im getting ffs very soon, and i'm going to go from semipassing freakhon to a fulltime passer. i want to go stealth, or at least only known as the passoid tranny in my circle. i've decided to just get a new job in a different city when the healing is done and cut off all contact with everyone except my immediate familystealthanons, how were you outed? any tips?
>>44043561>how were you outed?The most crucial things you have to look out for is medical context and family. I'm a stealth trans woman and people in medical fields might count one and one together. For example: My dad had a heart attack and went into a coma. I was visiting him every day and the staff just assumed he had two children. Me as a daughter and my brother as his son. When he would wake up he was having amnesia and told the staff after being asked about his children that he doesn't have a daughter but two sons. This combined with the staff overhearing a conversation between my mom and another family member at the hospital about that only one of their children can have biolocial children. The staff counted one and one together and asked my brother if I'm trans. This seemingly spread like a wildfire in the hospital and I was eyeballed like crazy the next time I went to visit him. So something it's just a matter of unlucky circumstances combined
>>44043671sorry that happened nona, hope it didnt cause issues beyond that. my family lives pretty far from me so even if something like this happened it probably wouldnt spread to my day to day. good to know though
>>44043682It's fine, don't worry nona :)The hardest part is just that I can't visit my dad in the hospital without feeling like a circus attraction now. Thank god it's also not in the town were I live but being outed still feels really shitty no matter what.I hope you will be more lucky and wont have a problem! <3
>>44043561other trannies, theyfabs and terminally online terfs can often clock other trans women off surgery scars and other factors, or at least will have their suspicions. unless you're a youngshit, you probably aren't going to be 100% stealth. it's kind of brutal because you may be assuming you're stealth for a long time where in reality, some people may be at least suspicious of it and just not saying anything. i think stealth is only if you manage to reach a point where everyone would genuinely be surprised if they found out you were trans
>>44043737this is why I HRT rep
>>44043744it's not so bad because even if someone is 80-90% sure you're trans, social pressure will still likely force them to never approach it directly unless an appropriate time comes up. if it's at work, with coworkers, such time is just likely to never occur, which leads many trans women to just assume they're stealth at work because in most cases, it's such a faux pas to make a mistake of assuming that a cis woman is trans (on top of being potentially discriminatory). theyfabs however, have discovered several cheat codes for approaching this head on including things like "what are you pronouns? oh don't worry, i ask everyone that!", which is basically the same as "clocked you, hon". i think it may be different in countries that are absolutely schizo about trans people like the uk where any cis woman with clocky features is assumed to be trans by a terf until proven otherwise, which leads to clocky terfs pre-emptively going on the offensive about their womanhood
>>44043737This is true but it wont happen as often as this board might make it seem. If you avoid going to support groups, pride events or making friends in giga woke circels this wont really be a problem. Biggest concern is when you would have a visibal trans woman as your coworker. But the chance for this is also low but never zero. The terf might be a thing but its just as unlikely as the trans coworker. Sure they might clock you on the street when you walk by but the chance that they out you in your day to day life is slim if you don't have to interact with them daily>>44043785Also this. This can be greatly reduced by avoiding pride events and stuff like this like the pest
>>44043737>other trannies, theyfabs and terminally online terfs can often clock other trans womentbf they also end up clocking other cissies about the 90% of stuff that is plausible for cisoids too, so just do what a (well adjusted adult mature) cissie would do
Stealth isn't possible anymore.Idk I'm not sure but I'm convinced I get clocked lately when that didn't use to happen The bar is so much higher and even if we manage to look like in the range of cis women we will only manage to be in the range of like 20% of cis women who do get clocked because everyone is so tranny crazy
In graduate school I was stealth for a long time but it got tiring so I eventually let the mask slip a bit with certain people and I imagine word gets around. But being stealth is really lonely. And you often have to isolate people who knew you as a trans person from new people you meet and you never know who might slip up after a few drinks and out you. But the loneliness thing is hard too. You can never talk about your struggles as a trans person again, and you can't really have trans friends. That sounds nice but it can be really isolating after a few years. I still don't have any irl trans friends and I live in NYC.
>>44044889plausible yeah, but it's a combination of things. for example if you have a trach shave scar but are otherwise mostly passing but have some measurements that are enough for a mere suspicion, like that's gonna be really bad. i clocked another trans woman based off a trach shave scar being visible in a photo with flash, like i was 60% sure she was trans already but this has just confirmed it for certain. and the worst thing is that i was right because she came out as publicly trans years later after supposedly being "stealth" but i knew that she was trans for ages, i just didn't really say anything. i've actually been incredibly insecure about my ffs scars because of this and i think they just basically add to the reasons i can't be stealth for. i also have big hands and a big head, combine that with the scars and to someone who had a lot of opportunities to look at me in person, if they were trying to work out if i was trans or not, they probably would clock me. it's just that most people don't set out with an explicit goal of clocking trannies so they wouldn't be looking for those things>>44044901>Stealth isn't possible anymoreyeah especially in countries like the uk. if you live in a country that's crazy about trannies, to be stealth without being a youngshit gigapassoid, you'd probably have to move somewhere that isn't familiar with trannies
>>44044969>yeah especially in countries like the uk. if you live in a country that's crazy about trannies, to be stealth without being a youngshit gigapassoid, you'd probably have to move somewhere that isn't familiar with tranniesLol yeah Scandinavia also sucks for this fkn wokoids ruining stealth pfffft
>>44043737Even "youngshits" don't pass to 100% of people, the majority probably don't pass to even 50% and get the uncanny valley vibe. Jeez, you can tell that some people try, and then my mother will look at me and say something, lmfao. She has no filter and says what other people think.>>44043785>social pressure will still likely force them to never approach itUnless you are a creep or make people uncomfortable, then true. We just give each other a look and joke about it later.>a cis woman is trans Usually, it is after menopause or if a woman isn't conventionally attractive, or it is said as an insult.>>44044889>clocking other cissiesNah>>44044901>Stealth isn't possible anymore.Agree, but was it ever possible? I feel like you guys got lax on it, even Alex Constani is clocky lmfao
>>44045495>terftard being a tardtouch grass pls incelnona, getting buttmad at literal gender cripples isn't a healthy coping method
>>44045540Nope, I can't get mad at the irl troon creeps because I'll get hurt more than just dealing with regular ol sexual harassment from them. So I am attacking them at the source. " Gender cripples" so you admit it, lmfao
>>44045661>no you dont understand i must get bootyblastedtouch grass, be among real people, that will cure your neurosis. you're a woman, you weren't built to doomscroll in a concrete prison all day and get ragebaited by xitter>Gender cripples so you admit itlol do you think troids want to have the 'phoria lmao look at this noob
>>44044919this. i could probably stealth by this point but ive come to be sceptical if i even should. being trans is my lived experience, why should i sacrifice the ability to be as my authentic self and say the things i wanna say even if they out me, for what? to hide who or what i am? out of shame? and then have to live with the constant fear that im outed and the entire house of cards id built collapses and i discarded my pre-transition friends for nothing?fuck that. i WANT to go to pride, i WANT to have trans friends, i WANT to talk about my experiences and whine about my insecurities to my friends and acquaintances, i WANT to shoo away an unwanted suitor by telling him i have a cock and then laugh about it with my friends. besides, id be giving up the tgirl swag that theyfabs are dying to emulate just to be a mid woman with a terrible secret. being trans sucks sometimes but i think obsessing about stealth only makes it worse
>>44043785yeah idk I'm a heighthon (6'2) so stealth is unfortunately impossible for me. I'll just hrt rep
>>44044969This makes me feel better for not having any visible incisions from surgery >>44046076Being a mid woman with a terrible secret is exactly how I felt for so long. But it's just sooooo fun to drop a "tranny" with the hard y in front of normie bi girls with straight boyfriends or to pull the troon card to win an ideological argument or other sort of woke-off.
>>44043737are liplifts clocky if youre not white?
>>44046218lmao yeah being a tranny is like a hitler card in oppresion olympic arguments with wokoids, and i love dropping the slur in a funny moment. we are soul sisters im sure
>>44043671What kinda shit ass hospital is that where they'd ask someone a question like that? That could be a media case here
>>44046372i was thinking about that too, i cant imagine a nurse or a doctor just walking up to me when im seeing my dad in the hospital, just to ask if my sister is trans to satiate their own personal curiosity. like you could and should get fired for doing that on the job
>>44043737i find it easier to clock youngshits than post FFS trannies, especially if the youngshit used blockers. AMABs can have bone masculinization starting as early as 9if you have a good voice, arent taller than 180 cm, and have had FFS, there's a high chance that youre unclockable, at least physically. obviously, people can still pick up on things here and there socially and eventually clock a stealth tranny
>>44046504Nta but I had nurses insult me when I wa in ICU
>>44046372>>44046504I get what you mean. I'm not the person to throw a tandrum about it but it still fucks me up. They probably just wanted to feel like sherlock holmes or some shit and wants to get off on how supportive and open minded they are.They probably are jerking each other on how inclusive they are or stuff like this while in reality it just created a hell for me. Like they all now probably know that I'm a fucking tranny and like that wasnt enough they also know my fucking deadname because because my dad told them when he would talk about his two sons. This probably did spread like a fucking disease (pun intended).Now I can't go there and visit my dad because everytime I'm there I just feel like the main circus attraction.Remember. Cissies are not our friends.
>>44046218>This makes me feel better for not having any visible incisions from surgerywell, things like coronal incisions aren't exactly invisible if you know to look for them, i thought mine wasn't that noticeable but my friend noticed it (though again, she knew what to look for and knew i had ffs)>>44046526>if you have a good voice, arent taller than 180 cm, and have had FFS, there's a high chance that youre unclockablei do wonder how clockable i really am irl, but it is genuinely hard to get a good idea of how clocky your face and body is in isolation. i wish to eventually try going stealth but i still often feel it's mostly my face that's holding me back
>>44046526I'm a midshit with ffs and I am 5'6. I am sure that someone who is interested transvestigating me can trivially figure it out if they are friends with me especially if they visit my apartment. >>44046822Yeah the coronal incision is the most visible thing I have, I don't have a trach shave scar and I have two small points on my neck that just look like other blemishes I have in the area. I've actually only had one person ask me about it and she thought I had brain surgery lol
>>44046880oh, who did you go to for ffs? was it db? i know that the two point scars on your neck are usually from db but i think some other surgeons may also do it
>>44046946Yes lol I didn't know it was a db thing. That's cool
