>ftm media is an absolute cesspit since forever>absolutely without exception presented as women that act like women and almost always played by cis women>boys don’t cry literally reframes a real life ftm that was killed for being ftm as a lesbian>3 generations is one of the most transmisandrist abortions ever created>the only half decent one, the blacklist, was blocked from even revealing the ftm as ftm by executives — in the 2020s, when any mtf character would never be blocked>ftms don’t complain about or even really talk about this because lmao who cares>meanwhile, mtt media>almost always sympathetic, often played by cis women>essentially always act like and are treated like women>one (1) thing comes out where this isn’t the case and the character is disliked>mtts melt down and flood the board about it for weeksHoly shit GET OVER YOURSELVES
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>>44047158And if your black ftm there's maybe 2 characters total to relate to, and they are not protagonistsBut honestly... I would rather have 0 representation than a Jax + every mtf character pre 2007 being a joke every time... Mtfs won this one.
>>44047186Even jax is intended to be sympathetic and beloved. It’s just that it was made by a horrible person so they didn’t realize normal people don’t like horrible people.>pre 2007There’s nothing wrong with that. Comedy is neutral.
not bullying pooners off this board back in 2020 was a mistake
>>44047224Amazing how people claiming to be women still have fragile masculinity
>>44047158pain, brother.
>>44047158>in the 2020s, when any mtf character would never be blockedsageg
>>44047220(barry goldwater voice) black people have it so good dude look at all the art we make of them
>>44047220>Comedy is neutral.Yeah, if the same person isn't the butt of the joke every time. It either gets old or predictable, the audience craves more.>>44047224If you're here, you're here forever
we dont deserve representation. we shouldnt even exist
>>44047158>often played by cis womenlmao noholy shit this basically never happensThe average MtF rep is played by Walton Goggins
>>44047158The vast majority of self-proclaimed ''ftms'' are women who act and think and look like women sooo, I guess you could ask your community to be less womanly before complaining to us. But desu that is a fairly masculine move from you so good job dude.
>>44047158sorry ftm media sucks but i honestly dont think you've seen enough shitty MTF media if the first thing that comes to mind is Jax and not Buffalo Bill
there's literally NOTHING stopping you from making media with ftm characters that don't suck
>waaa waaaa why don't i get any fictional blorbos this is so unfair i'm literally being oppressed terfs were right waaaaa >:'(((>>44047224TRVKE
>>44048299omg somebody named a human being walton goggins youre kidding
>>44048286>we shouldnt even existWhy're you pretending to be us?
>>44047158we arent meant ot have representation
>>44047224You retards sure tried
>>44048366WORSEHe's Walton Goggins Jr
>>44048286You're a theyfab, not a pooner.Stop projecting your internalised issues onto us
The closest trans man representation we are to is of a sitcom character coming out as transmasc, then procceeding to never do any to actually transition and then for everybody to forget it actually happened. It would be framed as woke and brave because even though she (pronouns have no gender) came out as transmasc her friends never discriminated her and respected her identity.This would be celebrated by all of Twitter and Tumblr.
>>44048447This is the Malcolm in the Middle revival btw
>>44048333I used to say this until I realized "make your own" = make a webtoon or comic (most people don't read those)
>>44047158What are those medias played by cis women? Also it's not out fault ftm creators see themselves like womenlite
>>44048459isn't that character nonbinary
>>44048390What's the difference?
>>44048467>Degrassi>the person who played Brandon Teena probably>The L word ftm?
>>44048468Yes but wokistan media doesn't see the difference
>>44047158>Waa waa, I want more FtM rep, waa waaGet over yourself. How can you call yourself a man and whine about the lamest shit?
>>44048633I don’t want it or care. Damn, learn to read.
>>44048633Too performative
>>44048309you could say the same about mtfs and you faggots would cry and cry and cry about transmisogyny and call us terfs
>>44048390No from what I gathered he is a pooner, he is just too dysphoric and he feels too illegitimate to call himself a man and to take T...
>>44048738even gamestophon is trying harder at transition than the average ftm lmao>faggotsafabs *really* want a pass for that one huh
>>44048309Go outside and you'll discover that your assessment is obviously wrong.Cissexuals apart, there are more trans women who are terminally malebrained and absurdly misogynistic than there are fembrained trans men.
>>44048309>The vast majority of self-proclaimed ''ftms'' are women who act and think and look like tims
>>44047220>Even jax is intended to be sympathetic and beloveddid you watch the show?
>>44048815I am not talking about "real life" here. I am talking about the kind of people who care about "representation" and other fandomite bs, the ones who exist on the internet. The ftm "representation" that would bring in the most money to q creator would be a non transitioning hefab to whom fandomites can relate to.
>>44048833Clearly not. Jax is meant to be pitied as a cautionary tale.
>>44048807there are just as many retarded gocky wocky sloppy toppy dommy mommy brickhons whos interests are limited to warhammer and league of legends as there are bluehaired yaoi reading obese pubestached ftms but you cocksuckers are ashamed of this so youre trying to gaslight the public into thinking this isnt the case >afabs *really* want a pass for that one huhi dont need a pass i say whatever slurs i want, this isnt tumblr
>>44048848>I am not talking about "real life" here>The vast majority of self-proclaimed ''ftms'' are womenNo you did not, you were talking about ftms as a whole.>I am talking about the kind of people who care about "representation"That's literally a concern for every single social minority ever to get betterly represented in arts and media to raise awarness and empathy towards them?When trans men characters are played by cis women, it's an issue because it shows to normies that transidentity is justg playing dress-up/being a full-time drag king.
>>44048807faggot faggot faggot, suck a shotgun mtt
>>44048954so edgy! did that feel good?
>>44048850>mfw i read "pitied" as "pilled"shoot me
transmisandry isn't real, men passively reinforce the patriarchy regardless of whether they're trans or not, just because you can't handle the existence of transfeminism doesn't mean you're entitled to anything more than what cis men deserve.
>>44048972He's cautionarytalepilledHe's an aesopmoder>>44048961
>>44048961Idk, does trying to be slur policeman on the mongolian basket weaving forum feel good?
>>44048988So what is the "ftm bad" word? Transmisogyny?
>>44048988Trans men still suffer from patriarchal cisnormative society, hence "transmisandry".Trans men are literally getting R'ed and experimented on in American prisons https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/04/17/trans-people-prison-medical-experimentation/
>>44049108trans men are getting detransed in prisons, which is obviously wrong, but it is nothing like what trans women face with v-coding
>>44049108Some of that is what they might call "isomisogyny" Transmisandry makes sense as a term for discrimination that comes from being trans men and seen as men to mirror transmisogyny, not just de-gendering transphobia.
>>44049108Trans men earn more than any demographic except for cis men
>>44049120>>44049130>but trans women suffer moreNot >>44048988's point which was about trans men not facing any discrimination whatsoever>>44049127Exactly
>>44048815>ftm not being gigafembrained
>>44049141You clearly haven't met any ftm in your life (i'm once again not talking about cissexuals)
>>44048954Ok dyke
>>44049146I have I'm in those circles constantly as a ftm myself. Problem with people like OP is the need to be the center of attention and victimhood when the default male experience is sucking it up
>>44049164fembrained ftms are still less prevalent than malebrained misogynistic mtfs
>>44049164>default male experience is sucking it upCis men just be bots, I wouldn't follow that herd
>>44049176I think it depends on how you define MtF and FtM tbhon.
>>44049151Ok disease vector
>>44049194I was only talking about non-cissexual (= dysphoric) trans men and trans women. Non-dysphoric "trans" women and men are so different from cissexuals they shouldn't get put into the same bag
>>44049217>Non-dysphoric "trans" women and men are so different from cissexuals I messed up, I meant>Dysphoric trans women and men are so different from cissexuals
>>44049164Op never asked for attention>ftms don’t complain about or even really talk about this because lmao who caresHe's making an observation about the board, improve your reading comprehension
>>44049249We're minorities in the board of course our issues won't be talked about as much
>>44049386Wow you can’t readThe core observation isn’t “not enough ftm whining” but “too much mtt whining”
>>44050519Clearly the people ITT have severe reading comprehension problems.
>>44047158Hahaha you will never under any circumstances ever have a penis haha poon poon no penis ever
>>44050524For real
