Yes. The idea of making a mockery of myself everytime I speak by forcing out some breath-y mickey mouse sing song bullshit fills me with deep shame. I deadass pretend I'm mute sometimes at the gas station. I understand it's internalized transphobia but I fucking hate it.

>>44028974

i was bulimic as a teenager so my vocal cords dissolved enough so i don’t have to voice train but yeah idk it makes me feel so gross

>>44028974
Don't have to worry about that if you're a perma manmoder

I am literally too stupid to figure out how to voice train despite desperately wanting to

>>44028974
OP here. For more context, personally I sound like a normal guy but I've always had a higher peak to my vocal range than most guys, and when I get scared people would say I scream like a girl. But I'm missing that middle range and, IDK how else to put it, natural sound of a woman's voice. I love singing in the car along to songs like Ado's to try and push myself to hit that range. I think I'm just coping about the idea of having a shit woman voice that I have to use actively in conversations at normal volume, rather than screaming my heart out in fun.

>>44028974
ado would want you to voice train

>>44029965
i'm down to train my singing voice just for funsies, I really just hate the idea of having to pass for others. and yet i have to suffer the social consequences of that preference

>>44028996
but you don’t have to sound like that

bump, please I need to see advice or at least know I'm not that alone. Is there no other choice but to voicehon?

>>44028974
I'm a boymoder anyways, so who cares. Whenever I talk on the internet people think that I'm a girl, which honestly makes no sense because I sound like a guy and have done basically 0 voicd training, I guess I just have a faggy voice

>>44028974
Honestly I kinda embraced it. I remember thinking tgirl voices that were a lil clocky were hot pretransition, so, i tryo think thay someone will find my fagcent cute. I hope to eventually voice pass. I have had a couple experiences getting, "oh sorry, MA'AM" after actually speaking to someone who sir'd me, and that felt good. But its not all the time. Sometimes i feel devious and deliberately go back to my old voice to freak people out when ordering somewhere.

>>44032577
You hate the idea of voice training, but have you actually tried it?

>>44029005
Did it give you worse man voice?

>>44028974
i'm getting vfs in a month because i suck at voice training and i'm hoping at least vfs will give me the motivation to try

>>44032792

no my voice passes without having to voice train but it’s rly raspy and i can’t sing anymore :(

>>44028996
https://voca.ro/12l3hONQswcP
This is how I read your post in my head.

>>44032846
I low-key struggle with bulemic episodes still sometimes, and I'm so so so scared of what it will do to my voice

>>44032831
which type of vfs you getting? i kinda have same plan

>>44032965
ah i'm going to yeson so it's vfsrac

>>44032862
makes me wanna kill myself

>>44032862

obviously ur from the west coast

>>44033060
Why? Is my voice that bad...?

>>44033111

nona ur voice is beautiful

>>44033111
you pass well and it makes me feel shit because I'll never have a voice loke that

>>44032643
honestly no, but respectfully to nona >>44032862, imagining myself sounding like this makes me feel icky and gross

>>44028974
Yes but it's because voice training early in transition made me crash out really hard, since early transition was basically me forcefemming myself because I've been a stupid repper since 12.

>>44034797
Why is that?

>>44035390
talking like a girl feels like a tool to fit in, not something i ever really dreamed of. its just another form of the autistic masking social performance I've been doing my whole life. if i was born a girl with a girl voice and girl mannerisms, then sure i guess id be fine with it but id still be chasing some malebrained things.
honestly this might sounds a little too woke but the struggle of being trans is like the expectation of toxic masculinity and femininity doubled down

>>44028974
I've been voicetraining regularly for 5 months and my voice is not even one bit close to passing. I think I will be a forever voicehon and my male voice isnt even deep at all

>>44035534
I mean like if you had to choose between having boyvoice or girlvoice right now, what would you pick?

>>44028974
Am I just the weird one for caring infinitely more about how I look and sound than what name and pronouns people use for me? It doesn't really bother me to use a male name or pronouns as long as I look and sound like a girl so people think I am one automatically. The main thing that always felt like a dagger being driven into my heart was when family members called me handsome.

>>44028974
>voicetrain for 1-2 weeks
>sounds terrible, demotivated
>stop for a month
>try to voicetrain again
>it sounds better than last time
>repeat x10
anyone else?

>>44028974
i'm voicerepping but because i have a condition that makes it practically impossible to train

>>44035651
if i could magically have a girlvoice right now it would still be weird because im boymoding. if i had a perfect girlvoice once i started looking how i feel, it would be great to fit in, but i think might miss my boy voice. maybe, maybe not, idk. just feels weird to let go of what could be. lowkey if i had masculine vocal range with woman voice like ado that would be sick. i have the inverse problem of ado, like other nona said im reaching for the mickey mouse singsongy intonations for the "feminine" perception.

>>44035723
no I'm kinda like this but I also like looking like an in-between androgynous thing
I feel pretty and my personality is effeminate and friendly enough that people love me. How people pronoun me is not a big deal, I use whatever people are feeling. It's all about just being me and taking control of my life with hormones and hopefully orchi soon

My voice got lighter after hormones though without any training and I can't go as deep as I was before, so that probably has some effect

>>44035899
I mean once someone voice trains, they still have their guy voice, so you'd never lose it.
A lot of trans women have like a more fem "passing voice" that they use in public and dial it way back in private.
My point is that there's a long awkward phase in voice training where you sound weird and mickey mouse singsongy that you would eventually need to push through, and it's better to get that work done now in private before you go in public and eventually girlmode.

>>44036228
i think i realized after writing everything, im just self conscious about my voice being too high even as a guy, or really not being low. voicetraining and being a girl might never fix that. i dont sound faggy but the structure of my nasal cavity does make it weird to do woman voice. guess i need to go to an ENT huh.

>>44036228
physically, yes, you never lose your guy voice. but idk, in my experience, over time as i speak in girlvoice now as my default, i do find it difficult to change my vocal posture back down to guy mode. i still have it, but the muscle control is now something i have to consciously put effort into.

>>44036281
I mean I know plenty of trans women with passing, but low lesbian-coded voices
>>44036314
Yeah my voice gets really tired really quickly when I do guy voice, but like I definitely never lost it
There was a time when I was a voicepassing boymoder, and I was able to maintain both voices, but when I became a girlmoder, I stopped caring about my boyvoice

>>44036758
yeah, thats my point, i dont have that natural lower voice. thats my insecurity, if i had a lower voice honestly i might be okay with voice training.