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agp is soul crippling if you cant feed it in time
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>>44227638
take your HRT, retard
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>>44227638
Kid, AGP isn't a thing. You are coming to age at a time where anti-trans hysteria is at its height. Fascists are using our community as scapegoat to deflect from the fact that the oligarchs who run this our world are fucking us raw.

You are trans. Take it from someone who didn't begin their transition until their early 30s. You will look back on your time spent repressing with regret.
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A hundred names to describe one painful type of suffering.

It will not get better, you will feel brief moments of dissociation that will alleviate the symptoms, but the pain will always be there under the surface slowly coagulating into the monster you will become if you don't make the correct choice now.
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>>44227654
>>44227659
but it is statistically impossible for a person to be trans
trans people are rare, what are the odds that i am trutrans
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>>44227683
why is it that i yearn to be a version of me that doesnt exist? it felt impossible to fall in love with a person you have never met before but the agp pair bond somehow paired me with a tranny version of me
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>>44227705
about 1 in 100
that's a pretty big population, why shouldnt it include you?
be the girl in your heart and take your pills alice
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>>44227836
most of those are fake trans tho
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>>44227705
>trutrans
what is this?

>>44227931
how do you know? what's the difference?
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>>44227931
No, they're really not. Again, you are coming to age at a time where anti-trans hysteria is at its height.

AGP and all of the other shit that goes with it are not accepted in the medical community. It's terminally online garbage. Start HRT and you'll know whether you are trans or not. It's easy to stop and has basically no permanent effects for the first few months.
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>>44227659
honestly so tired of this whole "agp isnt real" and "cis women are agp too!!!" nonsense. it is, i am living proof of that. it genuinely started as just a fetish when i was 12-13 and over the years has slowly grown into dysphoria that is now at its peak and leaves me lost in what to do with my life. i can barely look at myself in the mirror without getting mad or depressed when all i see is a disgusting male who is only going to masculinize further if i don't start hrt soon. since i was 13 i have researched diyhrt and how to get it but never went through with it out of fear. now is the closest i've been to getting on hrt but i still cant go through with it when i think about how this all started as some perverted fetish i got into as a teenager. i am like fake male socialized with how much i put on a fake personality to "fit it" with other guys my age and have never really had much of a chance until recently. i am most definitely "queer" (god i fucking hate that word) in whatever ways that could be (gender, sexuality) but when it comes to transitioning i am so scared because i know i dont want to masculinize further, but i dont want to be some faketrans sissy who trooned out for the fetish. i dont want to call myself a trans woman if i am just a male who hates himself and had let his overconsumption of porn at a young age manifest into dysphoria. and i dont even know if thats possible but with how little research has been done on transsexuality i cant even say for sure if thats the case or not. it feels wrong to group myself with actual trans people when i am agp.

so yeah agp is real as fuck and has in turn made me confused and suicidal
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>>44228461
lol
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>>44227705
That's not how statistics work... that number only matters if you pull a person randomly out of a population, not when you have a specific person in front of you, at that point you need to actually diagnose it.
If you have doubt as to whether you're trans, go see a clinical sexologist, nona. Ideally a younger one. Good luck <3
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>>44228461
nona you are overthinking the origin point of your dysphoria. you know one thing for certain, you do not want to masculinize further. the other questions of which you are not certain are vague and wishy-washy: you're worried it's a fetish, you're worried you'll be 'fake trans', you're worried you hate yourself too much. stick with the concrete reality that you do not want to become any more of a man than you already are and take your fucking pills already, deal with the rest after you realize how much better you feel on HRT. I'm so serious no more navel gazing about this, act now
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>>44228536
I'm glad you’re saying this, I was in an extremely similar spot a few months ago and I had to figure that out on my own way slower than I could’ve if I’d heard something like this
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>>44228461
You're latching to a normal part of human sexuality that has been co-opted to erase and belittle trans people and acting as if it explains your whole experience. You are a trans woman. Stop internalizing cis hate.

You kids are harming us all with this brain dead shit.
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>>44228536
you're probably right. recently i have been trying to find the best way to hide hrt (probably gonna get a lock box but my crazy mother will definitely try to get into it thinking im hiding drugs again) and find somewhere to ship it to so that i dont get disowned, so thats the furthest step ive taken i guess, just need to actually order it. besides stopping further masculinization, i really hope that its true that estrogen reduces your libido so that i no longer have to deal with these disgusting feelings anymore and can transition without feeling like a sex pest freak. after so many years of questioning it really feels like im so close to finding myself i just need to stop being so scared and rethinking everything
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>>44228788
im sorry if i came off as "trans women transition because they're agp perverts" i dont believe that at all and am disgusted with how much that shit is regurgitated to oppress trans people. its people who say that shit that have made me feel this way because while i dont believe that to be true whatsoever, it made me feel like me being agp and transitioning would only lead to more of that type of hate towards trans women because all they have to do is point to me as an example to fuel their bullshit claims. hence why it has felt wrong/disrepspectful to even call myself trans. as much as i know it would make life harder, i would be much happier if i could just accept that im trans without having any doubts in my head.
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>>44227638
you cant. you either troon out and realize your goal was impossible to begin with or you rope. i'll probably take the second option someday. it's a shame i'm a fucking coward and can't do it sooner.
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>>44227638
>>44227659
both of you could unite under a common motto: "two more weeks!"
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>>44228461
>words
nona please touch grass
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>>44228461
can you expand on that (the fetish) ? I only ask cuz I also started jerking off to trannies at 12-13 and have AGP so i'm wondering if our experiences were/are similar
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>>44228057
what if I took hrt, realized I’m not trans, but still take it bc I’m AGP
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>>44230153
I know one poster who said they did that but their AGP disappeared after some months and they greatly regretted doing it, especially the having tits part
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>>44230153
then you are still a fucking tranny
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im gay agp and aap
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>>44230164
my agp has definitely lessened but not enough to make it easy to quit
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>>44230183
if u met me irl you would say im a cishet man
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>>44230253
stay on HRT and that will change
also I clock trannies pretty good nowadays
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>>44230253
identify as cishet: you are gay
identify as gay: you are agp
identify as agp: you are trans
identify as trans: you are cishet
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>>44230265
ive literally never malefailed, I have an extremely masculine face and demeanor
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>>44227638
>agp is soul crippling if you cant feed it in time
As a cis man with agp, you just gotta let it run its course. Post nut clearity is humiliating, but if you're trans, then it shouldn't be unless you believe the paraphilia is what makes you trans. For me, it's hypothetically worse. For you, it's a problem if you're misandrist or think it makes you less of a woman to get turned on by feeling like a woman(irrational, but I guess if you're ALWAYS horny it's a possible concern.)
>>44230273
>identify as cishet: you are gay
>identify as gay: you are agp
>identify as agp: you are trans
>identify as trans: you are cishet
Lmao. You make a good point. I've not seen it laid out quite like that.
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>>44230135
basically the worst kind. started with femboys when i was 12 with the whole "lol no way your telling me that GIRL is actually a MAN with a DICK, thats crazyyyy" thing, and then later on the weird sissy shit and the "omg wearing womens clothes give me such a heckin euphoria boner!!!" stuff at around 13 until 17. dont really care for that stuff much for the sexual aspect of it now because i look back on it and think of the fat agp 60 year old men who post themselves wearing lingerie when their wives aren't home and think, wow that stuff was weird and retarded i really dont wanna be like that. plus the whole thing is incredibly misogynistic and makes a mockery of trans women so i dont wanna engage with that, although every once in a while i still get the urge to look at that stuff but not as strong. not even on some "how i quit the sissy porn" type of shit i kinda just grew out of it and can just get off to some other less weird shit but like with some other regular old non-sissy feminization stuff every once in a while. it was when i started to see all the weird blacked bnwo shit that i was like "yeah thats horrifying im not gonna become like that i think im done with this" which was around the time the masculinization of my body was hitting its peak for my age and thinking about being a girl made me more depressed than horny.
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>>44230637
wow literally meee
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>>44230691
did you end up trooning out and if so how has it gone so far? do you still get agp thoughts or have they settled down at all?
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>>44230808
well I took hrt but I haven’t trooned. I don’t think I could ever call myself a woman or even enby when I know I’m only doing it for a fetish. the agp is definitely less severe but still there



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