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TADC has really opened my eyes to how fucking little cis women or theyfabs actually understand the tranny experience. They're so fucking ignorant it's insane.

AFABs, Theyfabs, and even most Theymabs get everything in life handed to them, so they genuinely can't fathom the tranny experience. They're familiar with misogyny yeah, but they don't know how fucking painful/traumatic it is to be a trutrans tranny. So ofc they're going to side with AFAB gangle and simply call Jax an abuser.
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>>44011451
>how fucking little cis women or theyfabs actually understand the [anything] experience.
If you are just now realizing this then you are too young to use this website.
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true gangleheads would forgive jax for being rude. stupid ragatha ass hows
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>>44011451
Why do you think women can relate to the male experience, just like you can't relate to the female experience
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sorry i meant hoes
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>>44011501
Trans women who have transitioned can absolutely relate to the female experience, retard.
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>>44011492
It's not that I'm new to AFAB ignorance, i just genuinely didn't know how fucking ignorant they actually are when it comes to the mtf experience. I am constantly getting videos of people calling Jax a monster/abuser while treating all the other characters as angels who were all victims of the 'evil amab mtf Jax". and can you guess who's making these videos? Afabs and black cis men. Two groups of people who already hold a bias AGAINST trans women.

It's actually kinda heartbreaking idk. and it wouldn't be that big of a deal if it just stayed in fiction, but they think it's ok to dehumanize gooseworx because of the character she made. They genuinely don't see trans women as people and tadc has really opened my eyes to that
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>>44011501
>>44011494
kys, you're both part of the problem.
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>>44011533
sweetie i don't think it's healthy for you to group people into this "AFAB" category :<
there's supportive cis women too >>43995671
being born with internal reproductive organs doesn't make someone evil or hostile to you
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>>44011451
Notice how in this comment section, they instantly insult a trans woman for simply disagreeing with the initial comment of "the moral of the story is trauma is not an excuse", which is objectively NOT the moral of the story. Yet the evil AMAB trans women is in the wrong for simply disagreeing. trans voices Don't matter when it's a cis dominated space
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>>44011564
oops forgot the picture:
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>>44011564
>>44011573
more cissiods dogpiling a trans woman
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>>44011586
expecting people to be nice in a youtube comments' section is kind of a skill issue on her part
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>>44011561
>being born with internal reproductive organs doesn't make someone evil or hostile to you
ofc not. I don't think all afabs are horrible people who hate trannies. I just think a lot of them lack understanding of how much trans women have to go through. Xitter AFABs and performative liberal AFABs are genuinely evil though, and they're the ones making these anti Jax videos. calling anyone who can relate to Jax and "abuser".
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>>44011533
>Afabs and black cis men
The word for this category is ignoramus. They are too stupid to separate fiction from real life. And they also have an innate craving to blame someone else for their problems. To them, Jax is the patriarchy/whites.
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>>44011586
it’s funny cause the jax haters act more like jax than any of the other characters
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>>44011505
its okay it happens
i love you
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>>44011523
never heard a tranny complain about her period
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>>44011451
normies just can't self reflect

so all their takes are worthless
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>>44011617
Of course they lack understanding! Nobody is born with knowledge! You should judge them for their willingness to learn or for their stubbornness in their own preconceived notions, though.
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>>44011494
Omg pooner win
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>>44011662
I have.
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>>44011622
exactly, and I didn't even mention black afabs yet. So many black AFABs are extremely fucking toxic when it comes to this show. not only will they tear apart every little fucking detail about this show, they're the ones calling the creators and VAs for this show "racists white supremacists", and harassing them for jokes they made YEEARS ago. As a half black trans woman, it's embarrassing to see black people be performative liberal cry bullies.

>>44011623
exactly. They're extremely toxic, meanwhile Jax lovers are the kindest fucking people you'll ever talk to. it's so odd
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>>44011573
>taking yt comments seriously
everyone who uses that is an unironic troglodyte
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>>44011682
and they produce egg cells too now?
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>>44011494
>wholly unaccessible to women
False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norah_Vincent
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>>44011683
tbf in universe jax hates himself while all the nice characters (except the canonically twofaced ragatha) sympathize with him so it makes sense
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>>44011698
so womanhood according to you boils down to periods and your fertility status? interesting.
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>>44011698
> producing egg cells is an integral part of the female experience
> t. retard
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>>44011711
and you boil it down to wearing dresses and masturbating in female only spaces you shouldn't be in
Curious
>>44011719
Sorry you skipped biology class, but the info is out there, just read
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>>44011729
>and you boil it down to wearing dresses and masturbating in female only spaces you shouldn't be in
And there it is LMAO. I fucking knew u hated trannies. leave my thread pls.
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>>44011683
>calling the creators and VAs for this show "racists white supremacists"
Funny. I was just searching "isn't she lovely tadc" and was accosted by an article about how it's not okay for them to use a song written by a black man.
>it's embarrassing to see black people be performative liberal cry bullies.
Welcome to earth.

You seem cool. I would watch this show with you and listen to your commentary.
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>>44011751
lots of black people love segregation for some reason
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>>44011743
"Transphobes" are obsessed? You are crying about your human rights being violated because you can't get into female only spaces while having a dick. You are the obsessed freak
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>>44011751
>Funny. I was just searching "isn't she lovely tadc" and was accosted by an article about how it's not okay for them to use a song written by a black man.
I fucking hate liberals so much it's unreal. I say this as a left leaning person too. All they do is cry victim, while also simultaneously being massive abusers themselves. They're performative hypocrites.

>You seem cool. I would watch this show with you and listen to your commentary.

Ty ^_^
I might make a digital circus video soon but idk.
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>>44011776
kys, Im Done reading you comments. you have shown to me that you're someone who isn't worth listening to at all lol
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>>44011776
> female only spaces
weak bait
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>>44011523
Wrong. Trans women have more in common with men than women
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Low reading comprehension
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>>44011451
Reminder that this is the type of slop content black cis men produce. they'll bash trans people who are actually creative and make things, calling them racist bigots but then make stupid retard shit like this lmao. It's honestly really funny
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>>44011797
you have no arguments and if someone shows you how retarded you are, you run away >>44011837 and you're a racist piece of white trash aswell, who would've thought
>>44011800
You're right, should've just said women's spaces
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>>44011561
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>>44011851
white AFAB calling me, a half black trans woman, racist is really fucking funny to me lol
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wait isn't jax filipino? that's like mostly black
i think the va was white tho
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>>44011851
> arguments
nooo you don't understand you have to defend your right to exist whenever i demand it noooo dance for me tranny!!
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>>44011878
except the majority of young cis women are supportive of us, not a tiny minority
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>>44011451
Jax IS an abuser. She's a cautionary tale on how being abused, having no healthy way to process the abuse, and the toxic shame this results in will lead to the cycle of abuse continuing. You can have sympathy for an abuser's circumstances without falling into the trap of excusing their actions. Jax is a deeply hurt person who experienced and continues to experience immense suffering. She's also an abusive bully. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>44011451
>doesn't see the irony is going "grrr afabs" as if Jax wasn't doing that consistently in the circus
Can't make this shit up
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>>44011926
You have the same rights as everyone else, you just want more
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>>44011960
Bugs Bunny IS an abuser. He’s a cautionary tale on how being abused, having no healthy way to process the abuse, and the toxic shame this results in will lead to the cycle of abuse continuing. You can have sympathy for an abuser's circumstances without falling into the trap of excusing their actions. Bugs Bunny is a deeply hurt person who experienced and continues to experience immense suffering. He’s also an abusive bully. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>44011960
Yeah, but the difference is you actually understand the nuance of her character. Most of these videos will just bash her for being an "evil abuser" without actually understanding why she is the way she is. I'm not excusing her behavior, but treating the other characters as perfect angels while Jax is the only one getting shit is kinda annoying.
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>>44012059
>without actually understanding why she is the way she is
Nta they understand, it's just not a good excuse
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>>44012230
I literally just said they DO understand, to an extent
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>>44011719
im on that xenomorph queen existence type shit
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>>44011700
Norah Vincent TASTED it
Pooners TASTE it

They haven't had the same thing for their whole damn lives, informing their behavior
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>>44011961
i could be stupid but like there was only one time i can recall, in the very last episode, when Jax complained about women because they are women. his torment of the female characters was just incidental to the fact that, like, nearly all his company is female
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>>44011937
What do you mean by, "supportive"?
Does that mean using she/her on you?
Saying in public that transgorls are heckin valid?

Are you really trusting the words of a woman over her actual actions?
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>>44012040
Bugs is horrible, who the fuck relates to bugs xD
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>>44011494
Bold of 0HP to assume pooners can understand the male lived experience
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>>44011451
Jax is the most relatable trans character in fiction desu
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>>44012414
kek
>fellow doods, this is the GRIMMEST shit possible!!
>honey, it's been 3 months
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>>44011451
oh also, I forgot to mention but I think YouTubers are the most pretentious people on earth lmao
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>>44011451
No, Jax literally is just an unlikeable, horrid abusive little shit. "I have trauma so I get to be a massive cunt to everyone for life and nobody can say anything!". Nah nigga, chat shit get hit. There's a reason nobody likes you faggots. Not only that, but Jax is not feminine in the least, his mannerisms are that of a corny autistic nerd, fully and completely male. So I'm sure you relate to that too. Funny thing that only trannies can't seem to understand how rancid this character is, the rest of us hate HIM.
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>>44012040
Loony Tunes doesn't pretend to be a le deep and serious reflection of the human condition you tone deaf faggot.
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>>44012040
bugs bunny was also an agp crossdresser lol
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>>44012059
Literally none of the other characters come close to doing anything as bad as Jax does, nor are they consistently fucking awful like Jax is.
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>>44012389
In a group of 4 fem 2 msc, tormenting the women specifically would be a conscious choice made by the creator. Who characters target says a lot about them.
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>>44012445
>Jax literally is just an unlikeable, horrid abusive little shit.

There's so much projection coming from your entire reply it's INSANE. Judging by the way you type, you're the exact thing you're bitching about. especially with this comment:

>There's a reason nobody likes you faggots.

which reveals SO much about your character. Like another anon said earlier, you people are exactly how you think Jax is, an abusive mean cunt. It really goes to show that Jax haters are shallow as fuck

>>44012473
I would argue caine put them through more shit than Jax did. and they forgave him so fast lmao
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>>44012468
im not joking, this was the case in several episodes yk
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>>44011937
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>>44012499
Maybe if everyone thinks you are an unlikeable shit who should kys, it's because you're an unlikeable shit who should kys
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>>44012523
you Jax haters love proving my point lol. I don't even have to give any arguments, but do cause why not. cissiods are funny
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>>44012458
it’s a cartoon big guy
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>>44012490
...why? one of the two masc characters IS Jax. that leaves only Kinger, who is never around, for Jax to torment instead of the "fems". whom else is he gonna do it to?
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Jax will never be a woman, just like goose works. nothing but autistic violent males
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>>44012705
ok AFAB cissiod, whatever you say.
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>>44012715
thank you for affirming my gender
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>>44012715
you should always assume transphobes are larping men, not assume they're women
they're trying to bait you into being misogynistic so they can turn around and go "see?? these violent males hate women!"
just call them the moids they are
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>>44012756
true, I should stop assuming these people are AFAB
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>>44012756
>transphobes
that would be you, you misogynistic little incel man. let me guess, you went down the chud to tranny pipeline?
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>>44012790
get better bait
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>>44011494
>CIS tag
sybau
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>"I am not a violent autistic male!!" he pounds his keyboard furiously
>"FUCKING AFABS!! I HATE ALL YOU CUNTS!!!"
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so many bait replies in my thread lol
jax haters are pathetic
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>>44011451
i didnt even watch the show but jax haters are making me want to pinkpill her so bad :(. whats crazy to me is that theyre willing to start lynching goose cuz the story didnt go how THEY wanted and at the same time trying to rewrite it to suit their own biases

>>44012523
>base your identity off what others arbitrarily think of u and off yourself if you fail to assimilate
literally how bullies work
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>>44012059
if you were a character in the show how would you have handled jax differently? because it seems like none of the characters particularly care if he wears a dress or not.
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>>44012508
im pretty sure jax is literally based on bugs
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>>44012922
and they go out of their way to interact with jax and he's like nooooooo I just le like causing trouble for fun

irl homeless trannies don't have people that talk to them like that. if he were actually ostracized it's be understandable but jax is just an asshole.
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>>44012867
the thread was ripe for chud infestation from the start, which is kinda your fault lol.
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>>44012922
but Jax cares. she was immensely insecure and scared, and hated herself for this insecurity and fear and its roots. no amount of passive (or active) support from her friends could have helped her, because the problem was her all along. that's the point. even in her own mind she wears the maid outfit ironically because SHE hates that she wants to.
>>44012950
pretty much see above. it is understandable either way because Jax is her own tormentor. she is an asshole undisputably but her character is not The Asshole Who Hates Her Friends; her character is The Asshole Who Does Not Know How to Cope Any Other Way. the scene in which she is ultimately consumed helps to demonstate this. she cares a lot that Pomni (et al) cares about her, and it hurts her.
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>>44012679
Caine and the clown, too.
Let's just say if I'm a guy (at the moment) in a group of 4 girls and 2 other guys, I'm not gonna harass the women. I'll just wait until the doods come around. A general rule irl is, if they don't act this way to EVERYONE, it is a concentrated effort.
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>>44013087
>no amount of passive (or active) support from her friends could have helped her,
what's the point of a show with characters that all have trauma if they don't overcome their trauma and can't help each other? it's just pointless depressionslop
>because the problem was her all along
but jax ended up the way he did because he was in a toxic environment so once he was taken out of that environment he should've started to change but he remains the same throughout the whole show.
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>>44011501
I can only relate to female experiences. I only had one parent my mother and she bonded with me totally
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>>44011523
The only males I have ever known, 'close up' have been on this board
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>>44013323
jax wouldn't be so tragic if she didn't also have a hand in her own fate, that's the thing
the main issue is that these people want (or claim to want anyway) "unproblematic" trans rep. that is characters who don't sabotage themselves, or do shitty things, or make bad choices. it's like that thing in doctor who where they decided davros can walk again now because we couldn't POSSIBLY have a disabled villain
trans characters should be allowed to suck. and they can also be tortured. they can be both. it should be allowed
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>>44013062
that wasn't what I was trying to do. I've just been extremely annoyed with theyfabs and afabs online recently
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>>44013401
understandable, still them being theyfabs and afabs is not the root cause of the issue lmao
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>>44013401
Unrelated question but what is your pride flag called? I’ve never seen it before
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>>44013457
the flags have mouseover text
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>>44011451
>the tranny experience is being an insufferable asshole and expecting to get a way with it because you're a sissy
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>>44011533
>i just genuinely didn't know how fucking ignorant they actually are when it comes to the mtf experience. I am constantly getting videos of people calling Jax a monster/abuser while treating all the other characters as angels who were all victims of the 'evil amab mtf Jax
that's just the craycrays on the internet, feemale edition (especially the "omg the amab is the evil one YES we're the oppressed victims again" motif)
same way the moid edition is delusional blackpill incels
in ze real world people tend to be more nuanced and mature, especially when it's about an acquaintance or a friend
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>>44013584
Watch them all the lames who relate to Jax come in to play victim or claim you don't get it
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>>44013690
I agree, people irl tend to be more chill about things and aren't so quick to insult your character over a cartoon. Theyfabs especially on xitter are really big narcissist imo, and all that confidence comes from the attention they get from other theyfabs/afabs reinforcing their shitty opinions. The Internet honestly shouldn't be taken seriously, these people are clowns at the end of the day.
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>>44013237
she was a dick to Kaufmo too once Ribbit died and what was she supposed to do to Caine lol he controls the place. Jax may be a misogynist but her actions throughout the show re: "abusing women" are not reflective of misogyny so much as her simply being an asshole.
>>44013323
>pointless depressionslop
on the contrary i felt very seen and was profoundly touched by the story. i am nothing like Jax but i identify strongly with her plight. i felt every feeling with her because they were and are my real-life feelings. media can be sad and this is good. is The Tragedy of Romeo and Juliet pointless depressionslop?
>once he was taken out of that environment he should've started to change
she did, though. she had a really strong relationship with both Kaufmo and Ribbit prior to the conversation in Ribbits room, when she freaked out and closed herself off. she avoided Ribbit and eventually grew to detest herself for the unresolved feelings this exacerbated, and then continued to make a series of terrible decisions that led to her total psychic deterioration. she wasn't always like that.
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>>44011617
>lack understanding of how much trans women have to go through
Mind you, that TADC character put themselves through all that mess while having supportive people around
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>>44013779
bingo. gj maple, that's a healthy lens to see internet engagementmaxxing content through
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>>44013799
>dick to the clown AFTER ribbit dies
>confirmed does nothing to Caine
>does nothing to Kinger, even at the beginning of the movie
>yet harassing the women is not a reflection of Jax's character
anon...
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>>44013861
did you read my post
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>>44011851
Everyone knows your arguments are performative attempts to validate your hatred. That is why you are losing despite hundreds of millions of dollars of israeli/christian NGO propaganda
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>>44011451
tru
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>>44013864
Yes Ms bird
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>>44014195
i will rephrase, then..
she was perfectly amiable until the conversation in Ribbit's room, after which she began to ignore and treat poorly Ribbit specifically, because she was uncomfortable and did not want to deal with her feelings like an adult. after Ribbit died she broke completely and began lashing out at other characters, including Kaufmo. it is not as though Caine or Kinger are free from her ire, either; she does torment Caine psychologically. she does deride Kinger. it is simply that both characters are more or less out of her reach (physically, and in Kinger's case also psychologically), so she cannot eg push them into an active volcano or throw them into a deep-fryer or fuck with them about killing her with a gun (this last case also irrelevant to Caine, who would do so thoughtlessly).
the rest of her targets are simply There. they are the people who interact with her most, and who repeatedly make verbal sorties into her mind (whether accidentally or intentionally), which she feels the need to defend against by being A Huge Asshole.
she may well be a misogynist (re: her comment to Pomni about women "knowing their place" or whatever it was she said in the parlor of her mind) but honestly i am pretty sure this is a defense mechanism itself, as it distances her from womanhood, which is something she both desires and denies herself for fear and self-loathing. and the cycle repeats. but it does not seem logical or reasonable or contextually supportable to argue that her mistreatment of the people around her beyond this single instance was a manifestation of misogyny any more so than simple douchery. those people around her just happened to be mostly women.
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>>44011451
>AFABs, Theyfabs, and even most Theymabs get everything in life handed to them, so they genuinely can't fathom the tranny experience. They're familiar with misogyny yeah, but they don't know how fucking painful/traumatic it is to be a trutrans tranny. So ofc they're going to side with AFAB gangle and simply call Jax an abuser.
As a Theymab Chud, which is the other side of the tranny coin if you take the dark path, it's because they hate men. They're misandrist. Jax makes perfect sense if you understand what misandry is and have lived as a subpar male.

It's only a matter of time before the afabs catch on to the trans women and find a way to lock it down so they don't have to accidentally humanize incels. As for other males, it's often even worse. Crab in a bucket mentality. The amabs who succeed and get scraps in any way will say and believe whatever possible to hold onto it, hence why trans women are often extremely misandrist and hateful. They do NOT want to go back.
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>>44014531
> catch on to the trans women
There's nothing to "catch on" to. We're not like you, we have no solidarity or affinity with you just because a doctor assigned us the same thing as you.
> other males
> "other" males
Of course the misogynist is a transphobe.

Your entire world view is taken right out of a 2015 anti-feminist video. That is not how reality works at all. Women (unfortunately for both women and gender non-conforming men) do not run the world.

The real reason we hate men (not all men, but definitely the ones who think like you) is because of the way they treat us and other women. It really is that simple. Men hate women because we won't give them sex and reduce ourselves to sex machines, women hate men because of how they treat us when we don't want to give them sex or reduce ourselves to whores.
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>>44014846
Afabs like you don't view trannies as women, I wish you would just say that instead of pretending to be progressive. Majority of you are performative. I can understand why you hate men, but pretending like you accept trans women as women is kinda annoying, cause we all know you don't.
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>>44011451
You think jax wasn't an abusive asshole? That's what you took from the quarter of a second when trans was a possible description of his character? That everything he did was justifiable?
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>>44014899
please read the thread and my replies. I'm not going to explain this again, I'm tired.
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I think Jax is pretty good girl bully representation. Literally made someone think they were friends then ignored her to death. Very fem brained.
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i feel like i did not even watch the same series as half of the posters itt what is going on what has happened to media literacy
i don't even like film all that much!!
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>>44015115
Who are you referring to? Jax lovers or haters?
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>>44014877
I'm a trans woman... did you misunderstand "we're not like you" as "we cis women are not like you trans women"? What I was actually saying is that we trans women are nothing like men and theymabs.
There are absolutely performative allies but I think you shouldn't immediately assume bad faith from allies. Give them the benefit of the presumption of innocence until you see evidence otherwise. :(
Most young women have been nothing but nice to me, and most of my close friends are cis women, they're incredibly supportive and they're the reason I'm not underground right now.
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>>44015129
haters </3
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>>44014846
>There's nothing to "catch on" to. We're not like you, we have no solidarity or affinity with you just because a doctor assigned us the same thing as you.
This is cope. Gender is a social construct. You had the same upbringing. You experience the same kind hatred. You hate chuds, because they remind you of yourself. And for chuds, vice versa.
>Of course the misogynist is a transphobe.
I don't follow? Picrel is the kind of "other male" I was talking about.
>Your entire world view is taken right out of a 2015 anti-feminist video.
It's a cultivation of it. I'm far more blackpilled, far less redpilled
>is not how reality works at all. Women (unfortunately for both women and gender non-conforming men) do not run the world.
What do you mean by that? Just because a couple vampires with infinite money decide everything that happens doesn't suddenly mean men as a class rule the world. Women have larger social webs, get education more often, get calls back for jobs more often, and have far more moral authority.
>The real reason we hate men (not all men, but definitely the ones who think like you) is because of the way they treat us and other women. It really is that simple.
Funny, that's exactly why we hate women(I don't personally. There's no point, and you're individuals.)
>Men hate women because we won't give them sex and reduce ourselves to sex machines, women hate men because of how they treat us when we don't want to give them sex or reduce ourselves to whores.
That's such a warped view of reality. Women won't give men sex, because men are subhuman in their eyes. Men can't get pregnant, so they have to live their entire lives making up for it. Women see man's value sexually as less than nothing, to the point where a 14 year old is "lucky" if he gets raped by his woman math teacher, and we, as men, have grown into that way of viewing ourselves. Women hate men, because we're poor sexually speaking. And your excuse is always "oh, they just want our money"
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>>44015277
>Gender is a social construct.
Gender is, gender identity is innate in our brains and we have the same as cis women. Typical "gender means nothing therefore transphobia is ok" retardation. Ew.
> You experience the same kind hatred.
We experience a unique kind of hatred.
> You hate chuds, because they remind you of yourself.
I hate chuds because they're actively attacking our rights and those of the people I care about.
> I don't follow? Picrel is the kind of "other male" I was talking about.
I see it now. I thought trans women were the "males" that "other" was in reference to, but you meant incels. Either way you just validated my accusation of transphobia by basically going "durrr gender means nothing and you were brought up the same as us therefore you're 100% identical to us".
> What do you mean by that? Just because a couple vampires with infinite money decide everything that happens doesn't suddenly mean men as a class rule the world.
Absolutely valid. Patriarchy doesn't benefit all men, only some men, so even just being a man shouldn't in and of itself make someone support the patriarchy. However, men as a class benefit from the exploitation of women as a class. From the expectation that she'll be the one doing the housework, she'll be the one raising the children, etc. Thankfully, as time passes, that seems to be going away.
> Women have larger social webs, get education more often
... and whose fault is that?
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>>44011451
Jax is objectively an abuser and isnt a victim lmfao.
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>>44015277
> Men can't get pregnant, so they have to live their entire lives making up for it.
Sounds like you're just jealous of female anatomy. No cis man, not one single cis man in the whole wide world, thinks like this. Only a trans woman or maybe a non-binary person could have these thoughts.
You're not jealous because women have it better, because women don't! You're jealous because the gender role of a woman more closely aligns with what you wanted than the one that was imposed on you.
> a 14 year old is "lucky" if he gets raped by his woman math teacher
This is a problem, yes. It's disgusting, yes. It's also a problem created and perpetuated by men. Men are the ones calling boy victims "lucky" and diminishing what they went through, not women.

This is a kind of jealousy that I seriously can't imagine coming from any place out of "I was supposed to be a woman and I am missing out on it while they get to live it". You don't have to miss out on it. You can transition, you can have cis girl friends, but you seriously have to quit this misogynistic club if you wanna fit in.
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>>44015445
she is a victim though
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>>44015546
A victim of the consequences of her own actions?
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>>44015445
You can be both.

Basically every single tranny who wasn't afforded the opportunity to transition young is a victim.
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>>44011586
Goose should be allowed to hunt down TADC fans for sport
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>>44012436
Let me guess
Wanted every character to have a multiple episodes long focus story arc
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>>44015575
>every single tranny who wasn't afforded the opportunity to transition young is a victim.
Jax did have the oppurtunity by just being in the circus. she doesnt have to worry about male aging or about passing because she has an androgynous digital avatar just like everyone else. She couldve transitioned whenever she wanted too and it would make no difference.
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>>44015597
probably. I don't even bother clicking on these narcissists videos anymore. they're so fucking pretentious and think they know everything. I don't take online "critical" seriously anymore, they lost that respect a LONG time ago.

>>44015588
I agree.
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>>44015410
>you were brought up the same

Why would anyone assume this, it's so stupid?
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>>44015638
critics* not "critical".
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>>44015673
It's always circular: "trans women are men therefore this thing that applies to men applies to trans women therefore trans women are men"
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>>44015740
Congratulations! You cracked the code.
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>>44015690
Oscars are no different. The amount of mediocre cliche slop keeps getting nominations and awards. Critics are not to be taken seriously. And this is not a new thing.
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>>44015617
>somehow thinks being trapped in a digital hellscape means you're not victimized during your entire time growing up
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>>44011960
I still find it funny that Goosestepx oh so progressive show has everyone arguing over troons and not the fact there is no depictions or representation for fat or ugly people
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>>44011451
>AFABs
nigga if you wanna call pooners women just do that, half of the board already does
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>>44015460
There's a staggering amount of women who lust for young boys since sexuality usually shows itself around puberty and they're trying to recapture the feeling of their first crush. Most just don't act upon by actually having sex with adolescents
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>>44017284
REAL trutrans trans men (not trenders) aren't the ones complaining. It's specifically fem presenting afabs who are being extremely dismissive of trans women's experiences. Specifically Faketrans ftms xitterfags, Theyfabs, and cis women who are supposedly queer.

I see trans men who actually experience dysphoria as men.
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>>44015410
>Gender is, gender identity is innate in our brains and we have the same as cis women. Typical "gender means nothing therefore transphobia is ok" retardation. Ew.
That's not what I'm saying. Gender identity the result of the social construct of gender. It's not innate. It's put onto people. Regardless, my point is that people are misandrist to trans women.
>We experience a unique kind of hatred.
The unique kind of hatred in question:
>"Fuck you, rapist! You just want to be a woman so you can creep on women!"
>"You're just a tranny so you can fuck my children!
>"faggot!"
>I hate chuds because they're actively attacking our rights and those of the people I care about
Ah yes, the women. So, you're one of the crabs in a bucket, then. You're an amab who's been given protection, so you're willing to step on all other amabs if it means you get a higher position.

>Either way you just validated my accusation of transphobia by basically going "durrr gender means nothing and you were brought up the same as us therefore you're 100% identical to us".
Uh, no. Gender does not mean nothing. Gender is like race. It's arbitrary where we draw the lines, but it still means stuff. Stop strawmanning me. I'm not sating you're identical to me. I'm saying your experience was. People are misandrist to you and were.
>Patriarchy doesn't benefit all men,
It doesn't even benefit most men. Hypergamy, remember?
>However, men as a class benefit from the exploitation of women as a class
No. Women as a class benefit from men as a class.

>From the expectation that she'll be the one doing the housework, she'll be the one raising the children, etc.
Who has the expectation to pay for that house and the kids and her? Who's a failure for wanting to be an ends as a person rather than just a foiyum infinite money glitch tool that doesn't even work because jobs are feminized and only looking for women?
>Thankfully, as time passes, that seems to be going away.
For women, but not for men.
1/2
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>>44015277
https://youtube.com/shorts/4YCCQe21kVs
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>>44015460
>Sounds like you're just jealous of female anatomy.
YES! Have you even been reading my posts?
>No cis man, not one single cis man in the whole wide world, thinks like this.
What are you asking for here, a dickpick?
>Only a trans woman or maybe a non-binary person could have these thoughts.
Yeah, I saw past the illusion.
>You're not jealous because women have it better, because women don't!
They do, though! I can't tell you how many times in my life I've thought "man, if I were just a fucking woman, then people wouldn't think I'm a rapist abd would actually want to be around me. I could actually not constantly have to worry about if I'll even get a shot at having a family."
>You're jealous because the gender role of a woman more closely aligns with what you wanted than the one that was imposed on you.
No, objectively speaking, women get treated better in 2026 and it's unfair. That's my position.
>This is a problem, yes. It's disgusting, yes. It's also a problem created and perpetuated by men.
>This is a problem, yes. It's disgusting, yes. It's also a problem created by and perpetuated by blacks/homeless people/Jews
That's how you sound to me. When all else fails, the feminazi goes back to her roots. Men are suffering because of men. But when anyone else suffers, it's not because of themselves, it's because of men.
>the ones calling boy victims "lucky" and diminishing what they went through, not women.
What about the woman who did it, though? It's a victimless crime in her mind. What about the women who say misandrist shit all the time and call men rapists? Yeah, internalized misandry is bad, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend misandry doesn't exist.
>You don't have to miss out on it. You can transition, you can have cis girl friends, but you seriously have to quit this misogynistic club if you wanna fit in.
I've thought about it, but my gender is male. Surely, you understand, since you transitioned and think being a woman is worse off.
2/2
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>>44017481
Ah, yes. Women are the fish. Men are the fishermen. Women are the table. Men need to bring to the table. Women are the ends. Men are the means.
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>>44015673
>Why would anyone assume this, it's so stupid?
Maybe because that's not what I was assuming? You got the same treatment. You should be aware of the treatment and its abuses.
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>>44015740
>It's always circular: "trans women are men therefore this thing that applies to men applies to trans women therefore trans women are men"
Again, not what I was saying, but this is geuninely what transphobes think. So their treatment of you is going to be that way. Hence why "trans-mysogyny" is basically just the same treatment as "misandry." They hate you because they think you're a man.
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>>44017666
They say trans women are men but they don't actually treat trans women like men.
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>>44011451
op, i know and i understand you, but be real they're just a yapping bunch of nothing. like yeah cis women are evil, you'll never be liked by all cis women. i know girls who were bullied and hated by other girls, you don't need to be a man in a dress to be shitted and excluded from something, something not even special. there are people who accept you, there are women who accept you. the women you're talking about don't affect your life. and i'm sorry if you had conflict with similar people irl, but find your people and tell your story instead of shitting others

like really if you're concerned about this shit you live privileged life or you're dissociating so hard to not see your real problems.
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>>44011451
I want to thank tadc for making this year feel like 2014 again. I genuinely feel happy that I'm in a new fandom of a show I actually really enjoy. It feels like undertale all over again except this time, I finally get to engage with the community more. Words cannot describe how Happy I am tadc exists. I want to make so much more art and stuff for the community. I felt a similar way about being in the MLP fandom in 2020. I never thought I would get to experience that passion for a piece of media again. Thank you gooseworx.
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>>44017383
>Gender identity the result of the social construct of gender.
No it's not
>It's not innate.
Yes it is
>It's put onto people.
Ok, how did that work out for John Money?
> my point is that people are misandrist to trans women.
I can see why you'd think this, but not really, no.
>You're an amab
I saw this and this is when I decided to stop engaging with the rest of your post or taking you seriously. I do not identify with you, I'm not a part of the same club as you, I have no sisterhood with you, I owe you and men no loyalty whatsoever. We are not part of the same class just because we were born with similar genitals. This is not a meaningful category. My loyalty is to women, as I am one. Men treat closeted trans women like shit for not adequately performing toxic masculinity under patriarchy. Whether your experience as a "theymab" is similar to ours in this regard, maybe, but it is absolutely not the same as cis men's. Other women embrace us. Not all of them, of course, transphobic women exist too, but those who supported and uplifted me were women. It was young women who reassured me that I was a woman, who helped me grow emotionally and as a person, who helped me make it through the tough times alive. Yet, in your deranged mind, I should see them as class enemies and your misogynistic self as an ally just because we had similar genitals at some point in our lives. It's deranged.
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>>44017731
Yeah? And? They say men under 5 foot 8 are men when convenient, but don't actually treat them like men, either. They think you're just another fag. How well you're treated after that completely depends on how well you pass as a woman, not how well you pass as a man. If you insist on continuing to be a man, then there's a ceiling to how well you're treated and if you go down that path as I did. People are going to think you're gay for no reason if you improve your situation beyond just brushing your teeth and cleaning your room. People treat me better when I grow out my hair a little. They treat me better when I shave. I got some muscle, and I've had guys hit on me. So, I know that it's not that I look awful. Giga youngshit passoids or whatever you guys call them actually can be treated like a woman until her secret is revealed, but that's not who I am. I don't want to have to be a woman or be gay just to be treated than an NPC someday.

I want to have a girlfriend and take care of her and be a father. I'm just not sure how to make that happen in this day and age. I have my parents to help me and I'm STILL struggling. But not everyone has supportive parents, especially not men usually. It's brutle out there. I completely understand where the resentment from men comes from.
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I hate losing track of my own threads lmao. I don't feel like reading these long walls of text
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>>44018233
At least read the one I addressed specifically to you >>44015158
The rest of the thread is just worthless 2015 anti-feminist cope and rebuttals of it.
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>>44018268
most "allies" aren't allies though. the sad reality is most cis people hate us, and the ones that say they don't are lying. they either talk poorly about us behind closed doors or just don't think we're worthy of life but don't want to come off as cruel. You can't trust cis people, that includes cis women
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>>44018305
>>44017779
read this
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>>44018001
>>It's not innate.
>Yes it is
Wait, so you're a biological essentialist when convenient now? How do you figure gender identity is innate when there were times in history when men wore dresses and high heels and did all this "girly" shit. How can you say that gender identity is innate, when gender itself changes meaning like how words change meaning. You're not making sense.
>I saw this and this is when I decided to stop engaging with the rest of your post
Cool. Ad hominum is nice.
>I do not identify with you, I'm not a part of the same club as you, I have no sisterhood with you, I owe you and men no loyalty whatsoever.
Yeah, I get it. You're a part of the no boys allowed club now. You transcended the lower class society put you in and don't want anything to do with the plebian scrotes beneath you.
>We are not part of the same class just because we were born with similar genitals.
Yup. That's what this is about. I get it. You're a crab.
>My loyalty is to women, as I am one.
Tribalism slop. I like it. Is your loyalty to whites as you are white?
>Men treat closeted trans women like shit for not adequately performing toxic masculinity under patriarchy
What patriarchy? And toxic masculinity is just internalized misandry. The men's rights activists were THIS CLOSE to actually using feminism for something good. But can't have that. Those reasources aren't for the foiyum. Men should only get the foidslop.
>but it is absolutely not the same as cis men's
The treatment is the same, which was my point.
>uplifted me were women
Because women have larger social webs and not all women are bad.
>I should see them as class enemies
No. You are a foid. You should just be nice to those of lower classes.
>an ally just because we had similar genitals at some point in our lives
You're clearly not all allies. Some trans women agree with me. You're just not one of them.
>It's deranged.
You don't have to stop being high class. Relax. I'm not stealing your boobs from you.
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>>44018305
That hasn't been my experience at all, I've been given so much kindness by young cis women, including complete strangers. I'm sorry that you've been hurt but really, they aren't all like that :(
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>>44011523
You will never know what it feels to suffer menstrual symptoms for a week every month without fail. You will never know how it feels to be ignored and not taken seriously on the basis of your sex. You will never know what it's like to receive unwanted sexualized advances and have to watch your back 24/7. You will never experience half the trauma a female experiences inherently. Anything you do experience is you putting yourself deliberately in harms way as a crude mocking approximation as an excuse to steal womanhood
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>>44011451
I thought getting online attention would help me feel less lonely but it doesn't. no matter how many likes, replies or just general attention I get, I still feel so fucking lonely. I'm crying over a lack of friends that's so fucking retarded and cringe
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>>44018358
Literally the only one of those that trans women don't experience is the first one. You are detached from reality. You're a retard and a liar. You'd say anything if you thought it would hurt trans women.
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>>44018397
That's sad, nona :<
Have you tried meeting people on frengen? There's a ton of people also looking for new friends
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>>44018426
yes, but I want to try again cause if I'm friendless for another fucking month I might just rope. I can't find it in the catalog,is it a weekly thing like passgen?
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>>44018358
>You will never know what it's like to receive unwanted sexualized advances and have to watch your back 24/7.
Literally suffered this as a gay boy.
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>>44011451
I should stfu sometimes and not post about being sad in a thread complaining about xitter they fans. I'm a fucking idiot
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>>44011523
Delusion
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>>44018507
It's ok nona :<
>>44018467
I feel bad for you and I wanna help you, nona :(
I don't really know how frengen works, maybe you can even create its next iteration yourself.
I could be your friend but I'd like you to work on your hatred of cis women :((
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>>44011533
Okay here's the thing, first, most cis women in my experience are really nice about trans people despite all of this, I just wanna make that clear at first because it's a shitty male-brained pattern to blame cis women for everything, or anyone afab.

That said, yeah if thry knew the dark truth that most trans women have a Jax phase, they'd be horrified. The way the afabs think of trans women is only seeing the end result and saying that trans women are women™ but not acknowledging the ugliness of being born AMAB, seeing it often as transphobic or a confirmation of fears of people have of trans women being men in dresses that want to rape and abuse and be misogynistic. The truth is, we are raised as men. We are raised to go to war, to rape, to say we want to fuck your mom, to talk about our penises, to abuse and hate on women, to be a fascist and advocate for the extermination of non whites (white person problem specifically here), and just in general be an asshole. Other men threatened us constantly for going against that, calling us "gay" or "faggy" or "sissy" or a girl, and we developed all these habits while also having the biological urge to be a woman. Both aspects conflict and we deny and deny to fit in or do horrible things to fit in or deal with the pain or whatever. That's hoe you get a Jax. It doesn't justify horrible actions, but it explains them, and it's a horrifying concept to realize that trans women are raised the same way initially as cis men are, with all the evil abusive baggage and often taking out all that pain on others. It's a failure of feminism to not face this ugliness and how it affects amabs in society, whether it was understandably because MRAs backstabbed feminists in the 80s or because of the leftist mentality of oppressor vs oppressed ignores the complicated nature of things like the Patriarchy where everyone are all victims of the system to serve the most powerful rapey men. This doesn't justify us being shit btw.
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>>44018642
>most trans women have a Jax phase
I didn't.
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>>44013805
this, Jax isn't still exactly a redeemable character despite being fucking relatable in my past, Jax represents the common worst case scenario for a trans woman where she never lets go of her amab past and is a toxic misogynistic bitch and thus never recovers out of fear. She is the worst case scenario outside of the type of trannies that actually become sex offenders and criminals due to rape before transition or never transition and rape and hurt people.
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>>44011719
...yes?
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>>44011451
So you think your pain allows you to brutalize cis women?
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>>44011494
More cis woman experience this than you realize
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>>44018695
lucky you, I wish I was the same, I regret how I was in the 2010s and especially 2020, I did things I never can forgive myself for, but now I'm in a better place.
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>>44018642
you're pretty spot on, but I'm not just blaming cis women though. Cis people in general are the problem.There was a point in time where I was worse than Jax. I called people slurs, constantly made fun of people, got into a few fights I still regret, so I think that you're correct in that were raised to be cis men. leftists fail to address A LOT more than just the complexity of growing up trans. alot of them are conservative in many aspects and fail to realize it. That's why I made this thread, to call out the group that puts on the performative leftists shit the most, afabs. Cis men are more upfront and physically violent about their hatred, while cis women are more systematically violent with their hatred. I'm trying to say that most self proclaimed "leftists" aren't actually leftists. Cis women/afabs are notorious liars, and they care a lot about their social status. which is why performative afabs exist in the first place.

I hope this made sense, I'm writing this through tears and my grammar is probably shit.
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>>44018769
when the fuck did I say that?

>me: I like cats! I think certain dogs are annoying
>xitterfags: so you want to beat dogs to death?

like wtf???
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>>44018790
yeah they do, but it's different in manifestation. AFABs and trans/cis women (if they pass) have to deal with apathy for their opinions and ideas as they are not taken seriously and treated as "emotional and irrational." Whereas with AMABs it's apathy over their feelings and emotions as they are told to "get over it."
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>>44018886
it is cis people yea, it's just the ignorance of not seeing both sides and treating your kind as only a victim, the big issue of our age dividing cis men from cis women, let alone making cis people hate us. People hate what they don't understand and fear those who challenge their worldview.
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>>44018921
You're kind of onto something other than thinking that it's somehow "AFABs" and "AMABs" rather than the obvious "women" and "men" (trans men are men, no, they aren't suddenly women just because they're trans), but the big question is: BY WHO?
It's not women dismissing other women's ideas for being women, it's men. Whereas men's feelings may be dismissed not just by women but also by other men.
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>>44018921
Non passing trannies are hit with both actually
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>>44018956
Non passing trannies are men to women and women to men so get the worst of both
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>>44018769
Yup. That is exactly what they think. Also, it is "sex recorded at birth" not assigned.
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>>44018886
oh another thing to say

Yeah leftists fail at this, but I wouldn't call it conservativism. It's just the flaws in oppressor vs oppressed ways of thinking. Sure, white people unilaterally benefitted over racial minorities and screwed them over. Same for the rich billionaire rapists vs us poor retards. Leftism is really good at pointing out good vs evil in these situations and motivating people to fight this crap, it's just the patriarchy bucks that, because the patriarchy isn't about all men ruling over all women or all amabs over afabs, but rather a specific class of hyper-masculine men ruling and raping all of the rest of society, whether it'd be faggy men, GNC men, men who don't want to be monsters, trans women, cis women, and ofc little girls and boys. Even animals at times. All must be raped by the "alpha males." It's that bit of criticism that incels get so close to, yet so far away because they are so obsessed about getting their rape on too like how poor whites felt in the pre-Civil War American South.
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>>44019025
> it is
where and according to who?
if we're just pulling things out of our dreams then
> it is "arbitrary fate and meaningless category forced on you by a doctor" not assigned
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>>44019025
>t. Most intellectually honest TERF
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>>44018886
>There was a point in time where I was worse than Jax.
>Cis women/afabs are notorious liars, and they care a lot about their social status
Sounds like you still are
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>>44019029
Yeah I think you're right this time!
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>>44019058
I already feel like shit, fuck off
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>>44019025
I'm not saying to justify that and I hope to dear god Maple/OP isn't thinking that either, yuck, just that it's the explanation behind shittiness, rather than an excuse to say that it's "okay." Like society has to know the problem of living as an amab and the toxic path they're forced to take and the horrible actions it encourages and the complicated nature between the patriarchy and amabs to fight the patriarchy, instead of "hurr durr men or all amabs suck"
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>>44019065
Why do your hurt feelings entitle you to abuse innocent people?
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>>44019065
Transphobes are evil and will attack you when you're at your lowest. This is just "fork found in kitchen".
>>44018542
Maple, read this.
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>>44019065
I mean, there's unhealthy patterns still in how you argue things, even if you are still trying to do better, like a lot of misanthropy and depression over the topic and assuming the worst, especially of afabs and cis people. It's not healthy to think that and to be on here, and you deserve a hug and you need to relax out of this crappy website. (づ ᴗ _ᴗ)づ
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>>44019088
this is why I made this thread. you're calling me an abuser when I'm literally not. you fucking people are so quick to call trans women monsters without actually knowing them as people. THIS is why I made this thread, not because I hate women. I don't even speak to people and am alone constantly, who the fuck am I abusing you dumb cunt?
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>>44019134
Maple, that is a transphobe deliberately trying to hurt you. You don't need to defend yourself. They might not even believe what they are saying. Allow them to be wrong, you don't owe a response to every wrong thing some moron writes about you.
You entertain transphobes' accusations but ignore your sister who wants to help you.
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>>44019134
>>44019134
You admitted to calling people slurs "all the time" and say than you were worse than Jax. I'm not jumping to anything you haven't confessed to.
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>>44019088
It doesn't, but it explains how abuse happens and you have to know the problem to fix it right? Not everything is black and white. At least us Mainers can understand that with Graham Platner, let alone me understanding it with trannies by being a tranny with similar past experiences. Understanding isn't justification, I will never fully forgive myself for my past, I hurt people massively in my life and have nightmares over it.
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>>44019058
yeah she still has issues, hence why ai pointed that out, but as I also said, gotta understand how people suck to fix those problems, instead of the simple "you have sinned" purity politics most leftists have
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>>44019211
*I, not ai wtf
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>>44011451
Maple is a fucking failure and a horrible person to be completely honest.
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>>44019073
They don't all suck, but due to the manosphere, the human body is very flawed. All it takes is a man to have higher testosterone than cortisol, and it screws them over; they are more psychopathic. It is why SIGNIFICANTLY fewer women are psychopaths. Plus, female socialisation prioritising social connections and human empathy def helped.
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>>44014531
see maple this is why your thread is ass cause now you have incels going yes the misandrist afabs will never understand our male pain
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>>44019048
No, it is not a meaningless category. It is determined by gamete production. Human cells contain 23 pairs of chromosomes, with the 23rd pair being the sex chromosomes. During reproduction, cell division creates sperm and eggs (gametes) that hold only half of the genetic material. Eggs (Maternal): Always contain one X chromosome.Sperm (Paternal): Can carry either an X chromosome or a Y chromosome.

Fertilisation: When the sperm and egg fuse, the resulting embryo inherits a full set of chromosomes (46 total, or 23 pairs). If an X-sperm fertilises the egg, the genetic combination is XX, leading to the development of a biological female. If a Y-sperm fertilises the egg, the genetic combination is XY, leading to the development of a biological male.

Fetal Development. For the first few weeks of pregnancy, all embryos develop identically. Around the sixth week of gestation, the presence of the Y chromosome triggers male development via a specific trigger called the SRY gene. If the SRY gene is active, it instructs the body to produce male reproductive organs. If the SRY gene is absent (as in XX embryos), the embryo defaults to female development. Understanding this mechanism helps explain why there is a roughly 50% statistical probability of having a male or female child.

XX and XY bodies differ across every organ system, driven by sex chromosomes and hormone profiles. These differences impact anatomy, metabolism, immune function, and disease susceptibility. You can change body fat distribution, skin, and body hair, but you can't change the male skeleton, the brain activity and structural differences, the differences in organ size, in X-linked recessive disorders like male-pattern baldness, colourblindness, Hemophilia or Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy. If an XY body inherits a faulty gene on its single X chromosome, it is screwed. Women, on the other hand, have a backup system; if one X chromosome is flawed, we have another that steps in to compensate.
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>>44019471
It's not just hormones, sure T certainly festers a sexual addiction that gets people addicted to porn at the age of 13 and mess them up, but besides that I think T's effects are exaggerated socially and being used as an excuse when amabs still can just not do horrible shit.

The real problem is male socialization and that being raised as a male is meant to cut off any feminity and encourage sociopathy, rape, violence, sadism, and other things that "should be rights of manly men" according to the patriarchy. And to make sure they can give rapey men an excuse by numbers and naturalist arguments, they commit violence, rape, and abuse on any amab who rejects the patriarchy in any fashion. Hence the word "faggot."
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>>44019471
Oops. word vomited a bit here. What I meant to say is they don't all suck, but due to the manosphere, there is more misogyny and hatred + violence towards women. The human body is also very flawed. All it takes is a man to have higher testosterone than cortisol, and it screws them over; they are more psychopathic. It is why SIGNIFICANTLY fewer women are psychopaths. Plus, female socialisation prioritising social connections and human empathy definitely helped.
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>>44019544
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3166523/

Not fake and it is the way they are socialised that excuses their behaviour but that doesn't mean that the behaviour wouldn't exist without it
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>>44019541
>XX and XY bodies differ across every organ system, driven by sex chromosomes and hormone profiles. These differences impact anatomy, metabolism, immune function, and disease susceptibility. You can change body fat distribution, skin, and body hair, but you can't change the male skeleton, the brain activity and structural differences, the differences in organ size, in X-linked recessive disorders like male-pattern baldness, colourblindness, Hemophilia or Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.

Not true. I mean technically it is, but really what chromosomes do is:

1. set the base sex hormone produced by the body
2. make pp or leave as vagina

The second change in fact is still fundamentally caused by hormones, for example there are XY-chromosomed "cisgender" women who are born with vaginas, hence being "cisgender" but they are really intersex because their body is literally incompatible with the base hormone of their chromosomes, changing their body massively.

When you switch hormones as a trans woman, a lot of those things do change. Male pattern baldness might be based off of chromosomes, but also on hormones contributing to the death of hair, which can be blocked by transitioning. Bone structure does diverge into the female form if hormones are blocked during early teen years and estrogen started in the later years, leading to bones developing in a female manner. Same goes for any other non-fat structural differences besides breast development which can happen at any age. Take hormones in teen years, and your height is capped for example, not growing like a man but a woman. And there's so much more

The above is because our hormones barely exist during childhood, besides the gestation period in the womb to make a dick. Girls and boys are physically identical until puberty starts, and it's puberty that leads to a flow of hormones that develop the body in our sexually dymorphic ways. Block natural puberty and replace it, and you get the other puberty instead.
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>>44019485
It doesn't have to be "male pain." I was just saying that trans women are the target of misandrist treatment, even though they're women so it doesn't even apply. Hence "rapehon." Passoids can't be rapehons because people actually see them as women by then so the rapist sexism is removed.
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>>44019587
admittedly I was meaning what I said as a moral argument as I didn't want to justify sociopathy, but yeah scientifically it's true, T sucks
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>>44019634
Sexual dimorphism begins in the womb. Skeletal blueprints, like shoulder-to-hip ratios, pelvic architecture, and bone density baselines, are locked in during critical fetal development windows long before puberty even starts. Synthetic estrogen can block future male growth if taken early enough, but it cannot rewrite an already established male frame or skeletal structure. More importantly, chromosomes don't just turn off after birth. Research from the Weizmann Institute of Science proved that over 6,500 genes are expressed completely differently between men and women across every single tissue type in the body, affecting everything from liver enzymes to muscle fibre composition. Trying to use CAIS, which is a rare clinical intersex condition, to claim that a normal male body can just be 'switched over' with a hormone regimen is a total logical failure. A hormone script can change skin texture and body fat, but it can't rewrite the genetic code hardwired into every cell of an XY body.
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>>44019701
and where's the proof in that? https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/110/5/e1411/7734697
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>>44019929
This was about test to cortisol ratios and psychopathy
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>>44011451
i mean...he kinda was.

>>44011573
>one of the themes
yeah i can see that
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>>44019177
>>44019211
I'm all for understanding the origins of abuse and why people lash out, but op is still on 4chan blaming women for why she's hateful. Zero accountability. It's just "why do you make me hurt you?".
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>>44017561
>YES
baka just troon already goddamn



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