>>44207546
Theyfab is a slur

>>44207546
There are only like 1-2 on this board

>>44207551
I didn't realize that, sorry

>>44207556
is it (>>44207551) and theyfabanon?

>>44207551
Did you forget what website you're on? People use slurs on this board all the time.

not exactly a theyfab but mttheyfab so idk ignore this if you don't count it
for me it's not something that has an identifiable cause; i just don't feel any connection to manhood or womanhood. i live as a woman because i took the hormones that make your body look female but i don't feel "like a woman" or anything. i am going to get a binder soon (i hope) and try andromoding...i think that would be nice

>>44207551
lol no
you're retard

>>44207618
I think OP wants AFAB people who use they to answer the question

>>44207551
omg really? i guess i'll go back to calling them retarded faggots

>>44207618
you're the only real type of theyfab

similar to what someone else said with not feeling any connection to manhood or womanhood. i wear a binder and plan to go on t because i want to reach some kind of equilibrium
i dont quite know how to articulate how i feel and explain my dysphoria with myself and my body so i apologize for that
i just know that trying to force myself into a binary always has left me feeling suffocated
my ultimate goal (for lack of a better term ig) as a "theyfab" is to reach a state where every factor of my being is androgynous. even if its physically impossible. because its the only life that will leave me fufilled as corny as that sounds

>>44209036
>theyfabs
>not feeling any connection to manhood or womanhood
Cool in theory, cisgender in practice

>>44207551
You're a niggerfaggot

>>44209077
which is why i plan on blowing my brains out instead

>>44209303
why the edgy reply...?

>>44209080
cismoid i love you >~<

Lean toward hefab but calling myself male/a trans man instead of nb would be an embarrassment to trutrans pooners

I'm on T and plan to get top surgery, don't have piercings/dyed hair/not emo, but consider myself too fembrained

I don't think I could, nor want to, live up to the social behaviors expected of males beyond being a provider

Iwnbam, and don't really want to be

>>44209318
sorry i did not realize it came off that way IM SORRY FOR BEING CORNY

>>44209077
ive also been thinking about this i dont understand what you exactly mean by “cisgender in practice”. am i just retarded

>>44207551
>constantly bring up agab and pronouns
>mentioning my agab and pronouns is a slur
What did they mean by this

>>44209534
there is only pain, brother.

>>44210118
nta but people have begun to use theyfab to refer to anyone born female regardless of if they weaponize or even acknowledge their agab at all

>>44207546
It's more that I identify with both womanhood and manhood to some degree. I want to be male enough that I experience some amount of (fake?) dysphoria and take testosterone, but I don't really care about performing masculinity or fitting in with men enough to consider myself a trans man or transmasculine, especially since I actively enjoy femininity.

I don't think i'm a man but i don't want to be female i don't want to be female i don't. i have body dysphoria and want to die. im getting a hysterectomy as soon as possible and probably will remove my breasts as well. other women don't like me. when i interact with them even the weirder ones i don't think i am whatever they are i don't think i relate to anyone ever at all.

>>44207551
i wish theyfab was a slur. its an insult for transmisogynists who use they/them pronouns and are such biological essentialists that they weaponize being assigned female at birth against trannies.

>>44211625
millions of men actively enjoy femininity. are you retarded?

>>44211740
Binary trans men don't seem to enjoy it one bit, or at least not to the extent I do.

>>44210220
oh kind of like how people use "amab/man" to talk about trans women at all times now thanks to theyfabs forcing it on everyone and saying it's transphobic to not misgender us

>>44207546
i am a man, i have dysphoria, i want to be a man. i'm just 5'0 and a lateshit so i'm enbycoping instead

idk if I count as a theyfab if I'm on t, saving up for top surgery and I don't present fem, but idk it just doesn't feel right to consider myself a man. I don't feel it. same thing with thinking of myself as a woman. both of these are just incorrect. I'd probably be equally dysphoric if I was born with a dick. I'm actively working towards not being a woman because I have dysphoria, but in the perfect world it wouldn't mean becoming a man

>>44214505
theyfab isn't just anyone who's nonbinary and afab, it's an insulting term for cis women who reinvent being a terf from first principles with woke-flavored terminology and respond to anyone pointing this out by accusing them of being transphobic. you can distinguish them very easily from nonbinary people because they will identify as 'afab nb'. afab usually comes first, and is never excluded, because they identify strongly with their birth sex and strongly prefer to be perceived as their birth sex. in other words, they are cis. typical theyfab behavior includes talking about 'spaces' (that you aren't allowed in) and 'voices' (that you are silencing by speaking, so you should just be silent), and telling trans people that they're problematic for wanting to actually medically or socially transition. here's some theyfab vocab and what they mean by it
>afab
woman
>female-bodied
wombyn
>male socialization
xy chromosomes
>gender nonconformity
gender essentialism
>gender essentialism
gender nonconformity

>>44207546
*imagines self as girl*
ouch
*imagines self as dude*
ouch

that's it really

>>44207558
Are you seriously apologising for using a slur on 4chan? Besides, it isn't even a slur. It's just an insult. Slurs are more serious.

>>44214673
>reinvent being a terf from first principles with woke-flavored terminology
holy fuck people who think still use this channel

>>44214678
continuing from this: i've had two "this person is male-socialised" internal resentment moments and both were caused by the same person, so you might call me a theyfab in the insulting way but i don't think i fit

one was when i realised she was leaving most of the chores to me and the other person in our friend group (also enby but amab)

the other was when we were dating, she wanted me to do ivf to have kids with her because her sperm was frozen too late, and then casually mentioned marrying her other partner for a visa

my mom says she was traumatised for life by her ivf experience and honestly thinks it gave her cancer, and besides that i wasn't gonna undergo a pregnancy with someone i couldn't divorce if things got bad, but that didn't seem to occur to her at all, and i was like "god... i wish i had a cock like you do so i can just plant a baby in someone and be done with it..."

>>44214673
that's what it meant initially, isn't it? I've been called a theyfab for aiming for a more androgynous appearance rather than wanting to look like a middle aged uncle, or girlmoding at work for safety reasons enough times that I don't think it's the general consensus anymore. I do agree most of these talking points are stupid tho

>>44214702
>a trans woman being lazy means she is an evil manly masculine rapist moid

i'd go all in and take T but im 5'3 so if i don't want to be a manlet and have women to avoid a 20 meter radius around me I'll just have to be a dyke instead. Its not so bad really

>>44214702
> i wish i had a cock like you do so i can just plant a baby in someone and be done with it...
> meanwhile, trans women:
> I really wish I could get pregnant and carry my own child :(

Assigned females do not want to abandon womanhood and the social safety net of being seen as cute and a victim of other nasty beings... the males.

Their aspirations do not include being perceived as a man / mistaken for one.
The goal is to regress into childhood and avoid adult gender roles.
You will find this not just among the female 96% of "nonbinary" people but also the transmen, transmasc, and other flavors of female that are really just women trying to avoid womanhood.

>>44207618
i want to be like you

>>44215267
there's a reason "let's swap" is such a common sentiment lol

>>44215062
:P i talked about the feeling with aforementioned theymab by opening the conversation with "hey, i had some transphobic thoughts" and no word of it reached her ears, i think i'm doing my best

>>44209077
cisfag (such as myself) would be feeling no 'phoria
otoh >>44209036 >>44209303 seems to be pretty phoric, unless I'm misreading the afaby wording
>>44211625
why do you want to experience dysphoria, vs just living as a regular-ass woman?

>>44207551
How can "theyfab" be a slur? It is legitimately descriptive. AFAB just tells you that someone was born appearing female. "Theyfab" tells you a person was born female and currently is non-binary. If you take it as a slur, it's because your feelings are overtuned. Or you met a few assholes. Regardless, theyfab is useful and I will continue to use it.

>>44209921
It means they do nothing to transition. No HRT and no surgery. Probably still dress in women's clothes that are not fitted. They just change their pronouns and their style of dress, but they could dress as tradwives or clean girls tomorrow and not be out of place if they wanted.

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>>44216552
Girls are just retarded sometimes. Had an argument with my sister and her rad fem GF about whether or not the word "cis" is a slur or not.

>>44216874
femchud...

>>44207546
Well I needed a way to get attention and feel special but actually watching my diet, taking care of my hair, working out, and doing makeup and learning fashion was too hard.

Thanks to trans* I can now be celebrated for how special and unique I am without having to adhere to the male gaze.

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>>44207546
im amab but people already described me here as a mttheyfab. idk if this will help

I'm 18 years old, thought I was a tranny since 11 years old, anamaxxed my whole puberty, then started hrt at 16. Since some months ago people are gendering me female while I dress like a typical male metalhead, and I kinda like it.
I like being seen as both a man-lite and a woman-lite, being 6ft tall, my androgynous voice, my fem proportions and don't want to have visible breasts.
My interests and behavior are either fembrained or enbybrained, I like being seen as apathetic and rational, I like my oversized band tees and if I need to use formal clothes I'd prefer masculine ones

I don't exactly have transition goals, but I like the vibe varg had before being jailed