FUCK why is this person a tranny? i thought their incel video was good and figured they were like the rare cis person who gets it. but NOPE this is how i find out it's a tttt boymoder/theymab actually kms. is there no one on earth that can be spared from the mind virus???
>>44087925I'm pretty sure this person was posting here about wanting to make a vid about Jax the other day. You just missed it.
>>44087925>i thought their incel video was goodhe misses the mark on a lot of blackpill points to fit his interpretation of the characters, it's a decent video.
>>44087925> thinking the cissoids would get itkek
>>44087925actually they're a redditor
>>44087925get an ad
>>44088073kek
>>44087995ik that's why i recognized the thumbnail, i pulled up the archived post (in the picrel) but i missed the part where someone found out who it was
I cosign that whole video even if TADC having no redeeming qualities or themes apart from Jax is a bit hyperbolic.
Went to page but the vid isnt there
holy shit did i just make him remove it wAIT I WASNT DONE WATCHING THAT SORRY
>>44088203She posts here semi regularly about being a semi famous youtube repper
>>44088366they deleted and reuploaded it already once before because of demonetization so i think you're fine
>>44088425they also deleted the tweets about the video too
>>44088455huh i had no idea. that's weird then.
>>44087925yeah they used to post a bunch on 4tran4 or the related troon art subreddit. i think they even started the art sub?
>>44088455FUCK i also misgendered them i think i'm sorryyyy i just wanted to make a dumb post about how annoyingly common trannies are
>>44087925I hate how much I relate to Jax as a regular straightoid loser.It's erie.I know that was the point but in my defense, my family and place of origin is pretty damn dysfunctional.But yeah yeah, self pity won't fix my crappy resume.
>>44087925ey looks like someone finally did the video defending jax. nice
>>44088366vid is back up
>>44089869yayy my tadcslop
>>44088013eh they can, we just deny all of it.
Why the FUCK do you keep deleting the video I need to watch it
>>44087925>>44088928cute rantbest video I've seen on Jax sofar and sadly it'll remain that unless you do a sequel HOWEVER it was so so lacking two things in particular stand out to meFirst is that trauma leaves a wall around you, that closes in on you, when everyone knowing becomes a part of it. Seeing them again means not only confronting the shame of laying it bare before others, but forces you to confront the thing you need to avoid inside. And when you try to come back, it takes work, and Jax put it in, he came back to her. But the extra work and time it takes leaves you out of the flow of things, and it'll almost always be too late. I have lost people like that, over the exact same thing. Being unable to be instead of become honest about dysphoria.Second is that it specifically addresses how the trauma of being raised (violated) to patriarchal roles breaks trans woman. For the simple reason that somehow we cannot fall in line. Something inside of us, we can't even explain, blocks us.The backstory, especially with his mother is obviously inspired by Bell Hooks, I recommend reading "The Will to Change" because the influence of that book is undeniably present and the concept of the way a son is treated as a surrogate husband by a single mother is definitely copied from there. Patriarchy is portrait as a combination of violence and violent self-denial.The things she omits cut deeper than the YouTube comments.Even inside the circus, Zooble and Kaufmo act as enforcers of the patriarchy. Ribbit and Pomni, while not acting with any malice, lack the perspective to understand that trauma and what hurt the internalisation of it causes to boys. And so it explodes on them.I could go on and on, but I want to point out how Zooble, as the afab queer counterpart to Jax, enforces a male role on him and separates him from female connection. As Kinger is unable to fullfil the patriarch's role, Jax as the amab is forced to take his place and enact violence.
>>44087925Stop plugging your video on the board
>>44090847cont.Zooble can always retreat to the position of the female. Even though having a boys uniform in the school scene, her being indecisive is weaponised. This becomes her special ability ones she "accepts" this. In so many comments I see her referred to as a woman, which is even more shocking than people misreading Jax. To me, this speaks to her ability to be read as a victim. But she's very controlling, be that in sabotaging adventures, where Cain would be in control of the situation. She constantly controls others expression or uses her unwillingness to gather attention. Controling Gangle not only monopolises her attention, but also to isolate Ragatha. If Jax working through his awkwardness with Ribbit was something to blame him, then what she did was clear evil. Ragatha is aware of how much she is hurt by her, but as the oldest female character by experience she and her attempt to equal relationships is antithetical to Zooble's drive to control, so she must be disposed of, even if that could mean her abstracting.Anytime she challenges Jax's masculinity, it's done in such a way, that he's forced to assert it, but in no way empowered. This is done through humiliation where she is the only one that can read through his queerness and see his vulnerability. The voting expresses her ability to control his mind and his body.And ultimately, she ends up operating a bar where she is boss and can decide over people. Of course, marginalized people, because they have no where else to go.Zooble is not a flawed character, but the antithesis to Jax. Evil and fully responsible, but never read as such.What surprised me the most about all the negative comments about Jax was that the perspective seems to be very gender dependent. Cism, cisf, from and mtf hold vastly different viewpoints. I can only relate that to different relationships to receiving violence to be molded into a patriarch as a mtf. Other genders are spared part of this, they will refuse empathy.
Just link the video
>>44088533its cool they make art but holy damn i have to say ofc the terminal redditor is a fucking youtuber too total 4t4 death
>>44088795>>44087925why is everyone into tadc such a flaming newfag>side eyes maple
>>44091146cont.Lastly, Jax's desire to live fully in this world, which he pushes other into accepting instead of mulling over the problems they cannot fix anymore, also relates to gender issues. In the world of the circus they are forced to live in, bodies are fully synthetic so sex is devoid of any meaning. Yet, his amabness is forced onto him from the outside world, which is what separates him from others. The others holding onto that world and it's categories, puts him into the male role, which he is forced to enforce on himself by its own logic.He can't even put on a swimsuit, because unlike his mind file working with an somewhat androgynous clothing choice, whatever swimsuit the clothing booth would choose for him would reveal a gender. Female swimwear closest to his mind file would out him, while male swim wear would expose his chest and be a cruel proof of the meaninglessness of the pain he suppresses.This would go wrong either way, at a point where he was close to abstract already.Anyone, feel free to steal these thoughts.
>>44091146I see where you're coming from but I think you're massively overlooking what a negative mental impact it is for the characters to be in the circus in the first place and make sense of that existence.The only person who actually conciously gives a shit about reinforcing patriarchy is Jax, and yeah Zooble jabs at her but it's largely retaliatory.Zooble does come to care for and be protective of Gangle, but a lot of the time Gangle just fucks off and really could not give more of a shit about anything beyond not being bothered. They step up to action more after seeing Pomni's example(s), even if that influence isn't from a direct conversation. A lot of abuse happened to Gangle at Jax's hand because Zooble simply decided not to be there.Nobody but Pomni (who had suffered at Jax's hand least, sans Kinger) was very empathetic to Jax by the end because every single time someone reached a hand of empathy to her, she actively made that person's life worse in the moment or in a prolonged way.The way I see it, Jax is constantly engaging in emotional self-harm that then starts spilling out of her into her harm of others. Zooble isn't the one with control issues, it's Jax. Jax literally drove Ribbit to suicide in order to not have to authentically adress the vulnerability she showed Ribbit.My ex stepfather was not an egg (to my knowledge at least) but he had a very similar complex of feeling he was inherently irredeemable and letting that justify the dysfunctional and reactive actions that drove the people who dearly and authentically loved him (Me, my sister, and my mom) away from him. And we even knew what his trauma(s) were, and his inability to love himself STILL destroyed his relationships will all of us.None of these people knew what Jax was going through because she refused to even try to open up or trust them, and took it upon herself to make everyone (including herself) suffer for opening up to Ribbit.
>>44091284I will add though (same person as replied to your second post) Even if I disagree with some of your takes you've almost put together an interesting underlying theme about patriarchy I haven't really seen anyone talk about, which it DOES make manifest in this world through Caine, albiet not intentionally.In my eyes Caine and Jax are foils, Caine lashes out from lack of perspective and accepts the consequences of his actions and vows to do better and is accountable for the harm he caused even if it is based in ignorance. The show isn't so direct as to go "Caine is giving up expressing patriarchal masculinity" but that's essentially what happens. Especially since Caine releases the first (being? entity?) he opressed, the blue AI, before he felt he was even worthy to face everyone again and make his initial apology.Caine fell into being an oppressive masculine figuire (implicitly patriarchal, especially since his idea of a 'God' in the first place would no doubt originate with the Abrahamic god) because he only had so much data about the world to work with in order to understand and define his 'purpose'. He was also somewhat trapped in patriarchal conditioning but could break out of it when he accepted it was his actions that caused him to get deleted (even if he was mistaken in thinking it was intentional).
>>44091242i've been visiting this board semi regularly since 2022, i guess i just missed this specific person being a youtuber
>>44082651idk where else to posts this, sorry for taking so longI figured since this is a Jax thread that anon might still be around, here is the cat drawing
>>44087925i shouldn't have have made this post god dammit i think my stupid rogd brainworms ruined this person's life or whatever fuckkk and i didn't even get to finish it i was busy sighhhhhhhh
>>44092472lol good thing I watched it before he pussied it out
>>44092482can you summarise it
>>44087925dawg he came out on twitter during pride month lol. well not actually came out but like shit on themselves for being a repper. but the whole thing is the first time they admitted being tran in public at all so its kinda a coming out
>>44092494>tadc has no redeeming qualities except for jax>I relate to jax a lot because I MIGHT be a faggot repper>people that don't understand that he is a trans character are retardedI don't remember much more sorry anon
>>44092502thanks sounds missable
>>44087925also the incel video kinda sucked i think disavowing misogyny is cringe women deserve to be hated
>>44087925went looking for this and the video isnt there?
>>44092513it is, he doesn't make strong points that manage to stick with the viewer>>44090847 does a better job at an analysis outside of what we already know of jax>>44092526he(?) removed it
It was good
>>44091222this video is about jax by psychogenicfugue. it keeps getting taken down and reuploaded
>>44092528>they removed itis there like a twitter hate mob happening or something? or are they just freaking out bc they outed themselves as a repper. i'm assuming a combination>it was an utterly horrible idea to attempt to rationalize the actions of a toxic, misogynistic abuser purely because he has "trauma". the only reason i ever thought otherwise is because i am just as awful as him.ts reminds me of the dunce hats from the cultural revolution, when are fags going to learn that the only people woke hate mobs work on are other fags and that maybe bullying your own people out of nuanced takes is a bad thing?also, just in case psychogenicFugue is watching this thread in a panic attack, i'd just like to say that you should immediately stop identifying as a repper and get on HRT. im guessing you're in your early 20s from the video on being 23, and i am like honorbound to tell you that this is basically your last realistic change at living most of your life free from constant misery. i trooned out when i was 22 and i thought it was over, but it wasnt. i also remember a few times in my life when i was 17, 14, 11, and 6 where i actively chose to repress my feelings and im glad my mental breakdown at 22 isnt just another one
>>44092574fuck him, I repped until 25 and I can still see my neardenthal brows and barrel ribcage, never rep
>>44092574I hope they know they are just as evil as that cartoon rabbit from that children's show and should take all of this extremely seriously
I hope they analyse the moral character of tinky winky next
>>44092594tinky winky...broke me...
>>44087925>>44092526>>44092574i went and yt-dlp'd it from his patreon. I don't know where to share it lmao but like, he can't really get away from it being on the internet anymore. so hey mister fugue, you should reupload it yourself and make everyones lives easier. or at least fucking take your pills alice.
>>44092574why are tumblrpeople so insane and unwellt. straight cis moid woke libtard 4channer
>>44092574>toxic misogynistic abuserare these people serious?
>>44087925Damn nigga you're scaring all the hoes.
>>44092574>just in case psychogenicFugue is watching this thread in a panic attackI wouldn't bet on that. Reppers and people who empathize with them really do experience the "stop, you smoke too tough, your swag too different, your bitch too bad, they’ll kill you" dilemma every day, especially now with Jax having become mainstream repper representation. His post reads like obvious passive aggression, probably from throwing up his hands and going "fine, no content then" at how retarded his cissoid comments probably were. I didn't see them to know if they were actually bad, but that's my guess.
>>44092574>last realistic change at living most of your life free from constant miseryso it's too late for me...
>>44087925they have a Homestuck camelCase name what did you expect
>>44092574damn was not expecting thatno point psychoanalyzing but i wonder if there was legit backlash to the video or she (understandably) just cracked under the pressure
>>44092686reminder that he kins eridan lmfaooo
>>44092678the comments i read all seemed chill though
>>44092639>>44092526>>44092574ok i put it on the internet archive if anyone is interested in watching it. https://archive.org/details/this-video-is-about-jax.-early-preview-162452777
i'm trying to go to sleep but i legit feel terrible about this (i'm op posting from phone), like i'm sure it's not entirely my fault but the timing is kind of crazy and idk seeing so many ppl in the post from fugue be all "it's ok MAN" "you'll get through this MAN" like even if the word doesn't bother them much it's gonna be a shitty situation to crawl out of by coming out. god being a tranny really is the worst thing ever ig that's why i began the thread lamenting that another poor soul joins our ranks. really really sorry fugue if this thread worsened ur mental state i hope u can get better i like ur videos
>>44092695nobody gave him shit, I really don't know what's his problem, nothing that he say in the video went out of the normal discourse of any other jax video, what I'm interested in is not on the video but why did he have an spergout over it
>>44092701Thank you based archivist nona.
>>44092703because every terrible transmisogynistic comment that he has been seeing every hour of every day is killing him and he hates himself over being seen like this and he isnt currently strong enough to just stand up to these ppl and stop the stupid repping
>>44092574purged xitter a bunch as wellin case youre lurking this thread hi fugue, i liked your video(s, will be watching pantheon soon), glad someone had the courage to say what ive been thinking about this stupid fucking circus show rabbit and her consequences. try not let any pushback get to you more than it has, dont even think about detrooning and gl out there.
>>44092695Interesting, I'm not sure why he took it down then in that case. I guess I just find it hard to believe he made a 45 min video essay, then 180'd his opinion mere hours after uploading it. I feel like there must have been some backlash somewhere that pissed him off, cause he doesn't seem to me like the kind of guy to face minor pushback and immediately cower and go, "oh- ouhh... i'm sorry guys, i didn't mean any of that, sorry i stepped out of line :cccc".
>>44092711well if he was strong enough HE woulda stop tiptoeing around his massive internet audience and just say out loud that he is in fact repping>every terrible transmisogynistic commentthey built an audience bereft of that kind of people, literally demons on a mirror funhouse type shit
>>44092703probably a combination of not-a-tranny-i-swear mask coming off, it being less polished than her other stuff and her generally being more unsure about whether to post it from the start made her panic and remove it. like i said, understandable
idk why you all think she's repping she said she was on hrt already in another thread
>>44092724in my defense I didn't know
>>44092724he/him on xitter pronouns section, clocking her as more of a halfrepper boymoder due to the shitstorm that's being a tranny on social media
>>44092721he said that he was a repper on twitter last month. i remember literally interacting w the post. and im not talking abt his comment section i mean the internet in general. he seems seriously fucked up over how awful TMEs r being.
>>44092724hrtrepping is a thing (it exists in the space between complete repping and boymoding)
>>44092733>how awful TMEs r beinghow are they being? i dont have xitter
>>44092743just use xcancel
>>44092743the jax thing has been a really really great reveal to even the most nonconfrontational of trannies that everyone fucking hates us and sees us as men and wants us to be eternally punished for the sin of being who we are. its mostly on tiktok actually, which is a site where lgbt ppl r almost completely coopted by terf rhetoric. but twitter and reddit have it too.
why does this bunny activate the afab killswitch?
>>44092764ALL afab are evil
>>44092743instant 180 from jax being a tumblr sexyman candidate to "an abuser who should own up to tHeir crimes", as well as the 1000 tiktok teenagers deciding to dunk on goosework for "needing to take accountability for tHeir racism and misogyny" which translates to "kill this fucking yakubian tranny"
>>44092769>take accountability for tHeir racism and misogynyi had to stop using twitter/engaging with lgbt stuff like this outside of this board bc reading stuff like this was making me unironically racist
>>44091344Thanks for you response, it means a lot for me.I'll try to elaborate a bit more, I don't mean to be confrontational, it's just important to me to get something across, I haven't been able to fully formulate. But you should REALLY read The Will to Change, it going to open a new perspective, especially how your family situation you described sounds very very normal.Jax is the only one consciously reinforcing masculinity, because he is the only one who consciously had to be broken to be that way. Just that as an mtf she/we know it's "unjust", because unlike cis man we know we are not meant. When we try to open up about it, especially in the face of abuse, we get that illusion shattered and shown that we are made to suffocate under the assignment of our body. We are murdered to be replaced by a shell (because of our body which increasingly sends distress signals due to incongruence) by those most intimate to usThis is something a female raised by person will never be able to understand, not as a mark of pride, but a scar of abuse. This amab socialisation is ironically inherently masculinising, which has to be carried as a scar.The woman are well meaning, but they cannot help effectively, without understanding the consequences and severity of this trauma first. And woman, as a class, were structurally empowered to violate mtf in the first place. Not to deny the good will, but it doesn't just do what it's meant to be and a female failure to attempt to empathize with that cannot shift the responsibility morally onto the "violent man".What they, and you in your response, don't understand that accepting help and closeness or not is not an equivalent choice. Healing requires building up a house of cards and without stability it takes time to build that again when it's shaken. Jax does that work, only to find out that it comes just late enough to be to late. I did this to find out it was just too late. Coming out carries this burden. Zooble abuses this.
>>44092777i'm really coming to believe that chronic exposure to retarded people is a very real health hazard
>>44092574This makes me sad, but I guess not everyone can withstand content creation.
>>44092777theres lowkirkenuinely an unlimited supply of performatively woke (usually white) tme people who will gladly kill a tranny that's too problematic/malebrained/doesnt acknowledge tHeir "amab privilege". type of people behind this shit https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Birthday_Boy
>>44087925Wtf, just saw the yt post. The video was fine?? A little unpolished and ranty, but we knew that going in.The comments seemed relatively normal, too, from what I can remember.>>44092701:D
>>44092574>posts nuanced and reasonable character analysis>freaks out>deletes video>claims to believe the exact opposite of everything said in the video>spirals into deep self loathing over nothing for the 2982742654th time
>>44091434It was really my first time formulating that making me understand that theme underlying the story. An important insight was that all characters are flat to function as mirrors of different aspects of Jax. But that also goes for my negativity to Zooble, while I didn't like her I haven't seen how negative their character was.Zooble not being there to "protect" Gangle means that it's not more important to get than what she's doing instead, which is wallowing in misery. On the opposite, Jax achieved what she wanted Gangle to feel authentically happy by living in the moment instead of the past (which he needs to escape). Zooble only starts taking care of Zooble when she attempts to make her sexually available, at the same time alienating her from Ragatha, who mirrors Jax in her way to reach out.Zooble is the embodiment of a gatekeeper in queer environments due to internalised transphobia. It's common for mtf to find themselves in queer spaces that are dominated by woman, and the power to weaponise vulnerability, that is enabled by no consequences for flip flopping between refusing and using afab roles. Mtf don't get this, because masculinity is a curse and recontextualises us as targets for violence, and our actions to live up to female standards cannot be sustained under violence, taking our ability to prove us as women. There's a dual labor of being legible and enforcing that context from which we are read, which is not comparable to afab genderqueers. (afab only queer spaces, traumatized by amab bodies: these were common points of discussion of mtfs being degendered by women)It's super interesting what you say about Caine, I have read him as being neurodiverse and misunderstood. I could see it, but he lacks the trauma which I see essential to patriarchy. I think he ends up falling into an understanding of an Abrahamic God in the end, where he becomes a co-creator of the world with humans.My perspective of an mtf coming out after the comments hurt.
>>44092701hell yeah nona tysm
>>44090847>>44091146>>44091284>>44092779>>44092869holy yap can someone translate this plz
>>44087925For sure
Looked for this person's channel. I can't find the video.
>>44092981theyfabs are evil and need to die
>>44091781>2022>not a newfaglollmao even
>>44087925You are all redditors and fake trans. Others have said it already and you consistently prove it true with each consecutive thread. You do not belong here and making edgy posts about liking cartoons does not make you trans or even a regular channer.
>>44093374surely you have better things to do than ree about anons discussing the purple wabbit show
>>44088003>he misses the mark on a lot of blackpill pointshow so? I'm intrigued, if morbidly
why does the zoomer circus show warrant such in depth discussion? I watched the first few episodes and it was pure brainrot
>>44093609>>44092701
fugue if you're reading thistake a breathergo for a walkit'll all still be here when you get back
>>44087925why did you take down the video i was in the middle of watching it
>>44093609Just watch the rest tbhon
>>44092847>>claims to believe the exact opposite of everything said in the videoput like that, it is concerning. implies a complete lapse of trust in their own judgement. I hope they're ok
finally actually watched the video and wow yeah it was good. i disagreed with the first third (i feel like they expected something out of the show that it was obviously never going to deliver) but everything after that was fax, and it sucks that they felt compelled to take it down
>>44087925Still not watching this
>>44094934you're really better off that way, i wish i didn't watch it on several bowls and a bottle of cough medicine
>>44087925I don't know if the guy who posted the video will see this, but I really hope they unprivate it or at least provide a download like to those who wanna see it. Maybe even unlist it instead of leaving it private.
>>44096552>guyshe's literally been on hrt for like a year lol, she's trans, she tweeted about it
>>44094934based gangle
>>44096552read the thread
>>44087925WE LOVE YOU FUGUE!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKb7NOKrqlU&list=RDoIMv1PFXyVs&index=6https://youtu.be/6HgJUKRFj0ci'd like to be your friend if you0d like that im ver ylonely....
>>44092790>>44093655>>44093846I can't tell if I'm the autistic one here, or if everyone else is misreading his crashout. His community post doesn't jump out as "having a breakdown" to me at all, way more like expressing how exasperated he is at bad faith detractors by sarcastically pretending to walk it all back, like>You know what, you're actually right guys, it turns out I'm retarded and my whole video was wrong, everything I said was incorrect, the show was otherwise well written and Jax is actually an evil, irredeemable, abusive, one-dimensional character, I'll go ahead and kill myself now, good job guys we did it redditDid/does nobody else see it that way?
>>44097173thank you fugue :)looking forward to the flowers of evil video whenever that rolls around, take your time and don't feed any trolls that may sprout in the meantime. my goat, i kneel.
>>44087925Wait, he's a tranny now? I saw and liked his incel video but skipped out on this one because it was just a bunch of rambling (half of wich I didn't agree with). At what part does he come out?
>>44098234
>>44098242Sorry for being late to the party. I had no idea who he was outside of the incel video I saw last month. Didn't know he had history in /tttt/.
>>44092639lowk post it in an unlisted utube video or something so we can watch it
>>44098234They were always a tranny they used to post on 4t4
>>44098372there's an archive video right in this thread
>>44087925so:is fugue /our/girl now?
>>44098140Never mind, he posted a white woman "my statement... my thoughts on the situation... it's time I speak my truth..." tweet, idk why I gave him the benefit of the doubt. You shouldn't be allowed to share opinions with such antagonistic fervor publicly if you lack the nuts to stand on business defending them. Utter glass cannon, which sucks cause his analysis was cogent as fuck and I agreed 99.9% with it. He's gmi though, that level of self doubt is mega fembrained.
