>>44011188
that's a very nice hypothetical
have you got any evidence to back it up or is it just the usual TERF "what if" bullshit where you invent a scenario that supports your unsupported worldview

>>44011188
Idk ive lived with cis women and used the toilet with them so clearly not all of them agree

listen all trannies have to do is acknowledge being hyper-feminine males and also not try to coerce females into sex and no women would ever have a problem with them. those were the only two complaints jkr ever had before getting death threats and penis pics and whatever from insane hons for years

>>44011188
>source?
>my shit encrusted ass

>>44011209
this doesnt happen and you'll still be abusive to the people who pass your tests anyway

purity testing by people who are fundamentally shit is pointless
you are garbage, you dont matter, why would anyone need your approval?

are TERFs the most delusional hysteric cunts in existence?

nothing but crybulling and appeals to emotion, utterly foided rhetoric
fuck I hate being born the same sex (and possibly gender) as these worthless sacks of shit

>>44011226
>hon rage
dude im a tranny too, relax. btw i know you might be really autistic but actually being a good person DOES change other’s perception of you

>>44011240
I have a worthless fucking hole dumbass

>>44011200
Your "lived with cis women and used the toilet" gotcha is a pathetic cope. Sharing a bathroom or flat with someone doesn't magically mean women are fine with redefining "woman" to include intact males, or that they want those males in their intimate spaces, sports, or dating pools. Women are polite and practical in daily life, which doesn't equal ideological surrender from them. Polls destroy this fantasy; biological women (and the overall public) support excluding biological males from women's toilets (51%+), changing rooms, prisons, and especially sports.

On dating apps, the numbers destroy the inclusion fantasy. Studies show only about 18% of lesbians say they'd even consider dating a trans woman in the abstract, and real-world behaviour is far harsher. Actual swipe and match rates for trans women on lesbian apps and sections routinely crater into the low single digits, because lesbians are same-sex attracted to adult human females, not "gender identity." Trans women themselves frequently complain about near-total exclusion and low response rates in lesbian spaces.

The "all cis women privately agree" line was too absolute (hence the pushback), but pretending women's widespread private scepticism on toilets, fairness, safety, and who they actually fuck is some fringe "TERF what-if" delusion is the real unsupported fantasy. Women have lived with male violence patterns, physical differences, and same-sex attraction for millennia. Polls, detrans stories, prison cases, sports records, and app data all back the reality-based side. Your replies are just performative denial.

>>44011245
ok you pass im sorry

>>44011188
Eventually we'll convince them we're right, we just need to be louder and make more memes and more arguments. Just give it time

>>44011248
Not reading all that i can tell it bothers u i have cis friends who love me and arent bigoted tho

>>44011250
The Cass review and medical articles showing very few benefits will help. Also, separating the LGB from the TQ would be great for our own image since we wouldn't be associated with the freaks anymore

>>44011248
You're not pushing back against male violence, you're choosing marginalizing a minority as a primary cause over doing literally anything constructive with your time
oppression and systemic violence requires power, explain to me what power trannies hold

you are a distraction from women's rights that ensures that the people in power who hate women can work unimpeded to hurt women
there is a domestic violence epidemic and you are crying about trannies, you only ever cry about trannies

you do not care about women, you just hate trans women
at least grow enough of a spine to admit it
fucking coward

>>44011266
"Not reading all that" is the laziest fucking cope in the book. Your entire argument is "I have some polite cis friends who aren't mean to my face." Congratulations, women are socialised to avoid conflict, and many will smile and play nice while still wanting male-free toilets, changing rooms, prisons, sports, and dating pools. That doesn't make them bigots; it makes them normal. Polls keep showing majorities of women support excluding biological males from female spaces. Lesbians are even clearer: only ~18% say they'd consider a trans woman even in the abstract, and real swipe/match rates on actual apps crater into the low single digits. They want adult human females, not "hyper-feminine males." Trans women complain about it constantly. Your personal friend group doesn't erase biology, same-sex attraction, male violence patterns, or the widespread private scepticism. Keep telling yourself your anecdotes beat data, polls, sports records, prison incidents, and detransitioners. The "it bothers u" projection is pathetic. Women don't owe you validation of their sex or their attraction, and most aren't buying the full redefinition, no matter how many times you call it bigotry.

I am a cis woman with friends who are woke and just the average girl with few political opinions. When you bring it up in private, they can and DO contest it.

In terms of my woke friends, they hate the patriarchy and oppression and male socialisation (not that they know the exact name lol), even my friends who are trans men rarely speak to or interact with trans women. Some of them are exclusively close friends with cis women.

>>44011296
If i give you another (You) will you give me another paragraph?

>>44011273
>Also, separating the LGB from the TQ would be great for our own image since we wouldn't be associated with the freaks anymore

Wait, are you as a T calling the LG freaks? Hilarious

>>44011287
Lmao, the classic DARVO pivot: "You're not fighting real male violence, you're just mean to us poor, powerless trans women!" Bullshit. Defending actual sex-based rights for women is fighting male violence. Biological males commit the overwhelming majority of sexual and violent crime; that's not "hate," that's FBI, MoJ, and prison statistics worldwide. Self-ID policies have let intact males into women's prisons, shelters, and changing rooms, resulting in documented rapes and assaults. That's not a "distraction" it's the direct result of erasing sex-based boundaries. The Cass Review shredded the "gender affirming" experiment on kids, showing weak evidence, contamination by activism, and massive desistance/detransition risks. Women's rights aren't advanced by forcing lesbians to accept dick or letting males win female scholarships and medals.

You claim trans people have "no power"? Tell that to the captured institutions, corporations, schools, and media that pushed this for years while women raising concerns got no-platformed, doxxed, fired, or sent rape/death threats. Speaking of which: as a cis woman, I've gotten rape threats online from trans activists and dealt with a trans stalker. Plenty of other women have similar stories. That's not "punching up", that's males with autogynephilia or fetishistic cross-dressing using trans ideology as cover to access female spaces and demand validation.

I care about women, which is why I care about female safety, fairness, privacy, and same-sex attraction. Polls show most women agree in private. Lesbians swipe on them at 1-2% rates for a reason. Your "you just hate trans women" script is tired gaslighting. Women are allowed to prioritise actual females and reject males in our categories, full stop. No spine required to say it: sex is real, it's not hateful, and female boundaries aren't bigotry. Cope harder.

>>44011310
No, I as a L are calling the TQ freaks lmfao. That would be hilarious if it were the other way around

>>44011313
>>44011310
Ladies, ladies...you're both freaks

>>44011209
>not try to coerce females into sex
this literally doesn't happen
so obviously not

From what I've seen about 3-5% of women genuinely disagree and the rest have various degrees of honesty about their views

>>44011188
I'm a cis woman married to a trans woman. So I think you're wrong.

>>44011312
trans women are not the same demographic as men
treating trans women as the same demographic as men is a danger to women because it allows male sex and violent crimes to receive less attention from the media in favour of focusing on trans issues

you are a distraction to womens rights and to my bodily autonomy and rights
anti abortion lobbyists work with you, not against you

wake up, you're a patsy that distracts progress so the patriarchy can keep raping
murdoch media and rowling's money are behind you for a reason, there are no moral billionaires supporting you, just the patriarchy

>>44011248
>LAB flag
didn't read im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened
>>44011296
ditto
>>44011312
alright now im kinda impressed. You may tell me your personal story that explains your rabid hatred for trannies. If at any point it stops being a personal story i will stop reading

All cis women despise every person who was born with a penis, even if they pretend otherwise. No exceptions.

>>44011368
nah I hate to know with high certainty most of these idiots are poon reppers who take it out on trans women out of envy and bitter hatred of their own bodies
but I do know that
I have not been as far gone as TERFs, but I've been close
(chemical) castration for male violent sex offenders is based and the radfems are right about that

radfem circles discussing shit other than feminism trend towards penis envy and body image issues more often than anything
except maybe like, autopedophilia adjacent fujoshi Ao3/wattpad smut discussion, but that's always in its own channel/subforum

>>44011188
This is your reminder that Rowling's name came up in the Epstein files and the same day it leaked her private yacht's docking history was scrubbed from public maritime records

The problem that the cis women have is that you are basically doing all that for sex and gooning. How many posts have you seen with people having chastity cages while in women's toilets and getting excited, even some masturbating? You all are so deep in your fetishes you don't even feel it. I don't have a problem with you wanting to do that, but there is a better way. In my country we don't have much of these trans fetishists. When such individuals feel horny, they just become femboys for the encounter and call it a day.

>>44011303
Only if you post your wig

>>44011436
I actually have beautiful natural hair due to my grandmothers indio genes

>>44011188
Not really, but that's because I'm familiar with trans women outside of the parade of ugly predators JKR collects news articles about. If their only datapoints are indistinguishable from maximally-antisocial men, I can see why normie cis women might get the wrong idea initially.

Also, there is the whole thing with men in women's sports that I don't agree with either.

>>44011248
thanks for the input terfgpt

>>44011434
if conservatives understood anything about trannies you'd be a lot more worried about us masturbating in the men's bathroom than the women's
>>44011413
this has been my experience as well from hanging out in terf and detrans spaces
>>44011428
i mean im no fan of rowling but i think she just had her yacht's docking history show up because she'd been to inlands in the same chain as Epstein's, with no evidence she'd ever actually been there. i think i would also scrub my docking records in an attempt to avoid genting dragged into something that had nothing to do with me.

>>44011413
¿Qué?

>>44011436
do u really think the standard average troon is wearing wigs

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>>44011434
>trans women are all sex obsessed freaks
no more than TERFs

there is no trait that makes a trans woman unsafe in a womans locker room that isnt present in a TERF
if they're fags you're fags
if they're gooners you're gooners
if they're violent well shit, you're violent (I hate he/him dykes so much dawg I really despise them, they are the worst of us)

TERFs have an inherent maleness to them, because they're pooners bitter about being in the closet
most of you are faggy limp wristed gaydens at heart but that's really only about as masculine as a the most butch dyke tranny

>>44011465
it's takes an extreme level of connection and corruption to mess with maritime docking records

>>44011468
all "cis" radfems are poonreppers
only trans radfems are actually women, based on experience

>>44011481
oh yeah forgot to add >>44011434
(you) sound like glinner saying all of this

you clearly know a lot about sissy porn, faggot

>>44011481
well she certainly has an extreme level of connection, nobody would dispute that. and few people would deny that anyone with her amount of money is more than a little corrupt
she says and does a lot of vile things im just not convinced she'd ever been to pedo island

>>44011434

fuck you fuck you fuck you

say i have mental health issues but dont call me a pervert

looking in the mirror and crying due to dysphoria isn't the same as being fetishist

hating your own body to the point of being disgusted by it isn't being a fetishist

if this whole shit was just for gooning id still be on a testosterone body

for real, thats the most retarded take ive ever read

>>44011489
Idk what "glinner" means, and I'm not homosexual. I just told you what I heard from people and read online. I don't really like sissy porn because to me, sissies feel like budget women. I have a friend that has slept with trans women and told me some stuff too.

>>44011506
Epstein was a financier
Ghislaine Maxwell was a heiress to a media empire connected to a ton of publishing houses
Both were prolific socialites, Maxwell was notably big in London's upper class

Fucking Prince Andrew was a regular visitor of Epstein Island
Why on earth do you think Rowling is a stretch?

Oh and Epstein emails have been linked to funding various transphobic research institutes

>>44011188
What an ugly bitch

>>44011521
>f this whole shit was just for gooning id still be on a testosterone body
>
>for real, thats the most retarded take ive ever read
this is the dumbest take i see trannyhaters espouse
nobody ACTUALLY transitions for a fetish (inb4 what about this one example! idk ig you found one congrats) because hrt obliterates your libido for the first few years. Gooners don't make it past that filter. Yes, like almost every human on the planet a tranny will experience sexual desire. quell surprise, as they say.
>>44011535
i didn't say it was a stretch i said ive seen no convincing evidence

>>44011534
I like sissy porn because I like degrading men and I like when the men I degrade are men
tranny porn doesnt do it for me cuz I've dated enough to know that they have female souls, it sucks honestly

the big problem with this is how many "sissies" are just trans women who have drifted into a different subculture while repressing
the second I perceive dysphoria in a sissy I'm out, it's ruined if a foid is in the scene
actual gay cis men with extreme degradation kinks are so hard to find, so I just fuck other pooners who have detrans kinks instead

anyway seeing sissies as women is inherently a misogynistic take, I know this intimately
I mean shit the whole fetish is misogynistic but something about comforting the disturbed and disturbing the comfortable applies there

>>44011506
Why doesn't she use her immense wealth and connections to go after the Epstein folk... oh wait her connections are the Epstein folk

>>44011570
disturbing

>>44011188
on a purly professional level, Rowling is a hack and it shows just how chuddy women can be as a testament to her popularity. Men and women have more in common than anyone will ever give any credit to.

>>44011539
i also object to this characterization
first because i dont agree, i think she looks fine for a woman her age and aging is a normal thing that shouldn't be vilified (patriarchal pedo beauty standards yadda yadda you've heard it all before)
but also because even if she's ugly: so what? that's not why she's a bad person. the two are unrelated. it's not okay to be evil if you're hot (inb4 some femdom shitpost: yeah me too ok but let's lock in a little)

>>44011312
>The Cass Review shredded the "gender affirming" experiment on kids, showing weak evidence, contamination by activism, and massive desistance/detransition risks
Me when i make shit up
To be honest thats all of your responses but this is particularly funny
The only ROGD study done on patients (not parents) failed to show evidence for it btw, AYAGDOS

>>44011584
:)

>>44011570
>the big problem with this is how many "sissies" are just trans women who have drifted into a different subculture while repressing
nearly all of them
>t. former sissy
>actual gay cis men with extreme degradation kinks are so hard to find, so I just fuck other pooners who have detrans kinks instead
based and real and also ur based btw
>>44011574
yeah probably
also there are bigger fish to fry: i heard a trans girl somewhere in wales kicked a ball the other day need to crush her will to live rq

>>44011597
I respect it but wtf

>>44011312
>massive detransition risks
>fewer than 10 out of the 892 patients referred to endocrinology indicated any kind of detransition

are you fucking stupid?

>>44011570
Yeah, but this kind of confirms my point, no? The trans belief is that if you feel like it, then you are it, right? You technically don't need to look like a woman to be a woman; you need to just act like one. You can do that while being a man. Nothing physically constrains you. But the community chooses to sexually objectify women; thus, the whole feminization happens. Again, I don't really care about objectifying people; it happens to everyone anyway.

>>44011612
It's not probably it's just a fact and only your baseline respect for other people tells you that billionaires deserve the benefit of the doubt. The respect is not mutual. They just don't see people outside of their class as equal in any way and everything they say to convince you otherwise is a lie.

>>44011725
even if i accept all of that it doesn't mean they are all guilty of every crime i could think of

>>44011646
To me being transsexual is something you do. You must in some way transition in an active sense to be trans

>>44011474
Looking at the pics in passgens here, uh yeah

>>44011439
>Indio
Is that an photo app filter?

>>44011746
whatever refusing to accept it doesnt change the facts

>>44011768
No

>>44011465
>you'd be a lot more worried about us masturbating in the men's
So now you want to segregate bathrooms by sexuality as well as birth sex?
Unfuckingbelieveable

>>44011757
lol. lmao.
this is either the worst demoralization attempt ive ever seen on this board (and that's an impressive accolade) or you're just stupid
i dont really care which and either way you'd say the same thing as an answer so i wont ask which
>>44011777
are the facts in the room with us?
>she's rich and i dont like her
is not proof of anything in specific

>>44011784
Oh, is that a small bespoke artisan wig company?

>>44011799
lmaol
yeah the real bathroom segregation should be
>faggots
>tops
which is funny but also kinda would solve the issue tbqh honestly

>>44011805
The ogres in the passgens here have either an actual wig or a Hair Flap. I'm not sure which is worse fr
No actually, the Hair Flap is waaaaaaaay worse. Peace to you and yours.

>>44011805
It's a fact of life. Most of you are pretty young so you haven't figured out how twisted those "rich" people really are.

>>44011756
Yeah, but again, the problem is that you want aesthetics, not the substance. If tomorrow I decide to be Christian, I should start reading the Bible, not just put on a cross when going outside. There are women out there that look like men, but nobody questions that they are women. They may be called ugly, but they are still women.

>>44011817
Heterosexual bathrooms
And
Homosexual bathrooms
I'm actually fine with that
How as a Transgenderism Woman would you feel about that?

>>44011824
omg hairflapanon!! how are you, are you making progress in therapy with your crippling obsession with pichu?
>>44011828
im middle-aged i just believe in innocent until proven guilty and due process

>>44011840
Oh you know about the Hair Flap meme from reddit! Good for you!

>>44011840
you are too funny if you think due process is possible to have for people who are above the process

>>44011839
im the straightest man alive so it wouldn't really benefit me from a gender identity standpoint but it would inarguably resolve any safety concerns
the best solution is obviously just single-person bathrooms everywhere but people love breeding too much for that to be economically feasible
>>44011849
you're on reddit, too?
... why? you're a weird guy, dude
>>44011853
if the process is broken we fix the process we dont commit a larger evil in the name of good that's nonsensical

>>44011874
It's people like rowling who are standing in the way of changing the process lmao and I wonder why they would deliberately place themselves in such a position? You need glasses to see these things clearly

The things I would have her do to bully my tiny penis

>>44011894
obstruction of justice is a different crime than human trafficking, anon

>>44011296
>>44011312
tl;dr lol

>>44011188
Cis women are enemy of anyone who isnt cis women

>>44011200
And they aint happy aboot it bestie

>>44011994
One enables the other! It's not that hard to understand!

>>44012031
im sure it does
that doesn't mean you can convict people of crimes without any evidence they've committed them
idk what you want here

>>44012061
>im sure it does
so you just dont care, I can tell from the way you hide behind legal procedure

>>44012072
sorry i believe in justice ig

>>44011312
Why do you shill Cass so hard? Are you Hilary Cass?

>>44012098
You don't believe in justice you believe in the existing legal system, two very different things!

>>44011188
Just don't ask her why she deleted her yacht travel logs the day the files, named after a jewish registered sex offender whom she had invited for dinner at her event for children, dropped.

>>44012122
how would your system differ from what exists today.

>>44012144
I don't have a system I'm just not going to pretend justice is being achieved by stanning for the rights of billionaires while they rape and murder people with impunity

>>44011188
The only way to live with cis women is to have them believe, without a shadow of a doubt, you're another cis woman.

>>44012177
>I don't have a system
there we go that's what i thought
i forget sometimes what time of year it is
you have to be 18 to use this site, anon

>>44012186
Congratulations you are just as repulsive as the people you defend. Did you ever consider a career in law?

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>>44012100
>reading the reppoon's wall of text

>>44011813
Do u have a wig obsession?

Are trannies the most mentally deranged people on the planet?

Believing women are women - which is Rowling’s sin here - doesn’t mean you hate trannies.

>>44012178
So you vouch for ignorance? You insist on others being ignorant about biology to make yourself happy?

>>44012439
thanks for the input chuddy! go back and tell your buds that you have owned us with FACTS and LOGIC!
im literally shaking crying liberal tears you invaded my safe space!

>>44012439
>t. most intellectually honest chud

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>>44011188
Yes, gender affirming therapy works exclusively thanks to mind blindness.

>>44011296
This is a good wake-up call to autistic bisexual males (see: AGP trannies) to understand niceness is not an indicator of internal human narratives or opinions.

If you expect abject hostility, especially from women, think again.

>>44012022
nta, but I've done the same.

>they ain't happy about it
you're right, they were cisf chasers, they were slugging the toilets over it.

>>44012448
>insist
I don't know what you mean by this word.

I present myself as a female and most people take that image to be who I am. I never talk about going beyond the image, coz if I did, I'd probably end up killing myself. I see as a survival of mechanism, nothing more, nothing less

true

>>44012504
What does niceness have to do with it when my cis friends will insist i use the womens room. I swear u guys just think everybody secretly hates their friends

>>44011200
I've shared restrooms with many cis women, but they don't know I'm transgender

>>44014025
I meant more ive had my friends pull me into the stall with them so we can talk while we piss not just the act of peeing in the womens bathroom

>>44014025
>>44014050
>these things have definitely happened

>>44015645
I mean they did. My friend would insist i dont use the mens room then we’d use the stall together

>>44014025
>I see into other people's brains and know what they are thinking.

you guys are arguing with someone whose mind is entirely closed. these "people" have no intention of listening to anything you say. no amaunt of logic or reason or evidence will make any difference because they dont even really care about the things they are saying

dont feed the trolls.

>>44015682
So now you have contradickted yourself there boss.
First you said they didn’t know you were trans
And now theyre like oh no dont use the mens silly
Im just guessing none of this transpired

>>44016107
I am this person>>44014050 and not this one>>44014025

>>44014050
I've never experienced that because I've always been the quiet shy girl who is least likely to open up with anyone

>>44015848
>trannies would ever accept they are delusional feminine men

>>44015689
Well actually yes I do!
I know straight women, particularly older women, in their 50s and 60s, when they use the bathroom, I go in with them. They do not think I'm a different gender

otherwise they'd freaked out and complain about it!

>>44011188
her jugs looked bigger in the thumbnail, I was dissapointed when opening the image like
>wow, nice tits Rowling
>nvm
:((

>>44016253
they just don't care if gay male crossdresser pee with them

>>44016253
>these two specific cis women reflect the thoughts of every other woman on the planet

>>44016373
Oh so we have a standard of evidence now?

>>44016373
trannies are delusional autistic faggots
you can't reason with them
they only hear what they want to
they don't listen hard
don't pay attention

>>44016248
im talking to the trannies, chudlet

>>44011874
>we fix the process

You are a literal slave. There is no we. These people inflict great misery on the most vulnerable