i am a cis man on hrt
>>44197826hi cis man on hrt!!!
>>44197826Cute tummy...
I am a sisman
>>44197826you are a cis man on HRTyou need a cis man off of HRT
Me tooBut I wish I was a girl
>>44197966why is she at norwood 2
>>44197836hiii anon hru>>44197966based>>44197992that’d be nice. i’d probably relate to another cis man on hrt, though…>>44197997why is that? i mean, same, but why?
>>44197826hello cis man on hrt i kinda look like your avatarfag and i hate it
>>44198090because the ai model which generated her had trannies tagged as "women" in the training data
>>44197826How have you been doing since last thread cis man on hrt?
>>44197826tranny
Hello cis man in HRT hope ur welll. I have had a migraine since yesterday and I’m about ready to die
>>44197826cute and plump
i am a sleepy man on hrt
i feel awful today wahhhhhh ich will sterbnboth my head and my tummy hurt uähhhhh
>>44197826Okay. Just taking estrogen or testosterone doesn't change your gender.
Every time I jab myself I wonder how the hell I ended up this way.
Lesbian fetish gone too far
>>44197826incredible choice of image, literally my body type. like i’ve seen other images from this artist but this one really captures it. i wonder how the artist knows unless she’s a tranny herself
we love being cismen on hrt. The Bandaid trick works, i can't believe i was wearing a stupid sporfs bra for well over a year.
>>44199568what is the bandaid trick
>>44199568You still should wear a bra if you have boobs though
>>44198130Why do you consider yourself cis if you wish you were a woman?
very technically speaking I'm a cis man who's had ffs, rib remodeling and srs, uses she/her pronouns, been on hrt for 8 years and has been living with a man for the past 5 years.if any of you is mef, you'll eventually end up like me.
>>44199740Where did you go for ribs remodelling?
>>44199575Ooof bandaids hurt the areolas. Get pasties instead. Save the nips
>>44199751Turkey.
>>44199721op is a self-hating tranny but won't admit to it even after getting outed last thread
I am a straight cis man who wishes he was a straight cis woman.
>>44199740>if any of you is mef, you'll eventually end up like me*gulp*
Big surgery tryna keep .tiddymen down. Throw away your housing and retirement savings for surgery or you arnt effortmaxxing!! You just hate yourself for not having delusional aspirations!!! You self loath different then we self loath so you are invalid. Bunch of shmucks
>>44197826glad youre here! wheres the man who will learn to accept? he still alive?
>>44199849She made a thread yesterday
>>44198306hiii sorry for taking so long to reply>How have you been doing since last thread cis man on hrt?i’ve been doing well surprisingly enough qq. i took my first shot of E earlier today and was pretty afraid at first but i think i did it correctly??>>44198317no>>44198359thank you, anon, and i’m sorry that you’re going through that:<< i hope you get better soon>>44198790me about ten minutes ago>>44199415neinnnn T_T bitte stirb nicht>>44199437who said i was>>44199459me except that i know that something went wrong in my mother’s womb and made me want to take girl hormones
i am ontologically owed homosexual intercoursethe only purpose of existence itself is getting me to share fleshly pleasures with a manand existence is failing miserably at its purpose baka my head
>>44197826ok, tranny
>>44197826How does it feel to be bullied into taking hrt? Hope you become the beautiful girl you alway wanted to be <3
>>44199475lesbians scare me>>44199488cute…>i wonder how the artist knows unless she’s a tranny herselfit’s likely but then again, japanese women can be pretty freaky>>44199568i might have to do the same sooner or later >>44199721>Why do you consider yourself cis if you wish you were a woman?because i feel like i’d be crying and despairing over not being a woman. i also don’t really see myself as one and instead some sort of gnc creature>>44199740me in a decade except that i don’t have mef>>44199781>>44200376can you go away? how many times are you going to repeat this shit?>>44199849i think she made a thread yesterday? i also noticed that she’s begun alternating between posting at 5pm and 12am (my time) likely thanks to her new job
>>44200392shut up tranny
>>44200325atp, do you go by anything other than estro boy? und du bist deutsch? also how had you been doing hrt b4 if you only did your first injection now?
>>44200392>[see myself as] some sort of gnc creature>except that i don’t have mefYou don't have mef, YET <3>me in a decadeWait till you catch mef and fall in love with a guy. I thought I can slowwalk this too, heh.
>>44200451Is it true all reppers develop mef?
>>44200469I don't think so, no.But then again I'm an utterly fake tranny so there was nothing to repress.
>>44200540Do you see yourself as an emasculated man? Does transitioning that far give you peace?
>>44200392> me in a decade except that i don’t have mefNta but you want to use she/her pronouns in the future?
>>44200572>Do you see yourself as an emasculated man?Failed male, mefperv, srsoid mef, something in that department. "Man" would be quite a stretch to describe me atp lol.>Does transitioning that far give you peace?Euphoria, to be more precise. I like my life now.
I saw a youngshit passoid while taking the bus, even her voice passed.I wish I had started hrt sooner, now I'm stuck as a man.
>>44200616Do you see yourself often or is it more like your general sense of self?
>>44200642>passoid>clocker her
i saw a man dressed in a business suit walking in the streets on the phone and he looked just like david byrne from the once in a lifetime video but without glassespeak cis man on hrt fashion and physiology?
>>44200682lmao. hey I just don't think everyone else could tell I'm just mentally ill
>>44200693I guess, not feminine enough to pass a woman but with nice enough features to eunuchmaxx
>>44200693for me i wanna dress like ralph cifaretto
>>44200661sorry, im not sure I understand the qyou mean if i think about me being a failed male often? if that is the question, then ig yes because it's a sexual thing and I have sex at least 5 times a week, usually more often.10 years ago I was waking up with a morning wood next to my gf. Now I wake up with breasts and a neovagina looking at my bf's morning wood. Hard to escape how much i failed as a male.>your general sense of selfOutside is no big deal anymore. I got used to womanmoding (since I look like one even naked without makeup) and life just goes on.
>>44200642I'm the person in the background of this image
can someone whos 5'10 and has wide shoulders and over 30 enjoy an mef cis male on hrt lifestyle? im also straight. or is it better to just be a normal guy?
>>44200393you first fag>>44200397>atp, do you go by anything other than estro boy?ppl call me cisman/cis man on hrt but i’m way too embarrassed to say what i’m called qq.>und du bist deutsch?nein, ich bin kanadier xdi used to study a bit of german back in like 2016>also how had you been doing hrt b4 if you only did your first injection now?PILLHON</33333kms bc i’m not smart enough to figure out diy and crypto>>44200451i’m scared, mefperv:< i don’t wanna be a failed maleeee dude>>44200582>Nta but you want to use she/her pronouns in the future?if it becomes too difficult to maintain a male identity and present as a man, then probably. though it’ll probably take years for any of that to happen desu>>44200642i’m sorry. >>44201243it’s really up to you in the end, anon:o i’d do it for the skin and hair benefits if i were you
>>44197826Im a cis male on hrt too! :D
>>44201310>i don’t wanna be a failed maleeeeyou're on that path anyway and you like it. the only control you really have is the speed.>scaredyeah IKTF. I recently read some stuff I wrote for myself in 2018 just when I started. It's hilarious how scared I was over this whole thing.
>>44201310tranny
>>44201310girl calls herself marcelle btw:3
I want to be a princess (dad)
>>44201480wwait, that's fucking adorable "man cis estrogen" marcelle (a tiny amount of my neurons connected for that)is marcie fine?but also maybe don't "girl" cis man on hrt
>>44201310>PILLHON</33333is it really that bad? im trying to fight my phobia of needles but i know that once i pick one up im going to immediately faint. its annoying but i was thinking of just doing sublingual forever. but i also dont want to half ass my transition.
>>44202182pills are the definition of halfassing your transitionliterally anything else is betterneedles arent as scary as they look and if its really bad for you look into estrapenthey ship insulin pens with e
>>44202277but still, even sublingual? oral i get but surely sublingual is a fine second choice. plus i was once with a girl that did oral and she looked nice.
>>44202182>>44202277>>44202316gynokadin+bica is your friend, unironically.no needles, but also no none of the side effects of pill honing. also better control of the dosage.
>>44202358ill think about it but its really expensive, isnt it? also, taking pills makes me feel like tony soprano taking his prozac so i like it for that. meanwhile injections make me feel like christopher doing heroin which i dont like.
>>44202374Nta but pills w a blocker can work for some people. I'd take it sublingually spaced out throughout the day to increase effectiveness, and don't underdose. However, injections are more effective and cheaper in general, so I'd really consider that instead
>>44202427yeah my only worry with sublingual is doing it mid work day and getting called to a meeting or something where i have to talk. i wonder if i can swing twice a day with a high enough dose instead of three or four. still that and the monetary cost are probably worth it over terrorizing myself with a needle weekly.
i want to go 2 sleep its 1:45 where i live but i just had a smut idea and i cant go to sleep cus i really want to write it and also i already took a nap this afternoon because i had a migraine so ig my sleep schedule is fucked now
welcome to cis man on e general, we got nonas like this>>44202599
>>44202599You gotta tell us the smut idea now
>>44202374>its really expensive, isnt it?depends where you are and how complicated is the way to get it.Where I am it's like 45 euros for 3x80 (3 boxes of 80g) which is not cheap but not brutally expensive either.
>>44202691an old guy whose name is an anagram of callicles fucks a twink called david and its supposed to be a metaphor for pagans being nobler than christians or something (and david is a self insert)also its in trochaic hexameter and in medieval spanish dont ask me why
>>44202729>turboautismmy erection died even faster than it dies when I take my estrogen shot.
>>44202729Waow
>>44202755why do you think i have to resort to writing smutif i was worthy of love id do the real thing with my bf
>>44202729que pedo por que hablan asiwhy do they talk like that?
>>44201480>marcellelike marceline the vampire queen ?
>stuck in boymoder hell for months bc of a vicious cycle of getting nervous about stares>decide to girlmode for a work event because we were getting pictures taken and i'm out already at work>very few stares from outsiders >had to run errands after work>fewer stares, but some teenagers saw me and one of them took a second look and exclaimed "holy shit! it's true!" (rough translation) and laughed loudly (i'm guessing i passed and one of them made a comment about me/my body only to be corrected that "that's a man dumbass")>went out with a more androgynous boymode yesterday and some man stopped me to interrogate me with something that could translate like a repeated "young man? young woman? are you a young man or a young woman?">decide to dress like a butch lesbian today bc fuck it>no stares at allwtf nobody told me i could be a passoid. I can't be fucked to train my voice or wear makeup everyday but it seems i oughta for safety... Never thought a twinkhon like me could .. make it? Am i delusional and putting myself at risk if i stop boymoding? should i go all the way or just dyke it up?t. 1.5 years on e
I am a sysadmin
>>44203248Lmao I named myself after her... Though sometimes I wonder if I have enough aura for the name. I'm just a silly autist. Marcelle feels a little more approachable... Should I steal it?t. definitely not a cis man
>>44203457Depends on how annoyed you'd be if you got clocked bc of it desuGreat aura but you'd have to put up with ppl asking either too excitedly or with cringe about Adventure Time and/or being trans
>>44203311did they see you as a girl or a boy when you went out looking like a butch dyke
>>44203501kinda embarrasing how much i think about female names given that I'm a permamoid on hrt...
>>44201321based>>44201407fuuuuUUUUCCKif it’s inevitable then i might as well try to accept it. i was always kinda faggy anyways so maybe it’ll be a good thing>>44201480can you not? i don’t appreciate you doing this sort of thing>>44201507me too, anon. me too. i’d be prettiest and most cold hearted gothic princess in the world>>44201526>>44203248i just thought the name was nice and not overly soft/feminine qq>>44203457skinwalker moment
>>44203630if u dont want her to steal it then u should start using that name everywhere:3
>>44203630>if it’s inevitableIf you don't stop E, then yeah, it kinda is.But no need to be scared, really.I mean, in 10 years I went from living with my long term gf as a straight dude to a failed dickless male with boobs living with a long term bf. If you had told me 10 years ago that this would be me I would've told you you're crazy.>>44199791I was a straight cis man. I'm aaaalmost a straight cis woman now, kek.
>>44203621not sure, only know i received no stares and no comments today, and when i boymode ppl stare a lot. I'm a slightly large a cup / b cup (haven't measured in a while and dont wear any bras except one that's a b cup that i mostly fill)
gn cis man dont let them bully u
>>44197826I am too as of yesterday :3
Cis da man
>>44197826What sort of music do you listen to
Same! Straight cis men on HRT are valid and deserve rights and recognition!!
Estrogen just helps with my cross dressing hobby
>>44203630>skinwalker momentWOW. Okay. I see how it is. The name's trademarked... Marceline it is.
>>44197826Why are slightly pudgy boymoders so cute?
I want to kiss a boymoder with a belly like that
>>44206049>>44206058not op but ayato is a 21 year old MAN
>>44203738aaaaa that sounds nice. i’m happy for you mefperv>>44204584i’m not. thank you for your concern, though>>44205410yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaUt0PsjFJMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FhsUlnvCHQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2fU029ecshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3gu1UIT7yY+hatsuki yura, poppy, mitski, melanie martinez>>44205720literally me desu>>44206006thank you for understanding nona:>>>44206049>>44206058ayase is 21yrs old and he is a man thank you
>>44207470tranny tranny tranny tranny trannyyou are a TRANNY
>>44203801it sounds good, congrats!
>>44207620Leave her alone
>>44207620anon i would like to know your reasoning as to WHY you think i’m a tranny without spamming that word>>44207635>her
>>44208520i had to do a lil bit of digging to find this looool>uses a female name online>fave aesthetic is gothic/gothic lolita, discord account is literally themed around it>types using emojis that no cis man would ever use, including kaomojis>used to pretend to be a girl from 2014-2017>grew up the youngest out of 7 other siblings>listens to mitski, poppy, and classical music>wants to become a ball-jointed dollalso>sexually attracted to men, romantically attracted to women>grew up around women>fucking VOICE TRAININGi know u say that ur doing ts for cosplay purposes but girl come tf on
>>44209355bitch also enjoys Y U R IU R A TRANNYYYYITS OK TO IDENTIFY AS SUCH
>>44209355>>44209373okay but that doesn’t prove anything considering how people are allowed to like anything. guys can like lolita and be princesses too. just because they don’t fit into your little box, doesn’t mean they are this or that. me included
>>44210086keep coping tranny you can't keep running foreveralso stop saging like u can hide from me>:(((((((
>>44210138Shut up pinkpiller groomer
>>44209355>types using emojis that no cis man would ever use, including kaomojisridiculous, lol. anyone uses whatever emojis one wants.>sexually attracted to men, romantically attracted to womenaka most bisexual men.>grew up the youngest out of 7 other siblingsthat makes one a troon now? I'm the eldest of 4 siblings and I'm a fake troon. now what?anon, seriously, this is crazy.
>>44209355Some of these are so asinine it boggles the mind. >Thinks goth is sick as fuck like 15% of the general population>Uses emojis, disregard usefulness in communicating very specific emotions or feelings>Have older siblings>Listen to classical as if its not called classic for a reason (also mitski is a mood)>Have a mom and sisters >Enjoys yuri cause even 2000s era guy movies knew guys just HATE watching hot women make outEven some of the 'better' reasons aren't foolproof. If you've heard your own voice recorded I think deciding you want something different is so natural regardless of identity. Let people be people. I've met cismen with waaaaaay more eccentric tendencies. They walk among you you just don't see them.
>>44210255>>44210316>>44210366ok but are we forgetting that op used to scream into her pillow prior to starting hormones? bitch literally admitted to it multiple times
>>44210763not any of those anons but so fucking what?I got on the hormones because I didn't like what my body was turning into. I probably screamed into my pillow once or twice too, kek. I don't think that made/makes me a troonAlso, really, what's so wrong with looking like a foid but maintaining a male identity?t. hrt femfag, 9 years
>>44197826Can we hear you're voice training cis man? Ive also been training as a cis guy for voice acting but I suck
>>44199740How did you get the money for it? I once had someone offer to pay for that stuff but I got mad at them.Maybe I’ve gotten weak since . Low key, it would be nice to get to be a girl…But then I remember I have a sense of pride. The scary thing is if someone did offer it, I probably would take it and just flip back to ‘I’m a twink, I just like androgyny’ if I didn’t like it
>>44211030>How did you get the money for it?Job. I just worked and saved up. I had a good job. Still do. And I'm good with money. Not rich, but definitely not poor.I also took some loans on top of it (that I have since paid off).Trannymaxxing is more often than not a rich (wo)man's game. Though it's no longer as expensive as it used to be.>But then I remember I have a sense of prideYeah, that was the first to go. Pride is for real men. I'm not one. I'm a failed fag. I uphold my bf's (hopefully soon husband's) pride.>take it and just flip back to ‘I’m a twink, I just like androgyny’ if I didn’t like itThe question to me wasn't whether i'd like it or not, but rather whether it'd work. If it hadn't worked out, I would've been yet another flaming faggot (still would've gotten srs tho).I can't actually pull androgyny now even if I want to. I pass as a mediocre foid no matter what (small skull by amab standards and 170cm height definitely help). I absolutely do see myself as feminine/submissive sexually, but I still don't quite see myself as a woman socially. I larp as one, but that's about it. I'm still overall happy that I did all this even if in the future something might go wrong.Being a fag was not really feasible for me anyway long term. But being a woman works out quite well. I don't really miss anything. And sexually I enjoy to be reminded that I used to be straight man.
>>44210138>>44210763may i ask why you care so much about my identity? i’m not doing anything or hurting anyone and i’m pretty sure i have an idea of who i am and who i want to become, anon>>44210985i don’t know. i’m still pretty shit and i mainly sing to help with my voice and try to apply the feeling when speaking normally.
This "cis man in hrt" finger pointing "he's a tranny just admit it" kinda crazy but at least to me it feels like mental illness to the finger being pointed to, at least how it looks to met. trooned our for cosplay purposes before 20 but still say things like "I am not a lesbian" or "I don't have gender dysphoria i just have BDD" so I might be on the same group as the cis man on hrt but just really don't identify as a cis man either
whats everyones norwood level?>mfw early, if not set in, norwood 3
Cis man you should think about making this a monthy or bimonthly thread. It's basically become a general atp and generals always attract schizos.
>>44212622>It's basically become a general atpthat's the good part, lowk>schizosoh welp.
I want to have passionate, romantic, unprotected anal sex with you and get you pregnant, cis man on HRT
>>44212622There should be a gen thread for cis men on hrtT. Another cis man on hrt
>>44212684Someone made one months ago but I guess no one cared enough to do a new one. Also as we see in this thread, everyone here is convinced we're either trannies or reppers and those both have generals so no dice.
>>44212674I want to rape him into becoming my cock hungry boywife.
>>44212587 I got on hrt after experience norwood 1 and never looked back, everyone made fun of my temples and my mom even bought me minoxidil before I got into hrt>wow anon I'm glad the oil that I got you is working so well ^^,,,yeah, thanks mom
>bf wakes me up, gropes my breasts, turns me around and bones me raw with (almost) no prep>cum harder than i have in months. twice>he cums in me while shakingduring the afterglow:>wow, nona, you really love taking a dick>stop calling me nona>nona, a guy would've turned around for his turn to top>you know i dont really hard and i don't insist anyway>yeah, nona, that's what I'm saying>stop calling me nona>okay, but you really should consider embracing girlhood. you do feel, move and smell like a girl atp and it's really hot>yk i've been taking girljuice, glad that you like the outcome>i do, but it's now turning on my bi side>... oh...>no, seriously! i'm seeing you more and more as my gf now and that's excitinguh oh. this wasn't supposed to happen.
maybe ye think yer a femmy guyor maybe ye think yer too cis to cryso ye went to de 'chinz justa give it a try
tranny princess
I to am a cis man on hrt but guys tend to take me home and use me for my holes so I don't get it
>>44197826must...grope....cisman's tummy.......
>>44214527awwww...repper egg cracking, cute. I habeeb in you nona. Your bf sounds sweet :3
>>44215189>repper egg crackingI've been on girljuice for 4 years. Calling me a repper egg would be quite a stretch. I know I'm mef and that my future is female. I'm just trying to manage the situation. This is me >>44199813>Your bf sounds sweetHe really is. It's just I'm not ready to be forcefemmed, yet. I know I need it and goddamn it I crave it.My bf is aware of all of this but the push from this morning was way more intense than before. It didn't feel like playful at all.I literally can't afford social transition. But ig I can't postpone it for much longer. I'm already out as a girly fag and I 'fem'-ish mode in public quite often. But if I were to be full time and claim that I'm a woman, I'd be in very deep shit socially and economically. I'd be fired relatively soon and since it's a relatively small community, it'd be quite difficult to find new employment.I gotta get outta here first before any of that can happen.Errr.... tonight's gonna be an interesting and long convo with my bf.
>>44215294aw...well, I'm sorry it got so intense with him and the consequences are so steep. If it's any consolation, I have experience living out of a car and can offer advice - in fact I leave my bf today after I pack my last load of stuff, and for the next month or two I'm in my car again.It gets better nona, just hold on and don't lose hope.
>>44203738how do I learn to accept this is also my fate and kill the male ego? how do you deal with disappointing your family?
>>44199774more deets pls
>>44212622>complaining about schizos in the historic schizo website
>>44215313>I leave my bf today>for the next month or two I'm in my car againWhy?That sounds really shitty.>consequences are so steepThey're steep if I act recklessly. I just won't do that. We're gonna plan this out like adults.>nonaStop calling me nona. I will (very likely) be nona at some point in the future, but I'm not now.
im a misrable sonovubitcham i a bwæ or a laydee i donno hwitch
>>44215332Alright, sorry, I just wanted to be encouraging but I understand this is a sore spot and transition isn't so simple or instant...As for bf...it's complicated. I won't get too into it but the second I moved in he turned into a really negative, invalidating and mean person. It's been 9 to 10 months and it's only gotten worse. When he found out I got a blood test to see my T and E levels he interrogated me about my plans - I told him a long time ago that I would try HRT as soon as I get the chance but I guess he got attached to having his...hairy manly bear around, judging by the fact he never calls me by the name I chose for myself. He paid rent but it felt like a manipulation tactic, to make me feel like I owe him sex because he won't let me pay him back in a normal way...
>>44197826maybe you answered this already but how long have you been taking e? are you having your levels checked regularly?
>>44215318>kill the male ego?I have no intention of doing that. I accepted I'm a failed male a long time ago, even before i started shooting girljuice. So I don't have much of a specifically male ego to begin with.I want what I want and I'm slowly getting what I want within the constraints of reality.You should do the same. Start working towards what you want. It never goes away so might as well embrace it.>how do you deal with disappointing your family?I genuinely don't give a fuck. Like, seriously!Not only it is partly their fault too but also, more generally, I don't owe anyone anything. Everything I have, and I mean absolutely everything, was built by me. I've been working since age 14 (minimum legal work age in my country) and been supporting myself ever since. Heck, I paid their bills too until I left their home.I never "came out" to my parents. Mom just assumed I'd be a faggot anyway, kek. Dad asked me point blank last year if I'm trooning and I told him "kinda. idk. but i do take estrogen" and that was the end of the convo. I rarely talk to them since they usually want money.The extended family is "disappointed" but I can't hear them because I made no secret of just how few fucks I have available to give about their dopey opinions about anything.I am a failed male, but I am also an adult with separate agency and a life to live. I have no intention of living my life being concerned with the approval of people whose opinions I can't even pretend to respect and have no reason to.I care what my lover thinks and my employer. And am on the lookout to change the employer, haha.
>>44215439You sound like a really strong person, anon. You're the person I wish homelessness made me, but didn't quite. But maybe with transition I can train those powers too. I already came out to my mom and excommunicated my dad - while mom struggles to wrap her head around it she's at least willing to talk about it in bits and pieces even if she does like to send me detransitioner testimonies.
>>44215439I'm a detrans fag. Social pressure was too much in the end. And I feel the loneliness I would have as a trans woman when I get old would be worse than as an old man. Once you are 40 what men are going to be with you? If you have a bf he'll go for a younger one, it's always like that and unless you like 60 y/o men your life becomes a hellish lonely one.T4T isnt a solution bc I dont like other trans people except for some random xasual sex or sharing a guy.
>>44215475and yeah sorry for my english not native etc
>>44200812was passing or ability to pass a pretty important prerequisite for it to work
>>44202182i genuinely think there is something to starting w pills on a "hondose" w an AA and slowly ramping up. Too high a dose too fast and you could stunt boob growth
>>44215465>she does like to send me detransitioner testimoniesMy folks don't speak English. And those don't exist outside of the anglosphere. Tranny testimonies in most other languages are neutral, cautionary or happy. Detrans really isn't a thing, culturally speaking.Still, I watch those myself. I don't despise the detrooners. Most of them are good people. The amab ones, I mean. Theyfabs... errr... let's just say idgaf.>>44215475Your english is not your native tongue (neither is mine) but you have internalized american bullshit though.>Once you are 40 what men are going to be with you? If you have a bf he'll go for a younger one, it's always like thatThis is simply not true. If it were always like that then there would be zero women over 40 who are still married.Also, let's not pretend that the youth worshiping culture isn't at its peak in the gay male scene.Still, I'm an individual, not a statistic. I refuse to live my life based on global statistics.Statistically people like me at my age have had 7+ sexual partners, have had at least one STD and 50% have HIV. Also 2/3 have done some form of sex work, have been homeless, and are usually underemployed or straight up NEETS. Meanwhile I had 2 sexual partners, no STDs ever, never been homeless, never even as much sent a single nude, been working since age 14 and am financially secure (to a certain extent; definitely above the median of both men and women my age).Point being, you are an individual, not a statistic. Living your life out of fear of what might happen when you're 40 is not healthy. We're all going to get old, ugly and die mostly alone, regardless of what we do.Don't get me wrong, I ain't judging you for detrooning. We're on the estrogenized faggots thread. But I am judging you for the overall mentality. It's not a healthy one, anon.>T4T isnt a solutionWe absolutely agree on that, lul.
>>44215362>sorryNo worries. It's not a sore spot. I already know what I want. It's just that this morning was a wake up call that the timeline I had in mind may need to be readjusted.It's mostly in jest when I whine about being called nona. I know I'll just be another fake trans, but idgaf.>bf situationSorry you have to go through that. It truly does suck. Hope you find a solution pretty fast. Living in a car sounds rough af.Now I realize that I phrased my initial post a bit too dramatically. My bf knew me since before I started taking E but we hooked up when I was already 9 (?) months on it and I told him right from the beginning that he should expect me to become more foided and that long term I may want to troon for real, surgeries and all. And his reaction was, I shit you not: "So I get a cute bf that may at some point turn into my wife? Fuck, I hope we'll be able to get along!"So it's not like there's any surprise. We've been together for over 3 years and we're saving up to fuck off from this place (his family is far worse than mine, errr long story).
>>44215757>This is simply not true. If it were always like that then there would be zero women over 40 who are still married.How many trans women over 40 are married? In a world where even cis women are finding it hard to marry, c'mon. Not even mentioning the difficulty of marrying when you won't be able to give children to a man.>Point being, you are an individual, not a statistic. Living your life out of fear of what might happen when you're 40 is not healthy. We're all going to get old, ugly and die mostly alone, regardless of what we do.Yes but living old as a man who isn't dependent on big pharma is not the same as a trans woman who is plus all the social consequences and alienation that comes from it.>Don't get me wrong, I ain't judging you for detrooning. We're on the estrogenized faggots thread. But I am judging you for the overall mentality. It's not a healthy one, anon.I know, I know, even if you judged me for trooning/detrooning I wouldn't blame you since only very stupid people like myself go through all the trauma that is coming out of the closet to their entire family and friends to only get inside of it again. I only wish I just dealt with all this shit as a teen or early 20s. I appreciate the raw input and point of view. I feel most of my repression always came from fear of old age and loneliness _besides_ what other might say, clocking and the usual stuff.
>>44215910>How many trans women over 40 are married?You wouldn't know because trans women over 40 have the benefit of wisdom and stopped living their lives in public a long time ago (and most never did).You also need to remember that it's still illegal in many places (or legally difficult).>In a world where even cis women are finding it hard to marryBollocks. Get your head out from radicalizing American/angloid internet bubbles and look around you. The vast majority of 40+ year old cis women (75%+) are either married or in stable long term relations. Of the remainder, over 2/3 actively do not want a relationship, not that they can't find one.The 'crisis' is fake. It's turboautists and shut-ins being intentionally amplified in algorithmic bubbles for the purpose of demoralizing stupid zoomers. And it works, because zoomers are very, very stupid as a cohort - the first generation to be objectively and measurably more retarded than the previous generation (as a statistical rule, ofc, exceptions exist).>living old as a man who isn't dependent on big pharmaNigga by the time you're 70, you ARE dependent on big pharma whether you like it or not. How many men aged 60+ you know who are not on at least one prescription drug?Globally, up to 40% of all adults are on 5 or more (!!) prescription drugs. And 95% of men aged 60+ are on at least one (and that's in Europe, a continent that medicates less than Burgeristan).Sorry, but you're just wrong. You're regurgitating vibes and demoralization talking points that come from enshitified American algorithmic bubbles. Those are not reality, my friend.We are all gonna age out and die. That's the only certainty. How we age and what we do until then can make this more or less pleasant. Trooning/looksmaxxing is one tool. It's not for everyone and that's also fine.
>>44215821Car life honestly isn't so bad, as long as you keep your living space and self clean, have safe places to park at night, and get a storage space to clear room in the car. I actually have a lot of experience in my car by now so I at least know I will survive.
>>44215319Acibadem Network. Had it in Izmir.They are known to reject patients though. Just a fair warning.>>44215496Yes. Although IRL passing bar is way lower than you're made to think on X/Instangram/4chan.Just like with cis people, social media personalities, even tranny microcelebs are not representative of the general population.Physically passing as an unremarkable woman is hard, but nowhere near as hard as it's claimed online.If you're not super tall, voice passes (even partially) and you dress like normal women in your area usually dress, then that's 70%+ of the job. FFS raises that to 99%.The hard part is soulpassing. Online trannies love to dismiss socialization as unimportant but it really is important if you're going to have a functional life too.I trooned for the fetish, but I wanted to actually continue to live my life after trooning.
i may look woke on the outsidebut on the inside glaup' ich, Frauen sind zu toeten...
>>44212536and a random string of nonsense to you too, anonno but i think most if its coming from the fact that i don’t have many masculine interests and don’t rlly fit into their definition of masculinity but idk>>44212587norwood -1 babyyyyy i got a full set of hair >>44212622probably, but there are going to be crazy ppl regardless of when i make these threads>>44212674>>44213475rape is bad mmkay? i just wanna be held and told that everything is going to be okay:<
>>44214527giwtwm. happy for you anon>>44214880>>44215351hi lyricanon hru>>44215108no. not yet anyway>>44215382>but how long have you been taking e?i have terrible memory but i think i started july of last year? >are you having your levels checked regularly?no i’m just winging it and praying that things work out xd>>44216573i feel like i should know who this is but then again your typing styles are way too different also hi
>>44217896>hi lyricanon hruhiiii im fine ty>no i’m just winging it and praying that things work out xdbased
>>44199475Not possible, I’ve always identified as male, always been used to physically being neotenous and other people thinking I’m cute. This is about keeping the status quo.If anything I hate how physical boyishness is basically seen as a woman thing only in adult humansWhyWhy do they expect/want men to get basedface>>44211450>Pride is forFairy tale princes and I’ve been called, right down to my voice, an effete ‘British’ (just because my accent, I don’t like bong) prince. Incredibly cringe but I liked dark fairy tales as a kid and it must have left a markI know I’m complaining about “dysphoria” but that’s really stress from knowing twink mode won’t last forever, and the gap between running a castrated boy shell and an adult job where a lot of people don’t take me seriously. And also micropenis and bottoming, and also being mistaken for female has been nice sometimes… but people in the past have made a big mistake by trying to humiliate or emasculate me. It gets the exact opposite effect they want. I almost got a mastectomy to spite someone.>170cm height definitely helpTall shoes, binding, attitude. Emphasize being as lean as possible so it just looks twinky. I’m even shorter than you and it helps.Also feminine twinks/femboys seem to be popular in 2026. So I’m genuinely gaining from holding this state as long as possible.
I wish i were cis male on hrt but i'm too ugly to bother Also would really love to have friends to play vidya with
>>44217896>Started july of last yearHave you started experiencing the effects? How is your chest growth cause I started a few months after and I'm flat aft. Another cis man on hrt
>>44218366Cismoid, have you actually ever said why you want to be on hrt?
>>44218655To look cute asca male
>>44218674asca?
>>44218701As a*
>>44218674>>44218753That's a perfectly fine reason to get on hrt tho
>>44218760this. just do it for looksmaxxing purposes
>>44218770Wouldnt work since im really ugly
>>44218774Just do it, it was at least help with hair loss prevention and softer skin
I genuinely don’t know why I call basedface men sissy. It’s funny because they’re what the media calls “feminine men” but they’re bald, don’t know fashion and don’t have female skills like sewing and smell bad and mostly just gape mouth and gurgle voice.If this is a sissy feminine man then the HRTwink must be a sigma. Intelligent, energetic, willing to bend rules if there is a good cause and having feminine and masculine talents.Whatever it is, baseditis is my phobia and has been a phobia since even before basedjak was a meme. I need to figure out why the numale became my shadow archetype.
>>44211592>>44212536i care because you come off as the type to act willfully ignorant, retard. almost everything about you gives off tranny vibes despite the fact that you constantly go:>nooooo guys i'm totally not a tranny!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!111!!!it's really obvious sometimes that you are indeed coping and even if you aren't a tranny, you definitely aren't cis either.
>>44218248that’s good to hear. i’m glad you’re doing well:>>>44218366hrtbaiting as usual i see>Also would really love to have friends to play vidya withsame but unfortunately i don’t think i have the right kind of games to play w ppl desu (ffxiv and splatoon are my main games)>>44218390>Have you started experiencing the effects?very much so, yes. the mental changes have been noticeable (calmer, less angry and horny) and it’s been pretty nice thus far>How is your chest growth cause I started a few months after and I'm flat afgrowth has been negligible so far due to me being on pills until a few days ago. my nipples have been pretty sore and have to wear larger/stretchier shirts in order to keep them from rubbing against them>>44219027hey i remember you>>44219355if it pisses you off in particular then yeah i am a cis man. like, i don’t even know who you are, anon. our lives are worlds apart and whatever i do doesn’t affect you at all
these threads are the heavenly ray
>>44219982fuck you but whatever. the troonwood reaper will come after you sooner or later
>>44219982also i would like to know if this is you:v>>>44219085
>>44219027Feminine men are really kind of fucked. The only feminine men are trannies. The type of man you describe sounds like Oscar Wilde, but such levels of will and intellect aren't present in many women. Then you have mega gay twinks who just give satanic vibes. Then soiboys who are just low T not feminine. I guess some more reserved polite twinks are feminine, maybe more down to earth types, and then you get autistic agp types who are somewhat, finally trannies are feminine but they identify as girls so I don't know if they count.
>>44219982I’m sorry, I’m fucked up and was already obsessing on the basedjak since before he became a meme. Basedjak is a caricature of twink death personified and I know for a fact it has brain melted more than one twink into hrt.>>44220379I’m just fucked up and was born with a baby face and got used to being called cute, and also loved studying teratology so I independently discovered the onions/twink death phenotype that males are cursed with and decided id suffer anything to avoid it.I’m not a tranny and after some friends tried to bully me into trooning and I realized I was getting too close to mtfing I panicked and picked up male skills I had previously neglected such as being athletic/a runner, and learning some outdoors and firearms skills.I still have my old skills like fine arts and sewing. I’m also PhD scientist but I hate science and it happened by accident.Maybe I can be the Oscar wild type? Probably not I’m pretty sick in the head and reactive. My former friends claim I’m hateful and bigoted but I don’t think so. I just fear the onions
>>44220923How do you even get to live and have personality lol.I just sit at home and do nothing. Burnt 3 weeks of summer doing fucking nothing and sleeping 18 hours a day.Its fucking over.
>>44220227that sounds pretty gay>>44220330i doubt it. i’m pretty confident in my identity>>44220365does it really matter if it is or isn’t me? i don’t hate my mom, not really anyway.>>44220923it’s okay, anon. i understand the brainworms can get pretty bad but i think it’s important that you don’t lose yourself over these thoughts>>44221042you should be turned into a living doll whose only purpose is to prettily rest upon one’s shelf (lovingly)
>>44221117I would hate that
im a hrt man on hrt
>>44221117>does it really matter if it is or isn’t me? i don’t hate my mom, not really anyway.i'll take that as a yes thenbtw do you have bpd or have a history of mental illness in ur senpai?:3
>>44203738>I was a straight cis man. I'm aaaalmost a straight cis woman nowWaow based
>>44221123good>>44221163me>>44221166why do you keep asking me these weird ass questions? are you a fed?
>>44221655>why do you keep asking me these weird ass questions? are you a fed?no but i am trying to build a you ^_^
>>44221655Can I have sex with you? I love you.
>>44221042I don’t have a personality. I pretend to be normal since the unstated “compromise” I had with my parents was I outwardly seem successful and they don’t interfere with hrt/whatever I’m doing. This is why thanks to inertia I accidentally finished a doctorate.Also I spiral if I have nothing to do. And also I’m flighty so the hobby/skill building I’m focusing on changes by the year/month. I genuinely feel bad for irl people who see me as a twink/femboy role model.>>44221117I kind of did but it’s okay. Fear was probably the only reason I avoided twink death. I never wanted to be a woman so I knew there was no rational reason to hrt and yet I’d already seen what twink death did to others. Stupid but people have a right to not basedface.
>>44218259>Also feminine twinks/femboys seem to be popular in 2026. So I’m genuinely gaining from holding this state as long as possibleWish you good luck, anon. But we both know that at some point there will still be a decision to make. And you already don't want to age as a man (perfectly understandable and relatable).>people in the past have made a big mistake by trying to humiliate or emasculate meYeah, it's hot only if you like it and it's done lovingly.I avoided the bad faith part because I moved very fast from 'straight man' to mefperv (de facto) wife. The pandemic lockdowns also didn't leave enough room for others to notice.What you need is to reframe your own mind without thinking too much at others except your lover (if you have one). I wanted to become a submissive loyal wife to my lover and that mattered more than anyone else thought/believed.>unstated “compromise” I had with my parentsYou're an adult, anon. You gotta move away mentally from the teenage mentality that what your parents believe matters.
i heard a story, could be trueabout a man on hrtyou couldnt see him with your eyesor invent with intellect
>>44222215how old r u
>>44218259>Also feminine twinks/femboys seem to be popular in 2026. So I’m genuinely gaining from holding this state as long as possibleAre they? Maybe I'm not out in the real world enough but the online LGBT thinks they're embarrassing. Probably not much better out in the real world with how chuddy things are. I can only imagine them being popular with dirty old men or people who came of age around peak femboy times in 2018/2019.
>>44221655>>44221792Me first. I will be gentle and will help you turn into a princess if you'll allow me.
>>44222853nta but twinky boys have always been en vogue
>>44222859I hope so. I really worry about getting a woman. The only one I've gotten with was obese and had bpd. I tried asking out another one because she said I was cute but rejected me because I wasn't man enough. I'm terrified of dating again.
I need to bounce you up and down my cock
>>44222853>b-b-but online>Probably not much better out in the real worldCancerous mentality.There's no way this can be described otherwise.The Internet is not real life. Least of all now since all internet has been taken over by enshitified algorithmic bubbles.According to online lgbt spaces I don't exist or I'm a dangerous predator. According to the people I actually interact with, I'm a normal straight woman. In a way both are wrong, kek.Stop taking things so fucking seriously. Life is not supposed to be that serious and so bloody neurotic.
>>44222869well ig the general public is at least accepting of ephebes because they arent obscene to look at but when it comes to actively liking them maybe its more of an acquired tasteand whether you think its bad or not women are usually part of the masses and if you want an actually distinguished woman you have to really aim high, not to mention most of them will just want someone to take care of themso your options are either an exceptionally distinguished woman or cougars, androphiles have it better methinketh
>>44223019>most of them will just want someone to take care of themGod I hope I'm lucky enough not to get this. I already spent two years basically mothering my fucking manchild of an ex, I never wanna do that again. For all her faults at least the bpd one was on an even playing field with me.>cougarsNot a bad option tbdesu>androphiles have it betterPreaching to the choir here. I guess I'm not gonna totally count out men but at the same time they need to be on hrt like us or at least finasteride. Yes I'm that shallow and vain.
>>44221655i feel like you're the type to hit someone and then blame them for making you hit them in the first place and it's making me feel things,,,,,,,,,,
>>44223334You mean you want OP to abuse you? I think he’s more likely to be the abusee than anything else. Lol.
