Talk about different surgeons, recommend ones to look into or to stay away from. Personally, I live near Charlotte NC and apparently there's two good ones around, Joel Beck and Elda L. Fisher, interested in opinions on them. I'm terrified of a botch or no changes so I'm hoping people might be able to weigh in.
>>44070007After my botched surgery, i look like her before
>>44070007the after pic is still clocky as fuck
What FFS should I get?https://litter.catbox.moe/uywy0gqsqno9nz3n.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/7ttxl1fdu9ir8a3m.png
>>44070367why would you upload pictures with half your face covered by glasses and a hat?
>>44070285You've actually never see a trans girl irl, have you?
>>44070367need a side profile to accurately judge but probably type 3 frontoplasty + orbitoplasty, genioplasty, maybe some jaw work and maybe a rhinoplasty but I'd need a better view of your nose
>>44070398fucked one last year, hell of a less clocky than that bitch
>>44070285It’s entirely the eyebrows
i fucking hate my face so badly why did god curse me with this gorilla visage and massive bulbous nosehttps://litter.catbox.moe/uupi867ejqofobrx.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/j7ymw10url322tdj.jpg
>>44070437eyes, nose too male, expanded facial planes
>>44070442oh yeah, the whole mouth area is what really fucks with me
>>44070007i have ffs in two weeks should i go through with the liplift? i am a hispanic tranny.https://litter.catbox.moe/hr7980ckdtuaw3zd.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/rtwwdzmomlvfp8fe.jpgdoctor is board certified in beverly hills.
you ppl are deranged, she’s beautiful… no brow bone, small nose, short philtrum, low hairline, v-shaped jaw, good proportions and overall symmetry, blonde, green eyed
>>44070463no ur lips are finechin and philtrum to chin ratio are more important
>>44070442“expanded facial planes” and it’s just high cheekbones (that are deemed generally attractive and desired regardless of gender)… are we deadass
>>44070463dont get the lip lift. lip lifts are meant for people with no lips, not perfectly normal ones
>>44070007I've heard good things about Elda Fisher and my consult with her is in December (about one year after I initially called). If money is no issue (think $100k) go to Mardirossian or DB.
>>44070007different lightning, different angle, makeup, eyes not looking in the same direction
Thoughts on cis men getting FFS?
>>44070285Only if you have a mental illness for thinking everyone looks like a man
>>44070367Honestly not bad of a starting point. >>44070414This but idk if rhinoplasty is needed and a lip lift might be good as wellNeed to see side and 3/4ths profile, ideally with hair up.
>>44070834i cant wait for clavicular to get hers next year
>>44070007Personally, I'd rather look like the one on the left. I know men like the one on the right. I really wouldn't like to look so feminine, but I know men like it. She looks like a little sorority girl
>>44070007I hope I can get ffs before 50 I feel so fucking manly and like everyone lies to meIf i can get medicaid or smth I might get it when im 30, just wish i coulda had much younger>>44070439u exagerate then again its side angle but nose doesnt look super bulbous
>>44070451Agreed. Nice eyes though, the colour is cool
>>44070906i don't think it's an exaggeration given i will never pass without ffs and probably wont even with it based on the consults ive received
>>44070924I never needed ffs to pass. I had it done purely out of vanity.
>>44070933thats great. fuckin happy for you. not everyone is so lucky as you can see
>>44070872>i cant wait for clavicular to get hers next yearOMG lmfao. What about Andro>>44070578>you ppl are derangedOkayy, I'm not fully nuts so I'll take a look. The mouth is very masculine as in the lip shape, the chin is long as fuck same with the jaw, the hairline looks like in the second picture that it will be an issue. Idk I feel like some would clock it some wouldn't and it would be the jaw and lips + eyebrows that exposed it>>44070906>can get ffs before 50You guys are lucky that surgery is normalised for you, I'm a cisgender woman and I want a nose job to refine the tip and slim the bridge but everyone thinks I am mental for it.
>>44070940Everyone's got their cross to bear. For me, I wish I had not transitioned. I would much rather be a gay man, if I could look really handsome stud over 6 feet tall, instead of being a midget runt!
>>44070285Are you high, the clockiness is the best part
>>44070961>cisgender womanhow? Everyone on 4chan is male
>>44070961Yeah i'm lucky to need heavy surgery to appear like a normal human being that will costs tens of thousand's and lead to my suicide if i can't get it in reasonable timeim sorry your minor normalized nose job feels difficult because your family said its mental because they'll always say ur perfecti know in foresight that ill be really upset i was mean here but cmon...
>>44070007Weird angles + half the face is covered in hair. Similar to finnster who posts ffs results after applying 53 filters.
>>44070994Not just my family dude, random people online got pissed, friends got pissed, whenever I complain about how I look which I try to make sure isn't often people roll their eyes
>>44070981well I'm autistic
>>44070961nose jobs are exceptionally accepted as far as cosmetic surgeries go though
>>44071014I am 19, and I have wanted one since I was 11. It seems to make everyone angry
>>44071028I mean for most people considering cosmetic surgery as a preteen is insane but you're not alone in that regard
>>44070968nt, could have never accepted yourself as male.
>>44070968Do you ever get tired of this LARP?
>>44070823Money is an issue for me, so between the two I listed which do you think might be more affordable? I hear Fisher is generally good at making it look like you've not have work done.
>>44071212I've not heard of Beck at all tbhon. What I have heard from Fisher's patients is good though. She's thorough, does a CT scan, makes 3D prints of your skull to practice on, etc.
Where do you guys go to find patient reviews about various ffs surgeons? Apparently my insurance might cover one but I have no idea how good she is and don't know where I'd even start to find outAlso, do most forms of ffs still end up with bits of metal in your head? I remember when I looked into it years ago most brow reductions involved placing a metal plate in your forehead, while some jaw surgeries put hinges in there to keep your jaw in place
All the testimonials I see about Joel Beck are gigahons who look slightly different
>>44071505His results are definitely not impressive looking at them. Elda Fisher has some hits and misses but Joel Beck does seem to be a poor choice. Honestly if insurance screws me I'm just gonna work at Starbucks or smth for DB or Mardirossian FFS.
>>44071516are the misses more her fault or working with a rough canvas? I think my face is alright, all i really need is brow, jaw, and maybe chin, which I'm told are most manageable.
>>44071525Rough canvas but I do think a more talented surgeon could do better, but that's true of most surgeons. She does seem to be on the better end of surgeons that take most insurance though.
how does a living merciful god allow this to occur?https://litter.catbox.moe/wjvg9hmqemrf5hlc.jpeghttps://litter.catbox.moe/m0rijs00mk6x7cse.jpeg
>>44070007From Germanic to SlavPowerful
>>44070007god I wish I were whiteit’s so fucking unfairlife isn’t worth living when ur not white
>>44070463no!
