i think one of the reasons why there could never be female repressor representation media in the way characters like jax exist, is because if jax was already misogynistic, then a femrepper would be double that, because they would be even more repulsed by femininity.people wouldnt be able to tell if the character really is dysphoric, or if they just have internalized misogyny that they need to work through in order to be happy, because they are supposed to be a woke woman, and turning women into men is not woke. the other way around is much more acceptable, which is why jax exists, because women are woke, and men turning into women is double woke.in the case the femrepper looks and acts masculine, theyd be interpreted as a butch, or a masculine woman, which is in itself woke. but the moment that is revoked, it would become negative woke. because butches are not heccin men.if the femrepper is hyperfem, it would be harder to notice and even represent, because is it really dysphoria, or is the character having issues with conforming to the ideals of beauty and yadda yadda that she must overcome in order to be woke? you dont have to be feminine to be a woman. thats okay, thats simple and easy to solve, but will never point towards any obvious dysphoria.it takes me back in a way, to when i found out about trans men being a thing and having this uneasy feeling like it would inherently offend people somehow but didnt for some reason. and honestly, i think it rightfully should, which is why im repressing
>>44014781tldr: trans male characters that actually meaningfully struggle with their gender should/will never exist because their struggle must not go beyond them saying "im trans because i always felt like a man", because the moment you go beyond that you uncover the layers upon layers of misogyny that their dysphoria is built upon.just take a look at what people like forestchan post on this board: >>43999718>"i want to beat up women because i hate femininity and when i beat up women its like im beating up femininity".Do you honestly think a sane person would say this?its no wonder people would rather do our optics a favor and agree to never make trans mens Real struggles with dysphoria public. hefab and theyfab heccin valid boyerinos are probably way better optics than this. transfem dysphoria is okay because its understandable but trans male dysphoria genuinely feels like a schizophrenic mental disorder.
>>44014781why is she me tho
I need to see a misogynistic FTM repressor in media right the fuck now.
Take your fucking T aiden
If I am #theraped and misogynist, it must just be due to the former and the dysphoria is misplaced self-aggression right
>>44014781>>44014794>We can't have a femrepper because what if...what if their character has DEPTH??? and the audience has to think for more than 2 seconds to understand them
>>44014781The new front in trans rep will be repressors who are morally complicated and may be outright transphobic. I don't care if it's bad for optics or not progressive enough, I prefer art that exists for its own sake to trutrans fluff that only exist to make the good ones look better.
>>44015170The hyperfocus on optics fucking sucks. I want to see human beings in all their reality. Not sanitized paper cut outs.
>>44014781>if jax was already misogynistic, then a femrepper would be double that, because they would be even more repulsed by femininity.It would probably be the opposite>Masc repper femcel character is repulsed by cis menIrl example is that She-Ra creator
>>44014781You are the worst poster on this board
>>44015112exactly, because the raped must be properly represented in order to show how brave and strong they are when overcoming their Raped status (but still never ceasing to be women)>>44015137because the 2 seconds they take to think are already spent on interpreting them as anything else a woman could be to be woke instead of the unobvious borderline misogynistic option (because Women Can be All Those Things and dont have to be men to be those things)>>44015170>The new front in trans rep will be repressors who are morally complicated and may be outright transphobic.honestly im looking forward to it but i think tumblrites and fandom creatures alike would have a hard time appreciating these, i just wish people cared about and understood depth over relatability. so many people hate jax because they just dont relate. not to mention transmascs who were so close to fulfilling their headcanon and MIGHT have admitted to be misogynistic if jax turned out to be transmasc instead. that would probably have been the closest to what i described here>>44015249>It would probably be the opposite>Irl example is that She-Ra creatorok thats a different story then but still not sure how itd work since these people have collectively agreed that misandry isnt a real thing and that "hating men" is just a natural reaction. even if this were represented in media it would probably be received positively because hey thats just a heccin feminist. wheres the dysphoria? clearly she hates men so she would never be a man.but the thing is that people like that who actually do transition exist in massive quantities, except the difference between these people and the ones i described is that they can manage to be comfortable by "socially" transitioning and still subconsciously considering themselves women(nonbinary) and not heccin moids. and thats it thats the conclusion. theres not enough pain to show in these cases, unless im missing something>>44015313ok
>>44015399Coming from a current and former cis man hating ftm, the character will casually look down on cis men because they view them as inadequate versions of them self
>>44015661so like a misandrist woman thinking shes superior? so theres actually a word for that: delusional. the media would love it tho. still dont think it leaves much space to explore the actual dysphoria within that. if shes fine not being male because she hates men, then why would she be dysphoric?
>>44015720>misandrist woman thinking shes superiorIt would be more like>transgender perceives themselves as better because they have double experience as a man and a womanThey can still be dysphoric about physical traits because dysphoria be like that
>>44015794>transgender perceives themselves as better because they have double experience as a man and a womanok well again thats a different story because thats no longer a repper, but an actual tranny. in the case i proposed it would have to be a woman denying herself transition
>>44015869Hmm so how do repper stories go, if not ending it trannyism? Are they supposed to die like Jax?
>>44015884>Are they supposed to die like Jax?Yes.
>>44014781i think you should make a cartoon abt a poon repressor, jarbs
>>44014781please troon out i will blow my head off
>>44018581i know of a person who has a femrepper character which i think is Extremely rare and from what i gathered from their story they apparently try to murder a troon LOLLLLwhich is also kind of why this post came to be. i dont think theres any accurate way to represent them that isnt 100% deranged like that. the moment you stray from that the character either becomes a proper tranny or non dysphoric gnc>>44018603dont do that tranny chan (｡•́︿•̀｡)
>>44018902Share the femrepper character? This sounds extremely based I want to read/watch/whatever whatever this is from
>>44018902theres also that anti depressants clinical trial game that people make an inordinate amount of fan art for. and see how that game ended lol
>>44018902>i know of a person who has a femrepper character which i think is Extremely rare and from what i gathered from their story they apparently try to murder a troon LOLLLLlmaotypical repper behavior
>>44018902I think it is okay for trans characters to be disgusting and disturbing. I personally have never been able to make up a trans character that is not those things. I think my existence is inherently disturbing and intriguing. I think I should scare some people off. After all, we humans are really gross.
>>44019043unfortunately i cant thats from like one of my top 10 opps. they also have a super villain ftm character though which i think is also based>>44019122OH right lol. i actually thiink ive seen more porn of that game than actual normal fan art>>44019143Exactly ive been saying. Personally i wouldnt do that but i would understand why someone like that would want to do that
>>44019352>unfortunately i cant thats from like one of my top 10 opps. they also have a super villain ftm character though which i think is also basedGirl c'mon
>>44019453why are u mad
>>44019453>>44019043Jarbicyte is a coward. Here is the character they've been teasing so much.
>>44014781i enjoy outing my mother as a femprepper from time to time. i have no ego or need for dignity so ive sank pretty low to humiliate her and make her seem like less of a woman in other peoples eyes. youre right that the want to recognise femreppers is rare though. when i last publicly implied my mother was a gay man most of my family was like "pls stop".
>>44014781>transitioning would not be woke!!!god that is such a dumb reason to repress
>>44015399>clearly she hates men so she would never be a manliterally the argument people were using to say jax can't be a woman kek
>>44019122don't just vaguepost what's the game
>>44020380i didnt vague post. that is literally the name https://homieshouse.itch.io/clinical-trial
>>44020118>when i last publicly implied my mother was a gay man most of my family was like "pls stop".probably because it just sounds fucking ridiculous. when you think of the average cishet woman she isnt remotely similar to a gay man>>44020178its still trve though. transitioning is only woke when youre hsts, so in pooners cases when they were a lesbian before transitioning. i was never a lesbian and people joking that i was actually made me dysphoric because im a yaoi obsessed foid (even though i dont read yaoi)>>44020318yea but its more common to push the "theyre secretly closeted!" thing on "male" characters than on female ones because imagine implying that a misandrist lesbian is actually a man who is attracted to men
>>44020056also youre a bitch
>>44015170Need femrepper in tech that finally experiences enough misogyny that they snap and go “fuck it, if I’m going to be treated like shit either way I’ll just troon out”
>>44015661Yeah I have a weird thing where all the men in my family are very emotional and mentally weak and I have a hard time not expanding that to generally perceiving all XYs as mentally weak and emotionally fragile, especially when compared to masculine women, lesbians, and ftms
>>44014781this is the most thoughtful thing you've ever posted on the board. malebrained. ygmi.
>>44020445>when you think of the average cishet woman she isnt remotely similar to a gay manbut she could be. if anything such an experience could be healing for the average straight woman.
>>44020492>such an experience could be healing for the average straight woman.probably for the fujos yeah
>>44020532>probably for the fujos yeahi dont think its just themso many women have complex issues with masculinity born from their own rejection of it or half hearted embrace. the inability to own what we call masculinity, the need to find it or push it off onto others, that itself is a mental illness in my eyes. to have a woman become her own man i can only imagine would be the kind of healing you grieve after, no longer shackled to a half existence in that gilded cage every straight woman is raised to call home.
>>44020554oh that is true desu. but most things point towards that being the minority, a lot of women actually do enjoy being women. i wish i was that way too
>>44020600>a lot of women actually do enjoy being women.i think this is a separate question though, which is more or less the crux of why "its not actually that weird". masculinity and femininity are not opposites either in absolute or gradient terms, theyre almost entirely comprised of territories. a womans need to consider herself only a woman is harmful not just for herself but for all those around her, as she divorces herself from a territory that cannot go entirely unmanaged. when a woman refuses to be a man we get at least one of two things: either excessive emotional dependence on men and their existence for her, or a shadow masculinity that is entirely unconstrained in its expression, which is dangerous as the territory of masculinity occupies a lot of behaviours that we tell women is simply not in their nature, when in reality its no less in their nature than it is in mens.
>>44020445you're overthinking it. you can either live a shitty dysphoric life or you can poon out. which'll it be?
>>>44020445>transitioning is only woke when youre hstsits arguably less woke. going from a lesbo to a straight man is a wokeness downgrade. only agps and aaps should transition because both of them seem to genuinely enjoy being the opposite sex meanwhile hsts are opeating by 50s era gender stereotypes. most husstuss mtfs act like catty retarded bimbos its genuinely embarrassing
>>44022390Man femreppers will do anything but transition. They're literally in here talking about femrepper ocs.
>>44014781They should have pooner representation of a repressed ftm abusing an mtf to vent pent up frustration over his body and m misogyny and disdain for her abandoning masculinity inbetween loving her and wanting to dote on her and protect herLike we could start with an femrepper doing that to me! Wouldnt that be great representation???
>>44022390ok see this is another example of how deranged all of us are. imagine showing this to a normie theyd get instantly pulverized>>44022484>going from a lesbo to a straight man is a wokeness downgrade.when you see it like that it kind of is desu. but i just dont know why it seems to be much more common. i think the wokeness of it is more in liking women than any other aspect. a het woman who is dysphoric is probably just "confused and she just really likes men" or something.>only agps and aaps should transition because both of them seem to genuinely enjoy being the opposite sexi agree that agps should transition because theyre usually depressed and thatd make them much happier but aaps dont behave in the same way i think. in fact theyre more often the opposite of depressed, theyre basically bathing in euphoria prior to transitioning, its like a larp getting taken too seriously to the point that they make it real and i think thats the embarrassing part. these are the people whod get told "why not just be a tomboy?" because theres no other queer indicator to them that would really make people consider they are trans unlike dysphoric butch lesbians>most husstuss mtfs act like catty retarded bimbosbut thats okay because its much closer to how women actually behave than a foid larping as an anime uke twink
>>44022678>They should have pooner representation of a repressed ftm abusing an mtf to vent pent up frustration over his body and m misogyny and disdain for her abandoning masculinityterfs would sure love that theyd even start kinning that character
