I wish that persons who were born with a penis and/or testicles could take estrogen without- being asked what our “pronouns“ are- being asked “how” we “identify”- being asked “why” we “can’t just be feminine men”- being accused of “infiltrating women’s spaces”- being ordered to “stay out of women’s spaces”- being told that we have “male socialization”- being told that “cis is a slur”- being told that “there’s no such thing as trans [sic]”- being told that “there’s no such thing as gender identity”- being told that we believe in “Cartesian dualism”- being told that we’re “delusional”- being told that we need “therapy”- being told that we’re “men in dresses”- being told that we’ll “never be a woman”- being told that we’re ignorant or in denial of “biology”- being told that “there are only two genders” or ”sexes”- being told that human beings “can’t change gender” or “sex”- being told that “sex is real” and that “gender is not”- being told that “sex matters”- being told that “gender harms women”- being told that we’re “promoting gender roles”- being told that we’re “living out gender stereotypes”- being told that we are “a caricature of a woman”- being told that a woman is “an adult human female”- being told some irrelevant drivel about “gametes”- being told that we have a “fetish”- being told that our clothing is “fetish gear”- being told that we transitioned exclusively because we are “addicted to pornography” (or for other sexual reasons)- being otherwise sexually harassed- being told that we’re “homophobic”- being told that we’d be happier “accepting being gay”- being ordered to “accept ourselves”tl;dr: I wish that persons who were born with a penis and/or testicles could take estrogen without being questioned, challenged, or harassed
>>44230387same, bestie
>>44230387>being told that we believe in “Cartesian dualism”that one, new2mebased on the rest, i'm convinced it's pure trite
>>44230387what if I believe all of these things but still wish I could take estrogen
I wish that they would just state explicitly “I demand that you stop taking estrogen at once” instead of regurgitating all of this retarded, obfuscatory Scheiße.>>44230706All of these are things that people have said to me irl or that I’ve seen TERFs post on twitter.>>44230725What’s stopping you?
>>44230387most of us can as we dont pass for shit,if we just dont say we take estrogen nobody will know (and why are you telling strangers medicine you take?)
>>44230785I don’t tell strangers what medicine I take.I wish that human beings were physiologically incapable of asking loaded questions.
>>44230387>: I wish that persons who were born with a penis and/or testicles could take estrogen without being questioned, challenged, or harassedSo are you admitting it's misandry, or is it mysogyny again somehow through mental gymnastics?
>>44230853Whom are you addressing? https://youtu.be/oO_jtlib_x4
>>44230706>>44230784It's funny because TERFs and trannies adopt materialistic beliefs, just in different ways.>TERFs believe that your mind and body are one thing>trannies believe that there is a mishap between mind and body and seek to correct itThe only truth is that our bodies are receivers of the infinite field of consciousness, and our bodies, sex, gender, are all fake and gay essentially. All is mind, and being a TERF or transgender is an illusion anyway. Enjoy yourself though.
>>44230968I am transsexual and I believe that- Mind is a property of a living body- “Mismatch between mind and body” is a naïve way of expressing “frustration at unfulfilled desires concerning one’s morphology” (desires which are themselves caused by nervous system activity and therefore are subordinate to the same blind laws as all other phenomena)Don’t paint us all with the same brush.
>>44230968Furthermore>TERFs believe that your mind and body are one thingFalse. In actuality, TERFs are filthy substance dualists LARPing as materialists. This explains how it is that they can believe that “therapy” (read: *conversion* therapy) can eliminate from a mind the desire to change its body’s sex. They completely ignore that this desire is caused by deeply-ingrained neurobiological traits and therefore can’t be changed by conversion practices
>>44231120But also: This is entirely beside the point, actually, because TERFs don’t actually care about facts; their agenda is simply to eliminate transsexuals from public life at any cost. This is a conversation about *values*
>>44230387Also- being asked “how” it is that we can “feel like a woman”- being told that “woman is not a feeling”- being asked “What is a woman?”I don’t care. Just let me be a tranny in peace
>>44230387male
>>44232643Did I ask?
>>44232663male
>>44232672Twat.
Shouldn't you just wish for being born an actual women instead? Idk man sounds weird to me but you do you.
>>44232680Wishing that wouldn’t change anything about my life.
>>44232684Neither does taking estrogen make you a women if we're being real here.
>>44232693I don’t care. Just let me be a tranny in peace
>>44232706You necessarily needs outside validation to feel like a women which basically guarantees you'll hear the things you listed until the end of time.
>>44232726I don’t know whether it is the case that I “[need] outside validation to feel like a woman” because I don’t know what the expression “feel like a woman” signifies. Also, I don’t care. Just let me be a tranny in peace
>>44232733>Just let me be a tranny in peaceWhat would that even look like? Say you're at a dinner table with the family...how do you expect to be treated?
>>44232769Just don’t question, challenge, or harass me. It’s that simple. I don’t know why you think that the usual norms of social etiquette don’t apply to transsexuals and, frankly, I don’t care.
>>44232780>Just don’t question, challenge, or harass me.Would it be ok for someone to treat you like a guy with everything except they use your new pronouns/name and nothing else?
>>44232769Not the person you're replying to, but it's simple really:"how was your day today?""can you pass me the salt?""how do you like the chicken?"
>>44232795Just shut up.
>>44232799Well what else do you want?
>>44232814Nothing. Be silent. Post no more replies in this thread. That’s it. All that I require of you is that you do nothing. It’s the easiest thing ever. Shut up.
>>44230877I was addressing OP. They sound like they agree with me about misandry and contempt for bodies associated with being male existing.If you identify straight, then you're actually just a gay faggot. If you identify gay, then you're actually trans egg to be cracked. If you identify trans, then you're actually a straight man. There's no way to win. There's always an accusation of larp.
>>44230853>>44233809I have never mentioned “misandry” or “misogyny” in this thread, nor alluded to either—even in the obscurest way. Either your reading comprehension could use some work, you need to get your eyesight checked, or you are experiencing delusions.
