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One of the most common phrases I hear about trannies is “you’re allowed to do what you want, I just don’t like it being shoved down my throat”
Were we supposed to be shoving things down throats? I’m afraid I didn’t get the memo.
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are we still doing the "pretending not to understand" thing? they mean changing the definition of words like "woman" and changing laws and changing school curriculums to include trans stuff and changing the medical language to say stuff like "birthing people" and suing women's spaces that don't allow trannies or beauty salons that don't wax balls and turning everything into a legal battle over definitions and trying to change the english language itself and revising history to pretend gender and sex weren't synonyms in the past for example and for forcing preferred pronouns and sensitivyy training in the work place under threat of losing your job for example. hope this helps.
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>>44293945
cis people cannot handle other people existing it's so weird
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>>44293945
pretty much this. they are or should be referring to the political progressives and organizations, not transgenders themselves
transgender men and women deserve rights, female women and male men deserve the ability to associate and be respected separately. the lobbyists have eroded the latter in your name.
despite radical inclusivity's attempts to avoid the topic, full self-ID will never not be an issue. don't touch my tax money if you can't get together and say that sadistic perverts can't.
transgender children should be able to live happily, but any transition must A. always be done with the assent of their guardians and B. be done after psychological evaluations, with treatment if necessary.
tlc and wpath are just as intent on stoking the flames and increasing polarization as any conservative, but self-serving trannies won't give a fuck about other people or how they are represented until they are handled like a fly on the wall
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>>44294529
The problem is that they don't distinguish between organizations and individuals. If you're trans then you're automatically member of big trans in their minds
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>>44294529
The changing of the medical stuff was almost always optional, that shit was done so people who ID as nonbinary or trans don't get scared away from healthcare. Because trans people have an issue with health avoidance
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>>44294472
Almost every time I come here I have to scroll past trancels who think they are entitled to different types of hatred, xenophobia, misanthropy and anti-pluralism because they had bad experiences. Is it really a "cis" thing?
For better and for worse, you all and I all just humans. We suppress our fears and traumas to respect others and look upon them gently, while trying to protect ourselves and the people and values we care about using non-violence whenever possible.
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>>44293354
>>44293945
i'm never going to let people forget that this all started with Florida making it illegal to talk to 6-9 year olds about sex in schools and everyone made it the Don't Say Gay law and this all spiraled from there.
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>>44294472
so we ARE still doing the whole pretending not to understand thing. good to know
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>>44294529
>always be done with the assent of their guardians
why?
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>>44293354
straight people are allowed to stuff their disgusting fetishes down everyone’s throat, it’s only bad when fags do it
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>>44295702
Now that I think about it more, I don't really know. It is hard to argue for absolutely without making statements about youth rights as a whole, which is a larger topic.
Children are vulnerable, and the life of pubescent minors in particular is almost universally tough. It's well understood that teenagers can just feel uncomfortable with their gender and sex for reasons that don't need medical transition. Parents also have... some rights, to be parents, and serve as a check on the world around them and the wishes of the child.
But if a child is about to commit suicide or has already made an attempt, the rights of the child to be treated outweigh the rights of the parent. A properly evaluated minor who otherwise genuinely needs help may be capable of understanding the risks of transition by late puberty. I'm extremely sympathetic towards all neurodivergent children who have parents who are slower to understand or accept what they are affected by due to social taboos. And the possibility of facing disciplinary action by state medicine boards, or getting sued for medical malpractice on maturity, may be enough of a liability to dissuade doctors from becoming pill mills for growing children.
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>>44296515
in the end not taking puberty blockers is a choice too. normal kids don't desire that. Even if 49% detrans its still a net good
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>>44293945
>changing school curriculums to include trans stuff
>revising history to pretend gender and sex weren't synonyms in the past
You want to groom kids into being cishet via educational blackout, because that’s the only way that you can ensure everyone stays in their boxes of societal conformity
>forcing preferred pronouns and sensitivyy training in the work place under threat of losing your job
Yes, you have a responsibility to be tolerable in order for people to work with you. You may be fired for impeding productivity by driving everyone away from you.
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>>44293354
>>44294472
It means "people shouldn't be obliged to pretend you are the opposite sex that you wanna be" or more directly: "I don't want to have to pretend you are a woman to please you".
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>>44297210
You've never met a tranny in your entire life, it's a hypothetical that was fed to you by algorithms. You've never had to do anything you don't want to in order to appease people that's just never happened. Just focus on your own life.
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>>44297210
You’re legally allowed to misgender me, you just may be deemed by your friends and colleagues to a be jerk and they may act accordingly



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