>Red states claim sex is binary and immutable and ban HRT for minors>simultaneously encourage forced "corrective" surgery on intersex babies that is unnecessary to align them with said binary.Why are they so cruel? Who benefits from this?
we should ban all forms of genital mutilation including circumcision, gender affirming care, and intersex intrusions
>>44251510Not all gac is "genital mutilation" though
>>44251493>Who benefits from this?they're scared their hookup wont be as hot as they want. no, really. children are future or even present sex objects to the vast majority of adults on this earth. in every country, in every culture.
>>44251493Church leaders (pyschopaths)
>>44251984These people will unironically tell you intersex people only exist because of "sin." Imagine telling a kid that.
>>44251493Muh lips r dry
>>44254170>chemical castration disables genitals based
>>44254305whatever happened making ppl gay manually. "gay gene" this "born this way" that cant we hyperexpose everyone to hot people of the same sex like back in the good old days
>>44254170my genitals work fine outside of being infertile, who cares?
>>44251493weird form and text for an award..
>>44251493On some level these exceptions are necessary. Some surgeries *are* medically necessary (such as the removal of streak gonads), and for some people hormones are medically necessary because they can't go through puberty themselves.Someone with Swyer syndrome will very probably receive cross-sex hormones to induce puberty, since according to radical conservative gender ideology someone with Swyer syndrome is male. They would produce sperm were it not for a condition making their gonads useless.>>44251510Mutilation is in the eye of the beholder. Ban medically unnecessary non-consensual surgeries. Including circumcision.>>44252050A friend has straight up told me I am a consequence of original sin. Fun conversation!
>>44256051>according to radical conservative gender ideology someone with Swyer syndrome is male.>They would produce sperm were it not for a condition making their gonads useless.Otoh pregnancy is possible in people with Swyer syndrome (and there is at least one case where this occurred without assistive reproductive technology) making (some of) them literally biologically female.
>>44251493None of those bills encourage/force cosmetic interventions on minors.They leave open the ability for intersex children to get hormones and surgeries that would otherwise not be allowed. There is no mandate to force them but trannies who like to exploit intersex people to defend themselves sure do love to paint it this way. There is no mandate that intersex children HAVE to be given surgery. There is only verbiage that says it CAN be allowed. This covers situations like an intersex child who is blatantly upset at their atypical sex characteristics and a medical team determines the best course of action is to perform surgery to alleviate the distress felt by the child. Modern medical protocols since John Money's retarded bullshit was overturned in the late 90s/early 2000s all stress delaying any non-medically necessary/cosmetic surgeries until the child is old enough to give input. When will troons stop lying about and exploiting intersex people as if we are their shields? When will troons care to learn anything about intersex people past what can be used as a talking point to enable trannies to get what they want?
>>44256328>pregnancy is possible in people with Swyer syndrome (and there is at least one case where this occurred without assistive reproductive technology)You are lying and retarded. No person with Swyer's has ever gotten pregnant without donor eggs.
>>44256051>Mutilation is in the eye of the beholderFinally a person who fucking gets it
>>44256051Are you the same Jenny that's in InterConnect?
>>44257353You know they aren't getting a choice. Their "Christian" parents are mutilating them as infants to fit into the supposed sex binary. Obviously if there is a health issue regarding urination or something that should be corrected but operating on healthy intersex genitalia is mutilation.
>>44258050>Their "Christian" parents are mutilating them as infantsThat is an issue of parents, not of laws. The faggot OP is trying to claim the LAW is bad for intersex people, because its bad for troons. >operating on healthy intersex genitalia is mutilation.Did you not read my post at fucking all?
>>44258074We need to ban parents from doing this, and circumcision as well.
>>44258097A parent is a child's guardian and in the example previously stated:>There is no mandate that intersex children HAVE to be given surgery. There is only verbiage that says it CAN be allowed. This covers situations like an intersex child who is blatantly upset at their atypical sex characteristics and a medical team determines the best course of action is to perform surgery to alleviate the distress felt by the child.The parent would be required to sign off on this being in the best interest of their child, because the child has expressed distress or desire to their guardian/parent.
>>44251510shouldn't it just be ok if you choose it and wrong if it's forced on youlike drinking or having sexwhatever happened to freedom?
>>44258126Yes, and that is the model intersex rights frameworks follow. Troons want to fearmonger that letting intersex people have anything denied to trannies (HRT, surgery) is wholly bad for intersex people, without giving two shits to learn about our reality or any nuance involved in these decisions. Current medical protocols do not involve John Money's bullshit gender theories, which advocated for early surgery/hormonal intervention and lying to the patient their whole life to prevent a "psychosocial" problem, as it was thought the child would never be able to be happy unless they were a "normal" man or woman instead of some sort of nonbinary. These ideas were abandoned when the David Reimer scandal in the late 90s prompted re-evaluation of intersex medical treatment that had been established largely by John Money experimenting on intersex kids from 1950 to the 2000s. That also lead to the retiring of the "hermaphrodite" diagnosis from the ICD, and the invention of the disorders of sex development category in 2006. Current medical protocols stress delaying any cosmetic intervention until the child can provide input/consent, and stresses taking the child's self-identification/wants into account above all else. There is no longer a John Money driven protocol to cut us up, lie to us, and hide our medical records from us.
>>44258159fuck off, no tranny thinks intersex people shouldn't have hrt or surgerystop trying to pick fights
>>44258194>intersex people shouldn't have hrt or surgeryThat isn't what I said, you illiterate coping moron.
>>44258195>Troons want to fearmonger that letting intersex people have anything denied to trannies (HRT, surgery) is wholly bad for intersex peopleno tranny is fearmongering hrt for intersex people
>>44258201Holyshit, can you read? You are either completely horrible at reading comprehension or just willfully misrepresenting what was said.
>>44257376I am not! Jenny is such an absurdly common name isn't it?>>44258126>whatever happened to freedom?For real.>>44258159David Reimer's story came out when I was 12. Fuck I'm old.>>44258194Sure but regularly using intersex people as a gotcha in the interest of trans people is actively eroding support for intersex rights.
Can i just say idgaf because they dont let you vote on peolle who represent your real interests.Its literally been Cheeto.Hitler Cheetler vs Retarded Kike in the US. Ever since Obamna
>>44257365Oh, it's the screeching moron again.https://sci-hub.box/10.1210/jc.2007-2155>Maternity was established at a probability exceeding99.15%.Your move, retard.>inb4 the doctors are lying
>>44259614You have moved the goalpost from Swyer's to Mosaicism. Your link is not about Swyer's. It is about mosaicism. You are retarded and have no idea what you're talking about. In every single reported case of an "XY" person getting pregnant with their own eggs, it is found that they have some cells that are NOT XY, particularly in the ovary. In the link you posted but are too ignorant on this topic to understand, you see:>93% 46,XY, 6% 45,X, and 1% 46,XX in theovaryThat is why she has eggs, you dumbfuck. No one with full XY/Swyer's has eggs.
>>44259614>imagine replying to gincel larping as intershit
