binds you to an immutable destiny.
I stopped caring about people that can't be polite or treat others with basic respect, if you're just cis4cis only that's fine you can have preferences however when you try to say/imply I'm a man thats when I know you're just some seething loser that feels the need to police others that are just being themselves
>>44000144Not in my case. I might actually keel over thanks to arrhythmia.
>>44000188Because it's just pussy obsessed. They can't even fathom there are lesbian women who are indifferent to twat but love boobs. Or those who are romantically lesbians and identify as such in how they want to live their life but are sexually bi-leaning. Their behavior is no different from an overcompensating uncomfortably hetero person. They probably have the occasional fantasy outside of lesbianism but are so ashamed they need to lash out at everyone else, and as always with these fuckwits, trans are subhuman to them.
>>43998848it's not a bathroom for "males" it's a bathroom for men and she's a woman.>>43998896> if you were sorry you'd torture yourselfif you were sorry you'd self-flaggelate and put salt on your own wounds>>43998942she deserves to live more than you do. kill yourself instead of going on 4chan.org and pretending to be a woman to validate your transphobia.>>43999395it's not yours, retard.>>43999410> we can always tell, but longerkekw> inverted peniswe actually have better surgeries than penile inversion now :)>>43999424bnuy why are you wasting your time arguing with terfs, go back to lesgen> t. nona also wasting her time arguing with terfs>>43999461> if we abolished gender we could group people into sex classes and oppress trannies more effectivelykektranssexual women don't merely need to be treated as the gender of women, but also to become the female in sex or as close to it as is technologically possible. this is not a solution and seems to reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of how dysphoria works.>>43999481girl*>>43999590of course not lmaothey just want people reduced to their "sex-based" immutable fates assigned at birth, just like conservatives>>43999902yeah this
>>44000249arrhythmia isn't real nona nobody has that shit back home in China..
>>44000274they have to believe all trans women are peak male dimorphic to demonize that and call biological men, instead of just aknowledging that the small bi leaning part is just the cock and nothing more, the cisbians who are dating trans women aren't dating hulking bodybuilders, but at worst dating slender twinks, the only ones I can see dating non passing trannies are bishits who are with their ex pre hrt and find out she is lesbian after she trooned out, otherwise I don't see much cisbians dating non passing trannies
>>44000188>Your dating pool as a woman who happens to be a lesbian may not include trans women, but that does not entitle you to dictate what other lesbians' dating pools look like.that's retarded. so retarded you come across as a troll trying to bait me - and simultaneously as a tranny caricature. a lesbian is someone who likes full-on women with female parts. as i've already said, trannies are inherently bisexual >>43999263>essentially a semantic argument around what a lesbian iswe all know what a lesbian is. same as everyone knows what a table is, or a chair, or a cat, or a dog. objective reality has nothing to do with your insistence to be included; it's all feelings.
so many trannies are so cringe im starting to actually sympathize more with terfs these days. like they really are kinda right.
>>44000331I've known many but that's usually when the person is still transitioning. Everyone passes eventually unless they have zero social awareness and just aim to be strictly specific fetish or misogyny driven in their reasons for transition
>>44000340their body their rules, why do you want to dictate so much the dating pool of other people lol?Go back to crystal cafe or kiwi farms where you belong
When will you Nonas realize there is no rights but property rights...
>>43998771is not that you are bad, is that you aren't a woman, sorry not sorry
>>44000340lmaoPredictably, this is what I get for trying to engage with someone wearing the evil flag in good faith, I get called a retarded troll and my argument gets ignored. Do the world a favour and kill yourself. Indeed we all know what a lesbian is. A woman who only likes women, not a "pussysexual" "female" like you morons pretend it is.
>>44000325While the girl is trying to say sorry for existing, the TERFs are non ironically doxxing and harassing trannies for fun in their sites LOLThe worst thing for them is dealing with a tranny existingthe least worst thing they do with us is making a thread on Kiwi Farms and making us lose our jobs and kill ourselves lol
>>44000354words have meaning. you can't claim you're X while doing Y.>"welcome to the optometrist's office!">pulls out dental equipment>>44000365as i said, i get called a literal hitler to pointing out lesbians are women who are exclusively into pussy.
>>44000370Yeah. I wonder why we don't just do the same to them... what's stopping us?
>>44000354>>44000381+ the same applies to retarded bisexuals who identify as lesbians and sleep with men
>>44000355Just you in this situation. Take your schizo meds whispering conversion therapy at you because I didn't mention it once or even imply it. You're the worst kind of homosexual for trying to gatekeep a sexuality like it's immutable and I really do hope you can become a better person
>>44000381> i'd rather murder trannies than accept a minority of lesbians does in fact like sex with trans girlscool. murder yourself instead.
>>44000393>You're the worst kind of homosexual for trying to gatekeep a sexuality like it's immutableokay so you're a troll. apologies, please continue.
>>44000393Sexuality is indeed immutable. You're either born straight, lesbian/gay, asexual or bisexual. It's that simple. You can sometimes be mistaken about yourself but that doesn't mean it wasn't there all along.
>>44000397i am... murdering people... by pointing out lesbians like pussy?
>>44000381>words have meaningwho decides the meanings NonaWHO DECIDES THE MEANINGS NONA
>>44000397embarassing post...ur cock is so sapphic and lesbian sxster...you.are.valid...
(we collectively decide the meanings btw)it's true because we say it's true
>>44000415co-opt the term lesbian, another one will spring up. we need names to correctly identify things. the amab vs afab dichotomy is a hilarious example in which the terminally online reinvented the words "male" and "female" because turns out you can't make do. cope, seethe, etc.
>>44000412by trying to redefine lesbian to exclude trans women from the category of 'woman'
>>44000401No. I'm an actual human being with feelings unlike whatever the fuck you are going around telling people to kts and projecting what your batshit insane rules for lesbians are. Just say you prefer pussy and move the fuck on. A majority of people are going to agree with you about that so stop acting like some special snowflake living in the past.
>>44000421>"But bnuy, that won't... read well"
>>44000431>by trying to redefine lesbian to exclude trans womenredefining things is all about what came first. you're the one trying to redefine lesbian, not me.
>>44000430'tis the cycle of life Nona, they used to diagnose people medically retarded, now it's a slur, we're just along for the ride
>>44000444>t. political lesbian
>>44000430>co-opt the term lesbiananon is talking like the great replacement theory lol
>>44000444No, you seem to believe "everything was always trans-exclusionary therefore you're the ones trying to change the status quo!" but it's just untrue. And even if it were true, continuity is not the same as fairness.
>>44000457Billions must sissor
>>44000464I still got my dick so it's more like tridenting
I can't be assed to doxx some random Nonas over this website tbqh
>>44000491
>>44000455why are you calling me that? it doesn't even make sense.>>44000457something like that.>see a lesbian event>bunch of trannies>open a lesbian app>bunch of trannies>etc>>44000463anon, trannies didn't exist before hrt was invented. they were crossdressers at best. lesbians certainly did exist, though. so you are redefining the term lesbian by trying to include trannies, yes.>continuity isn't the same as fairnesssophistry.
>>43998771Do not be sorry for being yourself nonna,Look at them...>>43998896>>43998942>>43999016They're clearly evil.There will always be dickheads on this retarded planet. There will always be evil people that will want you dead for the dumbest reasons. Just ignore them. Don't let them tell you what to do with yourself and your body. They don't like you or care about you. If it was their choice, they would force you off of HRT and they would never let you transition. They're evil.>>43999068weirdo
>>44000066What if i want the gangrape though (for myself, I wouldn't touch a terf)
>>43998771You will be judged by the standard set by the wider community you are apart of.The only course of action is to just be yourself and those who accept you for who are you will do so.The more you try to defend others, the less of an individual you appear to be.Break the cycle, distance yourself from "pride"
>>44000496And my lady jewels as well
>>44000498this is a very weird way to define 'tranny'. you're only a tranny if you're able to access HRT? that's stupid. also HRT has existed for 100 years by now. and even as far back as Antiquity there were trans priestesses who were able to procure certain sources of estrogen in nature that had some feminising effects, though imperfect.
>>44000498>>continuity isn't the same as fairness>sophistry.retardation. if you don't understand the words, say so. the status quo isn't fair just because it is the status quo.
>ban lesbians for stating they are only interested in women (female) on dating apps>reeee why don't lesbians like trannies
>>44000479like KF always did it lol, they always get away with that
>>44000537It's capitalism Nona, the trannies are more profitable and numerous . You must respect their property rights to run the app as they wish
If you do not like the way the property owner is running their application you may create your own. They know what is best for their business and their obligations is to the SHAREHOLDERS not cis lesbians or any other group for that matter nona
>>44000526>you're only a tranny if you're able to access HRT?you are this close to arguing that lesbians are attracted to non-hrt crossdressers btw. you take hormones, you're trans. you don't take hormones but dress and act like the opposite sex, you're a crossdresser. you do none of the above but consider yourself trans, you're a repper.>>44000535you don't seem to be able to understand that two different things can't be the same thing.
>>44000448FED POST ALERTI mean yeah haha let's show them what a REAL victim is amirite my fellow transgendered TIMs
>>44000544>Capitalism is when bad people monetise bad behaviourBut instead of condemning the bad behaviour and breaking the cycle, you blame """capitalism""" for the actions of those who monstrous behaviour was so wide spread it could be monetised.
>>44000571No rights but property rights nona
>>43999608being autistic is an awful experiencie, alike to being retard, but now is quirkyfied because "muh stimming"
>>44000537It was bought by conservatives who support heteronormativity. The same conservatives who also use TERFs as useful idiots . Welcome to project 2026. Now go make babies, go to white church, and get back in the kitchen as all women were created by god to do. Every time you attack a trans person, remember what you're fighting for. Pro tip. It's not your rights.
>>44000592you're mixing up her and grindr. her was acquired by match group in 2025 iirc. the tweet i posted is from 2023, but little has changed. meanwhile, grindr is owned by conservatives.
I too am tired of ugly troons on Hert. Hot troon
>>44000537you're not hated for only wanting to date cis women, you're hated for being transphobic and calling trans women "men". simple.>>44000583yeah... it has some upsides but a ton of downsides :(
>>44000676>you're not hated for only wanting to date cis women, you're hated for being transphobic and calling trans women "men".lesbians are absolutely hated for only wanting to date cis women, what the fuck are you on about?
>>44000710only by terminally online transbians.the rest of us don't give a shit if you have a preference for cis women. it's your life. but every single one of us will hate you for calling us "men", or redefining the word lesbian to imply it.
>>44000633Match group owns pretty much every major hetero dating app and site including the nuclear family bible thumping ones
>>44000731idgaf. i'm not going to accommodate randos.
>>44001009but you expect randos to accommodate you? lmao enjoy being banned from every platform
>>44001027the terf mentality in a nutshell: i won't do anything for everyone else but i expect everyone else to do everything i want! me me me me me me
>>44001027>but you expect randos to accommodate youone is an attempt to redefine my sexuality to include something that has never been part of it, with real life consequences. the other one is... again, who am i murdering by saying i only like pussy? nobody is stopping you from chasing bisexual women.>>44001056i didn't realize the e in terf stands for excludes-me-from-dating-pool.
To sum up.>i maintain that the dating pool of a lesbian does not include trannies. for some reason this gets me banned from most platforms and branded a literal hitler. i wonder why trannies don't harass heterosexual men the same way, telling them that sucking dick is totally straight etc.A single paragraph starts a massive slapfight insisting the above is a hate crime. The paragraph is thus proven to be correct. One person gets banned for calls to violence against imaginary TERFs. OP cries in the corner.Amazing.
>>44001072> redefineyou're the one trying to redefine trans women out of womanhood and to force your transphobic definition of lesbian on everyone elseyou are, indeed, the bully. but it's always me me me, a perpetual victim, only things that affect you have "real life consequences" (being banned from an app), spreading transphobia and trans panic doesn't have "real life consequences" (trans women being murdered, or raped in men's spaces).> chasing bisexual womenI have no interest in chasing cis women, she'd have to be the one chasing me for me to be interested. I'd rather just be with a man than be in a relationship where I'm expected to act like one.> i didn't realize the e in terf stands for excludes-me-from-dating-poolThe hilarious thing is that it does, because even well-adjusted cis lesbians want nothing to do with you.
>>44001221>One person gets banned for calls to violence against imaginary TERFs.lmao the moderators didn't even approve your bullshit, terfjanny. you really thought... hahhahahahha
>>44001277I don't know what you're talking about. There was a fed post trying to get /tttt/ to dox and swat someone. It got deleted, deservedly so.
I maintain that the only obligation of business is to the shareholders
>>44001260>only things that affect you have "real life consequences" (being banned from an app)i don't think you understand that to a non-trans person all of this "gays can eat pussy, lesbians can like dick" reads as homophobic. that's exactly what homosexuals are told since childhood: you need to try dating the opposite sex, you need to try dick or vagina, surely your sexuality isn't set in stone, it's fluid, etc. bisexuals don't experience this type of harassment, neither do trannies.>you're a lesbian? you don't want me, a man? but lesbians can like dick, they date tranniesi've already heard this shit once, from a teenager.getting banned from apps is also a real life consequence for a demographic that can't enter a random club with the expectation to find someone.>I have no interest in chasing cis womenokay?>The hilarious thing is that it does, because even well-adjusted cis lesbians want nothing to do with you.mine is in no way a controversial opinion among lesbians. sorry.
I don't think you understand that I have shid and fard in the ladies room in all 50 states and they'll never catch me
NOT GONNA GET US NONA
>>43998771dumb fucking flag for women that wanna feel macho. Might as well be a black power fist or a fasces.
>>44001403>I don't think you understand that I have shid and fard in the ladies room in all 50 states and they'll never catch meit's true btw I've seen it (I was also shidding and farding in there)
>>44000185>>44000202Based
>>44000431"redefine"??? Trannies are the ones trying to redefine the word "lesbian" to include penis
>>43998771Boo hoo, I view you as a perverted man
