I was your average every day mongolian transsexual.I was part of many fandoms including amazing circus, MLP, OMORI and Murdoch Murdoch.When I was 9 my woke mother told me that I looked like a feminine beta and I had to transition....She said I was acting a bit too fruity and I must be transgender...The next week we went into the doctors office and I got prescribed hormone blockers after a thirty minute consultation.I grew up in an accepting environment at school even if you know... it felt a little weird...For some reason my penis was really big in high school and the chasers knew this...They objectified me as a sex object... The chasers were mostly women who wanted to ride me as a dildo because I was infertile.They....they raped me....That was kind of a lot to deal with...Uh....But then I found the teachings of the buddha and saw through the delusions of this triple world.When I finally got on my own I went out into the world in peace.I lived off the land and wrote books, i went to study at monasteries and enjoyed nature...After a few years I finally put down the HRT and i'm content.I've given up my ego and self to be at peace in a state of nirvana~May you be whole and escape suffering<3
>>44212758I'm not reading that but whoever drew this image should be hung to death in public square
>>44212797I had the exact same thought
>>44212758Is this image a detrans fetish thing? That's too many layers man, you gotta keep things simple or you're gonna end up in a gooning K hole.
>>44212797Detransitioners are people too.Jax was just going through a phase.They didn't know how to handle being a guy with some feminine traits.Transgender people are ok too and we should support and love them.However, people who return to their original genders should be respected.#ExTroonsMatter#WhiteLivesMatter#Vance2028
>>44212818Maybe you should read my life story before judging or hating.Us MAGA extroons be incredibly attractive and endowed with much love and girth in our character.
>>44212846My life is not a fetish.I don't even know what a k hole is.
>>44212758>When I was 9 my woke mother told me that I looked like a feminine beta and I had to transitioneither larp or a very rare and unfortunate case of having transition forced on you. this really does not represent the average tranny
>portraying jax as a happy detransitionerLMAOOOOOOO
>>44214262I never made the claim the majority of transgender people have this experience.I support transgender people getting the care they need but they're also needs to be respect for people who decide to detransition.I think it's a pretty reasonable demand of mutual respect.
>try being a woman >don't like it >come back and be a man except more authentic this time such a wholesome and cute story :)and you get some cute little titties also which is a big plus I kinda wish I had titties
>>44214271Yes believe it or not people can grow and find new happiness.Everyone knows they tacked on that tranny thingbafter the fact to score brownie points with the woke.They were never trans, this is a retcon.
>>44214304I mean there are some difficulties but I like this romanticized view.People going threw it need to know life can be good and better.That the past isn't evil and that the future is good<3
>>44212758I think you should try the thing with putting batteries up your ass. Or maybe just licking the nodes on an 8v to start. But definitely put some batteries up your ass.
>>44214305the creator literally designed the entire plot from the beginning around how much of a troon jax was. you didn't even watch the show did you
>>44214385stop interacting with bait / troll. or at least sage.
>>44214292i guess but you can understand how we can be bitter about detrooners when so many of them let themselves be turned into weapons against us (understandably i guess but still) and yet more detransitioners are still obviously dysphoric and only detrooned cause of self hatred or kowtowing to their cis overlords
>>44214392true sorry>>44214393this is obviously not sincere lmao
>>44214385I did watch the show and it was never explicit.You can look back retroactively and see hints but it was never explicit.The entire show was vague posting , and maybe that's even generous.Getting upset that you're in a maid outfit can be a funny joke even if you're not a troon.You have to be more honest in your analysis.They could have made the messaging actually explicit
>>44214393I can acknowledge your community still has struggles.Transgenderism in the modern conception is still fairly new.You could make the argument that ancient spiritual conceptions were superior and i'm sure we'll see new ones develop but we have to deal with the practical situation as it stands today.There is no wrong reason to detroon even if it causes difficulties.People have the dignity and free will to make these decisions for themselves.We are going through a dialectic right now and it will be resolved alongside the march of technology.It's about having strength and forbearance and love for our fellow humans even when we disagree.Anger and bitterness never gets us anywhere.
>>44214402I am being sincere.
>>44214421>I need everything spelled out for me or it isn't real lalalalalalalalalalathat's exactly what I like about the maid outfit thing though. to a certain audience (the kind jax's character is meant to speak to) the maid thing isn't a 'funny joke' because they can tell how being in a maid outfit would cause dysphoria and humiliation>>44214438>dialecticwow you probly actually are mongolian
stop responding. detroons aren't welcome here
>>44212758all that writing for the least convincing LARP ever
>>44214474Listen you have to understand there are multiple ways you can interpret something when the symbolism is not explicit.Plenty of guys have aspects of femininity that they are uncomfortable exploring while still being men Plenty of cis man feel humiliated when forced to cross dress because they care about their masculinity.Lots of feminine guys want to be more masculine and struggle to achieve it.We wanna be strong in a society that constantly emasculates us.Jax also spoke to nihilistic chuds who felt cast out by the feminist supremacy we currently live in.His whole speech about simplifying people down to their archetypes and not caring because you cannot escape a horrible fate is very relatable to groups other than transgenders.Surely if you're good faith you could understand how it might catch someone off guard especially when the most explicit confirmation was given to us outside of the show itself.Ah yes hegel was definitely a mongolian....
>>44214805>a character's experiences can be relatable to someone who doesn't have the specific issue they haveyes>therefore jax isn't a trannyno>hegelwhat
>>44214838I'm saying that there's no explicit evidence within the show itself to point to transgenderism.Zoble has more overt transgender allegory layered on top of her character then Jax dose.It's not that I can't read symbolism it's that the symbolism on Jax can be interpreted many different ways. Pomi literally calls the man as she's holding him in her arms when she tries to connect with him as an abstraction.The whole conflict of their guilt was about them pushing down their mother and running away.Even a few more tweaks and lines could have made the trans case much more legible.We can acknowledge the creator's intent and authority over their work but i'm speaking solely within the confines of the work speaking for itself.I'm sorry I thought you were mocking the dialectic comment.You know george hagel the famous philosopher who put out social theory on the dialectic a society goes through as it progresses.Thesis, antithesis and synthesis.The constant pendulum swinging of opposite contradictions slamming into each other until an emergent harmony is found and we continue the spiral upward.
>>44214870idk who hegel is I just know dialectic is a commie wordanyway>girly pink white and blue bedroom>maid outfit upset her more than anything ever had before as commented on by other characters>"chicken fetus in an egg that needs to be cracked open">"aren't you supposed to be upset about your ability to choose your own body or something">thought telling mom her secret would make her stop going on about the 'man of the house' stuff>bow on head is (visual shorthand for female character in every little kid's show ever made)>ISN'T SHE LOOOOOOVELYYYYYYin the finale all subtlety is truly dead but the episodes leading up to it were packed full of obvious tranny dogwhistles. to claim it was a retcon when the creator herself is a troon and said as early as episode one she relates to jax the most is just disingenuous at this point
>>44214916I'm not denying those symbols are there.I'm saying many of them can be interpreted in a variety of different ways and there was no smoking gun.Rewatch the show and look for everything that they say and do that could contradict these symbols that you're cherry picking.There's tons of times where Jax be embracing masculinity in a positive and fun way~There's tons of bro energy and it's enjoyable.I'm just saying if I wrote it, it would still be subtle but more legible.No peace of art is perfect except for my wonderful novel which I wrote.
coopting this thread to talk about how its 4am on my birthday and i haven't been able to sleep yet cause of terrible vertigo. I've wanted to throw up every time i try to fix it and i dry heaved already once. im fucking miserable oh my fucking god
ok i threw up now
>>44214936>times where Jax be embracing masculinitylike what. whenever she talks about her masculinity it's sarcastic>>44214940are you staying hydrated?
>>44214940happy birthday anon, I hope your detroonsition works out.
>>44214955im hydrated yes. very
>>44214961good good... what made you sick anyway
>>44214965i dont know. i had pesto for dinner but i dont think food poisoning causes vertigo.
>>44214972once when I was a kid a cheesy pasta and leafy salad I loved at the time and it made me projectile vomit all over my room. I no longer love the salad
>>44214955i think he's taking about the thrill seeking and general demeanor
>murdoch Murdoch mentionedThat was such a good show, where tf can I find a guy into that and trannies? Is such a thing even existent?
my mom yelled at me and blamed me being sick on hrt lol
>>44215001>*stubs toe*>"you should go off those hormones dear they're clearly not good for you"
>>44214987that's just repper behavior though. kinda hilarious she repped so well even a good chunk of the audience privy to more of her life than the other characters ever were thinks she's a normal cis man
>>44215014thats literally my life living with her
>>44212758This is Evil Jax’s origin arc.
>>44215033looks exactly like him lol
>>44212758STOP DRAWING TROONJAX WITH THE STUPID HAIR OFSIHFHAFRAJFBJ
>>44212758does anyone have any advice for masculinizing my appearance?after a year of living as a woman i realized its not for me. it even started making me dysphoric. every time i looked in the mirror, i thought "this isn't me. this isn't real"i'm now trying to present masculine by wearing compression tops and baggy boy clothes. i now say my pronouns are he/they whenever people ask. despite that, almost everyone still calls me by she/heri also get weird looks every time i use the men's room. i want to get more masc so i can start going to gay male play parties in my city without embarrassing myself.also, is Marcel a fitting name for me? i'm trying to decide a new name for myself since my birth name has too much trauma attached to it
>>44214955They're love of guns, a lot of the sexist humor, the love of cars and fumbling a hot chick.There's so much more , but you have to be looking for it.Just re-watch will an open mind
>>44215153if that's you: ditch the piercings, wear darker colours, and generally take less care of your appearance. and hide your tits obv
>>44214992Hello lady, what's up;)Wanna be my fren~Discord?
>>44215165lol you're literally doing the exact thing your mom did, prescribing someone's gender based on superficial aesthetics.>sexist humorwhat where
>>44215033Nah this is regular Jax;)
>>44215046The hair is the best way to differentiate the Troon AU Jax tho~
how is this stupid chud thread still going
>>44215185I wouldn't force my daughter to transition into a boy if she liked those things.Observing general trends is okay as long as you are not forcing anything on anyone.All people have masculine and feminine traits, certain ones are much more common among males or females.I'm just saying like, try to step outside your bubble for a minute and see how others might perceive the character.I definitely see and acknowledge both yours and the creators interpretation.
>>44215201This is a thread welcome to all peoples regardless of their gender or sexuality.The fact that i'm a chud and voted for Donald J Trump factors absolutely none here.
>>44215213I can see outside the 'bubble' just fine. they're just all fuckin wrong. jax is a symbol of what happens when you bury yourself and hurt everyone around you because of it. you suffer and die without ever even getting the chance to exist. are you really suggesting that, in terms of art, is equally as meaningful as>teehee HE's a chill valid boierino cool guy :D
>>44215235he's not even trying to hide that he's ragebaiting just let it go
>>44212797>>44212818It's Jax if he was actual true to himself. (His real life self is a man)
>>44215173here's me in a darker fit. does this look more masc?
>>44215178I’d love to, I don’t really want to post discord publicly so can you email me and I’ll email it to you? Email is in the name field.
>>44215324I’m an idiot and put the email in wrong it’s this sorry.
>>44215178Conservative boi I can't believe you're finding another foid ;_;
>>44215235Okay I get it you're a bigot and close minded.We can't go any further it seems.Just know I see where you're coming from.Wished it could be mutually returned.In another life, I would watch this show with you and give you the Chud interpretation in real-time and you would see the light~Perhaps the tranny and the chud aren't so far apart.Across the infinite space two fingers graze against one another and a love of pure light is found~
>>44215340I'm a lone wolf.Nobody loves me.Maybe I should just die.
>>44215307>still wearing makeup>still accessorising>still women's clothesyour face is also quite foided so you'll probably need to cut your hair short to account for that
>>44215153weren't you that one twitter weirdo who said you'd scream bloody murder if a non-passing trans guy used the women's restroom because he felt unsafe in the men's?
>>44216153Do you still think i'm great Snoy:(
>>44212758I hope your journey for inner peace is fruitful, anon <3
>>44216316Are you detrans or what is your situation?
>>44216316boi are you false flagging again
>>44216354I just want snoymoder to still love me and not hate me:(
>>44216402I have never false flagged...why are you sovcruel snoy:(
>>44216134>still accessorisingi'm wearing a barbed wire necklace, a sword pendant, and jean chains. these are all masculinei'm not gonna become trade and dress like a boring straight moid. i still want to express myself>cut your hair short i literally did>>44216153yes. i got so many he/himmlers calling me a theyfab terf. it was pretty funny
>>44216598it's kapo behavior tbhonworld's first MtFtTerfboi
>>44216598>these are all masculinethey're edgy, which isn't the same thing. you can get away with them if you're moided but if you're androgynous they read as woman>i literally didmore
>>44216745>i'm not gonna become trade and dress like a boring straight moid. i still want to express myselfoh I somehow missed this part. yeah throw out everything I said. you're probably just fucked