you live here and consider it normal. You live here and don't question it. You live here to be useful. you live here as a trans woman and wonder why you're sad all the time. You live here and don't know your neighbors names cause they don't exist. You live here and post to this board daily. You live here but all your "friends" are so far away. You live here. I love you all but you're deluded.
>>44027709the city is the tranny's natural environment and depriving them of it should be considered a form of cruelty
>>44027721As an European, this picture isn't a city, it's a problem.
>>44027709this is where you shop for processed food. You don't question it because it's normal.
I have cool math autism so I get to live in the big city and larp as an urbanite in a walkable neighborhood :)
>>44027709does america actually look like this?
>>44027709wrong i live in new york city and am beautiful and unbothered at my families beach house rn
>>44027709you live here. it's not out of the ordinary to you.
>>44027709Actually I live in Argentina dude
Pls stop liminalposting
>>44027787concrete jungles are normal.
>>44027709This is a good post because it poses a questions and implies a clear answer without a forced call to action.*Picture of white crown moulding perpindicular to yellow painted walls and beige carpet*
>>44027732I know it isn't, this is the cruelty im talking about
>>44027756yep. Barely looks different from my street. Just more expensive.
there's no shame in living in these places or shopping here. You don't really have a choice or say in the matter. I'm just pointing out how you live. You are an asset to people who don't have to live like this.
>>44027709i live in a beautiful affluent neighborhood and i will never have enough money to move out or even dream of living in a place like picrel with my own money ;_;
>>44027709im sorry im poor
>>44027709maple is a 12 year old backrooms brainrotted child CONFIRMED
>>4402790324/7, 365.
>>44027840Actually the area I live in has a lot of street trees and the buildings are no taller than 5 stories.
>>44027709>You live here and don't know your neighbors namesWhat is it with urbanists and pretending like people in high rise apartments know their neighbors? I have been living in 200+ unit buildings ever since finishing school and it is way more common in the suburbs to know your immediate neighbors.
Maple, you were distinctly told to go outside for a bit. Worried about you :cYou're gonna push yourself into a psychotic break, you've got to change up the pattern, no one can do it for you but plenty would like to see you do it
couldnt be me i live in a cool city outside the imperial core
>>44027737ma'am this is a Mervyn's
>>44028114im trapped in imperial centre rn pls hlp
Maple I don't know you past your cute Jax art, but it sounds like you're spiraling a little. Sure suburban sprawl, spaghetti junctions, and dingy studios with no room to stretch can be depressing, but the reality is, if you can't easily escape you can still adapt and overcome.It will be okay. Have heart.
>>44027721sorry but trannies belong in a rural area with their chaser. the city only overstimulates them and makes them feel inadequate
>>44027709yea bro the city has so much culture
>>44027709Suburbia is hell, thank fuck I'm moving somewhere with train access soon. Anyone ever wonder why Greg Heffley is Like That? It's because that kid grew up HERE.
i wish i had friendsi wish i didnt spend my whole life in the same place i got raped where i have no connection to anyone or anything around mei wish i had a way out
>>44027709Maple, the issue is that you're in the wrong environment, only trans can suffer in midwestern suburbia, and it even feels like a hellscape to you because nothing there is set up for a tranny. Its all meant to help guide people into building a nuclear family and having the soccer mom dream life. Proximity to other families w/ young children, activities for everyone to do together, pools and gynmnastics clubs and things like that, they all exist to help people do the standard white family set of experiences.Trannies don't want a nuclear family, but unlike the proud Gays, they do care a little bit about what society thinks. They want to be enough of a standard woman or man that other people accept them, so therefore they can't make communes the same way as gay men or gay women (rarely works) because they can't just eschew society altogether and not care what other people think.Therefore, the best place for a transgender is either a solo life in an apartment in a big city like Atlanta, Charlotte, Richmond, Chicago, Boston, or a solo life in a rural cabin or medium-sized house some distance away from other people like on the outskirts of the woods
I've seen maples pp
>>44027709Unc saw the backrooms movie lmfao
>>44027874...what?
>>44027709Move to a city in a purple state
>>44028487She's a human pet for a rich person, that's what that means. It can happen to trannies, honestly i'm jealous, hope I can show my appreciation if someone ever adopts me 1 day
I feel sick
>>44028523I think god intended for me to be a tranny but he accidentally matched my parts and psyche and didn’t give me any deranged fetishes, so I’m just sort of a weird straggot lurker.I’m an immensely shameful person so I could never give a tranny the respect they deserve, take them out on dates/in public etc, but I could maybe house them one some sort of plantation or compound? I have a good job. The best ones are late-luckshit bdd passoids that are a little bit clocky. I think they can live in the main house and serve me and my tomboy cis wife. All trannies must maintain a body mass index between 18 and 22.Each tranny would get food and board, an internet connection, 4 cigarettes and 6 drinks per week (they do not roll over). They would not have to pay for these things, but would need to afford their own spending habits with part time employment.
>>44027709>ginormous housesImagine having this much money. I don't live anywhere near a place with this much space per living area.
>>44027709Just looking at this makes me want to kill myself, lifeless grey ocean of concrete and asphalt, there is no life there. No fucking nature at all just boring fucking cut grass and what probably are imported trees, what stings the most for me is that they probably bulldozed a beautiful little ecosystem just to build some dystopic shit pile on top of its remains, people designing these places have no souls.
i will get a job i will escape suburbia i will have friends i will have a real life i will i will i will i will i willi hate this place so much suburbs are an affront to the human condition and a disgusting waste thank you for this incredibly based thread nonny
>>44028902Indeed. It's very nice having that much living space and private property. The ones who cry about suburbia are weird communist faggots.
>>44029145>The ones who cry about suburbia are weird communist faggots.i think it's more a basic observation that the suburban lifestyle is extremely wasteful and unnecessary. it hits especially close to home when the us has a very large homeless population and the housing market is just rich people trading these ugly ostentatious homes amongst themselves. suburbs are soulless, isolating, massively inefficient places that get a completely undue amount of the zoning because rich fucks like them and rich fucks rule the world.
>>44029349>the suburban lifestyle is extremely wasteful and unnecessary>t. spiteful commie retard
>>4402934970% of America lives in the suburbs. Urbancucks are the minority.
>>44029499source: your ass
>>44029483am i wrong or>>44029499>70% of America lives in the suburbs.more like 50%, and most of those are older suburbs that look nothing like picrel. a lot of americans live in suburbs because we built a FUCKTON of them post-ww2, they became our national fetish. so duh when there's a large supply of suburban housing a lot of people are going to live in that housing. this does not change a single thing i said and you should feel stupid for leaving this reply.
>>44027709you should get shitfaced again or something youre starting act unmedicated
>>44029547>>44029603People can choose to live in urban, suburban and rural areas. The majority choose to live in the suburbs. They like it there and there is a lot to like.
>>44029734if any aliens are reading this post,, i just waant u to know that i love uou <<3
>>44029837I agree ! I live in the Designated Suburban Zone and i am Satisfied to an Above Average Level. Trust this poster and any political commentary he has to be true.
>>44029499americans are like fucking lab rats i swear to godthey'll make up some retarded thing, pretend it's always been there' and have a histrionic breakdown when you point out it's not normal and hasn't existed here until recently or anywhere else ever. the cia did a DAMN good jobmost culturally isolated country ever
>>44029958As opposed to your assigned bugman 150 sqft cuckbox #455832?>>44029994>histrionic Amusing. My posts are calm yet you're spazzing out. You wouldn't be projecting, perchance?Hype dense urban centers are also not "normal" if you're talking about how humans naturally lived. Cavemen didn't live in tiny cuckboxes stacked by the thousands.
>>44029837anon do you know what supply and demand is? you think people pick housing based purely on preference? they were wasteful things to build in the first place, but yes now that we have them there is a large supply so they are more accessible. that doesn't make them any less stupid and wasteful. and by the way, picrel counts as a 'suburb'.
>>44030682>anon do you know what supply and demand is? The sheer irony of this statement lmao. If people were absolutely clamoring to live in urban centers they would be just be building tons of massive apartment towers. But they aren't. Because the majority don't want that. The majority want to live suburban for obvious reasons.>stupidEnjoying privacy, space, private property, less crime, less traffic etc. is hardly stupid>wastefulNope. And nothing is perfectly efficient. If you wanted max efficiency you'd live in a pod just big enough to sleep in at work.
>>44027840Better than a suburb
>>44030682Further, none of this argumentation matters. It's all bullshit window dressing, as are all communist arguments. It's all nonsense to cover for the actual motivation and goal. Which is that you hate yourself and are very spiteful and want to drag others down. Most specifically white people. Almost nothing bothers you more than white suburban families being happy and safe.
>>44027709this place sucks! this place sucks! this place suucks!!!
>>44030811Then you can live there. Nobody is stopping you.>B-but everyone has to live in a shitty cuckbox too!No.
>>44030796anon you seem to have this very funny idea in your head that, if people are willing to throw their money at something, it must be a good thing. and so you've tried to reframe this argument as a 'well most people would prefer to live in a suburb' thing like it's a remotely astute observation that yes a lot of people would rather have a big house all to themself than live in an apartment. but i will remind you anon that that's not what we were fucking talking about!!! the question of this argument is not which is more *desirable* to the average american, it's which is *better*. do you see the difference? because those are different!and you've completely brushed over a very critical part of my post, that being that a hell of a lot of suburbs are not nice prim and proper places like oop's picrel, a significant chunk are quite poor and run down. a lot of those places will have several individuals each renting a bedroom in a suburban home. people are not choosing to live in those suburbs because they want privacy, space, private property, and less crime, they're choosing to live there because it's all they can afford you freak.nice suburbs are a psychotic luxury that sounds nice on paper but only serves to degrade society, and poor suburbs are a picture of desperation and the lack of options afforded to poor people in this country.but the real cream of the crop here is of course>And nothing is perfectly efficient.i mean WOW. that's beautiful anon, you should fucking frame that. so are you like actively opposed to using your brain? do you hate having thoughts and considering things? how about this anon: nothing is perfectly private, nothing is perfectly spacious, nothing is perfectly safe, nothing is perfectly navigable.
>>44030965>that yes a lot of people would rather have a big house all to themself than live in an apartmentYeah because it's better.
>>44028293i want to live somewhere i am able to be nude in a field with my bf, far away from any neighbors. unseen by anyone but him. cities are awful.
>>44031199please see the end of my post.>so are you like actively opposed to using your brain? do you hate having thoughts and considering things?
>>44031234yes. where nobody can hear you scream (in pleasure during forced boyremoval) and nobody can see ur SHR
>>44031248sorry anon but im the dom and his role is to lovingly care for me. he will not be forcing anything.
>>44031238I've been arguing with you Strong Towns communist faggots for years. It's always the same garbage arguments that always boil down to spite as I explained earlier. You seem rather young though and probably think the opinions you got from youtube are somehow novel.It's funny too, it becomes incredibly obvious when your argument inevitably amounts to "white middle class suburbs need to be destroyed and everyone must be forced to live in a bugpod in the city and here's why that's a good thing!"Whereas I have no issue with rural and urban existing. While suburban is the best for most people, there are advantages to all 3 locations. Live where you prefer, enjoy. In fact I highly support mass building of single family homes as well as large, nice apartment buildings in downtown. It will drive down housing costs for everyone.
I'm too european for this shit, are americans even real?
>>44031348>the eurocuck can't evenLol.
>>44030796>The sheer irony of this statement lmao. If people were absolutely clamoring to live in urban centers they would be just be building tons of massive apartment towers. But they aren't. Because the majority don't want that. The majority want to live suburban for obvious reasons.That's not true and can obviously be disputed by skyrocketing rent in major cities. Supply cannot keep up with demand in major cities. The market has been failing to do anything about this problem largely due to retarded zoning laws on top of lack of government housing. Zohran Mamdani literally ran on the policy of rent control because rent kept going up due to lack of supply to meet the ever growing demand. We are trapped between both a market incapable of acting and a government refusing to act.
>>44031463Housing costs have gone up across the board, it's not an urban thing.Stop mass immigration, deport illegals, mass build houses and apartments. Shrimple as.>government housing Retarded.
>>44031524We literally spent billions deporting illegals and nothing got better
>>44027709i remember the malaise hitting me when i was young, being dragged around supermarkets under perfectly even yellow phosphorescent lighting. living in a neighborhood where every house looked identical to the one next to it, with nothing in my town except other peoples houses and a few shops to buy food. no reason to talk to anyone. one bus that goes to the next town over thats always late. and just being trapped here my whole life. nothing happens, you dont meet anyone, nothing to see.
>>44031535It did actually. Not an night and day change. But it is better. We need to continue deporting them. And it's only so difficult because leftist retards make it as hard as possible because leftism is mental illness.
>>44031335>and probably think the opinions you got from youtube are somehow novel.i care a lot less about how novel my ideas are and more about how good they are?>your argument inevitably amounts to "white middle class suburbs need to be destroyedi did not say this. do you like making things up to win arguments?>I highly support mass building of single family homesi got that impression
>>44030796I wish man, rent’s getting so expensive here
>>44031732>i did not say thisNo shit. As I said, I already know the argument forward and backwards. I know all of your talking points. Because you were fed all of them and are simply regurgitating them.Either you're dumb, naive and literally have no idea what the goal of the movement the talking points you're parroting is or you're simply lying and obfuscating.
>>44031904Deportation, end mass immigration, mass build houses and apartments.
I live in the mountains. I am the lone mountain tranny.
>>44031942why tf would i want to demolish perfectly good housing
>>44027709i question this sort of thing alot and i live in a rural appalachian small town, i think this is a yank problem
>>44032027Well bud, maybe you should reevaluate the points you're parroting.
My friend lived there and she killed herself. Rest in peace Eve, my housemate you broke up with got a tattoo of your name for some reason.
>>44032138but i'm not parroting that point. you are literally strawmanning me as i speak and tell you i do not advocate for that. are you sick in the head?
I am one of two mountain trannies.
>>44027709I want to move so bad. I hate living in Florida. I’m going to save up and just leave and go do whatever I can to stay afloat somewhere else. I can’t deal with this isolation and shittiness anymore. All the queers nearby are just gay men who want to pound me and don’t have anything in common with me. I feel awful.
>>44027756i grew up in suburban hell, by land area there is far more of it than actual proper cities in the USpicrel the building i used to live in, an actually walkable place. i love living in a real city.
>>44029349It's also wasteful and is subsidized by urban areas in the form of transfer payments from state and federal governments.It may be cheaper to do greenfield development, but the taxbase to support equivalent infrastructure to cities is always going to be smaller (i.e. higher cost per capita), and yet suburbanites demand city services on the same or less property tax payments than they would make in a city.Then there's the transportation problems with typical suburban development patterns but really, anyone calling themself a fiscal conservative but who thinks suburban sprawl is the way to go is fundamentally unserious.
>>44031965>>44032226GIWTWM
>>44032218>doesn't get itThe talking points you are regurgitating are anti-middle class propaganda. The goal of this propaganda is several things but in particular the destruction of the white suburban middle-class.If you disagree with this goal, you should reevaluate the points you're parroting as that is the purpose of them.
>>44032401>and is subsidized by urban areas in the form of transfer payments from state and federal governments.This disingenuous because the jobs and companies paying those taxes are often staffed by people who commute from the suburbs.
>>44032509okay, show me. where is the evidence that this is propaganda in pursuit of destroying the white suburban middle-class? who's funding strong towns? what do they stand to gain? please enlighten me anon, since you're obviously so clued in.
>>44032536>admits it's strong townsLOL. Fuck I'm good.>where is the evidence that this is propaganda in pursuit of destroying the white suburban middle-class?Is the point where you pretend to not understand? Apparently so. Regardless, you won't find anyone, publicly anyway, admitting explicitly that they're trying to destroy white middle class suburbs. Because obviously. However that is the natural end state of the demonization of suburbs. That's where the middle class and especially white middle class live. It's not a coincidence that it's specifically targeted when it contains that demographic. When using propaganda you cant simply state the end goal. You dress it up, but craft it in such a way that if followed, your goal is achieved.
>>44032646rightttt so actually anon that's called making shit up and the audacity you must have to spout this drivel and expect me to believe it with zero evidence is shocking. the organizations you deride have hard data and good arguments behind their points. you have given me nothing of substance.
>>44031965>>44032226we three are three of many countless mountain trannies.
>>44027709Did you recently watch deep space nine? This sounds like when the prophets were trying to understand why sisko was dwelling on the battle of wolf 359.
>>44032530And? If municipalities routinely fail to upkeep their infrastructure on the taxes they raise and their voters staunchly refuse to raise taxes to sustainable levels (whether because they're just cheap or genuinely cannot afford it) and local governments routinely turn to sources with deeper coffers to keep the lights on, that's not an argument in favor of this pattern of development.My hometown (an upper-middle class suburb) is suffering massively because Trump's cuts slashed a lot of the one-time project grants they had been relying on. That's the problem with transfer payments: they're not a sustainable revenue source. They should be treated as multipliers for capital projects to enable doing more than just what is strictly necessary, but in practice they are frequently the only way of getting the bare minimum completed.
>>44027709uhhhh, no i don't? i live at 317 mckenzie street, santa fe new mexico 87501.
>>44034950tranny what in the name of interior decorating
>>44029942aww thank you, I love you, too! <3-oops! :o
>>44027709Bro I live in the desert and touch sand regularly
>>44027709I live in a house in a small city with my wife. We didn't know our neighbors when we lived in an apartment. We also felt way less safe since there were like 2 or 3 murders and at least a couple rapes less than a mile from us. People shit on neighborhoods, but sorry I like to feel safe, want to be able to garden, and avoid hearing my neighbors yelling or having sex.
>>44035165>since there were like 2 or 3 murders and at least a couple rapes less than a mile from usThis made me realise i live in a dump
>>44032780>Far over the Tranny Mountains cold>To dungeons deep and caverns old>We must away, ere break of day>To seek our pale enchanted gold
>>44028043They romanticise city living. And yes, city living is better, but it isn't what suburbanites think it is through watching idk Seinfeld
>>44036271No it's not, cities are miserable places, I've been to them; everything is so godawful crammed together.