How can I convince an extremely depressed manmoder who has been doing it for a very long time to understand that she can pass and get her to put effort into her life?
just tell her?offer to help?i am a manmoder myself and would love it if anyone even cared to think about me like that, that i could pass and stuff
>>44046214I've told her and offered to help many times
>>44046194ask her what would it take for her to change her mind. if she says "nothing," then it sounds like everybody is wasting their time
i wish someone would care about me like that :(
>>44046194how old is she?
>>44046194i would also like to know this
>>44046257You need to make friends :(>>44046259In the lower 30s
>>44046194you can't, putting work into trying to help people who don't want to help themselves doesn't work,,,, it's sad but it's best to just leave them alone
>>44046194>to understand that she can passYou know this how?
>>44046194Some ppl are just lost causes and can't get bettert. lost cause
>>44046221What the hell? If someone told me they'd help, then I'd probably do it even if I thought they were hugboxxing about the passing part. You can't bring a horse to water at some point, it sounds like she doesn't actually want to socially transition ever.
>>44046356She told me that she's been sad and hopeless for so long that she's lost the ability to even imagine herself as a woman anymore and she's just a dead husk. It makes me really sad.
>>44046341this>>44046369at some point we just mentally give up. we just don't have the drive to bother trying anymore
>>44046452I can't give up on her
>>44046463then don't, just don't expect it to be easy
>>44046194I don't have a good answer, i'm so far gone at this point i ask myself the same question and don't have an answer. Short of winning the lotto, ghosting my terf wife and being a hermit in a city while i work on myself. Keep trying for her, though. Please. A lot of us die because we have no one and no hope.
>>44046194i dont really have any advice but thank you for being such an amazing friend. more ppl deserve an advocate like you!!
Physically hang out with her and make her feel okay with herself regardless of how she looks.
>>44046194Did you force them to watch the tadc finale?
>>44046194>she can pass and get her to put effortThe fact that she "can" pass and she has to put effort for it will force her into manmodding, half of the world doesn't have to "pass" nor put effort into the goal of "passing". I wish you good luck anon.
>>44046194My biggest fears of transition at 30 are not getting my bald spot hair back and thus never ever passing, and ruining my career>>44046502>ghosting my terf wife Huh? What’s the story here?
>>44046194>convince?you dont? theyre already on hrt?
>>44046194some people dont respond to external help, sometimes it's something that just needs to happen in their own mind in their own time and nothing you can say can help them until they make that mental change
>>44047003I married a terf afab. Repressing has absolutely brutal consequences sometimes.
>>44046194are you really sure she could pass? If she wasn't a twink or prettyboy before trooning I seriously doubt it.
Silence 3’s, an 8 is talking. Btw, not wallowing here in the mud with you. You’ll fight us on fair terms 1 vs. 1 in the DMZ.
