>>44342730
this is why you go stealth

imagine dating heteros. they're all subhuman retards.

>>44342730
I feel like this raises the question of if he’d have been ok with a pre op trans woman.

i would suffer if i passed bc i wouldn't be able to have sex with gay men

>>44342742
guaranteed you're disturbingly ugly

>>44342776
i'm kinda popular with certain subsets of women. it's unfortunate they're subhuman retards.

>>44342742
how dare he give her a shot and be honest that it wasn't going to work

>>44342834
the problem is that he had a mental breakdown over the idea of his straight card being revoked. it's pathetic and embarrassing, and shows just how shallow and performative heterosexuality is. these 'people' simply aren't capable of love, they're only capable of performing roles given to them by society. literal npcs.

>>44342878
to be fair there's a decent chance she would have done the same if he confessed that he was bi

>>44342742
fucking androphilia like why do I have to be bottom dysphoric too

>>44342730
guess that srsussy not grippy

>>44342730
Post-op is the operative word here.

If he kept his dick they would have been pair.

>>44342730
what race is this

>>44343039
If she just topped him like 1 in 10 times they had sex they would have gotten married and been together for 30 years.

>>44342742
this. if i passed i would be in a based no srs st4t marriage

>>44343066
your average brownoid

>>44342730
Sorry but no straight man is going to choose a post-op trans woman. Might as well choose a cis woman.

>>44343122
>"what? a VAGINA!? i may as well fuck a woman!"

bottom chaser propaganda thread

>>44343122
that's because men largely are incapable of love

>>44343122
depends on the srsussy

>>44343075
I can't disagree

>>44343158
that's the whole thing, it is NOT a vagine by any means
A real penis is less scary for a hetero

>>44343158
You know he meant an actual vagina and an actual woman

>>44342730
NEVER DISCLOSE

NEVER DISCLOSE

You fucking STUPID cunts. If someone asks, say no, im not trans. Deny it. Say no. If they insist, walk away. People are programmed to harm you, just because you are trans.

Do not let people harm you

>>44342738
>>44343267
>who cares about being objectively honest with the person I’m suppose to love, my being happy and not being sad is far more important

>>44343122
I hope cancer chooses you

>>44343254
>A real penis is less scary for a hetero
so you can put it in your ass?

>>44343280
what if I want a gay guy tho

>>44343281
No, you're not listening, you dumb, condescending cunt.

We live in times where trans people can be legally killed. If you tell someone, you risk your life. The life of the absolute worst tranner in earth is worth more than your nosy questions

>>44343295
I wonder if there are gay men who would date a post-op tranny

>>44343300
>trans people can be legally killed
Name one country outside of Africa, Asia, or the middle east where that’s true

>>44343281
If you care about being honestly loved you cant date cisoids. They either fetishise you or hate you or their secretly trans. In some raree cases when their super unpolitical and dont care about the topic exist but youre unlikely to find them.

>>44343295
You think that because a man sticks his dick up another mans arse that makes him less likely to harm and potentially kill you?

Dont risk your life, never disclose

>>44343310
nta but tootsie trade is the only safe trade for trannies. hence t4t

>>44343320
>outside of Africa, Asia, or the middle east
lmao

>>44343320
NEVER DISCLOSE

NEVER NEVER NEVER

The propaganda of the last 10 years has lead masses of people to think you dont deserve to live, just because you are trans. If you tell someone, eventually they WILL harm you. NEVER DISCLOSE

>>44343330
T4t is safe.

Unfortunately im attracted to *spits on the ground*, straight men, so i will lead an asexual life since i dont want to end up in the local papers DISGUSTING PERVERT TRANNY ERADICATED BY HERO MAN, and its some local nutcase with a history or raping and beating women, and the comments online cheer for it and say "what a great guy that was, id buy him a drink", and then someone else says "but he was arrested 20 times for attacking ransom women" and someone else says "thats the past, a tranny is dead so hes alright, let him go!"

>>44343358
why not fuck fem gay tops instead of (lord'vemercy) straight men

>>44343179
this. its pretty subtle bait honestly.

Crazy that guys literally get rejected by thousands of women in their lives but whenever w woman gets rejected by a guy it has to be turned into an entire social media campaign for some reason.

>>44342730
disclosure is detransition. total stealth is the only way to live unless you're willing to belong to the Transbian Underground

>>44343387
The heart wants what the heart wants. I like masculine men. I wish i didnt. So im asexual now

>>44343398
She got rejected because rich passoids live in a bubble. They haven't learnt that most people are evil, and telling bad people you belong to a group its legal to attack and kill will lead to terrible outcomes

>>44343422
Say it louder for those in back, absolute facts. Never disclose

itt: bottom chasers speaking for straight men. trannies saying how you should go stealth in a relationship

>>44343255
>actual
completely unnecessary adjective. a vagina is a birth canal connected to the womb. a woman is a female born with XY chromosomes.

>>44343437
you have sex with your heart? does that mean you coom blüüd like that cannibal corpse song?

>>44343290
I'm saying there's a reason shemale porn is popular with "chicks with a dick" and not "bitches with stitches "

no one likes wounds

>>44343505
you're gay and like cock cooooooooooope

>44343478
More terf garbage sharing religious thinking

>>44343505
Its ok to be a gay man, go and fuck someone who looks like The Rock and leave women alone

>just rape cis men
Trannies btw

>>44343550
>"bro can you believe that dumb bitch said i raped her just bc i lied about my identity to have sex with her"
>"HELP A TRANNY IS RAPING ME BC IT DIDN'T TELL ME IT WAS A TRANNY HELP HELP MOMMMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>44343550
The word rape means nothing now, because of people like you.

>i kissed a tranny, i was raped

And now no one takes actual rape seriously, because its been diluted to mean anything from trafficking kids at gun point to "i find trannys icky"

>>44343567
when has rape ever been taken seriously. i was raped almost daily throughout my childhood and no one ever gave a fuck. nothing ever happened. my reports and talking to the police did nothing. not one time I ever reported anybody who hurt me did they face consequences in any way shape or form. I don't think things have changed in the past 28 years

>>44342878
that is kinda true

i'm cynical and aware of normies being retarded but they still just. end up showing behavior that implies they're literal animal p-zombies made by a very lazy programmer. explains why every marriage is seemingly the equivalent of putting two hungry animals in a cage that's all too small with eachother

>>44343594
>I don't think things have changed in the past 28 years

They havent

:(

>>44342730
>>44342738
>>44342742
You all worry about it cuz you all have it wrong. You go and transition so that you can live anonymously as a woman you do not have a relationships with the men because they're going to find out your transgender and being stealth means No One Ever Knows Your transgender

>>44342730
I wish we knew what it was he couldn't handle

>>44343122
TRVKE NVKEM
I'm a top but would much rather her dick be there flopping around than her expect me to fuck her pathetic excuse for a vagina that smells like feces.
If we wanted vagina, we'd go for real women and not trannies

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>>44342730
What actually gave him the ick after several weeks of dating, though?

>>44343688
>her pathetic excuse for a vagina
What is "pathetic" about it?

>>44343756
Its literally an inverted dick or part of your intestines. Its not a vagina. See I don't mind SRS and would encourage it if it made my theoretical trans partner happy, but I am NOT sticking my dick in that.

>>44343688
>>44343777
sneed

>>44343184
TRVKE!!!!

If every closet gay was killed, what flavour of ice cream would you get

>>44343777
>Its literally an inverted dick or part of your intestines.
It literally isn't though?
>Its not a vagina.
How so?
>but I am NOT sticking my dick in that.
because you prefer tranny penis in your mouth

>>44343777
Because you want to have your own vagina and your jealous of her

>>44342878
I mean, how far did he get?
Did they finally get nude and he's like...

eugh, no fucking thank you

or

did they mess around a few times and he just hung on, barely, until he gave up and realized he dreaded their interactions

>>44342878
>these 'people' simply aren't capable of love, they're only capable of performing roles given to them by society. literal npcs.
The longer you live the more you see how true this is. There's a reason why "I hate my wife" and cheating are some of the most common tropes in normie media...

>>44343158
What possible upsides are there to a transgina? You already lose out on the joystick and transcummies.
That joystick made the whole icky male body proportions worth it!

>>44343281
yes

>>44343184
Why'd you out every afab like that?

>>44344391
>What possible upsides are there to a transgina?
The same as for any other genetalia? It's attached to the person you love?

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>>44343325
>If you care about being honestly loved you cant date cisoids.

>>44344424
>loving a transwoman
Ah, rookie mistake. Some do cling on, though, lovely little bichud romantics...

>>44344262
>How so?
It can’t even self-clean

>>44344452
Wtf is a transwoman? Do you mean trans woman?

>>44344463
What the fuck is a "trans woman", do you mean a transwoman?

>>44344460
Sniiiiiiifffff

Think of the dead inner penis nonkeratinized tissue shedding and sniiifffffffff the mystery bacteria flavors feeeeeding on it

>>44344460
>It can’t even self-clean
Source?

>>44344491
>nonkeratinized
keratinized*

>>44344470
le owned xD

>>44343710
maybe the putrid axe wound gash at her crotch?

If she was non op he would have at least given her a shot I would bet money on it. Not to throw shade on pre ops and post ops but at that point you're competing on very unfair territory with sub par equipment.

>>44344612
Why do you think any of that is even remotely true?

>>44344620
>with sub par equipment.
Okay, fag.

>>44344498
Are you serious

>>44342814
>"i belong in a transbian polycule"
agreed, and the world is far better place for it
>>44342878
why is this random guy who you have never met's personal choice a "problem"?
you are obnoxious as the people who make our transitions their business
>it's pathetic and embarrassing
PEOPLE SAY THIS ABOUT US AS WELL LMAO
>they're only capable of performing roles given to them by society
you aspire to perform a socially designated role too you retard, it's just not the one that you were born into
look at you pretending to be all enlightened and euphoric about it tho

>>44344666
Are you?

Bottom chasers are so fucking mad itt.

What pathetic "people"

>>44344668
NTA, but see >>44344370
This guy was either a pussy who was afraid of being viewed as a fag or he really is a faggot bottomchaser.

>>44344470
kill yourself

>>44344463
wtf is a trans woman? do you mean woman who was born with the condition of sex incongruence?

>>44344681
Very.

>>44344654
>preferring real vaginas makes you a fag
I get that you're hurting but neovag is objectively inferior to both pussy and girl dick. Doesn't mean you're unlovable by any means but judging by your reply your personality might do that instead.

>>44344778
Okay?
Why do you make stuff up about tranny bodies then?

>>44344773
Why are you even replying to my posts?

>>44344837
>neovag is objectively inferior
Why?
>girl dick
You're either a fag or a transbian, lol.

>>44342730
I mean she looks like a cissoid I would date her

>>44344841
>make stuff up
Wut. It's not even a hot take that srs vaginas don't self clean

>>44342730
#passoidssuffertoo

>>44344897
It's not a "take"
Some of them do, some of them don't

>>44344857
Because it doesn't look hot at all, it looks very wrong. And that's all but 1 I've seen, the "good" ones, not the botches. Actual pussy is usually inviting, you want to eat, you want to fuck, just looking at it and smelling it gets you pumped. It's not the most important thing in a woman but it's something you have to take into account if you're going to be with a trans woman, especially if you are intense and like to dine.
>you're X or Y
Neither, I just thought it was more polite to call it that

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>>44344857
>You're either a fag or a transbian, lol.

>>44344963
>Because it doesn't look hot at all, it looks very wrong
Do you think every tranny vagina looks the same? Do you think every last one of them looks bad? Do you think cissoid vaginas look universally good? What's the objective difference in appearance in your mind?
>Actual pussy is usually inviting, you want to eat, you want to fuck, just looking at it and smelling it gets you pumped.
Why does any of this not apply to tranny vaginas too?

>>44342730
She's post op. Only the most deranged male will accept her now.

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>>44343325
>>44343358
>>44344448
straight trannies who are unwilling to date straight men should become celibate nuns

>>44345059
>Only the most deranged male will accept her now.
Why?

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>>44344391
>>44344452
>>44344470
these are the people the pick me freaks of this board want to appeal to, lol

>>44342742
so like 90% of the population

>>44343122
ya at least he'd have the option for kids

>>44342730
i feel so bad for her :((( why is life so hard for strannies. she’s literally beautiful

>>44345107
Imagine boiling down a lifelong partner to nothing more than your personal breeding cow...

>>44345000
I've seen one trans vagina that looked kind of acceptable, and a lot that looked bad, only ever online. I have seen only good real pussies in person but you know there is blue waffle or whatever extreme cases. Fortunately I've never had to face down something like that irl.

My guess is it's because the surgeons are no good at making the lips, mound and hood look right, or there's just not enough material of the right kind to make it work.

>>44342878
>I love this person, how bad can post op pussy really be?
>Oh god...
Dude he had a mental breakdown trying to have sex with something he couldn't find sexually attractive at all. Unfortunately relationships involve sex, and you can't force someone to find certain things sexually attractive even if their personalities click.

>>44345175
>Dude he had a mental breakdown trying to have sex with something he couldn't find sexually attractive at all.
What are you basing that claim off of? The leddit poster didn't give any details at all, lol. Maybe he heard her untrained voice for the first time?
Also, who TF has sex after just two weeks of dating?

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>>44343122
>>44345078
i think this thread epitomizes a fundamental delusion within this community with regards to trans acceptance and the game of "optics". at the end of the day, the very act of transition is an act against the person's bodily integrity, and hence it conflicts with basic ethical assumptions inherent both to christian and bourgeois institutions with regards to how bodies should be managed. we saw this as well with the diy orchi person who garnered a lot of disgust online as well even though they otherwise werent "weird", they were not manifestly some sort of "agp" or rapist. because at the end of the day, if you want srs or even an orchiectomy, the procedure alone offends the fundamental sensitivity of even otherwise accepting individuals. there is an unspeakable, often glossed over gap between the perceptions of transsexuals with regards to the existential gravity and necessity of physical transition, and the perception of cissexuals, who do not understand it and are often physically repulsed by it. but hitherto this lacuna has not been brought into focus, instead we have merely attributed it to understandings of "gender", superficial cultural parochialisms, and the behaviours of individuals within our community coming to represent us

ultimately, there is no "optics" that can save you because being trans is itself an optics nuke. literally all you need to do is show cis people live footage of an srs operation and it fill a lot of them with visceral disgust. maybe this story might be educational for some of you or maybe not. anyways join my cult
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.html

>>44345195
What are you basing the claim off that he bailed out because he felt his 'straightness' was in jeopardy (assuming you're who I'm replying to)?
He heard her voice because they were friends for several years. The only thing he didn't see was her body, and 'thought he could handle it' and gave it a shot and realized he couldn't, and you can't choose what you find attractive. I'm making assumptions same as you because we're gossipping about some random stupid reddit post because that's all this board is good for.
>who TF has sex after just two weeks of dating?
Most people? Idk what a relationship looks like to you, but most relationships are sexual, especially at the start.

>>44345141
Why even bother replying if you're not going to answer any of the questions?

>>44345228
>showing normies footage of [xyz] surgery makes them feel gross
Waow, truly insightful stuff anon.

>>44345265
I gave you enough, stop busting my balls

>>44345264
Her post literally says "due to being a post-op trans woman", not "because he thought my vagina was ugly"
The fag wanted tranny dick and bailed when he learned he wasn't getting it.

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>>44345292
you are acting smug but am i wrong? even in this thread you have chud chasers talking about "axe wounds" and there was a period of time when it was more common for people to circulate botched srs operations in order to elicit an emotional response. many christian conservatives often describe the operation of abortion in visceral detail as a means of eliciting disgust and promoting their message as well. the very act itself is disgusting. you dont need rapebians, you dont need hulking hons in women's sports. all someone that wants to argue against physical transition has to do is call srs and other surgeries mutilation and show someone performing a diy orchi

but for some reason, the people on this board dont see this very very obvious error. why is that? could that not itself be a fundamental oversight and gap in communication as well as self-awareness? and why for that matter should normies feel that surgery is disgusting to begin with? such a response is not wholly culturally universal, as the greeks would have ritual castrations in celebrations, a practice which would evoke sheer horror in the modern west. and there are of course cultures that even practice ritual cannibalism. so it is not at all a straightforward observation, but rather a matter of weltanschauung

>>44345387
>this very very obvious error
You think people getting SRS is an error?

>>44345334
Oh you're just trolling lol
Here's your (you)

>>44345410
i think the obsession with optics is an error as it overlooks the presence of a more fundamental contradiction that can certainly be taken advantage of by parties that would want to eliminate us from public life

>>44345436
Why blame people who've had SRS then?
"Just don't get SRS so we can make the chuds happy" is never going to fly with 99% of trannies even the non-ops.

>>44345387
all surgeries are disgusting to watch you retard, optics nukes are much worse than our necessary surgery existing.
>even chasers don't like neovaginas!
no shit? they're chasers, they're gay men who are too pussy to come out as gay to their family.

>>44342730
All the seething mtfs ITT better be willing to date a pooner with a frankenpenis or else youre just entitled hypocrites

>>44345561
Pooners with a frankenpenis are one in a million; ones who are straight too are one in 100 million.

>>44345576
Even worse they will say they're straight and then will leave you for a man

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>>44345468
i am not blaming anyone. i do not think trans people having srs is a problem. it is inevitable that when push comes to shove, if conservatives really start to zone in on the mutilation narrative, it will be a point that we as a community can not and will not compromise on. this will bring to the surface a fundamental point of conflict that transcends an individual autistic tranny being weird or not. at that point we will be forced to accept the necessity of either falling back in line with democrats, or alternatively building ourselves a form of collective self-determination, an alternative source of authority with which we can pursue our common goals. again, the very fact of trans existence is itself THE optics nuke of all optics nukes. that is what no one on this board understands. it is not a dissolvable problem in the foreseeable future, it can only be repressed

>>44345561
solidarity with frankenpenis havers

>>44345468
>bring a trans woman home
>family totally doesn't think you're gay
You are coping. Dating trans women is social suicide perhaps worse than dating a man. We risk it because we like trans women.

>>44345610
Don't really see what point you're trying to make then? Conservatards hate trans people inherently? Waow insightful stuff.

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>>44345618
>perhaps worse than dating a man
NTA, but why?
You all come across as massive pussies, especially to any tranny that ever had to come out to our own parents.

That srsussy didn't pass

>>44345632
I don't know people just have a chip on their shoulder about hating trans women, I don't possess this chip and don't understand it. If she is a woman to me it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks because they don't have to date her. Gay people get treated better than chasers.
>massive pussy
you don't know me at all

>>44342730
the ultimate blackpill for us trannies is the fact that no matter how much you change or how well you pass or how far you've come, the fact that you're a tranny at all will make 95% of cishet men not want to date you and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>44345670
The whitepill for us trannies is realizing that those 95% of people would've been bad partners anyways if their love is entirely conditional on being cis.

>>44345661
>you don't know me at all
I don't care to know you. If your big hangup with dating a tranny is "bawww my pwarents might call me gaayyy" then yeah you come across as a massive pussy.

>>44345621
>Don't really see what point you're trying to make then
do you not understand what board you are on? for years there has been a (at some point even very much dominant) strand of people who love to call for the need of us to police other trannies and how the reason for rising transphobia is autistic trannies becoming "optics nukes" and that trans acceptance is plummeting due to this. this has been a narrative people have pushed for years. here in this thread however, we see the ultimate refutation of this obsession, the simple truth that people who want to propagandize against transsexuals never needed to see "IT'S MA'AM" to be convinced to be disgusted by trannies. such phenomena are just convenient memetic vehicles
>Conservatards hate trans people inherently
practically everyone has this bias against trans people inherently. look at the op. the guy who is the friends with this poor girl knew that she was trans and they were trans for years, and she is certainly passing, attractive and likely well-adjusted. yet nevertheless, despite these circumstances, the neovagina was too much for him. think about that for a second. we even see this aversion to srs amongst progressives at large, with for instance subversivists pushing narratives about how you shouldnt need to feel the need to have physical changes to transition (often with the implication or overt accusation that transsexuals are reinforcing parochial notions of gender and the like). ive seen books on cultures like the hijra that try to celebrate their gender non-conforming behaviours, but when it came to their castration practices, they could not help but treat it as backward. despite this being something most people are averse this is something we as a community will (rightfully) never compromise on. and as i just said we may be forced to eventually accept a new form of collective existence amongst ourselves in order to achieve common goals

I'm a straight man who has only ever fucked cis women and I crave trannies. Could I be with one long term? Idk. What I do know is gock > srussy
No I will never bottom, but it's hot thinking me fucking her will make her hard or that at least I will see it helicopter as a reminder I own her. Srussy does not offer that.

>>44342878
>he has to perform a lgbt role or he's a npc!!!!
Btw you wouldnt mind a man dating you can not calling himself gay if you thought you were a woman

>>44345707
You need to follow the post chain. My point was that dating a trans woman is not straight in most peoples eyes, so using them as a proxy for men is retarded and I doubt it happens. I personally don't care, gay or not. I easily eat up the risk because you're fucking beautiful, usually inside too.

>>44344963
What? No. That doesn't even make sense. The only vagina that self cleans is a biological female vagina.

>>44345711
Oh ok, so you're insecure because you relate to the opticsnuke autisthons and wish the ire wasn't focused on them?
Not sure why you're attacking SRSoids though since it's not like we can make genital dysphoria go away by having a little more social awareness.

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>>44345599
>Using the censored version

>>44345715
>unironically saying "gock"
You will be on E in less than 2 years and will be a transbian polycule n

>>44345777
will be in a transbian polycule in 4*

>>44345777
everyone on here says it dumbass groomer

>>44345749
What is a "biological" vagina? Do you think tranny vaginas are made of titanium or something?

>>44344959
the ones that *can* smell like feces though

>>44345765
as i said, i am not attacking them. their problems just represent the truth of what it means to be this trans in this world. neither do i feel any insecurity. to me this is all just a distraction that detracts from what we should actually be doing. it doesnt not seem like you care to actually read the words i am saying and so i do not know why you are even asking me questions

>>44345576
>>44345590
so in other words no? I accept your concession

>>44345809
Ones that use peritoneal lining do not have this issue (and frankly, neither do 99% of colon graft ones either but it's not like you'd care either way)

>>44345308
your galls?

>>44345813
?

>>44345811
>what we should actually be doing
Which is?

>>44345821
No galls, only hairy man balls here.

>>44345818
>but it's not like you'd care either way
you honestly think I wouldn't care about eating out a "girl" and getting a whiff of dookie?

>>44345777
lol do you think I'm some teenager in your discord? I'm a grown ass man that could likely beat the shit out of you

>>44345846
>alternatively building ourselves a form of collective self-determination, an alternative source of authority with which we can pursue our common goals
>and as i just said we may be forced to eventually accept a new form of collective existence amongst ourselves in order to achieve common goals
>https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.html

>>44345852
shave your balls if you want tranny throat jobs

>>44345857
Motherfucker come to TAMPA and I'll knock your teeth out

>>44345853
I know you don't "care" to learn that even colon vaginoplasties rarely have this problem.

>>44345871
I'm not spending a dime on tampons you freak

>>44345830
>mts shouldnt be annoyed by this unless they would be willing to date pooners whove had SRS
>...yeah but those pooners are REALLY RARE AND WOULD LEAVE ME ANYWAY

do you not see the hypocrisy? you just deflected the real issue to avoid admitting that you have the same problem with surgically constructed genitals that the cis guy in OP has.

>>44345858
How do you expect to do that without land of your own and/or rebellion from your old country? Taxation and rule are done at gunpoint even in the "free" west.

>>44345910
You're inferring a lot of shit from like a 10-word post I made, dude. Straight trans men are so rare they might as well be a myth so why even consider them as a MtF unless they ask you first?

>>44345618
yeah I guess if you can only get unpassing trannies lol

>>44345889
>be you
>be cissy
>be all talk
grim

>>44345857
>I'm a grown ass man that could likely beat the shit out of you
Okay Anon boy or whoever u want to be call. Your fucking stupid and childish asf you need to learn when to shut your mouth and that time is now nobody wants to here the unnecessary bulls hit you have to say about how u can knock people out and can do this and that. If you were calling anyone a bitch u should call your self that talk about how she is talking shit over the Internet well guess what so are you. You think your all bad ass but truly your not and i kinda feel sorry for u that u have the need to act like a kid that is 3 years old even 3 years old are more mature than you. So don't be a childish dick and talk shit no body wants to hear it and all u are doing that can hurt anyone is giving us a head ach over all the unnecessary bullshit that come out your damn mouth.

>>44345926
Youre still avoiding the issue
>a hypothetical straight pooner is into you
>he is your perfect man in every way
>he has had SRS

Would you date him yes or no? if the answer is no then you have no place to be upset about a cis man having the exact same standards. If the answer is yes then why did you waffle on about how rare straight pooners are when its not relevant to the point I was making?

>>44345912
cooperatives already exist and federations of cooperatives already exist within western nations. the biggest challenge is pooling enough collective resources to do it ourselves. we could probably do it if we were serious. there are plenty of trannies with high paying jobs in STEM. the zionists managed to start joint stock companies as an initial step towards their goals and things grew from there
>For the tasks envisioned for it, Herzl estimated that the company's capital should be about a billion marks (about £50,000,000 or $200,000,000). In fact, the Zionist Movement – both in Herzl's time and later – could not come anywhere close to such figures. Under Herzl's direction there was created a few years later the Jewish Colonial Trust – indeed located in London and incorporated under British law, but with the modest capital of 250,000 Pounds, about half of one percent of the envisioned Jewish Company. Even so, the "Colonial Trust" and its affiliate, the Anglo Palestine Company, had a key role in the actual implementation of the Zionist Project, and eventually became Bank Leumi, one of Israel's main banks.
and of course what i am suggesting is far more modest than zionism

>>44345934
Sorry we're not all hyperchads

>>44345972
>Would you date him yes or no?
No, because I'm already in a relationship.

>>44342730
Surprise surprise: No identity can fully shield you from pain.

>>44345984
none of you are lol that was the point. just man up and come out to your family already

you guys can't even rationally navigate and resolve your own philosophical and ethical crises and you expect everyone to just be chill about being you trans. of course everyone hates you when you set the standard by hating yourselves you freaky disconcerting bastards.

>>44345990
pretend you weren't for a second you "but i did have breakfast" ass mfer.

>>44345561
I would love to date an ftm guy that's like my dream lol straight ftms are guaranteed straight unlike you penis sucking chasers

>>44345998
>you expect everyone to just be chill about being you trans.
Why should normalfags give a single shit about whether I'm trans or not?

>>44345993
Are you a bot or just a retard? I don't care who sees me with a trans woman. If I like her I like her.

>>44346006
bro at this point after this much dodging we already know the answer

>>44346011
>I don't care who sees me with a trans woman.
Bro you literally said
>bring a trans woman home
>family totally doesn't think you're gay
Like it's some kind of major problem to you.

>>44346010
because their entire world is built around responding to rote pattern recognition with routines trained in over years. when normalfags see trans people act like in this thread, they automatically get kicked into concern mode. surely you can't be this dense.

>>44346011
I get it you're gay, take the drag queen cock outta your mouth and apologize to your parents

>>44345768
i had a feeling something was missing

>>44345990
More deflections. Credit to you I suppose, this level of refusing to admit your real feelings when you know they can hurt someone is very feminine

>>44346007
One of the good ones

>>44346025
It was in reply to >>44345468 claiming that chasers are gay men who are too pussy to come out to their family. I chase because I like trans women. If I liked men, I'd just date them but I don't do that because I am attracted to women instead. Socially, dating a trans woman is less accepted than dating men, people can fight me or shit talk me if they want to try, I am happy to take that risk. Is this simple enough?

>>44346051
Weak. Pathetic.

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>>44345696
i appreciate your optimism anon but i can't help but feel like it's just cope

>>44343290
Because it means you're fucking her in the ass, which every straight guy has been curious about doing to their gf at one point

I don't wanna stick my penis in a wound, I'm not a serial killer

>>44346085
yes those are words used to commonly describe a chaser

>>44346072
>this level of refusing to admit your real feelings when you know they can hurt someone is very feminine
Nah, it's just fun to get guaranteed replies by holding off on answering the question. Though, why are there two anons responding to me now? Lol

>>44346046
>like in this thread>>44346087
Like what?

>>44346087
It's not cope. Most cis couples don't deeply care about each other. Most relationships are performative and done to fulfill societal expectations.

we see you

>>44345658
I fear putting my hand in there
I know how vaginas work and how women will react

but how will a tranny?
what's the surface like?
seems icky
no cervix, no ribbing, no real integration into muscle groups besides pelvic floor...
ew

>>44346127
You didnt really hold off so much as intentionally deflect to avoid admitting you wouldnt date a post-SRS pooner. If you would, please confirm now, otherwise youre just an entitled hypocrite

>>44346138
maybe i'm just autistic but idk what you're asking of me anon

>>44346208
>to avoid admitting you wouldnt date a post-SRS pooner
Sure, whatever satisfies your victim complex dude.

>>44346127
>Though, why are there two anons responding to me now
the lack of self-awareness on this point is just amusing to us

>>44346227
My honhands slipped and replied to your post on accident.

>>44346228
you cant even say that you would hypothetically while fucking anonymous hahahaha

>>44346228
>STILL deflecting and coping after all these posts

I once again accept your concession

>>44345228
Well yeah, to be fair, its basically mutilation. Medical science of the current year simply isn't capable of recreating what nature made cell for cell, and 'looking real' isn't good enough for most people, which is entirely understandable. Our species is hard-wired to feel a visceral reaction to the abnormal, the sick, mutilation, scarification, palpable bodily harm and so on, and srs fits all of those boxes. The old joke is that Jesus ate with the lepers, but that was because he was an exceptionally good sport, not because he or anyone else wanted to.

People can make a conscious choice to ignore the way they feel in the hopes of treating you in a more civilized manner, which is an instance of learned behavior beating out natural behavior, but you probably shouldn't tell people that choosing to be abnormal and ellicit a reaction of disgust and fear from everyone they meet forever is likely to improve their lives. If they were outcast before, this will make it worse, if they were normal before, this will make them outcast. If you want to do it anyway, you do you, just be aware of how you will be treated, and the expectation that the entire human race feel differently to cater to you and your feelings is folly no matter how you slice it. They won't, whether you think they should or not.

>>44346379
>you probably shouldn't tell people that choosing to be abnormal and ellicit a reaction of disgust and fear from everyone they meet forever is likely to improve their lives
i am not doing this. i have arrived at a point where i would rather associate with and organize other trans people than bother with cis people on this topic too much

>>44346379
oh and btw you should stop posting on this board as well if you are just a tourist. if you want trannies to leave people alone you should also leave us alone

>>44345094
yes.

>>44345794
>What is a "biological" vagina?
A cis female vagina. But you already know that, but are deliberately playing stupid.

>>44342730
passoids like this always try to date actual straight men and are always shocked when they get rejected. how fucking dumb can you be honestly.

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>>44342878
>men are so horrifically stigmatized for homosexuality that most won’t even risk it
this is life under matriarchy

>>44345228
why is ur symbol a swastika nona

>>44346446
>if you want trannies to leave people alone you should also leave us alone
In a vacuum that's a fair deal. I'd make that deal. But the problem is all the caveats and getting the rest of the trannies, and on the other side, normies, to follow suit.

The deal would have to be something like no weird tranny shit in public, no under 18 trans, no bathrooms/sports/women's spaces chicanery.

And in return no harassment or hounding of trans. Over 18 transitioning is legal. Basically, you're an adult you can do what you want. If you want to be a "freak" you can be and you'll be left alone to do so, and be in public without any particular reaction. Able to just simply go about your business.

If trans made this deal, I as a trans hater, would defend trans people. A bargain was struck and harassing a trans person is a violation of that deal and uncouth.

>>44346957
That's not leaving trans people alone you dipshit. Leaving us alone is not bothering us in public so long as we don't bother you. Going to the bathroom isn't bothering you, it's literally just peeing.

You people don't know what it means to leave people alone without imposing your will on them, and that's the problem.

>>44342742
based real and true

>>44342776
former straight boy turned AGP seethe
you can tell because they cant process anything in a way that isnt related to their dick.

>>44346992
Most multi-person bathrooms are gender segregated for a reason. Are cis men or women "not being left alone" because of that segregation? No, obviously not. Nobody has a problem with it.

>>44347028
Yeah, and trans women who actually pass get harassed and sexually abused when they use the men's room. God, I remember back when I thought a deal could actually be struck with people like this.

I was so stupid.

>>44347034
>trans women who actually pass
Part of the problem, isn't it? Do we have a team of certified tranny judgers who deny women's bathroom to freak ogres in a dress but give the passoids entry?

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>>44346901
it is a double swastika (i call it a duowheel) meant to symbolize rhythmicity + the union of opposites of two buddhist swastikas representing auspiciousness and destructiveness as well as the manifest and veiled ..

>>44347042
why does that matter to you if they are just there to pee? you know ppl didnt segregate the places where they would piss and shit in the past right?

>>44344391
as a tranner i don't need to make cum
guys can just fuck their into me
>>44344460
mine works fine
>>44344963
literally never had any trouble getting guys to want to fuck me
>>44345228
yet when their genitals have serious disorders they have no trouble demanding doctors do their best at fixing them
>>44346196
we're not going to snap your hand off lol
if you rub it we will feel good

>>44347047
>ppl didnt segregate the places where they would piss and shit in the past right?
Not really true.

>>44342878
If it was performative he wouldn't have given her a shot in the first place.
He was simply authentically disgusted by her.
Also worth noting the irony in you demanding he perform an attraction he doesn't feel to make you feel better.

>>44347042
Nope, not letting myself get lured into trying to strike a deal again. I won't be drawn into this mess.

You know what's a better use of my time? Stardew Valley. That's enough 4chan for today, I'm going to go grow some pretend plants and pretend date a pretend wizard.

>>44343295
larp

>>44342730
That's because nobody really wants srsoids. She couldve found someone if she stayed intact

>>44342878
>heterosexuality is shallow and performative because it makes you not want to be in a gay relationship
kk lmao

>>44347278
truthnvke
trannoids will refuse to accept this, but a trans girl is unique and still has some value on the dating market if she still has her dick
post srs she is just a busted ass discount version of a cis girl with x10 the normal rates of mental illness

>>44346379
>to be fair, its basically mutilation
How?

>>44347765
>still has some value on the dating market
"Fags wanting your penis in their mouth" is not a value trannies consider or care about.

>>44342749
this is what some retards dont get, if someone is ok dating a transgirl they are ok with the pp, it makes it worse if they have bottom surgery because at that point they would have just dated a cisgirl. no matter how good doctors get they cant replicate all the functions of a vagina. it sucks to hear but its truth

>>44347900
If they'd "just date a cis girl" then they could "just date a trans girl" too.
>no matter how good doctors get they cant replicate all the functions of a vagina
Which functions?

>>44343358
Tbh if you get arrested 20 times and never actually charged it's obvious that someone's trying to set you up through nuisance reports.

>>44347921
smelling like vagina and not like colon

>>44347796
Then keep bitching you cant find a man

>>44347999
What's your source on this happening to every tranny vagina? One leddit post?

>>44348013
Then keep bitching you cant have tranny penis in your asshole

>>44343567
Trafficking is less bad than stealthing a straight unironically

>>44348040
Stealthing means taking of a condum secretly, which is a type of rape. I have a feeling you meant something else, but if that's the case then learn what words mean.

>>44348040
Stealthing isn't possible because you can always tell. Stop lying.