>>44036627
I’m not even sure why it got so bad over there. Here in the US transgender issues are so polarized on a left vs right axis but it seems every party besides the SNP and the Greens is actively hostile to trans people

>>44036627
The removal of american funding from anti trans orgs.
The ADF (same people who removed abortion rights in the US) and other conservative american orgs are basically using the UK as a testing ground

Stricter laws around journalism, they should be prosecuted for lying and reposting old news if its not relevant

>>44036627
nuklear bombs might improve it

>>44036627
compared to a lot of other first world countries i think the UK is just too far gone to fix

>>44036627
Genocide the englishmen and rapefugees and give full control of the island to Ireland

>>44036627
sinking into the sea

>>44036657
This is what happens when the major left leaning party has the actual leftist elements amputated in favor of liberal authoritarianism

>>44036627
I don't think the UK can ever be humane, isn't the non-vegan population like 95% or something? they eat too much meat, and their immigrants love meat as well with the doner kebab on every corner and the shawarma.

Britain tried to adopt indian food to increase the number of vegetarians, but it just didn't work out the way we hoped, instead brits just eat curry and rice every once in a while

I think sadly its a foolish endeavour, but surprisingly India has a chance of becoming humane in this century, and Nepal and other small countries near it

>>44037042
that's what happens in a two party system, i think the problem is more cultural. we enjoy being miserable, we're like an island of sadists and it doesn't help everyone is simultaneously resistant to change but overwhelming choose not to express their opinions anywhere apart from telling eachother how much of a disgrace everything is. we're like a flower cut from its roots slowly withering away
>>44037150
it's probably higher than 95%, i don't know a single vegan out of everyone i've met
also most curries have some type of meat?

>>44036627
Remove LGBT, and everything will be fixed.

>>44036627
i assume you mean with trans issues but the reality is thats just the tip of the iceberg

the UK is only considered first world because of london, everything outside of it is more comparable to a second world shithole like romania. nobody has any money and everything is vey expensive. classism still remains and social mobility is limited. theres a crab in the bucket mentality that makes it very difficult to escape.

>>44037926
> Undercover CHUD
whats... undercover about it

>>44038638
i do mean with everything

>>44036627
Hopefully, Australia gets inspired by the tranny laws in the UK and America.

>>44036627
Wholesale genocide—total extermination of all human life in the UK—and re-settlement by a less evil culture, such as Brazilians

>highest energy bills on earth
>rape capital of europe
>highest cost of living in Europe
>only nation to have a LOWER GDP post covid
>most violent incidents in Europe
>96% of all crime goes unsolved
>40% of all murders go unsolved
>roads crumbling so badly the Victorian paving is visible underneath
>most expensive houses in Europe
>worst quality housing in Europe
>worst internet infrastructure in europe
>most cctv cameras outside of china
>government can freeze bank accounts at will
>police can enter any property without a warrant
>police can imprison you indefinitely if you forget your phone pin
>government can force you to sell your home at any time using a Compulsory Purchase Order
>emergency hospital waiting times are measured in days not hours
>average wait time to see a health specialist is 3 years
>dentistry being abolished

>force you to sell your home
implying you have one

>>44036627
I think Andy Burnham, the new PM, is much less evil than Starmer, although not perfect, so I hope things get a little better in the next few years. also it would be good if labour has to form a coalition with the Greens after the next election, and then they would be forced to do a lot more progressive policies

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>>44036657
Muzzies.
They imported so many that the retarded dems realized they had to become socially conservative to not lose forever.
It’s essentially an Islamic state.
The UK committed suicide.
The mayor of fucking London is a muzzie that helped his muzzie friends gangrape children with impunity for jihad.

>>44039088
Starmer
>the Supreme Court ruling must be implemented immediately, no if's, no but's

Burnham
>i have listened to the trans community, and i accept the full implementation of the supreme court judgment will be a scary and difficult time. Thats why it is important we implement it with the utmost compassion

>>44036627
It's no worse than any other western country. The only reason you focus on Britain is because you are ignorant of the other countries.

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>>44039141
if they change nothing in current policies the UK will hit 20% muzz by 2050. It’s terminal.

>>44039182
>>44039141
For context, the USA is around 1-1.5% muzz and there have already been multiple mass casualty anti-LGBT terrorist attacks (Pulse nightclub etc) and mafias and grooming gangs forming in some cities (Minneapolis etc).
Minneapolis is only 3% muzz and it’s already pretty much unsafe for females or LGBTs of any age.
London is FIFTEEN PERCENT MUZZ.

>>44039141
>>44039182
If "Muzzies" are so bad, how come nothing bad happens in Sweden or France, which has a higher "Muzzie" population?

>>44039141
Of course it's going to happen. The Democrats import Muslims to vote for them, and Muslims support LGBT because they don't lose anything by feminizing the Western men. But hey, the majority of the LGBT community are leftists who voted for it, so they must like it. The only real winners of this are the trans community because if a man identifies as a woman, it's not a sin in Islam, at least in Shia Islam. Lesbians will always remain the dumbest part of this. It's hilarious how outflanked they are by the other freaks. I will never understand how any woman let alone a lesbian support transgenderism.

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>>44039440
Bro that one weird place that transes gay guys is not a muzz thing or a pro-trans thing. The invaders want all this shit to be illegal because they have the same fear of the schools socializing their children to not be retarded barbarians that evangelicals do. They are why youth transition is targeted so hard. All backwards retards want to get rid of the public school system in general because education tends to de-indoctrinate their kids.

>>44039520
Are you implying Islam is bad?

>>44036627
International proletarian revolution

>>44039551
No, I’m saying it’s bad. Same with all forms of religious schizophrenia.
Religious “people” need to be barred from any public office, never allowed to immigrate into the country, and any with children need to be constantly monitored by CPS because of their epidemic rates of pedophilia and child abuse.

>>44039168
See
>>44039008

>>44039440
Trans rights and womens rights go hand in hand

>>44036627
Kill the treacherous elites, deport the Muslims, ban perfidious American and Israeli funding and influence

>>44039629
Yeah no. To be honest to everything that exists, I'm a moderate Balkan guy (even though I like conservatives lately). Here in 4chan I'm serious when I write, but my engaging in the topics is just side fun. You can't tell me with a straight face that transgenderism is good for women. You literally turned this into the most objectifying sexual shit invaded women's spaces (CIS women, to not confuse you) and sports. If my memory serves me, there was a transgender brownish boxer in the Olympics. I don't watch the Olympics; I don't know much. He had a blue sports uniform and told the cis woman that he was going to win because he is a man and smiled at her.

>>44039718
Your memory does not serve you

>>44039718
>If my memory serves me

It does not serve you.

Anti trans organisations also anti abortion, anti womens rights.

Trans rights and womens rights go hand in hand

>>44039749
Ok, I dug into it. The sparring partner of Imane Khelif, Joana Nwamerue, has admitted that Khelif said in their private sparring session this: "I'll smash you now because I am a man…" Her behavior was different in private than in public. So I'm not entirely wrong, but anyway, my point stands.

>>44039611
>>44039712
Trvke holy

>>44039820
Ok, then tell me, what is a woman in your eyes then? It's easy for me; a woman is an adult human female.

>>44039909
Do you think it makes any sense that Algeria, a place where it’s illegal to be transgender, would send a transgender boxer? Is every balkanoid this dumb?

>>44040032
>Is every balkanoid this dumb?
They are. They really, really are.

>>44040050
True, I'm a very dumb dumb Balkan guy who wants to take abortion rights away from trans women. XDDDDD. I'm sure trans women can get ovarian cancer too.

>>44036627
Nuclear annihilation.

>>44040050
Transgender people often claim that being a woman is a social construct. Ok then, if ‘woman’ is purely a social construct, then why do you need cross-sex hormones, blockers, surgery, and lifelong medical intervention to ‘become’ one?
Social constructs don’t require altering your skeleton, muscle mass, voice, or reproductive system. You’re proving the opposite: you recognize there are real, biological differences—which is why you try so hard to change your body to match the other sex.

>>44040196
i dont understand what you are trying to say
can you repeat your point

>>44040202
My point is that you can't be a woman without being a female; this is as short as possible. And in case you were the person calling me dumb, thank you for the compliment.

>>44040202
Also sorry I forgot to say that I also think because of this, transgenderism is the most anti-woman thing, and TERFs are very much in the right to be angry.

>>44040221
>>44040237
but what does this have to do with transgenderism
how are they related at all

>>44040246
It's pretty clear. I explained it very well. I'm not trying to be mean or smug about it; I just don't understand what you are asking of me. The person (a trans woman, I think) said that trans rights and women's rights go hand in hand. This is false because trans rights and women’s rights clash when biological males are given access to women’s single-sex spaces, sports, prisons, shelters, and changing rooms.
Women’s rights were built on the recognition that females need protected spaces and fair categories because of biological differences. Allowing males into those categories takes away women’s rights to safety, privacy, and fair competition. You cannot expand rights for one group by removing rights from another. Also, she said "abortion," which is funny because how can a trans woman have an abortion?

>>44040292
you're just repeating stufff

>>44040292
>Women’s rights were built on the recognition that females need protected spaces and fair categories because of biological differences.
No. This is just regurgitated talking points. Womens rights was not about creating separate spaces originally, and the places that segregate sexes the most have the most conservative attitudes towards women

>>44040319
That’s historically inaccurate.
Women’s rights movements fought for single-sex spaces precisely because of male violence and physical differences.Modern women’s rights still include the right to privacy, safety, and fair competition in areas where biology matters.It's clear you are not engaging me in good faith, which is sad because I really put effort in right now.

>>44040373
I'm fighting for single race spaces
Race is by far a much better predictor of violence than biological sex

>>44036627
We need to start a gofundme or something to sink the entire bastard island into the sea, it can’t be fixed

>>44040382
Like white and brown(or more precisely)? And can't we just have both then?

>>44040382
But anyway, I made my points; they didn't fight them at all. They even tried to play dumb too. I wouldn't mind becoming someone like Charlie Kirk, but some trans person may come and end me for being correct. Keep in mind I'm a very chill dude, but trans people like these really radicalize me.

>>44040373
Women's rights movements actually fought to abolish men's only spaces

>>44040479
Look, I will say it like this. It depends. Is biology involved? If yes, then separate; if not, then not. Do you also want no separate prisons? Obviously I generalize here a lot, but you can't be real with me right now. Is this what they call rage bait?

>>44040479
Yeah well it's a movement of hypocrite female supremacists

>>44039949
>a woman is an adult human female.

This is a circular definition. What makes someone an adult human female?

>>44040509
Do you think prisons being segregated by sex was a hard fought feminist victory? Lol

>>44040387
>start a gofundme

How many nukes?

>>44040509
Separate prisons and whatnot were normalized long before feminism. The "creation of women's spaces" from feminism is basically economic carveouts and the elimination of de jure men-only social spaces.

Anything else is revisionist drivel.

>>44040609
It’s not circular—it's a biological definition based on objective reality. An adult human female is a member of the human species who: Developed the reproductive anatomy organized around producing large gametes (ova / eggs) and has the chromosomal and developmental pathway typical for that sex (usually XX, though DSDs exist as rare disorders). This is how biologists define sex in every sexually reproducing species on Earth. It’s not circular — it’s grounded in reproductive function and developmental biology. ‘Woman’ is simply the adult form of human female. That’s been the standard definition for centuries across languages and cultures. If you think this definition is circular, then tell me: What is your definition of ‘woman’ that doesn’t ultimately rely on or try to imitate female biology?

>>44040638
I know because people were thinking back in the days, it seems.

>>44039008
wait,
>dentistry being abolished
are you joking? like really? thats genuinely fucking hilarious if true

>>44040609
You saying this is a circular definition is such a bad-faith thing that it makes me want to sell off my biometric data to Palantir in exchange for you to be smited by their orbital bombardment cannon.

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>>44040729
Careful, they may shoot you. My heart goes out to the TERFs. Sorry, idk what you are; it's the first time hearing "Labrys." Is that a Viking axe?

>>44036627
Wayyyyyyy less non whites

>>44040776
Has a terf ever been shot for her beliefs?

>>44040891
In other threads here on 4chan, I've seen people constantly talking about how they want to kill or punch TERFs, so I will assume at least one was hurt in some form. Idk probably the chances are never zero. I said it in a comedic connection to Charli kirk.

>>44040918
True, charlie kirk and terfs are politically aligned. Good observation

>>44040931
I genuinely have a question for you. Do you all here have selective reading? Did your head really absorb nothing from this discussion? Objectively, biologically, scientifically, and logically, transgenderism is the most anti-woman thing to happen in the 21st century.

>>44040948
Ok well i disagree with you. I think roe v wade getting repealed was a lot worse than trans people existing

>>44040891
https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/intimidation-threats-and-violence-by-trans-rights-activists/

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>>44041034
So no. More than half of these are just counter protestors being mean

>>44041024
Yeah, it's bad, but definitely not worse because hating rape and preventing it are usually something standard and normalized in society, and you can counterplay them, while transgenderism is not. You will get canceled, and you will fight against men in sports. Also, there is a funny thing: trans women commit more sexual crimes against women (cis women, as you call them) per capita. So you will still get graped if there are enough of them. So transgenderism is like rape but with extra steps.

>>44039292
>how come nothing bad happens in Sweden or France
LMAO

>>44041115
>trans women commit more sexual crimes against women (cis women, as you call them) per capita.
Incorrect. Post your source or be damned to hell.

>>44041141
That is one with a small correction. I didn't mean to say they rape more than men; I think it's about the same. The idea is that in UK prisons trans women are overrepresented in sexual harassment.https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/

>>44036627
a complete demographic and cultural revolution, outlawing the class system and the monarchy, and the assets seized used to hire culinary advisors from france and italy to instruct the locals that jellied eels are not food.

>>44041141
I also think there was a Swedish study, but I'm not sure. The Dhejne 2011 Swedish study. this one i dont think it was pure sex crime

>>44041223
The dhejne study is not your ally
> Dhejne: The individual in the image who is making claims about trans criminality, specifically rape likelihood, is misrepresenting the study findings. The study as a whole covers the period between 1973 and 2003. If one divides the cohort into two groups, 1973 to 1988 and 1989 to 2003, one observes that for the latter group (1989 – 2003), differences in mortality, suicide attempts, and crime disappear. This means that for the 1989 to 2003 group, we did not find a male pattern of criminality.

>As to the criminality metric itself, we were measuring and comparing the total number of convictions, not conviction type. We were not saying that cisgender males are convicted of crimes associated with marginalization and poverty. We didn’t control for that and we were certainly not saying that we found that trans women were a rape risk. What we were saying was that for the 1973 to 1988 cohort group and the cisgender male group, both experienced similar rates of convictions. As I said, this pattern is not observed in the 1989 to 2003 cohort group

https://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm

>>44041219
>>44040387
>>44040620
>>44040125
>>44036996
What's with the islamophobic vibes here? crazy

>>44041263
I don't remember everything, bro. You asked me; I answered, and I told you that I may be wrong. I think the study included more suicide and mortality rates in the swedish one.

>>44041289
What?! The nukes are for the entire country.

.... i feel bad for the animals, they dont deserve to be nuked

>>44041289
If you don't like it, you can go to a Muslim country and stay there.

>>44041210
This one is just a bad and biased study that inflates numbers
>In a report by the Ministry of Justice, we discover there are currently a total of 70 trans prisoners (that’s different groups of trans people, not just trans women) held in 33 different prisons in England and Wales. This is the first and only official statistic on transgender prisoners in England and Wales.

>Yet the Fair Play for Women report somehow comes to a conclusion that there are 113 trans women in prison in England and Wales.

>In the report by the Ministry of Justice, there is also no information at all on what type of offences the identified trans prisoners are doing time for. Even the charity Fair Play for Women states: “There is no official information published on the type of offences committed by (transgender women) inmates”.

>Yet out of these mystical 113 trans women in prison, they conclude that 46/113 (or 41 per cent) are sex offenders based on the units they are placed in. They make the blatant judgement that all those housed in eight prisons in the UK (Ashfield, Bure, Isle of Wight, Littlehey, Rye Hill, Stafford, Usk and Whatton) are sex offenders.

> In fact, a quick search on the Ministry of Justice website shows that only five of the eight prisons house only sex offenders, and most are Category C prisons housing vulnerable prisoners. As an example, one of the prisons that the researcher claims hosts only sex offenders, the Isle of Wight Prison, has also vulnerable prisoners and ordinary prisoners in mixed units since 2010 according to the Ministry of Justice.

https://www.the-independent.com/voices/41-per-cent-trans-transgender-trans-women-prisoners-sex-offenders-false-study-statistic-this-is-why-a8072431.html

>>44041320
>The nukes are for the entire country.
Yeah? What the hell. Animals? Wow you're RACIST racist huh.

>>44041297
You don’t remember anything your brain is just talking points in talking points out with no critical thinking

>>44041346
Like the earlier science-based points I made? Don't worry, bro; I'm not going to stop you from being a freak. I can't and I don't care.

>>44041320
god, the world might lose the poor endangered welsh

>>44041333
Yeah, nuke the UK. Evacuate the animals first, i love dormice

>>44041346
And at the end of the day, the libtarded women voted for this shit anyway. Women in my country don't vote for LGBT, and we don't have problems with that; it doesn't concern me.

>>44041362
I know you won’t, you’re never even gonna come near my country. Just wanted you to know that you’re dumb

>>44041393
Ok, trans "woman," be careful to not get pregnant.

>>44041397
Sure thing balkan “person”

>>44036627
complete and total dismantling of the state and its replacement with a dictatorship of the tranny proletariat.

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>>44039292
>how come nothing bad happens in Sweden or France

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>>44036627
Estrogen Over the counter

>>44043293
>a dictatorship of the tranny proletariat.

Hehehe

>>44036627
a nuclear winter

>>44036627
mass deportation

>>44036627
Nuremberg 2 against the journos

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>>44037277
>that's what happens in a two party system
and I bet TPTB paid a lot of 350gorillion busses to make sure it stays that way back in '11

The human leadership all die in unrelated skiiing accidents while their phones, pcs, and offices all remain unlocked.
A series of 20 year olds who all miraculously have avoided learning anything about human governance over the last 10 thousand years find their information and all simultaneously decide to coordinate a take over without coordinating with each other.

No one finds out anything happened. It just gets better and people's attention shifts to TV and movies.

Have a tranny run on and win an election campaign of deporting anyone who immigrated to uk in last 15 years

>>44036627
Oliver Cromwell 2

>>44039292
Uhhh are you dumb? Bataclan had over 100 people die in horrifically gruesome ways

>>44039008
>>government can force you to sell your home at any time using a Compulsory Purchase Order

Anon that's standard in 'liberal' democracies, private property rights basically don't exist. I've even seen some pedo worshiping freaks from Europe complaining that its too hard to build stuff here.

Our countryside is being demolished for unnecessary houses while the corporate bootlickers demand even more house building.

>>44046940
but anon if we don't build more houses how are we (not you btw) going to drink from the never ending spring of magically appearing value coming from owning property??

start with the journalists, almost all uk journalists are old money sickos

Ban islam
Ban hyperfeminism
Imprison the upper class

>>44036627
they need a springtime of the people. alternatively, they can just bring back gladstonian liberalism, who was woke as hell apart from his early stumbles with the slavery debate.

Isn't King Charles pretty pro-trans? It should be getting better, no?

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>>44036627
>watching tiktoks of British people coming to America
>they're crying over the taste of food and portion sizes
you just need to come with us now

>>44048811
who give a shit about the King?

>>44048909
I cried when i got pizza in Belgium

Felt like seeing in colours for the first time

>Country experiences the same economic and political problems as Europe in general
Ok
>They speak the same language as the screechiest troons
GENOCIDE ALARM