Trannies won. Null and chuds lost. LOL
>>44239928Good.
>>44239928finally
>>44239928What is he talking about when he mentions the "child pornographers"
>>44239973Like is he being serious or is he just making accusations at whoever he dislikes
>>442399289/11 for incels
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>>44239928I've lurked there a few times and KF is worse than this placeI hope it stays gone
>>44239973Their whole gimmick is calling everyone they gangstalk a pedo
>>44239982anybody who attacks them must be a literal child pornographer. as opposed to figurative child pornographers, who would only metaphorically attack the site and abuse children. im sure having to make the distinction is wonderful for those working in CPS.
>>44239998I figured
>>44239928Good
>>44239928I did appreciate the threads about 4chan during the hack, and the long history of Chris Chan nifo.Like, I hardly ever visited that site, but it has some old good info in there about certain people that will be lost to time.How did they ever get into this situation with no other web company wanting to touch them?
>>44240010Nightmare desu, i hope that shit site stays gone 4ever
>>44240025Gangstalking the wrong people
>>44239928Site is still up you fucking morons.
>>44240036Did the farms ever stalk people who deserved it? Or did they only go after lolcows?
>>44240025>How did they ever get into this situation with no other web company wanting to touch them?it's literally a doxxing website when every other website says no doxxing
>>44239973He's talking about >>44239949 and >>44239954 who are both child molesters
>>44240047They stalked everyone, so likely some of them deserved it by virtue of the law of large numbers.Kiwifarms always spread a wide net. Their problem was never facts. It was was always they made the most pessimistic interpretation of those facts. And the users ended up as obsessed as the people they stalked.
>>44240066sorry your website's being shut down
Josh is just looking for a get out. He's made a ton of money on donations to sue Liz and keep the site running. He's might try to get some more before he pulls the plug. He's lying about everything and it's amazing anyone falls for it.He got an extra 4 years because Musk bought twitter which meant his enemies were disorganized.
>>44239928lol hope he kills himself
>>44240066Not beating the allegations are you kiwifaggot >>44240010>>44239998
>>44240087Sorry but it's still illegal to molest children and download child porn. Shutting down websites won't change that, pedo fuck
>>44240110have you tried calling cloudflare a pedo?you never know, it could work
>>44240110I hate you retarded niggers who water down serious shit like this because you cant understand how awful that stuff is. Accusing randoms of shit because you don't like them just muddies the water
The internet will be marginally better when that shithole of a site is finally shut down.
>>44239928at least 25% of the posters on this board either had a thread or appeared in one on there i am guessingof course they are going to celebrate this, trannies dont give two shits about freedom of speech
>>44240041It's been on and off for days. Null is just e-begging again. He's probably behind the DDOS.
>>44240104>>44240154>>44240161Okay but have you tried not molesting children? Instead of just censoring everybody who tells you not to molest children
>>44240185>freedom of speechlol
>>44240185freedom of speech was not violated at all, retarded nigger. The government didn't go after them, private companies freely and willingly decided they don't want themselves associated with the Stalking and Harassment hate forum so they denied their service.If no one wants to do business with you maybe you should think about why that is instead of crying and shitting about non existent freedom of speech violations
>>44240185>freedom of speech>kiwiYou're retarded, there's a reason he can't get american hosting you animal. The entire place is a den for criminals, he still runs it because the ebegging makes a large profit, the moment it stops being so profitable he'll drop it.
>>44240185>freedom of speechTo quote the repper in chief, Elon Musk: Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of reach.He can speak, nobody is stopping him. But nobody is obligated to give him services like hosting.
>>44240221Nta but cis people be molesting each other so much they think trans people are doing it
>>44240221Have you tried rubbing two braincells together?
>>44239973I haven’t missed one of his streams in 5 years, it’s a staple of the week that I discuss with a buddy. When he mentions child pornographers he’s referring to the one or more people responsible for running child porn spam bots on his site, it’s a little war running in the background for a few months now. They spam because posting it doesn’t trace back to them, but its presence on the site requires that Josh take it down or he’d be held liable himself. This is why he’s complaining about ISPs and DDoS mitigation here, his site is blacklisted by the only companies capable of keeping it up and free of spam so the people who want it down are pushing to get him in trouble with the law by hosting material they put on his site. Strictly speaking, he doesn’t do anything actually illegal, but he is legally obligated to take the site down if he can’t keep illegal material off of it, and he can’t keep illegal material off of it if all the private companies hosting mitigation services choose to not do business with him. This would be fair enough normally, freedom of association and all of that, but the kicker here is that he’s actually got a lot of companies willing to do this for him that are blocked by the super major monopoly tier giants such as cloudflare that these smaller companies rely on. His site is morally detestable by many, but it does bring up interesting Internet legal questions now and then such as this and his debanking situation. Should private companies have the power to suffocate legal sites off the internet? Should private companies have the power to deny you the ability to make a payment? That second one in particular has been fascinating to watch, never realized how much your life can be ruined if you’re stuck with cash and checks as an internet based service.
>>44239973That's the type of material ddos attackers use to take the site down. Sometimes it's a hosting issue that can get you into legal hot water.
The website is literally up rn
>>44240337KF isn’t a legal site though. Stalking is illegal.
who is null
>>44240406That’s the thing about legality, it’s dreadfully specific. KF is a legally compliant site of the legally compliant company Lolcow LLC based in Wisconsin, USA. By the standards this company is held to within the relevant jurisdictions, it’s done nothing to break the law that has thus far been determined by a court of law. Not liking what they do or stand for doesn’t change that, specific charges must be placed against the company and convicted on to make it illegal.
>>44240459To be clear I know I sound super obnoxious stating this, that’s how legal shit is. It’s why everyone hates lawyers and bankers and whatnot, it’s powerful shit. Just look at what it’s done to Jewish reputation.
>>44240459It not having been prosecuted yet != not doing anything illegal
>>44240406Josh is funny though. I like his podcasts and tech talks. I dont want lose that :( ...wait maybe josh can do his podcast from jail?
>>44240337>Should private companies have the power to suffocate legal sites off the internet?It's not a legal site though.KF actually is a rare performer. Daily Stormer (a legal website!) shut down a few months ago under pressure like this. The Daily Stormer had way more of a leg to stand on to pontificate on this question than KF.It is in fact quite unfortunate that the Daily Stormer (again, a legal site) was forced to be closed before that fucking shithole was.>his site is blacklisted by the only companies capable of keeping it up and free of spamDo you believe in the free market or not?By the way, Gab.ai has its own options. I like that guy (torba? i thnk?) because he actually put his money, time and energy where his mouth is. He literally built his own ecosystem physically to get around blacklists. Now he is a provider of multiple services.Meanwhile, KF whines and basically wants socialism. Because that's what it is when you want companies to be forced to do business with you. Socialism. No different than the troons and fags he whines about.>His site is morally detestable by manyNo, nigga.Infowars, Daily Stormer, Gab, Stormfront, fuck... 4chan itself - these are "morally detestable by MANY"kf is morally detestable by ALL. do you understand that? Nobody outside his tiny bubble of sycophants thinks KF is a good idea to continue to exist. Exactly nobody.I guess that's a performance in itself. To be so fucktarded and insane that you outpace stormfront and 4chan.
>>44240479This is a guilty until proven innocent stance, which is not the legal precedent set in the USA.
>>44240097I hope null troons out
>>44240479What is he doing that's illegal though? All KF threads amount to archiving publically available information that the lolcows willingly give out.Are we not supposed to use our eyes to see and our mind to remember when a guy says he makes popsicles out of pee and sticks them up his ass publically on twitter?Is requesting public information like arrests warrant or logs of court proceedings illegal?Stalking has a very specific definition.If they dont physically show up at the cows doorstep or hack their shit there isn't a crime going on.Its just a bunch of freaks going up to the megaphone yelling loud as fuck I'M A REEETARD I'M A FUCKING MORON and then seething and malding and calling for legislation when the farms go "What you just did is retarded and stupid. Lolol"
>>44240514Agreed, Kiwifarms is anti-free speech. It exists to dox harass and supress public participation. The trannies they attack (Digital circus ect) are vastly more talented and better at making money than all of them there. If the site was gone I'm certain trannies would be vastly richer.
>>44240528?When has KF ever doxxed gooseworx retard
>>44240523nta but you're not wrong.null trooning out would be a very welcomed outcome.lowkey i'd consider being her boyfriend.
>>44240514> infowars> stormfrontBoth government funded glowsitesCoincidence SPLC gets caught funding the KKK and these sites all go away? Gab is something else, but mismanaged. KF and 4chan is just internet fans, a ban on them and what do we have left? Reddit? Come on, stop internet culture is allready getting thin.
>>44240536There is literally a 73 page threads about them. And there are millions of posts dedicated to doxing trannies.Trannies would participate more in public if it wasn't for kiwifarms.
>>44240526>All KF threads amount to archiving publically available information that the lolcows willingly give outDoxxing is illegal when the personal information is released with the intent to harass, threaten, stalk, cause severe emotional distress, or facilitate identity theft.This line of "we're just archiving public info bro" will not hold in court for much longer.Also, while the internet is global and kf is legally a us entity, other countries can (and increasingly do) block websites if they're in violation of national laws.KF is a good candidate for permanent ban in all of the EU since it violates the right to be forgotten by definition.I'm sorry you're bothered by positive rights but that's how civilization tends to work. There's limits to everything. Some limits aren't always explicitly codified because we rely on something called common sense. When common sense disappears or is grossly violated, then we legislate.Nobody except the most insane LOLbertarians will agree long term for shitholes like KF to continue to be allowed to operate. Normal people understand that it's not just okay but actively desirable to allow people to grow out of their youthful indiscretions. This is something both KF and woketards need to hear.Remember the guys who got expelled from college because they had a "racist tweet" at age 14? That sucked too, for the exact same reason.The right to be forgotten will be far more common in the near future and KF will necessarily be one of the "victims" of this. And that will be a very good thing.
>>44240514>legality of siteAgain, I don’t think it’s appropriate to label a site illegal based on a gut feeling after it’s been held to such scrutiny for so long. That said, if you have evidence of illegal activity that the site’s owner or company could be held liable for, there are many active parties looking to litigate that would love to hear about your tipoff.>Do you believe in the free market or not?I do, which is why mega corps with pseudo monopolies blocking pathways for legal businesses to do business isn’t very cool to me. Even an anarcho-capitalist would agree this isn’t the free market in action, as these mega corps only have this kind of power because of regulations they lobbied for preventing competitors from rising up and acquiring the rest. It’s true that Josh’s approach to remove freedom of association and force businesses to interact with him through government force isn’t how things should operate, but it’s the most likely thing he can get done vs. convincing the government to strip these corps of their regulatory bottlenecks.>His site is bad? No, it’s mega-badYeah it’s pretty morally detestable by many
>>44240185It's not a free speech violation if nobody wants to work with your creepy website null.Also reminder that Elon Musk literally censored the word "cis" on twitter
>>44240577>Even an anarcho-capitalist would agreeDid you actually read my comment? Specifically this part:>Nobody except the most insane LOLbertarians will agree long term for shitholes like KF to continue to be allowed to operate. Normal people understand that it's not just okay but actively desirable to allow people to grow out of their youthful indiscretions. This is something both KF and woketards need to hear.AnCaps are the most delusional LOLbertarians. Their opinion is marginal for a good reason. I'm talking about normal people. Normal people are neither ancaps nor turbocommie/sjw or maoist trannies.>these mega corps only have this kind of power because of regulations they lobbied for preventing competitors from rising up and acquiring the restYes. And normal people are okay with that because the line goes up and things are orderly by and large.>but it’s the most likely thing he can get doneNot at all. The government will gladly tell him to STFU or fabricate a case against him personally and throw him in jail.You seriously overestimate both how important this schmuck is and just how many people give a shit about turboautistic "principles".I use scarequotes because principles are only as good as their long term outcomes. They're not immutable dogma. If principles were immutable dogma, the civil rights act would've never been enacted.Nobody is going to risk anything for a subfacet of a principle in defense of what ammounts to a petty cyberbully who is also a grifter (admittedly, a talented grifter though).>Yeah it’s pretty morally detestable by manyOnce again you underestimate things. Except for turboautists like you, nobody thinks KF should be allowed to continue to exist. And thus will not be allowed to continue to exist. It really is that simple.There is no absolute right to internet infrastructure. Sorry.
>>44240655>Did you read my post?No, I didn’t read that post, it was in reply to a different person and not the comment I replied to. That said, I also never accused you of being an ancap, I said even an ancap would agree it’s not the free market in action, as you asked me if I believed in the free market or not. As for everything you’re bringing up about normal people, I reread your post and I can’t identify what you’d even be referring to when you say you’re “talking about normal people” so I assume you’re thinking of a different conversation.>mega corps are goodUnpopular opinion actually, but ok.>Not at all, gov will silence and/or jail him for tryingNever said it’s likely or that he’s important, I said that getting the government involved to stop being blacklisted is the most likely thing he can get done [to save his site]. Still a longshot, and you’re correct that few would consider his site staying to be where the line needs to be drawn, but he’s not getting through this any other way by the sound of it.>a lot of people don’t like it so it shouldn’t be allowed to existI don’t think it is that simple. A lot of people don’t like Jews but you bring up ending their existence and suddenly you’ve got a problem.
>>44240559Okay? Most public figures have a thread because its an e-celeb forum. Asmongolem has a thread. Zach Hadel has a thread.To me it'a genuinely a freedom of speech violation because no actual organized harrasment occurs on the site nor is it endorsed. It's for people to discuss and make fun of, share opinions, etc.You guys are really pulling some "Hacker named Anonymous" bs rn.A ban on KF is essentially just saying "you cant be rude online anymore. Soooory" because what exactly would stop people from making a second forum dedicated to the same thing.Do you really want someone to legally codify that you cant store and comment on public info anymore?When trannies here make a thread about Elliot Page, they are doing literally the same as what KF does. Should that be banned too?
>>44240655Hang on. *Is* there a thread on you on kf? LOL
