>>44056869
its the smell

I shower every day and make sure im 100% hairless so i dont smell of anything but soap and deodorant

>>44056869
I reposted your thread to rdrama lol
https://rdrama.net/h/ghosttown/post/824839/i-think-the-cisoids-are-starting

>>44056869
hmmm… No little titties?? have u ever given her a hug she might have felt the bumps

>>44058366
unc site for people who love zohran mamdani

>>44058366
what is this place... WHO are these people

>>44058366
OH MY GOODNESS??? 23 UPDOOTS
may darwin bless your new karma

>>44058353
meant for >>44058264

>>44058398
I avoid touching or being near my cis coworkers at all times.

>>44058529
thats seriously spooky. u should just ask her

>>44056869
post a pic so i can verify if you are hawt pls

>>44058547
Yea we work the same shift tommorow
ill ask what she meant
i hope she just thinks im gay or something

>>44058560
im your standard middle class nerd-permutation african american male
i am not hot

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>>44058598
>standard
>hairless twink on estrogen
Lmao

>>44058651
i am 6'2'' with broad as fuck linebacker shoulders(literally my grandpa played in the nfl)

>>44058651
some darkskin black phenotypes are naturally very hairless particularly if there's not a lot of euro admixture - even if that's not op it's still not something most people would notice.
if lightskin it might be a bit odd

>>44058353
>100% hairless
well that’s probably how she figured it out lmao

Yea this is why being a boymoder long term is cringe, everyone can tell eventually and is like why you being such a weirdo about it.

She's probably trying to make you feel comfortable enough to stop it.

>>44059078
To be fair, her technique was shit. “happy pride” puts all the pressure on op that theyve been found out and offers v little help. She should have just made it clear that she was open to listen about anything OP had on her mind… it was too aggressive…

>>44059078
not true, i've been boymoding for 5 months in my friend group and geniuenly thought they'd clock me after tadc, but no cisoids are just clueless

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>>44059078
>Yea this is why being a boymoder long term is cringe, everyone can tell eventually and is like why you being such a weirdo about it.
not op but like I didn't wanna be a girl I just wanted to be prett(ier than I was before)
and I am but I'm like yeah dude fuck I think everyone knows now

>>44059114
girl 5 months is not a long time.

There is a thread up RN abiut a girl who hrtrepped for 8 YEARS.

so dw ur fine. just try to social transition before 2 yrs in

>>44059130
do u understand now that u were coping and are a girl and should socially transition?

>>44059291
I'm on hrt for 8m, but have my current friend group for 5m

>>44058598
sounds cute desu

>>44059354
still chill. i boymoded at work/ girlmoded at troon events rather than being a full boymoder, which i recommend to u, as it will greatly smoothen ur later social transition.

>>44059299
no. I don't feel like a girl and I don't know why I would want to

>>44059354
8 months is nothing lmao
t. 4 yr manmoder

>>44059479
how is ur dysphoria on a day to day basis rn?

>>44056869
only cissies celebrate pride so she clocked you as one of her own

>>44059453
nta, but what sort of trans events were you going to, at the time?

>>44059670
Ofc! So my city has a lgbt support group called PFLAG, which is in other cities too. The very first thing i did was go to one of those. then somebody there came up after group, introduced themselves, and invited me to a local trans social (literally look up [city name] trans social and decent chance something will pop up.


From there, u will meet everyone. Find the chill cool ppl ur age and get to know them. then they will start inviting u to the more underground/“in the know” events that u cant just search up online easily.

>>44059701
what if you live in the most conservative city in your country?

>>44059594
mostly not bad
I've been on hrt ~1.75 years and right now when I look at myself in the mirror it only hurts if there's something wrong that's not gendered (like a bad zit or my hair's fucked up)
occasionally someone in my life will take a candid picture of me and the way my face looks will make me lose it but I'm getting better at looking at my cis female friends in similar candids and realizing that I wouldn't want to look like them either (except for the very few wildly attractive ones and that's just not happening). and the things I dislike are mostly again not gendered; I think my face gets pudgy when I smile, my nose is a little big and my eyes are a little small (gendered-ish but that at least is something I just fix w/ makeup when I care)
mostly I'm pretty happy. I love my masculine voice; I get ma'am'd once in awhile even though I boymode and I like surprising people when I open my mouth and speak and they panic and go "oh sorry sir". I like my small boobs; they're not visible in basically any clothing but I like how they make my body look without it. I like that I can wear a crop top without muffin topping because I just have less abdominal fat at the same weight than I did 2 years ago. I never disliked my genitals and I don't now although scrotal hair is still the dumbest thing ever
I don't really want anything else out of my gender presentation but it does bother me that people are probably walking around going "hey look at that closet tranny" and by probably I mean I basically know that has happened at least once and it terrifies me for some reason

>>44059725
ummmmmmm then it becomes much much harder. u could maybe try finding trannies on tagmap. And idk, [cityname] trans might still get something if u searched it. Unless u are in algeria or something.

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>>44056869
I had some young cis female coworker when we were walking past some skirts say something weird like
>"anon do you think you'd look cute in one of those?" and I was so fucking autistically stunned that I just kinda mumbled something like
>"what oh yeah totally hahaha"

Not sure what would have tipped her off. I had a beard and medium length moid hair. I still think maybe she was just calling me a fag though. Fucking strange either way

>>44059756
Poland... there are just not that many trannies in my city. i know 1 tranny, 2 ftms and know of 2 other ftms and 1 other tranny, but never met them

>>44059748
Huh. Very interesting.
u sound cute

And yeah, the “seen as a boymoder” thing is tough. Idk how u would be able to consistently avoid that.


For the record- this did flip my assumption that u are repressing some “binary girl” dysphoria. the copers usually say something like “i dont deserve to be a woman”

>>44059787
im sorry nona… my burger mind cant comprehend so few trannies. There are like 3 working at my local grocery store

>>44059748
aww estrogen gave me more stomach fat </3

>>44059792
>For the record- this did flip my assumption that u are repressing some “binary girl” dysphoria
wow I changed someone's mind on 4chan I might actually frame this conversation
yeah I don't know what to do about it. in the instance where I know it's happened I could literally just tell the people involved I'm on hrt and they wouldn't give a fuck but it's awkward to talk about and it's even more awkward with my family who I'm pretty sure suspect - and would be supportive if I was just like "hey I'm a girl btw" but the actual explanation would just come off bewildering. I probably have to say something at some point to my immediate family at least but idk
to be clear I know this is first world problems relatively speaking. I have a lot of trans friends and I cannot fathom taking the psychic damage they do when they get misgendered or having to deal with genital dysphoria

>>44059808
did you gain weight overall/if you have more stomach fat do you at least have more curves throughout? I was like, ALL stomach fat before so there was nowhere to go but up from there

>>44059882
No I actually am a bit lighter and have less body fat according to one of those cheap inbody scanner things my gym has but my abs are gone and I have a bunch of chubby fat I can pinch

>>44059906
ohh ok you didn't gain weight but you were like actually lean before, I was never in my life anything but skinnyfat pre hrt
all in all I am probably in better shape today than I was before even independent of the hormones but the fat distro I saw in like the first 6 months apart from anything else

>>44059701
Ah, thanks for the info! I looked it up, and there is a chapter like 20 mins from me. It is a church, though, which is a little concerning... the next closest seems to be the same?
When you went there the first time, how did you present yourself? How many people were there, and what did you even do? (Sorry for all the questions, I've just never attended anything like that)
>>44059725
:(
I feel you. I don't live in the most conservative state in the US, but I do live in the most conservative county of my state :/
It's really jarring when a friend goes from super supportive with regards to work, health, or other miscellaneous topics only to turn around with insults towards trans people completely unprompted.
>>44059756
Have you had any good experiences with tagmap? I've checked it out for my area, and there are a few people my age, but I haven't reached out or anything. That's scary lol

>>44060014
i’m anons 1 and 3
To question 1: dont worry about it being in a church. Mine was too. It is a common thing for clubs and orgs to use church rooms as meeting spaces, there is no actual religious affiliation

On clothes: i did full girlmode.
part of the reason i even went, was to “prove to myself that i could handle it”. Basically i forced myself to do ‘real life test’ like doctors used to make us.
In my head, it would be cringier to be boymoding and say i was a trans woman, than to just go all out (but for the record, there were pre-everything trans ppl there wearing agab clothing)

-on 3: no, i have not used tagmap. i have seen mixed reviews. Some swear by it, some say it is fucked
Just make a discord alt for it. that way u can reach out w zero risk of being identified

>>44059291
>just try to social transition before 2 yrs in
why

>>44059882
>>44059792
wanna thank you btw I was spiraling earlier for no fucking reason and talking helped me realize I was being dumb as bricks

>>44060229
bc longer term boymoding is corrosive to the soul.

>>44060257
no problem at all!!! Best of luck nona. Im excited for u :))))

>>44060229
>>44060290
>bc longer term boymoding is corrosive to the soul.
wanna emphasize this since it isn't just a tranny thing
lying is bad for you, not like little white lies to make someone feel better or w/e, but keeping things that matter to yourself are going to ruin your fucking life. closeted gays know this too. hell, closeted anythings know this. cishets who've fallen out of love with their spouses know this. people who hate their jobs know this
the longer you let it go the worse it'll get and the more it'll show on your face and your body and it'll come out in how you interact with people. it will age you prematurely, you will become a worse person because either you will be short with people or the burden of interacting at all will make you more and more withdrawn
if you want to have a life you can stand you have to stop lying. there is no alternative

>>44059078
I've only been on hrt for like 7 months and was hon dosing myself for 4 months of that[spoiler]fucking 4 mg a week what the fuck is wrong with me??[/spoiler]

>>44059111
The only reason I'm sceeved out is because I'm [spoiler]27 years old fuck fuck my life[/spoiler] and I'd unironically quit my job and go get hired somewhere else if she clocked me somehow.

>>44060290
>bc longer term boymoding is corrosive to the soul.
im not sure how lol. The funny thing is that i'd probably be fine doing it, ive spent most of my life keeping everything I am under lock and key. [spoiler]my coworkers dont even know what day my birthday is.[/spoiler]

>>44060393
nobody tell nona spoilers don't work on /lgbt/

>>44060393
Comment above u explained p well how it corrodes the soul. You cant keep shrinking urself, it comes out in other ways.

>>44060080
Wow, I love your reasoning. It makes total sense (although I dunno if I could follow it myself... idk maybe a plausibly deniable girlmode xd maybe that's even worse idk)
Thank you again. I didn't know anything like that existed.
>>44060393
>ive spent most of my life keeping everything I am under lock and key.
Yeaaa... only "safe" things allowed!
>>44060433
>You cant keep shrinking urself, it comes out in other ways.
That quote is getting saved :D

>>44056869
>>44058264
Even before I came to this board or knew the word for it, I had a coworker that was a male on female hormones and pretty much everyone knew the entire time. Some of the stupider people thought he was intersex, but he had that whole quiet computer person energy, long hair that he took too good of care of, and his skin and face looked weird in a way that looked like he had low androgens/high estrogen.
Everybody knows and doesn’t care. Not in a supportive way, just literally don’t care. People generally avoided him both because of this and because he was asocial. I don’t think he would have been more avoided if he cross dressed too. He was already maximally avoided.

>>44060411
Wait wtf why not
i spent too much time on /vg/
spoiler tags are so useful as specialized context-senstive syntax

>>44060391
>>44060433
Eh, Ive pretty much mastered it.
My neighbors apparentrly really like me because im able to hold a long conversation about random thisandthats. At work I prefer to be taciturn, which is pretty easy since the store is pretty much always busy.The worst shit ever was one of my coworkers catching me liking a destiny 2 tweet when we were closing and having to spent the last 2 hours(and then the rest of the week afterwards) pretending I don't play videogames.

>>44060496
>Yeaaa... only "safe" things allowed!
Well... Do you want to listen to a coworker ramble about Destiny or do you want them to go downstock the shelves?

>>44060565
>spoiler tags are so useful as specialized context-senstive syntax
actually totally agree but they're really only on boards about media and it has been ever thus
>Eh, Ive pretty much mastered it.
no, you're just still young enough that the full weight of the lie isn't killing you yet

>>44060565
Why did you have to pretend you don't play videogames, especially if u are boymoding? And it's Destiny, not like Fear and Hunger or something lol
That's a bit much, even for me

>>44060614
>just still young enough
im 27

>>44060663
first its just a conversation and then its him adding me on discord so we can link up and play and then seeing my stupid puppygirl OC that I put in all my fanfics and draw (no im not like a puppygirl, ive been a fan of doggirls since middleschool im an OG) and then thats one more person who Knows Me and loathe the idea of that

>>44060703
Nta but , like, is this coworker annoying? Do u hate him? Is he just *fine*?

>>44060703
there's a lot of dooming, concern trolling, general misery about age on this board but don't fool yourself, 27 is young

>>44059114
>5 months
i’ve been on e for over a year and a half and no one has figured it out on their own

>>44060703
I get you. I totally understand the feeling of wanting to hide, but maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing if you became friends?
or you can just like change ur pfp if you wanted to add him lmao

>>44060703
awwwwww i remember the whole discord dance. I did it in the other direction tho bc i just switched over my old boy one. had to come out to a few high school friends before i could switch it :)

Idk nona. Coming out is a good thing. yes its scary. Its also hopeful and exciting.

>>44060711
No he's a great guy, but I'd react the same to anyone like that. I don't like when people know what I'm into.

>>44060721
You're probably right but I haven't felt young in a decade.

>>44060740
I considered making an alt but then it would be pretty obvious that I made an alt so im kinda in a bind.

>>44060750
If I wasn't stupid and started on HRT years ago I'd probably be in a better place mentally.

>>44060814
>You're probably right but I haven't felt young in a decade.
you had the whole lingering crashout after technically becoming an adult, huh?
been there
the reason I say you're young though is not to imply you have it good right now or anything, but rather that you don't know how bad it'll get when you go from just feeling like your youth is past to knowing it for sure

>>44060814
How tf would it be obvious lmao, what?
This is a crazy. Stop isolating yourself out of fear (this is rich coming from me lmao).
You should watch tadc yourself if you haven't. You're like the target audience

>>44060866
Disccord literally has an "account created" thingy that shows how old the account is

>>44060945
Then make it now and use it later, like the candy xd

>>44058598
maybe she meant nothing by it and just thinks its a holiday?
you should have said "you too...?" and then looked at her quizzically, if you ask what she meant now she will know ur gay where as before it was ambiguous

>>44056869
I want a job with libs that can tease me :(

I work with redneck America B men and I hate male socializszation so much. I want a dumb gay office job with women

>>44056869
they can see the tits you fucking retarded nigger

>>44059748
that is really close to how i feel actually. im just not entirely sure if people can tell. sometimes they stare a little too long, but i dont think they know why.

>>44060498
well fuck

>>44061477
I work at a dead end retail job selling dog food
>>44061496
I don’t have tits and don’t call me that.

>>44061592
how tf long you been on hrt with no tits???

>>44060498
>I had a coworker that was a male on female hormones and pretty much everyone knew the entire time. Some of the stupider people thought he was intersex, but he had that whole quiet computer person energy, long hair that he took too good of care of, and his skin and face looked weird in a way that looked like he had low androgens/high estrogen.
>Everybody knows and doesn’t care. Not in a supportive way, just literally don’t care. People generally avoided him both because of this and because he was asocial.

This is basically the median case anywhere unless the coworkers are like social media-captured far-left or far-right

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>>44060498
>>44061604
>long, well attended hair
>soft skin
>"computer person" energy
everyone who knows me knows don't they
literally everybody

Oh cool the flag button works now
>>44061602
7 months een with 4 being hondosed

>>44061592
i work a dead end job in a conservative field. i'm moving soon (i hope) so now i can have the dream job of making less and still being suicidal. at least i could pretend to be a woman

i hope you can make it out of your retail job. retail made me hate the modern man