I'm pretty desperate now. I have absolutely no money for FFS and it will take forever to save up for it.Is DIY FFS possible? Assuming I studied anatomy, some medicine, surgery, learned surgical techniques, got scans of my skull, etc. if I planned it all out?I'm already DIYing my electrolysis and it's pretty easy and saves so much money. I wonder if I could go the extra step.Anaesthesia seems to be a problem, as I think they generally do general anaesthesia, hard to do that when you're the one operating on yourself.
girl be so fucking for real rn
>>44026954You cannot DIY FFS. Most of it is incredibly risky without proper equipment. Mandible - nerve or artery (posssibly fatal) damageChin - Nerve DamageOrbital - Nerve, vision damageForehead - type 3 impossible without toolsAll - require cutting bone with precision tools, blood loss replacement if needed
>>44026958If you don't want me to do this or if society doesn't want me to do this, maybe it shouldn't have turned me into a hon and should provide FFS for free
>>44026954no. the only diy body modification that actually works is pushing up/damaging your cuticles for longer nails.
>>44026986Possibly? It absolutely is fatal and some types of nerve pain will cause the worse phantom pain and headaches
>>44026986I wouldn't do it with random equipment, obviously with sterile, real surgical equipment. Almost definitely just one surgery at a time, not everything at once
>>44026954diy electrolysis <> diy ffswhat do you do for work?
>>44027029I know it's not the same thing, but again I'm pretty desperate.
No, that's obviously retarded.A better way would be to visit clinics and literally cry and beg in front of the doctor(s). How much do you want it? If you want it enough you'll be shameless enough to do this
>>44026954yes of course Ksenia has certainly done it by now and moved to russia
You're just gonna skin your own face off and die of shock/blood loss lol
>>44026954And I thought I was crazy for wanting to diy an orchi.
Welcome back Ksenia
>>44027041You cant figure out a way to make money so instead youre willing to literally kill yourself or at the very least completely destroy yourself and make it basically impossible to get ffs or even live a normal life later?even surgeons who have worked their entire adult lives, who do plastic surgery for a living, would never be able to operate on themselves.youd have WAY more luck reaching out to mutual aid groups like No More Dysphoria to see if they could help instead
>>44027059Yeah and what will they do lmao? Doctors, especially surgeons, are greedy fucks. They don't really care about you and would rather give you an antipsychotic than FFS.
>>44027106There are some that do volunteer work, seek out those.
>>44027093I'm willing to kill myself anyway. While I haven't made any plans, my life is 24/7 suffering from gender dysphoria due to how masculine I am. So I either try something or just die anyway.
some people are too retarded to live this is just natural selection at this point
>>44026954I've been thinking about this todayAtp if it was significantly cheaper I'd permit a DIY unlicensed surgeon to do ffs on me if the word of mouth was good>>44026998I've never heard about this could you tell me more?
>>44027294Yeah same. I doubt many will do it, especially for cheap, because doing a mistake could mean manslaughter charges. Obviously not a problem if you're operating on yourself.
You obviously cannot
Have you tried bagging a rich guy?
>>44027569You kind of have to not be a hon to do that
>>44027016Before they do facial surgery like this, they use machines you dont have to map where your nerves lay so they can avoid them, if by some miracle you survive you will have a horribly disfigured and paralyzed facethis is also incredibly subtle work you wouldnt even have the skill to do on someone else in a way that looks good even if you had all of the tools, look at how many ffs surgeons are butchers even with years of practice and all of the tools, a full team supporting them, a full education and not performing the surgery on themselvesand what? you're going to do it with no anesthetic? or are you going to grind your facial bones down all morphined out? loland with what tools? it would cost thousands to even get the tools required to do this to yourself, if you can afford that you can afford to save anywayretarded
>>44027654If you're too afraid to do it and have to think of reasons not to do it, then try not making them up. You seem to think that surgery is this impossible to understand field for normal people.You can look at anthropological data, images of female skulls, compare them to X-rays of your own face, model the desired jaw/brow ridge with 3D software before doing anything. Then you can 3D print a mold for a cutting guide, exactly the same kind surgeons use.>and what? you're going to do it with no anesthetic?I literally mentioned this several times. Local anaesthesia is a thing.If you want to be a slave to midwits who live in mansions and botch your surgeries because they don't care about you, then do what you want. FFS is at best 10 years away, likely more. I don't want to wait that time, especially when I can get better results done myself and for much cheaper.
>>44026954Stop that Elva
>>44027294>I've never heard about this could you tell me more?literally no one knows about this, i discovered it myself. one time i accidently hit my area between my nail and cuticle very hard, evaporating some of the skin and (i believe) making it bleed (probably not). it healed and that area is now visibly pushed up and it was in such a spot that it makes that nail look far more pleasant than it did before. not joking. you could also just get a "surgery" to push your cuticles up
>>44027654>>44027758You guys seem to know a lot about skulls. What sex does this one look like to you?
>>44028268giw i had no browbone
>>44028268mogs me
>>44027794I don't know who that is
>>44028268it says facial team in the cornerdum dum
>>44028756That doesn't answer my question at all
>>44028779if a person with the boymoder flag is posting a photo of a skull and in the corner of the photo theres written in bold letters "FACIAL TEAM" what sex do you think the skull would be?
>>44026954Holy shit don't anon.
>>44028810Im asking you what the skull looks like, not what things around it say... I'm not trying to get anyone in a gotcha, I'm looking for honest feedback.
>>44028893Pay for my FFS then
