is it too late to try to be a woman at 25?I don't mean hrt, I mean transitioning at all. 25 isn't "old" but it isn't "young" young. just, what's the point? even if I pass perfectly, the hell am I gonna do now?
>>44220332As soon as you start HRT you're going to regret not starting earlier.
>>44220332Love yourself, now.
>>44220332Stop posting this fucking rabbit I am trying to rep and this isn't helping.
>>44220352that just makes me feel worse for all the time i cant get back
>>44220398Everyone wishes they started earlier. You just gotta accept it'll hurt and take the leap. Fear of pain should not stop you from living the life you want <3
>>44220413why does life have to be pain
>>44220398The best time to start is conception. You missed that one.The second best time to start is right fucking now.
>>44220457Life is better without testosterone.
>>44220332i will watch this thread because i have the same questions and i'm turning 25 in a little under a month and a half
>>44220332I turn 25 in a few months, I'm so glad I started hrt when I was 18>just, what's the point? If you have gender dysphoria and want to transition, do it now (or asap). What country are you in?
if you wanna be anything like these retards in this board go for iti mean you already knew before posting what people here would say so what's the point
>>44220565what are you doing here if you know so much better
>>44220332it's not age that matters so much as your genetic foundation (skull shape, skeleton shape). >>44220352is correct, I repped for 3 years and hate myself for that, you are probbaly gonna regret if you wait any amount of time from your post
>>44220606not op but i'm 6'1 linebacker caveman, kms?
>>44220611I wouldn't kms if I were you, I'm not exactly passoid material, but I persist and hrtrep. I think that's really all you can do.
>>44220611>linebacker cavemanAs long as you stop exercising and weight cycle properly linebacker to hourglass is perfectly doable. If you actually try to find your ribcage under your chest muscles you'll see they're buried deep, same with your shoulder joints, it's all under thick muscle which is broadening your shoulders well past what your skeleton is providing. GLP-1 drugs are an amazing tool for this as about 30% of the weight loss comes from muscle, so you don't just get thinner, you get squishier. It's shoulders and upper back that take the longest to reduce. Weight cycling in the optimal range (30<BMI<35) doesn't really deal with it, you've got to cycle all the way down to like 18 before that really starts coming off, which you don't want to do because that will kill breast growth. So it's really about having a long term plan. Midsection and butt first, then chest, then shoulders and back, and it's about targetting the right BMI. The biggest mistake I see are people go too thin too quickly, creating a finished result that looks okay but never good. Hold off on prog for as long as possible. And save for surgery. Another tip is don't confuse your neckbeard for your jawline. For me it took 18 months of HRT and weight cycling for me to start really figuring out where my skeleton was and how much smaller than my "frame" it really was. Also don't let them hondose you, more estrogen = more result.
25 is so young, you'll be fine.
>>44220611>>44220667Also learn to cheese your growth hormone. GH is the number one advantage youngshits have, their bodies are full of it so the hormones do a lot. Once you get through your growth spurts hormones do a lot less, but getting your estrogen to peak at the same time your GH peaks enhances the effects. Their are foods that are high GH, mostly dairy. But the three things that cause a GH spike are:Rest after exercise.Eating when you're actually hungry. Sleep.
>>44220689>GH is the number one advantage youngshits haveso not OP and I?
>>44220712I transitioned at 41 from strongman physique to hourglass with D-cups. You just have to manage your routines to get the most out of what you're taking. And don't let them hondose you. You can achieve good results, but you've got to effortmaxx. Don't expect the HRT to do all the work, HRT enables you to get the body you want with patience and discipline.
>the hell am I gonna do now?well youll be happier
>>44221554every trans person i know is still perpetually suicidal
>>44220332I started at 30 and now pass. Don't wait like I did, you're better off trying HRT for years and perma manmoding then doing nothing. Worst case scenario it will make you look younger and you'll grow boobs thats you have to bind, but even that takes years and there is no guarantee you will get them
>>44221819Ask them if they'd ever go back.
>>44221851isnt it rude to ask a trans person about trans stuff?
>>44220332No. It's not too late. It's never too late.Even if you don't pass, you'll still feel better.It's unlikely you won't pass with some effort. Being clocky is better than being miserable.>>44220352This.
>>44221822how long would you say it took to pass?
>>44221822Yeah, like no way am I waiting til way later to start. Been sneaking hrt into my system for a while now. Now I'm finally getting my desired body shape. It's not perfect, but I've got small boobs now, so it's helping a lot.
>>44220526croatia>>44222065what kind of extra effort do I need to do
>>44220332in 5 years would you rather be possibly passing or dead
>>44223124maybe the world would be better off without me
>>44223144you can still kill yourself if being a woman doesn't work so why not try first
>>44223276i love trans people too much to inflict myself on them as a hon and then 41%i should do it now before i let myself get close to anyone again, just one more person i'll hurt when i finally do it
>>44220391she makes you want to transition?
you sort of write like my former friend who was also a suicidal croatian repper and probably 25 present day. former because despite being an extremely smart person with interesting hobbies they always took their intense shame and self-loathing out on anybody who was happier than them, especially trans people, and it rotted them from the inside out. the type of person who says agp and troon all the time but secretly buys lolita outfits and reads more trans health research than an endocrinologist, that kind of inner conflict isn't sustainable i haven't watched tadc at all but catching some of "the discourse" around jax my understanding is their arc is about how repping makes you the worst version of yourself and that negatively affects the people around you too. if you're reading this euca i hope you're doing better
As a gay bottom it is NEVER too late to start HRT, all gay bottoms should be put on HRT
I trooned at 25
>>44223561that sounds similar to me indeed minus the lolita part
