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How can you tell if a boy is feminine if he dresses like a normal boy?
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>>44338665
A thread died for this twitter screenshot
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>>44338665
gay bottoms are mostly coping
that one lady who said that being gay is often a consolation prize for not being a woman is kinda right
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>>44338673
What about gay tops?
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>>44338665
The boys at school somehow new i was a tranny long before I figured it out myself
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>most gender non conforming kids grow up to be gay adults
doubt. My bet is simply most of them grow up to be normal cisgender and heterosexual adults.
>gay erasure
I'm sorry, faggots are not the center of the universe
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>>44338682
Gay tops come in three varieties:
Closet bottoms
Hypermasculine gigachads/rapids
Bichads
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If you’re a gay bottom you have no reason to not take HRT
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>>44338689
same, i wish they made it more clear and gave me a sense of urgency to troon out much sooner than i did
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>>44338849
I got voted "most vsco girl" for my high school yearbook lol
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>>44338665
Gay men not trying to be the center of the community challenge
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>>44338715
>>44338843
Good posts
As a straight man, it is so obvious the people calling trans groomers are just gay faggots.
All of these faggots need to be raped and put on HRT.
They are disgusting freaks anyway, just rape them and formally turn them into women, like how Persia does it.
Rape the faggots.
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>>44338864
I got told I'd marry a butch classmate and be the wife
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>>44338665
you do realize that many people still believe homosexuality is unnatural and a result of grooming, right? feels weird to draw the line here
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>>44338873
How did she feel about that lmao?
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no one is "transing the kids" other than themselves you fucking glowie file
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>>44338665
I was a gender non-conforming kid. So non-conforming that my family thought I might be gay.
But sometime starting int the late 90s my mom started actively questioning my gender instead. Debating it with herself, retrospectively, in front of me. I think prompted indirectly by David Reimer.
Still nobody force-fed me estrogen about it. Though maybe it saved me from being force-fed testosterone and growth hormone instead. Who knows?
I'm close to asexual but to the extent I'm attracted to anyone it's women. I'm basically gaymaxxing.
You happy?
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>>44338843
Troons telling someone to take literal poison when they do something slightly out of the normal are the gay equivalent of the type of shit the IDF does. Seriously you people are rabid about that shit.
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>>44338715
this, GAG just wants indoctrinate children into NAMBLA
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>>44338665
Every child was GNC at some point. Even I was GNC and still not trans identified. This is advanced grooming 101
>>44338870
Homophobic tranny lover
>>44338890
Homosexuality is innate like in sheep. You never see sheep troon out (fish don't troon out, that doesn't count)
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>>44338665
>transitioning them is gay erasure
holy shit thats the most hilarious thing i have ever heard hahahahaha oh my god. Gay erasure. LMAO.
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>>44339368
I'm sure if you have sheep heightened consciousness and the ability to troon out they would
Legitimately optimal bottom strategy is estrogenizing yourself to better appeal to bisexual tops
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seethe harder homos, trannies are the future
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>>44338665
This is in the same vein as deaf people shitting on other deaf people for getting a hearing aide or cochlear implant. They're all offended they chose not to be deaf and it has nothing to do with them. Unreal.
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>>44339468
Except these are non-deaf people claiming deafness to harass actually deaf people.

It's so weird.

But it's kinda funny because there are actually people who go like "nooooo our gay spaces are drying up because we as gays are too broadly accepted into wider society so we don't need to self-segregate anymore!!!"
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>>44338665
So what if you want the woman social role instead of the gay man one? Are they saying humans are incapable of accomodating that? Also how do you explain native americans' two-spirit people or the kathoey in thailand?

This is such an ironically heteronormative view of things, and all of these gays against groomers people fixate on the idea that hormones are somehow bad, because to them, changing your appearance or inner nature, IS bad. They are insecure deep down, not fighting against homophobia. But rather afraid of others having changeable identities
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>>44339487
I mean whatever they're rich and have nothing else to be angry and waste their money with. I cant imagine being mad there are "less gays" because the "trannies" are transing kids. Like what. Thats just as valid is saying they're putting shit in the water turning the frogs gay.
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>>44338665
Transing the gay away
Transing the gay away

He takes his estrogen
He takes his 'gesterone
He puts his gock cage on

He watches porn that makes him want to 41
He watches porn that makes him goon his sissy clit

Oh, tranny boy
Tranny boy
Tranny boy
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>>44338665
Wait why is not reinforcing gender stereotypes or regressive to say "feminine boys grow up to be gay" but it is to say "feminine boys grow up to be trans"
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>>44339639
It's not even the latter it's just "feminine boys might only be free from dysphoria if allowed to medically transition and that barring them from such is cruel."
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>>44339639
Feminine boys are not gay or trans. They are in a transitional state between child and full man. They shouldn't be anything at all unless they want to. In fact, most gays are masculine men. Yet, the trannies want them to be women.
>>44339625
Nowadays troons don't even take hormones. Ask the average "trans", they are a theyfab with at most 2 months of t (to imitate trans women).
>>44339393
In what universe would a sheep cry over its penis not being inverted? In what universe would a sheep work to afford that surgery? Maybe if they lived in a society where vagina and inverted penis havers had immense social and financial privileges. That's why I want to invert my penis, but sheep don't have to suffer with matriarchy.
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>>44339702
you are a stupid chud who can't read
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what's wrong with being a feminine male?
i think androgynous guys are hot. yes i'm a male too obviously.. that makes me gay/bi or whatever. i never felt any attraction to trans, i like dudes bro. don't try to coerce guys imto trooning, we need to be PEOTECTED from the trans agenda. please, somebody save us.
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gay sheep are raping me
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>>44339725
I am stupid and a chud, but I can read. Trans only exists to the extent it does because foids underestimate their immense privilege and moids (like myself) want to be treated like human beings.
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>>44339740
>"This idiot thinks that trannies aren't treated subhumanly!"
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>>44339747
I do mostly pass. If I got my penis inverted, I could finally be treated like a human being. I am closer to escaping than you
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if i dont become the subject of chads undying love soon i will ngmi
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>>44339751
yeah and I'm sure you trooned out because women are oppressing you and not because you're a gigafaggot with a brain disorder who wants to suck cock
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>>44338665
The only reason this is entertained as a legitimate debate is because people don't want to acknowledge autosexuality because Bl*cnhard is evil or some shiet.
Gay men and androphilic ayygeepees are completely different beasts. True "gay men trooning out" is extremely rare.
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>>44339665
random thought I've been having lately, what if there was a natural variant of male (not random intersex) that just produced more of their own estrogen in their body thus making a more physically feminine male? If this happened all the time I wonder how different things would be. I was the feminine gay boy before hrt and I still am now desu I just look like a lady.. but it would be cool if my body just like.. realized I had a tranny brain or whatever and had some kinda backup organ that produces estrogen for me
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>>44339774
I agree with you because I am gay and I don't even understand what AGP is even let's explain to me several times I still don't get it. I'm feminine and I did transition but I did not do it because of some sexual fantasy
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>>44339785
>describes a common intersex disorder (stfu interanon don't sperg out it's the best way to put this)
>"not random intersex"
This is called excess aromatase and I fucking have it it just makes your ribs weird and gives you gyno

It would be cool if our bodies weren't inherently broken but unfortunately they are :(
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>>44339795
AGP in most trannies is honestly just a maladaptive outcome of untreated gender dysphoria
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>>44339813
I used to unironically subscribe to Blanchard's typology and this is probably the most likely explanation. That and human sexuality is fucking weird especially when you're trans.
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>>44339774
I did. Maybe I am only gay because of trauma and actually "bisexual", but I did nonetheless live as a gay boy before trooning out.
>>44339771
I had sex with men before and after trooning. I just wanted the privileges of being a women. I am "faketrans", with no dysphoria or reverse dysphoria.
>>44339733
Are you a sheep?
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>>44339813
I have no idea how you get it, what it feels like or what it does
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>>44339795
what is there not to understand? its just having your feminine gender identity validated. are you agender?
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>>44339796
reality is often disappointing and I don't intend to be mean to intersex people, I was just thinking if we lived in a more fantastical world where our bodies made sense

I had a trans friend who was also intersex and she would get bullied for it when she was younger but hey it probably helped in her case cuz she looked great last time I saw her

I wish all the best for you anon
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>>44339835
I'm not denying it I just don't understand it I really don't get horny very much and when I do it certainly not pornography because that isn't anything but boring to me
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>>44339832
if you like being feminine thats agp. hsts dont like being feminine, they just do it because they dont like gay men so they try to attract bi men who like femininity.
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>>44339860
I'm probably even more screwed than that because I actually would prefer being a gay man. I like masculine looking guys I just don't fit in with them
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>>44339860
this is retarded btw stop buying into blanchard's retardation
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>>44339870
yes im the same way.
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>>44339880
i dont buy into it im just explaining it. if it sounds retarded then i think i succeeded and that makes me happy because it is retarded and should sound retarded
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>>44339881
Did you try to adjust to being gay?
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>>44339889
oh in that case bravo you won /tttt/
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>>44339846
Aromatase excess doesn't significantly help but still causes you to get bullied for it

>>44339832
If you're androphilic, shame from being a male androphile and finding a way out by picturing yourself as a woman and then classically conditioning an arousal response from that

If you're gynephilic it's just the same as gynephilic cissex women probably idk

>>44339826
You were oppressed for being a faggot not for being a man

>>44339825
His typology becomes immensely silly when you realize that Blanchard is just kind of an idiot who didn't even believe male bisexuals actually existed
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>>44339902
All I can say is I'm attracted to masculine men but I'm afraid of them. I wouldn't want to be with a man who would think I was another man and challenged me
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>>44339870
Then you get weird situations where you have people who would rather be a masculine man or a feminine woman under different circumstances and then realize it's all kind of bullshit?

Like what do you do when you get people with both AGP and AAP? Plenty of AAPcopers out there. Engaging in AAP is a pretty common repping mechanism.
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>>44339918
yes and this is based and holy
so tired of being a man around men when I could be this faggot thing and have them acknowledge that I don't actually like competing with them and just like being around them
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>>44339923
I don't really relate to those words AGP and AAP. Having no experience with either of them I find them to be alien and somewhat unrealistic
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>>44339895
NTA but yes I did try being gay for a while and tried being with girls, the dissociation just got worse over time after my late teens and it eventually was brought up by my friend how often during those times I would talk about how I'd be cool with features of the opposite sex and that's when I realized I was sooo stupid for not catching on

Spiritually yes, I'm an effeminate gay boy, I wish I could've just been one, but my mind became increasingly numb without hrt so there was no avoiding it. A lot of people just see me as a pretty girl now but my closer friends understand that I feel I'm just gay who happened to be trans.
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>>44339895
yes
>>44339899
ty (人•͈ᴗ•͈)
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>>44339937
Do you not find the idea of being anything kind of hot? What do you picture yourself as?

Like the idea of not having any kind of idealized image of self is weird to me.
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>>44339934
boys made it clear to me in 8th grade that I was not part of their sex. They beat me up made fun of me and the Girls tease me until I end up in the hospital. From then on I've never seen myself as a male
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>>44339918
>>44339934
so relatable
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>>44339941
I never paid any attention to girls because once they went to puberty I realized I wasn't attracted to them and they knew before me that I was gay. Girls were the first to tell me on this guy
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>>44339951
I really don't think I find anything very hot except the idea of a really masculine man loving me in a passionate way which is strictly a mental fantasy for me it never happens in real life. I've had a few experiences with gay men and I've never had any sexual experiences with women and don't want to
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>>44339953
I had the inverse journey where after 9th grade, I didn't see survival in being this third gender faggot thing because of how often I was assaulted and trying to recover from a suicide attempt that I pushed myself to masculinize as much as possible because non-competition meant death back then.

Different environmental pressures shape people differently.
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>>44339953
I got bullied but I was also likable enough that some others offered me support but they always asked why I didn't defend myself
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>>44339976
You don't have an image of yourself in your mind, ever?

You don't have a goal of improving your body just for self satisfaction reasons (same reason why a lot of people exercise btw)?

No desire to look good for any reason other than securing a mate?
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>>44339996
All the kids through High School knew I was the class to see and left me alone. I think the teachers told them to leave me alone because I had a nervous breakdown. I never had any sexual experiences until I was out of school and then very few with gay men>>44339996
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>>44340003
I can't fight back that's one thing I just can't manage to do I don't understand it but I'm just afraid of aggressive males. Once they go through puberty they got so damn big and so scary. It's like I was obsessed with it and I'm wondering if I was attracted to it or repulsed by it. Meanwhile girls notice I never noticed anything about them so they just thought I was homosexual which I am
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>>44340011
I grew up in a private Christian school that did everything it could to try and groom people out of being faggots so rather than protecting me the administration blamed me for the fact that I would get assaulted despite the fact that it got so bad at some points that I just didn't go to school
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>>44340010
No I really don't I have very little sexual feeling mostly romantic feelings about dreams of being rescued by masculine men so like an old children's fairy tale
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>>44340036
I'm not even talking about sexuality, but who are (You) when the masculine man rescues you? Are you a princess? A page boy?
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>>44340034
I really can't relate to your experience because after I had my bad experience in eighth grade where I was literally a hospitalized for a nervous breakdown after boys had tortured me. All through high school I was just ignored by all the popular kids and the low life bullies were told to leave me alone and they did because I just wasn't worth the hassle because I've been never fight back I just run and cry to the teachers
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>>44340044
I don't really notice that part of it I really can't say. I'd like to say I was the princess but I don't really fantasize that way where I picture me
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>>44340050
that situation never really manifested so it just became a matter of survival
learned very early on that I couldn't trust basically anyone or even myself because of how poorly even the people I was supposed to trust treated anyone who seemed even a little gay
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>>44340026
yep same i could never imagine fighting and people told me i was like the one other boy in the school who was out as gay
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>>44339967
I'm technically bi to be fair, but I liked boys first and kinda reverted to that being my main interest after transitioning... anything too intimate with a cis girl wouldn't be that fun now

girls would tell me I was effeminate or wanted to dress me up tho
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>>44340064
When you read stories that make your heart flutter, are they straight or gay?
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>>44340083
Girls never wanted anything to do with me except when we were in elementary school. After that they completely ignored me like I didn't even exist. I only thought about boys particularly the handsome boys who I was attracted to but I never expressed it because I know they beat me up so I just kept it to myself
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>>44340088
I don't really read stories I just use my imagination usually it's a boy from school who's either really a jock or one of the tougher boys
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>>44340081
I'm probably more greater than anything else but I do think I would be happier if I were born a girl
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>>44338665
>How can you tell if a boy is feminine if he dresses like a normal boy?
People clocked me as gay before I knew what that meant. Why not ask cishets how they can tell?
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>>44340099
You don't ever have your heart flutter when reading or watching media? Like this isn't in a sexual context either just like, random stuff that may or may not have romance.
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>>44340115
No I don't believe so the only time I've ever felt really sexual was when I fantasize about boys from school
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>>44340109
same here, I was even asked if I liked girls at a young age by this teenager I hung out with when I showed like no reaction to a burger king ad with a sexy woman in it
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>>44340034
sad i also skipped school because of it and it ruined my life
>>44340044
i think im enby. i imagine myself as something in between. im gay for liking him but hes not gay for liking me. but if i liked girls i would be straight and they would be gay instead. i knew from early on only bi girls were attracted to me. guys would stare at me starting at 10 and it messed me up too because i knew they were predators and made me scared and validated my familys homophobia . sometimes women would tell me that there were creepy men watching me and to go back to my parents. this did more for internalizing homophobia than anything else to me and how could i be like others who hate women when they were the ones there to protect me. i hated myself for liking men because they wanted to rape me and a guy tried to get me to let him abduct me and i panicked and looked around for someone to save me and no one did, but he let me go, secretly i liked the attention but i beat myself up for that and feeling like i let it happen
>>44340080
ya this is sad but its true its why were not only gnc but non conforming in many other ways in life too.
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>>44340194
sounds similar to me
I am gay for liking men but they're not necessarily gay for liking me
Pined a lot for guys when I finally felt safe enough to be androphilic without hurting myself over it
But by that point felt too disgusting and unworthy of love from men
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>>44340233
Why couldn't you be gay without estrogen? Is your homophobia that strong?
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>>44339639
Because latter implies that males shouldn’t be feminine and be transitioned if they are so their gender expression is re-aligned with the sex cisheteronormativity connects with it.
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>>44340246
Because I didn't want to be forced to top, because I had a phantom vagina since even before I knew what a vagina was, and because I genuinely hated my body in a visceral, uncontrollable way that got worse and worse as I grew up.
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>>44339902
>didn't even believe male bisexuals actually existed

they don’t though
being agp isn’t bisexuality.
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>>44340325
What exactly is AGP?
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>>44340233
same
this is the only place where others have the same life experiences growing up and inner feelings about it it. it helps to know there are others and its not our fault
>>44340246
i did but i didnt feel like a man so it felt wrong. i think they could tell anyway but it still felt like a secret. when i stopped identifying as a man it felt better, more honest less deceptive and boxed in
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>>44340335
?
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>>44340383
I'm asking
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>>44340309
That's fair, but at the same time. I had plenty of gay sex between 14-18 before trooning, I was never expected to top. Maybe you have some type of BDD rather than gender dysphoria.
>>44340346
>i think they could tell anyway but it still felt like a secret. when i stopped identifying as a man it felt better, more honest less deceptive and boxed in
It feels better for me to have sex now too, but in a heteronormative way that I haven't been able to get rid of my internal homophobic thoughts. I don't think I am a women, but a pretender pretending to pretend to be trans.
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>>44339902
>didn't even believe male bisexuals actually existed
One of reasons I bought into it actually, I thought it explained my bisexuality along with my gender dysphoria pretty well, now the whole thing just seems kind of silly.
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>>44340428
But they're specific exclusively gay men have gender dysphoria?
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>>44340439
I don't believe they exist either I think bisexuals are uncommitted homosexuals
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>>44340428
I grew up in an environment where I was made to believe my androphilia was literally me being tortured by demons so when I imagined being railed by a man when I was 12 and first started experiencing sexual thoughts I prayed and cried to not be gay
Sooooooo
That kind of changes the experience growing up
Never actually got to be a bottom as a teen and got moided after that
But you're also a massive idiot if you think having phantom genitalia syndrome before you even knew about different genitals is somehow just BDD
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>>44340501
From my perspective it's almost like you grew up in another century. I never believed in any kind of religion I understand it God and Jesus and all that but I never really took it seriously I don't see anyone can in this modern age
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>>44340527
this is what living in a private Christian school does where you have Bible class every day with weekly in-school church + regular church + nearly every authority figure in your life is working hard to keep you from being gay by any means necessary
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>>44339665
>feminine boys might only be free from dysphoria
Being feminine doesn't mean you're dysphoric, groomer.
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>>44340549
Wow I think I get it so this is what causes transgender people because they can't come out gay and they are abused in childhood by religious fanatics
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>>44340527
there are people doing it to themselves willingly, repping as polchuds
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>>44340571
Not exactly. A regular gay boy told this just ends up either moving away to college or becomes a lifelong Republican.

Trannies also have innate incentives pushing them to transition. Gender dysphoria is absolutely real and so is being bottom brained etc.
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>>44340571
um no there are a million people like that who dont turn out trans and a million trans people who didnt go through that.
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>>44340565
>might
retard
>>44340571
except I had genital dysphoria even before that and male puberty made me suicidal
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>>44340590
It sure sounds like the difference to me. Why can't I adjust you just being a normal day boy and I have to go through all the misery of this transgender crap? I think it's cuz I had too much child abuse not by my parents but abusive peer
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>>44340462
It depends honestly on sex characteristics and personality. But woman tend to not have sex characteristics or personalities I like.
>>44340571
I don't think so. My theory is that FtMs (as women) were allowed to express themselves much more than men in childhood and because of feminism told that men have imaginary privilege. It's also fueled by their need for victimization (as females)
Conversely, MtFs (as men) weren't allowed to express themselves and told that the only way they could is if they were a woman. Because of feminism, they wanted to gain female privileges. MtFs are also fueled by escaping victimization (as males).
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>>44340584
I think I could have been a regular gay boy, if I hadn't been abused
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>>44340607
Turned out having characteristics you don't like because you're homosexual like me you just have a half about thinking you shouldn't be homosexual and be better to be a woman to be a homosexual which is the product of a child abuse
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>>44340607
except the path to less victimization was to deliberately masculinize myself and that made me feel miserable and incomplete
I did acting for years and got it to the point that people stopped assuming I was gay by the time I went to college even if I was crushing on guys HARD
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>>44340633
>less victimization was to deliberately masculinize myself

This is your own personal experience. I believe if you were less abused you would not have gone through such drastic measures.
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>>44338665
>there's less and less fresh twinks every year for me to take advantage of so I'm blaming it on trannies
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>>44340663
It worked enough to get people off of my back. Again, Christian school. Pressures were different. As long as they could pretend I wasn't an androphile things got better even if I dressed like a pooner when forced into a button down shirt.
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>>44339795
It's a little bit of a mischaracterization/reductive to say that it is done "because of a sexual fantasy," the reason is gender dysphoria, AGPs just happen to have a sexuality that is only possible to realize while having a woman's body, also.

>>44339813
If this were true every trans woman who transitioned would no longer be AGP afterwards, and that's not the case.


>>44339826
I said "rare," not "unheard of."
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>>44339751
I knew it was you!
>>44340607
Ah yes it's always the feminists and never the men berating other men for "acting gay" or being "excessively" feminine.
>>44340663
I made it less than three years from my first dose of estrogen to being SA'd badly enough to be prescribed PEP to make sure I didn't get AIDS from it.
But yeah sure muh matriarchy.
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>>44340633
I guess. I forgot I grew up in a different time period and place then you. I am only 21 right now. I live and grew up in a world where men have basically zero privileges (negative compared to women). Where women make up >50% of college enrollment and still get exclusive grants and scholarships to support them. Where men have a gender bias in education against them causing them to be more likely to fail. Where men (including myself) are more likely to be unemployed because women have preferential hiring through DEI (~90% DEI beneficiaries are women). Where women are allowed to wear whatever they want, but I would be socially ostracized if I didn't troon out. Where women are openly violently homophobic and violently misandrist, where courts favor women legally the majority of the time.
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>>44340730
Everything you're saying here I received in college as a woman, but I transitioned before I went to college.
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>>44340730
See, I lived through a lot of this too. I didn't have my dad for years because his second wife dragged him through court with false allegations. I know that struggle pretty intimately.

The Christian school was also really permissive with attire for women. Girls had more rules targeted at them, sure, but they were "You can't do XYZ." Boys, instead, could *only* wear very specific clothing. A girl could wear a boy's outfit but not vice versa.

Still, outside of strict rules, things still favored boys. Our cheerleading team went to nationals and did well and barely got an announcement. Meanwhile the football team gets multiple mediocre pep rallies and a brand new dedicated athletics field.
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>>44340714
>I knew it was you!
I am not who you think I am. I am larping and needed a new name. Thank you for giving me that one. I would have chose something more subtle.
>men berating other men for "acting gay" or being "excessively" feminine.
This does happen, but only for social approval among women. Even being around other men is competitive and I opted out.
>44340663
Is not me, only I talk about matriarchy/gynocracy.
>But yeah sure muh matriarchy.
Yes, don't you see how we live in a society where women spend less time for the same crime and have lower conviction rates for the same level of evidence. Where women need to be "tried as men" for any semblance of justice.
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>>44340730
>Where women make up >50% of college enrollment and still get exclusive grants and scholarships to support them.
Educational DEI exists for men. Women have better grades in Most Domains and so would naturally represent more college enrollment--especially when the new narrative is "college is a waste of time and for gay libtard trannies and women," anyway. But admissions forcibly accepts men who don't do as well as women do, because no man (and a lot of women) wouldn't want to attend a college of only women (or they'd just enroll in one), they want men around too.
>Where men have a gender bias in education against them causing them to be more likely to fail
This isn't true. What "bias" exists is negligible and would only lead to less-than-letter-grade differences. Many instructors, especially at the collegiate level, grade with submissions anonymized or without looking at the name.
The "real reason" men are more likely to fail is because men as a sex have more variability than women do. Women are OK at absolute worst, whereas almost all kids with behavioral issues, major learning disabilities, low IQ are men (conversely the best students and the most gifted are also men).
Tyrone and Cletus interrupting class are going to get worse grades than Emily and Jane who can sit still and do what they're asked.
You are right about the rest.
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>>44340801
>Educational DEI exists for men. Women have better grades in Most Domains and so would naturally represent more college enrollment--especially when the new narrative is "college is a waste of time and for gay libtard trannies and women," anyway.
it's not quite that simple. the decisions to make grades more important than standardized test scores and to make standardized tests more susceptible to preparation favor women over men. girls get better grades in typical american high schools than boys do, because the subject matter is all so easy that grades are almost entirely a measure of conscientiousness and how much teachers like students. differences in ability don't get captured except at the low end, which as you said is mostly boys.
"DEI for men" comes in (especially at mid-tier schools, which can't attract elite male students) as an attempt to counter the effects of this decision, because an even split is the most attractive stable state to most students and parents.
if you look at a place like caltech that is strongly appealing to elite male students and that needs to differentiate between students at the high end (so can't just use grades), they go strongly out of their way to get their gender ratio as close to even as possible by letting in a greater percentage of women applicants.
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>>44340969
Well this isn't a flattering post because you clearly didn't read my post entirely, because I acknowledged that the highest achievers are men, which implied most of what you said there.
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>>44340785
>I am larping
Well yes. Larping your whole dick clean off.
>only for social approval among women
Which is why they do it even when no women are around.
>crimes
While this is true sometimes (see also: teacher rape) it's also true my assailant will never face justice. Such crimes are rarely charged.
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>>44340990
>because I acknowledged that the highest achievers are men
i know. i took that as a starting point to explain factors your post didn't go into.
>which implied most of what you said there.
i think it was worth fleshing out the implications, because the reality that admin policies favor different genders in different segments of the education market was not well-captured by either your post or the post you were replying to.
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>>44341303
Honestly, no one should have to transition. If there weren't so many restrictions on the male sex, I wouldn't have trooned out. Besides maybe the axe wound/inverted penis which is convenient for sex. Trans = attention seeking.
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>>44342806
I agree under different circumstances I would probably be a gay man, however I am quite certain I would never like women sexually. I believe that homosexuality is ingrained in our brains from birth. I don't know about being transgender?
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>>44338665
>nooooooo only being a faggot is innate! being a tranny isn't because reasons!
bro do you think maybe the reason they grow up gay is because none of this shit has anything to do with genetics?
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>>44342845
I agree being gay is innate. People choose to transition but they do not choose to be gay
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>>44342881
>source: my ass
also free will is an indefensible concept
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who the fuck makes these threads
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>>44342897
I don't really believe in a concept to free will.
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>>44342905
me
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>>44342806
>Trans = attention seeking.
Yeah you do that a lot too.

Transition for intrinsic reasons is fine. Transition for extrinsic reasons should be discourage, and the sources of the pressure addressed. To the extent that it ever exists.
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>>44343338
nobody transitions for internal reasons
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>>44343338
I attention post because I get attention when I do. 90% of the time, I am anon posting anyways. You just happen to see the other 10%.
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>>44343528
have some attention
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>>44338665
What exactly is wrong with transing the gay away? As long as you make her pretty and keep her cock.
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>>44347462
because trans people would rather be gay but feel ashamed to be who they really are
female bodies are more allowed to be sexualized, and transgenderism enforces this system that feminine men cannot be sexualized unless they aim to dress and appear as much like women as possible

also, you post anglefraud + filters
none of these dudes look anything like their pictures irl
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>>44343473
Ok Dr. Blanchard
>>44343528
It's still attention as long as you get your (You)
>>44347525
The vast majority of gay men do not transition.



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