Why did doctors lobotomize gay men and lesbians in the 1950s, as well as torturing and institutionalizing them prior under the pretense of offering psychiatric care? I thought psychiatrists are our friends?
hehehe botomized.
>>44098602giwtwm
>>44098602because they're pseuds that make the normal people feel better about themselves
>>44098602Psychology has never been evidence based and still isnt, but it was the 50s. Doctors were still hacking out appendixes and tonsils from every child they could catch purely because they didnt like them. It was a dark time in medicine.
>>44098620Ily anon
>>44098602Trust the soience nona. Do better.
>>44098602Psychiatrists are jews who perform whatever evil they can get away with
>>44098651>>44098633ok but why specifically target gays, and why lobotomy?you are failing to even attempt to explain a motive or an intent
in some fairness the fields of psychiatry and psychology have come a long way on issues around queer people
>>44098852that's how they dealt with undesireable behavior back then
>>44099000or, psychiatry and psychology has become cleverer at hiding their tracks
>>44098620funny that jeff dahmer kidnapped guys to try to make a sex slave when so many faggots would literally let their top lobotomize them
>>44098852>motive or intentwell, because of homophobia, duh. but the reason they were/are homophobes is because they're pseuds
>>44099009eh, if these fields at large came and publicly said that being gay or trans is mental illness, they would have a lot of credibly in the eyes of a public that is already not particularly fond of trannies atm
>>44099039how does lobotomizing and institutionalizing gays act in furtherance of homophobic aims? Why not just openly brain-fuck gays without the pretense of medicine?
>>44099047Because it’s easier with the pretense of medicine and every patient expands the power of the individual doctor
>>44099047>how does lobotomizing and institutionalizing gays act in furtherance of homophobic aims?if its the "its unnatural (disgusted)" crowd, it makes it so they don't have to look at them.if its the "its unnatural (scared)" crowd, it makes it so they feel like the dangers gone awayif its the "its unnatural (pity)" crowd it means they can say they "fixed" it.>Why not just openly brain-fuck gays without the pretense of medicinebecause being in medicine grants you access to those tools. average homophobe might want to do that, but are they really gonna get off their ass and do it? no. or if so, they're gonna become psychiatrists to do so.the thing is even if a movement is organized, that doesn't mean its perfectly rational, or even knows what it wants half the time.
>>44099066So just because something is said to be medical, doesn't mean it's necessarily ethical, and in fact the medicalization may be a pretense?
>>44099103yep. we still live in an evil world
>>44099115What are some other things (modern) where it's said to be medical but it might not actually be?
>>44099103uh huh except daddy blanchard doebeit bc he makes me feel like a real wombyn
>>44099123Circumcision.
>>44099124doesn't he just think ur a delulu homo guy?
>>44099123well. we're on tttt. so uh.-genital mutilation of intersex people-circumcision-limiting access to hrt
>>44099135i was falseflagging to make a joke
>>44099145what's the joke? ur not really hsts?
>>44099157that hsts transmedicalists are in fact delulu
>>44099163but nobody is allowed to question if transness is a legit medical thing?
>>44099171if you're asking me, as its currently considered, its totally not lol. dysphoria symptoms are real, sure, but like the studies trying to show that trans women's brains are more like cis women's and thats what cause it are totally bunk imo.i trust ppl if they say they want to be a woman or feel they'd be happier as one or whatever. i don't trust a doctor on it.
>>44099103What did she mean by this?
>>44099214>dysphoria symptoms are realjust like gayness is a mental illness (was classified as a sociopathy until the 1980s)?
>>44099019top worshippers are so unfunny and annoying.
>>44099233i wouldn't say its equatable when trans people report it themselves vs gay people are told it is by others. and again, i don't trust medical institutions to be scientific with them at all
>>44099233>gays don't want to be lobotomized>trans people actively lobby for their treatment and will go out of their way to do so without a doctor if necessary>"These are somehow the same thing"
>>44099262At one point medical professionals used a subterfuge to convince gays to be incapacitated, but they wouldn't do that anymore. They've changed. I'm sure gays never sought "treatment" or were pressured into doing so.
>>44098602wow this totally isnt in our future again at all lol
>>44099275>I'm sure gays never sought "treatment" or were pressured into doing so.yes, but only because of societal pressures.trans people declare themselves directly against the forces on them.like, imagine i go to the dermatologist, right? and i have this really painful skin condition. derm looks at me for like 2 seconds and says, yep, keratosis. and i'm pretty sure he's talking out of his ass, right. his diagnosis is not real. but i've still got this pain in my skin! thats what my feelings on trans psychiatry are.
>>44099314*incorrect, not 'not real'
>>44099282the past often repeats itself, making minor changes so people become convinced they are doing something totally different
something something dialectical materialism
>>44098602>Why did doctors lobotomize gay men and lesbians in the 1950ssame reason why troons are given troonjuice, its an open secret of experimentation on a willing populace. Doctors are raking in money off trans peoples dangerous delusions.
>>44099355what do they hope to achieve from the troon experiment?
>>44099414probably the same as when they were putting chemicals in the water turning the friggen frogs gay
>>44099436given all the perpetual reeeeeeeeing about "muh degeneracy" you would think they would wish to maintain all frogs as purely heterosexual
>>44099464now im imagining texas congress sweatily deliberating over whether to ban Frog and Toad
>>44099355>doctors, the demographic famously unwilling to even prescribe good doses of E or prog, are experimenting on trannieshow can someone be so stupid?all of our pharmaceutical care is downstream from DIY
>>44099508ur annoying
>>44099977yeah I know
It was their sick fetish. That’s literally it. Doctors had sick fascinations. Anyone who thinks replacing a man’s balls with a donkey’s balls will cure him of anything is either an idiot or one big sick freak LOL.
to keep gays excluded from societya lobotomized gay cannot succeed
Gays and trannies need to stfu and realize their 15 minutes of fame and being considered world's biggest victim is over, and start giving a fuck about sex traits. The World Health Organization removed homosexuality from the International Classification of Diseases in 1990, recognizing that same-sex orientation is not a disease. In 2019, with ICD-11, the WHO removed transgender identities from the chapter on mental disorders, relocating gender incongruence to sexual health to reduce stigma while preserving access to care. In contrast, the WHO has not undertaken a comparable depathologization of variations in sex characteristics (intersex traits).This framework has historically contributed to medically unnecessary interventions performed on children who cannot consent, as well as extreme pressure on even intersex adults to modify their body. These have included cosmetic genital surgeries, gonad removal, hormone treatment intended to induce more typical male or female development, breast reduction or augmentation, laser or electrolysis hair removal, and other procedures whose primary purpose is to make an individual's body conform more closely to conventional male or female norms rather than to treat an immediate health problem or improve mental health.While gay and transgender people have faced discrimination and other forms of abuse, neither homosexuality nor transgender identity has been associated with a practice of routinely surgically mutilating or sterilizing gay or transgender people without their consent for the sake of maintaining heteronormativity / forcing associations with sex traits and reproductive sex to remain binary and linked.
>>44098602most of you would've only benefited from this
>>44099103yes. that's why we have a concept of "medical ethics", shakey and bullshit though it may be>>44099123modifying intersex people, male and female circumcisionchiropractic "maintnence care"the entire opioid epidemicmandatory drug testingvaccine mandates technicallyyou can find more yourself, just ask if the patient could give informed consent and if the care provided was in the patient's best interest, and if it technically violates a human right
