should i, as a cis woman, be letting my trans gf top me? she has been bringing it up lately. i think i may feel weirder about it than she does
>>44326933Only if you want too
>>44326933NO! piv is gross and unholy
>>44326933No piv isn't allowed for trans women
>>44326933cis f chaser here yea its really awesome especially if your girl is the one who actively wants to as long as she doesnt have major bottom dysphoria its a really intimate experience, would highly recommend
>>44326972KILL YOURSELF
>>44326972>>44326933am I the only cis f chaser that doesn't want piv?
>>44326933>>44326972prove youre cisf
>>44326972Larp kys
>>44326977yes and ur one of the rare good ones
>>44326977if YOU dont want it thats an entirely different story, softly reject her >>44326979want a pussy pic or smthing
>>44326998Ew no just post ur license and date
>>44326998I'm not op
>>44326998i want one
>>44327013im good off that just call me a larp
>>44326972part of the reason i'm kind of hesitant is that she hasn't fully unpacked how she feels about her bottom dysphoria. in the past she's said that she doesn't have much nor does she become triggered at all when we sleep together, but that's probably due to the fact she doesn't feel obligated to top me like she has with her previous partners. why mess with a good thing?also i am afraid i want it a bit too much bc i am, regrettably, also a chaser, but i care way more about her than i do my fetish. i just worry that if i didn't have a thing for trans girls i wouldn't consider it at all? idk
>>44327034why do you have a thing for trans girls?
>>44326998yes post a pussy pic with timestamp
>>44327034if you want genuine advice - go about it like any other new sexual experience. slowly and carefully and such. if it triggers/doesnt trigger her then you'll both have a deeper understanding of how her dysphoria works and what to focus on/stay away from also if you're afraid of your own desire, dont be! dont think about it as like.. you wanting tgirl cock. think about it as you wanting to get pleasured by your girl, its honestly no different from a cis lesbian couple using a strap on
>>44327045on top of basically gamp sexuality, i like weedy, nerdy (read: autistic) girls. i spent too much time on this website from a young age and i can't feel romantic connections with normies. i might have a bit of a savior complex too
>>44326933>>44326972>>44326977>>44327034>>44327092cis f chasers aren't real, cis women like straight trans women because they are extra spicy feminine gay men (safe) but bi/transbians disgust cis women (perverted threat). This is why I don't tell people I'm bi and pretend to only be into men.
>>44327311this, vast majority of cis women are privately disturbed and disgusted by gynephile trannies. non abusive c4t where they actually see you as and treat you like a woman only exists for gigapassoids and youngshits and even then its rare
>>44326933Yes, if you'd like that. She says she likes it too so it's okay to just let it happen and enjoy it when it does.>>44326972Jealous. I wanna have that kind of intimacy with a cis gf so bad.>>44327034It sounds mutual, so don't be afraid. You'll both enjoy it a lot and it'll be a bonding experience if you get out of your head about it.>>44327092You sound like a sweetheart. Troubled, but a sweetheart. Your gf is happy to have you, isn't she?
>>44326933yes, you should let hem impregnate you with its potent virile semen
>>44327311also cis f chaser, i feel the same way. something about growing up autistic made it easier to understand and relate to trans women than cis peers who treated me like i was subhuman. ik it's not the same "othering" trans women face i'm not implying that but idk i just want to be there for them. i want to make life a little easier for them
>>44326933>should i, a woman have sex with my boyfriend?
>>44326933Samarina mentioned <3
i plap my evangelical DL cis f latina secret gfsounds like a mouthful i know
>>44328628how does her relationship with you affect her view on whats gonna happen to her during the rapture
>>44328430fr autistic women are trans women's greatest ally as long as the transmasc cult doesn't get to them first and have them detrans into terfs
>>44328649not sure, we don't talk about religion a lotshe probably believes she's going to be left behind, but most people would be left behind tooeven in a church full of believers, only one or two would actually get taken up if an event like the rapture were to take place
>>44328430>>44328673ig autistic women are the exception. I know an autistic woman who seems to like me and I think she's cute, but if I wear to date a cis woman I feel like it would ruin my reputation, because it would out me as being bi which normies find repulsive. It's a shame because she seems like a really kind and sweet person, but I am limited to only dating cis men for the sake of appearing more normal :/
>>44328709you're better off. cis women are only capable of seeing trans women as biodaddy-lite
>>44328709how do you still have bodily functions with this amount of worms wriggling about in your brain nona
>>44327034> she hasn't fully unpacked how she feels about her bottom dysphoriaIf you go forward with this, you should plan on her having some form of emotional breakdown. Only proceed if you are willing to handle this gracefully. This is the sort of experience that very well could be the moment she learns she needs SRS.
>>44326933you can do whatever you want forever. as long as you both consent and like it it’s completely okay
>>44329107that's a real good point nona>>44329075this is kind of what i'm worried about. she's shared that she feels weird (but not bad) about having a pp, like it doesn't feel exactly right to her, but otherwise she doesn't really have bottom dysphoria and doesn't want srs. she's been transitioning for a couple years now, so idk if she's at a point where things are still in flux. i do feel prepared if she has an emotional breakdown. we're pretty emotionally in tune with one another, and her brainworms are kill on sight for me. would rather not have her an emotional breakdown if we could avoid that thus my complicated feelings on the matter
>>44326977Wait, why are you a chaser then? You sure you arn't just a wholesome cis lesbian (or bi woman) who is just cool about dating trans women?If not, what's the catch? Why do you chase?
>>44328430Autism is overrepresented amongst trans women. You sure you arn't just an autistic woman into other autistic women?That's not really being a chaser, that's just autist4autist
>>44330102Trannies have male brains and socialization so they do the "boyfriend" role while also being a castrated longboi
>>44329678you're such a beautiful loving soul wtf...how do i find a chaser that treats me this well? i would do piv with her if she was okay with it because i honestly kinda like my dick anyway
>>44326933No unless you truly want it
>>44327034um you should tell her that. rly>>44327092wow cute. shes lucky
>>44330220Lol, not likely. What boyfriend things do you think a trans woman would do for you?
>>44330296don't respond nona, thy've been doing this reverse terf brainworms shit all thread and have helped nobody with ittrolls like that exist because replies like this are feeding them
>>44330315Fair, sorry. I'll try to do better.
>>44330437ily nona please be kind to yourself and the ones you love
>>44330296Transwomen often find they have to maintain their partner's attention and play the dumb male mating dance to keep the woman's attentionpay for thingsyou knowsimping?
>>44330488Never date cis
>>44330496it trve, she'll drag you down and beat you (off) with experience
>>44330505Cis men: will become violent if their heterosexual status get threatened Cis women: see you as a soft bf and expect you to be onePooners: will leave you for a cis man, always gaydens deep down
>>44329678im going to start crying you sound so kind and understanding please never change
>>44330488Trans women make, like, 60 cents to the dollar a cis person does. Good luck finding a trans woman who is dumb enough to use her limited paycheck to pay for you.
>>44330566We earn less than cis women on average lol
>>44328752nta but you learn to live with it. thats what us brainwormed fools do.....
>>44330468I will, thank you!
I want to be sitting on a trans girl with her pp in my v while we are facing each other hugging and kissing intensely and passionate and she would slowly and gently thrust up and down and I'd do the same pushing up and down and we'd just keep sloppily kissing and hugging and groping each other's boobs
>>44330225i think way more cis women are open to dating trans women than people here would think. I believe i can speak from a position of authority here as i know many cis women and i larp as a normie in my day-to-day. the vast majority would also be willing to treat you like i treat my girl unless they are just evil... tho tbdesu with a lot of cis women you might have to help them understand some of the things trans women go thru, especially if they're normie and not tapped into 'queer culture'. i was at an advantage bc i was already friends with a lot of trans women before i even met my girl (as mentioned by a previous anon, autist4autist is peak in any relationship-- romantic or platonic). and there are still lots of things she goes through that i don't even really come close to understanding (”baudrillard made me trans" comes up frequently but we are also unfortunately in a problematic intelligence gap relationship), but i figure that even if i don't understand i can still help her cope... anyways yeah i think, i hope, everyone would do that for the person they love. it ain't far out of reach by any means >>44330271tell her that i'm chaser? she must never know. it doesn't even seem relevant to our relationship bc my attraction/love for her feels completely separate to that. i am more than a little bit ashamed. i top her frequently as reparations
>>44330987this would be heaven for a subby futamoder like me oh my gosh...
>>44331083thank u for writing this it makes me feel a little hopeful
>>44330987this is definitely my favorite typa sex
>>44330488posts like these really make it obvious how little relationship experience the "you just want a safe man" self hating mtf anons are. like duh we are doing little mating dances *for one another* because we like each other. we always fight over who gets to pay on dates because we both want to be gratuitously generous *to each other*. we take turns but we're certainly not keeping score by any means bc that's not really something that happens with two securely attached individuals.the great thing about lesbian relationships is that you're not bound by stupid gender norms and you both get to express affection for each other any way you want to. it was the exact same when i dated cis women in the past, and i would be willing to bet the same is true in t4t relationships. i hope you're able to stave off the bitterness long enough to see what true love is like
>>44331083>tell her that i'm chaserno i mean i dont know her but i wouldnt mind if you rephrased and told me you were worried bc"i dont think that u have">fully unpacked how she feels about her bottom dysphoriabc>the fact she doesn't feel obligated to top me like she has with her previous partners. why mess with a good thing?and>i am afraid i want it a bit too much bc i ambut most importantly >i care way more about her than i do my fetishand u can mention ur insecure about>if i didn't have a thing for trans girls i wouldn't consider it at allthat means wanting to get topped right?if you told me that i would be very happy that you trust me to tell me and care about me that much and i would try anything for you>my attraction/love for her feels completely separate to that. i am more than a little bit ashamed.ok so how do i find people like you? like there is no reason to be ashamed this is just opposite brainworms. if its a dealbreaker then your incompatible and thats fine, is that what this shame is a proxy for? or can you live without it? how frequently? is trying enough or does it have to be regular even if infrequent? the only reason to feel shame is to really need it and her not want to and for you to lie and stay together while cheating and not compromising or being honest about both of your mutual needs. and also specifically the mechanics of what you think you want or need and if you can make that work other ways like if you can get that sensation fulfilled with restraints control buildup denial toys or something else or even if you could just find a different position or way of moving that makes her comfortable and meets what you are looking for. if you are open enough about it with eachother you could have a long time and lot of fun trying to make it work even if it doesnt in the end you can part amicably. i know thats not ideal but it could also work out ideally, maybe theres things u dont know about u too. easier to say than do but gl
>>44326933With a strapon?
do transbians not like f chasers? like i thought that was a problem for straights w m chasers bc it invalidates them as women? as a a/gamp its kinda extra hot when a cis f looks like a clocky tranny and my ideal gf is probly a giga autist fujoshi yandere that looks like an unkempt boy and also wont ever leave me alone. femcel christmas cake pls we can save eachother. also applies to trans i rly dont have a pref
>>44332817i like men but i like the validation from being attractive to women but i have no desire to reciprocate. probably how straight men appreciate being desirable to gay men as long as they are not homophobic that is.
>>44332870yeah that makes sense but thats why i said transbians. like OP is in a wlw relationship wouldnt that make cisf like validating? unless its exclusively about anatomical preference, but it doesnt sound that way. idk maybe i misunderstand
>>44332917The women admitting to being chasers here are ok.We don't like the ones that demand PIV sex and act like jerks when rejected. I once saw a cis woman chaser throw a tantrum where she used TERF lingo after every trans woman on a discord server rejected her.
>>44333121they really are the female version of a chud
>>44332817I like them, but I'm also a freak that somehow dodged all of the tttt and reddithon brainworms and can selfvalidate my own womanhood without falling into insanity. Outside of that I'd only be worried about if we got along as people and could trust each other.
>>44327034its actually rlly sweet of u that youre thinking of this. i'm post op with a cis gf rn and im genuinely so glad i never piv'd anyone pre-op. i also hope shes treating u good cause good fchasers should be *treasured* imo
>>44327311>>44327341both untrue. ive fucked a fair amount of cis women post transition. im like half-passing at best. this is a meme that gendercrits and mchasers both have a vested interest in spreading around, but if ur reasonably hot, post op, and not like, incredibly male socialized about approaching women, most cisles are really sweet
>>44331252Um, there are absolutely lesbian relationships where a woman is the lesbian--motivated to keep her partner--and the other is some normal ass bi bitch whose attention needs to be continually affirmed, since she's the princess and the lesbian is a simp.
>>44330225>>44330553Have some self-respect, jfc. A cis woman treats a tranny like a human and you are ready to declare her a saint.>>44329678>she's shared that she feels weird (but not bad) about having a pp, like it doesn't feel exactly right to her, but otherwise she doesn't really have bottom dysphoria and doesn't want srsHonestly, in light of that, might be of value to do it. Very good chance it breaks her and makes her re-evaluate things, but only because it makes her more acutely aware of reality.
>>44327311straight trans women are creepy skinwalkers, transbians are safe straight men
>>44334188>fuckedim talking about dating. i could probably go clubbing or something right now and fuck a cis girl if i really wanted to. i dont want hookups, i dont care that much about sex, i want emotional intimacy and a monogamous relationship>post opof course lesbians are sweet to you and want you and are willing to be with you, you have a vagina and you may as well be cis. i have a dick. hence the rub, what i said absolutely is true if youre pre op, especially if youre not perfectly passing. and im talking about actual lesbians who arent abusive and will actually see you as a woman, not bi chasers who see you as man litei will agree that cis lesbians are really sweet though, theyve always been the most understanding and nice to me out of anyone and i tend to get along better with cis women than other trannies. i hope i can date one someday
>>44335299>straightIf they were straight, their sexual locus would be external and predator-visioned.Nearly every transbian is a bisexual male, like transwoman chasers.The scary ones are the autists that need female plap holes exclusively... the rapehon, if you will.
>>44335431well post-op does change things ya, I will admit. mchasers have memed this whole board into being rabidly srs recently, but I can tell you from experience that a good srs job rlly helps if you want to be with a cis woman.as for hookups vs relationships, I was being kind of needlessly crude. I had a fair amount of hookups last summer, but one of them turned into a longer term thing. and we've been together for like a year now. she *is* bi, so, you know, I had my suspicions, but she's never rlly given any indication that she sees me as a man. and from what I gather she doesn't really do anything long-term like this with men, anyway, so i figure that i'm at least non-man status here, whatever the fuck I am to her. which is to say if I was more brainwormed I couldve easily thrown this all away by assuming i was being 'safe-man'd but nothing irl rlly indicates that that's the dynamic... idk i just think people on this board get insane about cis women sometimes lol.anyways, good luck finding ur cis gf anon! i hope u do!
>>44334188Yeah they are sweet if they think you are a straight trans woman. Cis women are always very kind to me and talkative, I get along with cis women irl the best out of any group. But I don't tell them I'm bi because I don't want them (straight cis women in particular) to be creeped out by me. Autistic women are usually chill with trans women, and bi cis women are okay as long as you don't express attraction to them specifically. If you think otherwise then you are delusional in what people really think of tranbians and bi trannies. >>44335299Factually incorrect, pretty much all hons are transbians. Normie (and not conservative) cis women like straight trans girls. What really matters is being both into men plus not into women (non threat) as well as not being ugly. 99% of transbians violate both. >>44335431Cis lesbians from my experience (presenting as a straight trans girl but repressed bi) are the kindest chillest people.>>44335603No cis lesbian is attracted to trans women unless you are a gigapassoid and post-op. The main female demographic into trannies are autistic bi women, which are still far less common than bi men (the majority of people into trannies)
>>44335431>>44335603sorry, I feel like Im not rlly speaking to the actual things you brought up so much as my own preoccupations, I will say, though, I am not "basically cis" by any stretch of the imagination. by this board's standards I think id be something between a reasonably attractive androgyne and a brick depending on the camera angle. im also a huge heighthon and a shoulderhon so make of that what you will. i still get sirred by strangers on the regular. about as often as I get ma'amed. but, you know, if you can make it a look a lot of lesbians are into that.I feel like where most straight guys focus nowadays is tits and ass on a curvateous feminine figure, most lesbians priorities are tits and pussy and they can get excited about an androgyne figure. probably if i wanted more attention id go for a subtle breast aug
>>44335755just be attractive nothing else matters. i tried making it work with women and many liked me but i only like men. it sounds like you have a bit of internalized blanchardism. outside this board people dont care in my experience.
>>44335755>If you think otherwise then you are delusional in what people really think of tranbians and bi tranniesidk dude. that's my personal experience and this sounds like boilerplate mchaser propaganda, so I'm inclined to believe that this is more a neurosis you got from the internet than a narration of empirical experience. if you approach cis women respectfully, tactfully, and artfully, even the ones who arent into it will generally just find a polite excuse to say "can't, I'm busy" and move on. /tttt/ culture has made y'all scared of cooties again lol.
>>44331546>that means wanting to get topped right?well yesto answer your questions, i can live without piv. she's probably the only partner i've ever had where i could be completely happy just having regular loving vanilla sex because i'm so in love with her and i don't really see that changing. maybe tmi but i always get off with her and that hasn't happened with my previous partners. it's just satisfying on another level which is why i'm not too bothered about the piv stuff. i'm also a kinky degenerate and she does let me indulge in that sort of thing so i really don't feel like i'm missing out on anything sexually. >like there is no reason to be ashamed this is just opposite brainwormsthis really does put it into perspective for me tho thank you nona>>44335209okay yeah facts, idk if you were intending to be mean but you kinda have a point there. i'm the first girl she's been with post-transition, before she was only with men and before she transitioned only with women in a comphet sort of way. i'm happy to be a part of her discovering herself and i know for a fact she's safe with me if the aftermath isn't what she expects. maybe it's best just to figure it out so she can get square with that part of her
>>44335812>just be attractive nothing else mattersYeah I'm going to get full face FFS done. I already pass and am reasonably good looking. I look way better than majority of trans women even though that's a low bar lol>i tried making it work with women and many liked me but i only like menI'm like mostly attracted to men, but men also suck, so that's the issue I have, but I'll probably end up with a man>if you approach cis women respectfully, tactfully, and artfully, even the ones who arent into it will generally just find a polite excuse to say "can't, I'm busy" and move on. Cis women don't always say everything they think, they are socialised to not directly tell someone they creep them out or are disgusted by them. Maybe I do have brainstorms but I like getting along with straight cis women in a plantonic way and don't want to ruin that.>/tttt/ culture has made y'all scared of cooties again lol.Not true at all, pretty much 99% of the people I socialise with irl are cis women. I get along with cis women quite well and always have since I was a kid. I just hide the brainworms from them, and only talk about my attraction to men. I'm actually scared of cis men, the people who I really want to date lol. Cis men scare me due to past assault, abuse, etc, whereas cis women are so much easier to talk to and be friends with.
>>44335773>well post-op does change things yaive thought about getting srs but its just not where i would want it to be :( and theres so many things that can go wrong and youll probably need revisions and dilating sounds like such a pain >i still get sirred by strangers on the regular. about as often as I get ma'amed. but, you know, if you can make it a look a lot of lesbians are into that.i had ffs fairly recently and i havent gotten misgendered since. i think people can definitely tell, im a twinkhon by the standards of this board but i efforthon girlmode and use a trained voice and im cute i think so people give me a pass. it probably helps that most people assume im a normie straight woman into men. hopefuel that youve made that work though, maybe i stand a chance eventually>>44335603>I couldve easily thrown this all away by assuming i was being 'safe-man'dI mean, youve had srs lol. safe to say thats not the case>good luck finding ur cis gf anon! i hope u do!thank u <3
>>44335923>Cis women don't always say everything they think, they are socialised to not directly tell someone they creep them out or are disgusted by themsure. but again, if you just take the hint quickly and move on, take it in stride, you will at most be a fleeting thought in their heads, like any cisles who shoots their shot and gets rejected. the real menaces tend to be the ones who get all insecure about rejection like that, cause they get all in their heads about "does she secretly hate me???" etc. let their private thoughts be private. take it in stride.>Maybe I do have brainstorms but I like getting along with straight cis women in a plantonic way and don't want to ruin thatsee thaats fair tho. i'm not saying hit on your friends that'll cause drama unless you do it veryyyy carefully lol.
>>44326933what is pic from?
>>44336005Fear and Hunger 2
>>44336077okii thank you
>>44331083>i top her frequently as reparationsthis is nice
>>44335299>straight men>safe
>>44335209>A cis woman treats a tranny like a human and you are ready to declare her a saint.we've been through a lot...
>>44335910No, I wasn't trying to be mean. I'm serious. Make her understand what being a bepenised creature is.>>44337910All the more reason to have self-respect, you'll be through a lot more if you make it easy for predators to feign kindness.
>>44328447trooth nook
what exactly do you like about trans women. I just see myself as gross person that's some weird uncanny in between and my genitals are kinda gross like they're the wrong ones. It would be fine if I had the right ones but it's weird to have the wrong ones on the wrong gender
am i just an agp faketrans pervert if i don't feel any bottom dysphoria at all and like my pp?
>>44339655ya but its all g i think
Your "girl"friend is an AGP retard.
>>44326933as a clamgirl if i had a ppgirl gf i would want her to top me please
>>44326933Where is cow these days? I think she could pull a cis-f chaser feeder if there was such a thing. What could be a better self esteem boost than looking at a fat tranny that you're helping ruin every day?
>>44335209>Have some self-respect, jfc. A cis woman treats a tranny like a human and you are ready to declare her a saint.its. not their fault nona, we get constantly mistreated by everyone within/without the "community" that we crave respect and love, thats why u get girls like that that is too forgiving. don't blame our sisters for being a bit desperate.
>>44339949wtf is a clamgirl and ppgirl
>>44340103both trans girls, one has had srs the other kept her pp. its the perfect lesbian couple.wish i had a clamgirlfriend
>>44339949hot>ppgirl top
>>44339949its the supreme lesbo couple.i wish we bring back the clamgirl and dickgirl thread. it was a fun one.
>>44339949>>44340243>>44340324>>44340533should we make a clamgen?
>>44341228do it. it'd be nice.
>>44341257>>44341935done
bump
do cis f chasers who like piv even exist? everyone says they do but the only ones i ever see are ones so brainwormed they could never enjoy it like OP
>>44346935They’re real and they’re disgusting
>>44340103pp girl is a girl who has a pp and a clam girl has a hole instead so the pp girl can put her pp into the clam girl it's the best way to have sex
