>>44090515
Check the username. They probably got married then overindulged in their porn addiction.

>>44090515
Grim, it’s called being evil and inhuman.

>>44090515
The dysphoria isnt there until they identify as trans. Its only when you compare yourself to women (cis or trans) that you start feeling inadequate about your body/life. Trans identification for AGPs comes only after being groomed/memed into it.

>>44090573
Imo sissy porn addiction is a symptom of deep repping rather than a cause of so called ROGD

>>44090592
no brutha i came out within 6 months of making friends with cis girls in high school for the first time, having zero exposure to tranny stuff. didn't even know that you could troon out just decided i wanted to be a woman and one of the cis girls told me about hrt. this was in 2013, maybe 2012 in eastern europe

>>44090651
Im inclined not to believe you for several reasons, not only just because it would be almost 5am in eastern europe right now. But congrats in being a complete outlier if youre AGP

>>44090592
This is laughably false.

>>44090722
How so?

>>44090740
Autogynephilia is an innate paraphilia, you can't catch it or get memed into it. And from personal experience my dysphoria started long before I knew what being a tranny was.

>>44090770
To be fair, I'm not saying you can be memed into AGP, I'm saying you can be memed into trans identity. There are plenty of AGPs out there who identify as men (just look at the number of "cis males on hrt" on here).

>>44090677
i don't live in eastern europe any more bro its a shithole

>>44090827
AGP comes in a range of severity from your occasional crossdressers with no dysphoria to transexuals who are suicidal over it. It also often progressively gets worse over time, which imo is why you tend to see these reppers who were able to deal with it in the past but eventually snap and troon out in later years.

>>44090888
True. The guy in OP's pic is one of those "crossdressers with no dysphoria". His dysphoria only came into existence in later years, suddenly. I wonder what sort of event could cause this...

>>44090827
There are even a lot of AGPs who don't identify as trans or women and don't see themselves as people that would need HRT in the first place, whether "cis male on HRT" or "trans woman".

>>44090515
Trying to force yourself into a heteronormative life because you hate that you are a tranny freak and think "im different, repping will work for me".

Although in my case I didnt have a kid until she raped me for divorcing her

>>44090515
Didnt wear a suit. Didnt have a wedding at all, actually. Did feel disgusting during the pregnancy process. Did feel dread over my daughter calling me dad. I was ACTIVELY repressing and it nearly killed me. I thought I was stronger than dysphoria, turns out that shit has hands.
>>44091115
Yep. Literally tried my hard to embrace being a cisheteronormative manly man to fight the tranny thoughts. Failed. SPECTACULARLY.

In any case Im a mom now and I pass so ig it worked out better than it could've, lmao.

>>44090515
>most compassionate, theory of mind-possessing "boymoder"

>>44091251
lol how is this a boymoder

>>44090888
I have increasingly bad AGP. I'm 32. What should I do about it? I know I'm not trans but also I'm less sure now that I was 10 years ago

>>44091401
Not them, but try to stop looking at AGP stuff? Ideally replace it with other things. Every time you enjoy thinking about yourself as a woman, you're training your brain to crave it more.

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can i make it into the trans world?

>>44091473
Thats basically asking me to stop looking at porn and naked women

>>44091592
Have you tried to integrate it instead?

>>44091600
That does that mean?

>>44091605
Like allowing yourself some feminine things and engaging in the AGP without letting it take over your life.

>>44091626
My only feminine thing is wanting to be fucked like a girl though

>>44091592
Get creative, faggot.
>>44091626
This is just transition lite. Still the same process of increasing dependence on AGP, which will worsen dysphoria. Not even mentioning that the ultimate way to look cute for CDing will always be taking HRT and getting surgeries. This is literally what happened to the pope of the integration strategy, RayGP, who has a thread about himself on this board right now >>44086414
The only way out is to rep.

>>44091731
>RayGP,
Didn't he try hard repping as a christcuck until it drove him insane.

>>44090515
I dont know either
god I remember in hs when I had to wear a suit for prom I was miserable as shit and was so overwhelmed I became completely numb
I have no clue how you do piv over and over again
get married wearing a suit having everyone pat you on the back calling you the groom and shit
then you have a kid with a woman and became a FUCKING FATHER
and only now you wanna be trans
Im gonna be honest if you transition after all that shit youre probably faketrans and are fucking your life up for no reason
either that or you spent the last decade of your life in some extreme fugue state

>>44091787
True. Thats why you don't go full retard and leave yourself some room to breathe by letting yourself masturbate to other shit and have sex, unlike what that idiot did. Although he did say he had a "divine revelation" aka psychosis at some point so it's not entirely his fault for going down the tardcel path

>>44091802
yeah never went to prom equivalent even though we wore a uniform that resembles a suit
can't fathom getting married either
but don't believe in trooning

>>44091251
I can show them compassion but I don’t understand before hrt my dysphoria was so bad I would not leave my house and dropped out of high school until my parents let me start hrt so I would go back

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>>44090515
>u/CallMeBambiiii
grim

>one chance at life
>born to middle class parents in first world
>ok not so bad
>right after your born your dad becomes a trans neverpasser
>parents get divorced, mom hates dads guts now
>tranny gene implanted in the very fibers of your dna
grim

>>44091731
>same process of increasing dependence on AGP, which will worsen dysphoria
but it makes the numbness go away so it feels better

>>44091834
>what i say when the addiction counsler asks me to drop the heroin

>>44091473
pretty sure all of life is agp

>>44091857
you can say that about food too

I remember in the thread of the 37 yr old gay dude(the one obsessed with tadc) I said I felt bad for the wife whos life he just fucked up and got shit for it because in all of these "coming out" type scenarios just because theyre a fag and im a fag im supposed to pretend like shit is cool I guess
If I married a guy for 10 years and he woke me up one day to tell me he was also trans I genuinely might put my hands on him that sounds absolutely crazy I'm sorry
Imagine having kids with the love of your life only to find out theyre AGP and would rather be a transbian and neverpass than be a father for your child

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>>44091871
>my dependence on sissy hypno is the same as my need for food

>>44091886
Shit like this is part of the reason why I'm never getting into a relationship or having kids.

>>44091913
I am of the firm belief that reppers should not get into relationships unless they are completely upfront about it and their AGP tendencies(living vicariously through their female partner)
in the case of dating some bi chaserdude I guess its ok or whatever

bump

>>44091888
isn't that the whole premise of dysphoria

>>44090515
By not being a pussy??

>>44090515
You have a weak mind.

>>44090515
>>44090515
>13 Be me future bi mtf
>completely friendless up to this point, bullied out of schools
>walk into a youth venue run by two literal Jesus Freaks
>hit it off with their daughter (17) and all the rest of the goths working there (17/18)
> soon realize I can easily pick up women by asking what they like and getting them to talk about it since we have the same interests
>realize something is off but I dont know what to do about it and decide to make the best of being a boy
>sleep around and party hard nonstop from 13-22
>realize hanging with the goths, punks and juggalos lets me get away with being queer since I can blame punk rock for why I have a bobcut and pigtails
>meet future wife at 19 (she was 17) as friends, immediately outted as bi to her 20 minutes after I came out to a mutual
>future wife is cool with it since she is bi and runs a GSA
>split with my long term girlfriend and the same time as future wife splits with her bf
>she bails to Indiana for a few years (21)
>I go through twink death and decide to man up (23)
>meet back up with future wife by accident at ACEN start seeing each other shortly after (23)
>dysphoria starts getting unmanageable at 26/27
>28 we get married just before it she guesses I'm trans and I go into denial mode
>a few months after marrying I realize how badly I fucked up, offer to anull the marriage and pay her rent though the year while I move out
>she decides to stick it out do couples counseling, therapy
>plan out getting her pregnant and starting HRT at the same time
>start HRT at 30
>35 still married with a soon to be 4 year old daughter (wife mildly misses bi boy energy)

A lot of Millennials didnt know they had options and when they realized they were already invested in a life

Been here since 06

>>44090515
I never got as far as this thankfully, but yea I also was pretty typical masc during my early 20s despite being fully aware of trans people. I just always had this nagging feeling I hadn't started my life yet and I hadn't figured out how to express myself, I fell into scrawny nerd by default because I didn't know what else I could be. I was even pretty attractive as a dude, and whenever I received straight girl attention it felt like they weren't into me as such but a presentation that wasn't the real me. Then eventually when I finally had time to focus on myself after college I started exploring how to express myself and just drifted further and further into femininity until I decided to start hrt, and now I finally feel like myself. So yea they probably just did something like that but fell into a marriage and a kid on the way too, oops!

>>44090592
There’s something to be said about the fact that actually working towards something and feeling like you’re not measuring up is a more painful experience than just disassociating and not caring about your appearance at all.

I never understood why you can't just john 50 and then do medically assisted suicide.
50 years of age is like 2/3rd of life. A lot of people die before the age of 30.

>But you're gonna feel like shit bc of repping
Tough bippy bro but you still can do things that are of use to others and lead a life that's additive to the world around you snd then just feel like shit about it.

>>44091731
>>44091787
Ray's timeline is:
>Transitions college age and live 8 years as a woman
>discovers AGP
>"holy shit this is literally me"
>detroons because not passing and bitchy wife
>spends a year making youtube videos about integrating and accepting AGP as a man
>spends another year hard repping with catholicism out of shame
>is now retrooning but still manmoding at work and less worried about labels (hopefully)

>>44091886
This is why I'm integrating and making it as obvious as possible that I am AGP to potential partners. It's the only moral way to proceed once you're aware of your AGP

>>44095304
He also detrooned because he had a pulmonary embolism from his HRT, apparently

>>44095036
>death before dishonor
Based?

>>44090515
>>44090573
>be normal guy
>rushed too quickly to marry a girl and have kids
>later begins to feel like he didnt have a chance to have fun in his youth and this family is dragging him down
>indulges in escapism, drugs, video games, pornography, maybe fucks other women/men on the side
>becomes obsessed with fantasies of a more fun life as a different person (usually sexual fantasies)
>eventually breaks and does something drastic to try and achieve this new life he wants so badly (sometimes even murdering his wife and kids)
many such cases

>>44091787
His religious phase lasted like 2 months. It wasnt hard to see it wouldnt last, as that is usually the case with extremely zealous people that flip over night. He converted at like 40 and then one day later started ranting agsinst heathens and pagans and how they all deserve hell online. Now he’s forgotten all of that. I think he got bored of not talking about himself as well. He seems very excited now since he gets to do all the baby trans steps from scratch again, which to him is the best part

>>44090515
cold take: if you’re married and have a child you should NEVER transition, period.
you’ve made your choice and choices have consequences

>>44090515
>always wanted to be feminine but not necessarily to become a woman
>bisexual
>always open about this to anyone not a hook-up
>meet my wife at 22
>immediately tell her about this issue
>anon, that's hot, but we want kids
>start hrt at 25 after she gives birth to our second child
>now at 37 my biggest concern is that I might have to socially transition before it's entirely legally safe to do so
No regrets. I get to have it all. Family, children and to be myself.
Granted, it helps that my wife is also very kinky and queer but what helped the most was that we were (and are) both adults about it.
>How the fuck do you get married and wear a suit without crying?
I didn't wear a suit. And why would I cry? I was getting married to someone I loved.
You really lack a theory of mind. Not everyone is like you, OP.

>>44090515
I’m physically repulsed by those non-dysphoric blocks who lure woman into marriage, impregnate them with their rapesticks, become fathers and then all of a sudden decide to troon out

if you’re one of them you should kys

>>44090515
John 50, father of 3 be like
>why yes im intersex and exclusively androphilic

>>44095701
Disgusting, “I get to have it all” sums it up perfectly. It’s always about yourself narcissistic piece of shit. How are you children felling about having a troon instead of a dad?

>>44095764
Who cares about transphobic kids lol what are they gonna do?

>>44095304
>>44095616
Thanks for the qrd on the Raygp timeline

>>44090515
It should be legally prohibited to troon out if you have a kid

>>44095764
oh no, i'm being judged by a terminally online shut-in on the mongolian basket weaving forum. how am i going to cope with that? kek
you seem to have missed the part where my wife finds all of this hot.
>How are you children felling about having a troon instead of a dad?
for the most part they don't care. you also show you haven't read the comment you're replying to. i'm not a troon, you dipshit.
keep seething while others live life to their fullest.
oh and >>44095781 is not me

>>44095701
I could not be more jelly of you gotdamn

>>44095840
>you seem to have missed the part where my wife finds all of this hot.
I didn’t, you’re both sick

>>44095900
>seething hon on 4chan calls normie couple enjoying life "sick"
I love this website <3

>>44091802
>either that or you spent the last decade of your life in some extreme fugue state
Isn't this exactly what it is, though? Live through increasing disattachment and depression until you finally snap?

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>>44095701
>37
>hrt femboy

>>44095951
what's the flag for estrogenized dude? "hrt femboy" is the closest to my situation /shrug

>>44095922
you’re a malebrained gigarapehon pervert married to a foid chaser, I feel sorry for your kids

>>44095969
you’re not a femboy, you’re a grown up man experiencing mid-life crisis

>>44095969
Idk the flags are fake and gay so I dont use them

Can I ask this tho. How did you have the foresight to tell your wife you wanna feminize yourself in 2011? John 50 only became a meme on /lgbt/ a little bit later, right?

>>44096023
Oh, I ignored the "always open" part in your post, my bad. I'm a illiterate subtard. But still, why would you be open about that shit as a straight man during the obama era

>>44090573
>bambi sleep retard
His wife should just kill him

>>44096074
>during the obama era
I'm not american lol
i do not live my life based on who is president in a foreign country. heck, i don't give af who is prime minister in my own lol
in my country there was never a big compunction about what you americans would call "gender expression". at least not since i've been alive.

>>44091169
mommy,,,, ><

>>44095701
>>44095764
Lmao sour grapes
>>44095668
Let me guess you are anti abortion too?
>>44095701
Based anon, might as well socially transition


I find this whole you must be miserable like me to really be trans bullshit hilarious. To all the kids reading this you can have a totally normal life just make sure you date bi/pan people and let them know

>>44091169
>it nearly killed me
well you should have finished the job

you’re not a “mom”, you’re a man, father, a sperm donor, sire.
by impregnating a woman and conceiving a child as a man you sealed your male status forever. ywnbaw

>>44096548
I’m fully pro abortion
>you must be miserable like me to really be trans
no you don’t, it’s enough if you simply don’t do certain things like, let’s think… becoming a husband to a woman, using your male genitals to have intercourse as a man and fertilise a woman with your sperm?

>>44096548
>might as well socially transition
I wouldn't gain much from doing that. Again, I always wanted to look and be feminine but not necessarily to be a (trans) woman.
atp i feel i'd restrict myself if i were to socially transition. also, in this country you can be in trouble with the social services if you're a troon parent. not to mention that if I were to change my ID that'd also come with complications with our marriage. Too much of a hassle over something I don't actually want that much. I'm fine just wearing a long skirt or a dress from time to time (especially now in the summer, lol) and be occasionally confused for a woman. Path of least resistance, shall we say.

>>44095993
the anon you're responding to is not me.
>you’re a malebrained pervert
guilty as charged. so?
>gigarapehon
I'm not a hon and haven't raped anyone. In fact, my fantasy is to be raped.
>married to a foid chaser
not quite chaser (she didn't know I was into this when she met me) but close enough. And again, so what?
We got to reproduce and spread those queer genes. Quite unfortunate we couldn't have 3 kids, but, still, we beat the total fertility rate of our country. We won at life. Meanwhile you get to seethe.
>>44096018
>mid-life
nigga I got on estrogen at 25 and have been wanting it since 18. if that's mid-life then words have no meaning anymore.

>>44090515
im a nondysphoric agp I think I coulda ended up with a wife if I wasn’t so dysfunctional. There is definitely an urge to be as normal as possible but I just constantly fail at it

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>>44090515
well I wore suits because seeing a man in a suit turns me on

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>>44090515
Is this a transbian thing?
I can't imagine marrying a woman, let alone using a penis on one... Get a visceral feeling of disgust just thinking about it.

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We gotta gatekeep harder

>>44100544
we gotta call out, bully and mock the hell out of these rapehons

>>44094814
damn. rock on nona

>>44090618
Keep coping, sure, but stop touching kids, AGPedo

>>44090515
bcus he’s a moid who wants to have his cake and eat it too most likely

>>44090515
Repression. I made it to my early 30s before starting my transition. I've know I was likely trans since I was young, but grew up in rural Appalachia and didn't want to hurt my family or be anymore of of an outcast than I already was.

Growing up nearly all my friends were girls. After puberty I felt very alien around guys. I had spells where I would crossdress at home or spend a lot of time watching trans YouTubers or browsing /lgbt/ (over a decade ago now). Eventually, the shame would overtake me and I would purge everything.

I met my wife in 2019 after breaking up with my boyfriend of 4 months. We hit it off, and for a time I managed to forget the dysphoria and envy, though it eventually started coming back as it always has.

After I started wearing leggings around the house, my wife asked if I ever had any trans thoughts, and I confessed to her. A few days later I tripped on psilocybin and realized just how much mental bandwidth I put into repressing. After that, I couldn't go back.

I've been lucky though. That was the end of 2024, and I'm still happily married. It hasn't been without difficultly. My wife has dealt with some grief over the changes, but we're best friends (we're almost never apart), own a house together, and have 4 great pets which we both adore. I'm pretty confident that we'll stay together.