Seeing a lot of these posts today and yesterday -the cism on E, the femboy repper crowd are getting angsty as the dysphoric trans women use those those posts as rope-fuel and to fuel their dysphoric thoughts that they are really menbut - desu - yes I'm on HRT and blockers, yes I am a bisexual sub with a ton of MEF and yes, I feel beautiful and finally in control of my life when I'm referred and seen as a woman - but purely I am male who I think got fucked up in my puberty and adolescencei grew up in a K-12 private high school with a small class and made no friends. I would say I was a boy with heterosexual interests - I imagined kissing girls, felt butterflies around them ... however, since I was always left an outcast, sometimes referred to as a faggot and had low-self-worth, I was too afraid to embody myself as a man, to be male - and as a result due to years of conditioning, transitioning became the only solution to create my own sense of self -its not so much we are aclimating to femaleness, rather gripping to any identity set within a world of male-female that we can own ... because THEN if we are degraded and abused for being female, then at least its an identity we created - hence where MEF and us being generally subby comes in ... so to me, transitioning is a reclamation of the self, a divorce from our older selves.gender dysphoria didn't make me an outcast, me being outcasted made me have gender dysphoria as the issue with MtF trannies is that we all lacked a sense of self due to effed up adolescence or childhood and for our fucked up brains, it became wired that aclimating as the opposite sex is salvation and for fucked GD brained like ours, yes it is.so basically, its a force-humiliation cult.
>>44290162This is a very cute tummy, I want to kiss it
ok tranny
>>44290162Have you considered that it still takes something for a boy to have these issues develop into agp/mef/tranny thoughts thoughThere are lots of jeeps who were also successful as guys, those of us who struggled are just a lot more likely to start to explore these feelings early on.
Imagine typing all that text that no one is going to read
>>44290162many mtfs were success as men prior to transitioning doebeit
>>44290488>that it still takes something for a boylike what? what happened to me as a boy to make this ... happen?
>>44290944for me it was being molested
>>44290162If so, the existence of a single tranny who isn't into being degraded would prove you wrong.
>>44291151I wasn't molested. Nor into anime or whatever. I was an edgelord 15-year old teen in 2017 into YTPs and dank memes.
>>44290162>because THEN if we are degraded and abused for being female, then at least its an identity we created - hence where MEF and us being generally subby comes in ... so to me, transitioning is a reclamation of the self, a divorce from our older selves.Look up the great androgyn in relation to alchemy and the philosopher stone
>>44290944idk something in your brain development wired wrong, you were probably born with it
>>44291405i did this and now i have nothing left to aspire to
>>44291950It's said the last time St. Germaine was seen he was in a secret city in some mountains for alchemists that had figured nothing left to learn, a community of people that had discovered the philosopher stoneHe had an old friend track him down and the friend described Germaine as having become more feminine and divine both spiritually and physically
>>44292024agp smirk
>>44292226Truke
>>44290162https://www.oocities.org/transsexual_analysis/transsexual5.html
>>44293327thank you, this was helpful
>>44293432Try reading the whole thing. It's related to what OP is talking about
>>44293327i remember when it was always "m2f" instead of mtf
>>44290162i think some hardline tranners are very metaphysical. "i AM a woman" is a kind of statement like "tomatoes ARE a fruit." no consideration really for a material basis, even if that basis would be social and complex. it borders on the divinely ordained. many here, i think have a better understanding of how to spot the flaws in that. but because they you understand well that the idea you are "purely a woman" is not a statement thats always going to make sense. but because the statement youre opposing is framed this way you keep that framing when you say you are "purely a man." and the 4tran userbase will always turn an overly confident IWABAW into an overly bleak and self loathing IWNBAW.
>>44294196*but because of their self loathing they dont know what to do with those cracks and throw themselves in the most negatively associated category
>>44294196well actually the fruit analogy makes less sense in the context of the following lol. i mean its the same kind of overconfident in that your definition is THE most useful for the situation
>>44294196Nta but I transitioned because I want to be a woman, I'm gender dysphoric. Whether that makes me a woman in an ontological sense is beyond the point
>>44294278literally this lmao. op.
>>44290162bitch dont speak for me i dont have whatever tf u got going on im just dysphoric from birth
>>44290162to call this a midwit post would be generous
i love how there's a sect of trans woman who just accepts they have gd and accepts they are women and then you have these bitches who the largest mental gymnastics to avoid just saying, "I'm a girl." ...
>>44294871to call this a midwit response would be generous.
sometimes i think to myself that i was never even a person until i trooned. maybe it was the first real decision i ever made, everything else was just prescribed...
>>44295036Yes my life before that was just floating in a limbo
>>44290162
>>44290162Anyone else here a truly dysphoric trutranny but larp as a cis man/femboy/MEF on HRT just to get a rise out of people on this board? It's honestly pretty fun.Most of these people are heavily repped trannies or genuinely are cis and just don't give af about their gender identity and their sex aligning. I think the most amusing thing is trying to convince them to come out/socially transition because I know they can never put the cat back in the bag. Once other people know, they'll have to live with being the tranny they were all along, lol.
>>44296831>Anyone else here a truly dysphoric trutranny but larp as a cis man/femboy/MEF on HRT just to get a rise out of people on this board?>I like menMeta-attraction>I'm a bottomMEF>I'm girlmodingAGP>I'm boymodingHRT femboy>I'm a late transitionerTransmaxxer>I don't passCis m on E>I'm still reppingIncelEasy
>>44297004ive liked boys since i was 4 years old and i still fell for the agp meta attraction meme
>>44297033>i still fell for the agp meta attraction memehow so?
>>44297004>>I'm a late transitioner>TransmaxxerThis is actually true for me though lmao
>>44297054internalized homophobia i think. and for agp self inserting as the woman in porn
>>44297123That's the point
>>44297139but did it make you rep or what?
>>44297033well you probably are meta-attracted. have you ever felt good about yourself? that's because you have a fetish.
>>44297161ohh no i repped but not because of that. agp isnt something to be ashamed about
>>44297170>well you probably are meta-attractedyes i am but its not the cause of my attraction to men like blanchard posters say >have you ever felt good about yourself? yes wdym>that's because you have a fetish.who doesnt
>>44297189luckythis was one of the main reasons that made me rep. i was really ashamed
>>44297272like internally or of others seeing you as subhuman faketrans?
>>44295104fr
>>44297347internally
>>44297374oh i imagine thats worse, how did you end up getting through it?
>>44290162>if we are degraded and abused for being female, then at least its an identity we createdI like this a lot, very wise. Can't express how raped I feel performing the male role given to me.
>>44297394i slowly accepted the fact that it could be a fetish that i had absolutely no control over and that the solution would be to troon out anyway, even if i was faketrans. after coming out to some friends and starting HRT, AGP disappeared almost completely and i found out that my attraction to men was real, but it wasnt shocking because i knew i was bi since forever
>>44297486ah see it was just brainworms im glad you got through it
>>44297557not the average brainworms at the time. it was 100% sexual and textbook AGP. i didnt even expect it to change when i started HRT
>>44297599Iirc agp weakens with exposure
>>44297642i think it was just a coping mechanism tbhon
>>44297661It's a good outlet for dysphoria
>>44297599i mean the part about internalizing that it invalidates you is brainworms
>>44294889midwit offence is rarely interesting
>>44296831>Once other people know, they'll have to live with being the tranny they were all along, lol.thisto simply being branded a tranny is enough to make your life worse, esp if you don't have any support.