>if you took a flamer gay boy at birth and raised him on a remote tropical island where there were no women and only hyper-masculine men, he would not act feminine at all as an adult(most trannies agree with this)>if you took a little trans girl and plopped her on an island with no gender rules or rules, totally equal treatment for men and women, she would still experience dysphoria(most trannies agree with this)really makes the neurons gopewpewpew
>>44344867idk what ur getting at but it makes perfect sense bc femininity is a social thing but dysphoria is in part a body dysmorphia thing
>>44344867If you took a straight cis man with tocd who wishes he was a straight cis woman and put him onto a remote tropical island, he'd still distill his own high proof alcohol out of bananas and coconuts, and make fashion a makeshift needle out of bamboo and any trash that drifted ashore. After which he'd promptly inject said high proof alcohol into his nuts.
>>44344867>if you took a flamer gay boy at birth and raised him on a remote tropical island where there were no women and only hyper-masculine men, he would not act feminine at all as an adultuntrue, he'd get raped by all of them <3
>>44344902is femininity in women a social thing?would women raised on le tropical island with only men act like men and sound like men?>muh tabula rasa>genes do nothing
>>44344867>if you took a flamer gay boy at birth and raised him on a remote tropical island where there were no women and only hyper-masculine men, he would not act feminine at all as an adult>(most trannies agree with this)this is because most trannies are bisexual (flexible but psychologically heterosexual). there were no feminine male rolemodels in my early life, i simply didnt know or really have the ability to internalise typical male social behaviour. instead i latched onto the most resonant thing i could find and adapted it to fit my needs, which was slightly camp british kids TV (think bagpuss).>if you took a little trans girl and plopped her on an island with no gender rules or rules, totally equal treatment for men and women, she would still experience dysphoria>(most trannies agree with this)i disagree, im pro forcemascing AFABs
>>44346873many trannies are only into men
>>44347469and many of those in a meta-attracted capacity
>>44344867>how do we know?some cultures of indigenous people have a third sex like two spirits in native americans. huh.
>>44347737>gay but I change the words
>>44347766bisexuals are not attracted to men in the same way that exclusive homosexuals are
>>44347842my eyes are now a starlink satellite
would i have ended up a bi bottom if i was dropped on an island with all women?
>>44344867the real question is if you took a repper and put him in an island with no women or feminine depictions would his dysphoria go away probably yes because mother nature comforts all
>>44347875>universal gynephilia
I think everyone here is missing the point.Trannies believe that for gays, feminine behavior is learned from women, and not innate, but their own feminine behavior - as evidenced by "gender dysphoria" is innate. It's a double standard.
>>44347875It'd be interesting to see the ZERO trannies if males had no access to females, knowledge of them, nor tranny ideology
>>44347893gender dysphoria is known to be related to self-image processing though, not brain sex
>if i delete a concept from existence wouldnt it be super weird if the people who want it didnt immediately invent it rather than spend generations groping around in the dark for it?
>>44347893behavior isn't a physical characteristic. they upset because they think their penis is their intestines falling out of their crotch so they're like please help put it back in
>>44347918was for >>44347897realistically if raised a bunch of AMABs on an island like that you probably would get nothing resembling a tranny unless you had at least one gay male among them. if you have a gay male then all bets are off, because said gay male if of the flamer sort will almost certainly begin slowly reinventing feminine expressions from first principles. if he wasnt killed for it and was allowed to prosper, especially if with other gays of the sort we consider femme now, then what would happen is that the bisexuals among the men would get jealous of the flamers, and effectively transition into flamers, which would be hilarious in the same way that realising a bisexual literally cannot process you except as a woman is to a gay guy now.
>>44347987i don't think other guys should be there either because that's just creating peer pressure
>>44347987without society telling them homksexualism is wrong, they'd all be prison gay.their heirarchy would revolve around tops bottoms and rape.
>>44347953>behavior just happens out of thin air
can just imagine the boys like, there's only way to decide who is right. then the wrestle until one fuck the other in the ass into submission.
>>44348005why are you trying to condemn gay guys to misery?>>44348009you have a point, but the bottoms are still going to realise theyre a category distinct from tops, realise what tops like, and start catering to it.
>>44348163and develop /female/ social roles? female brained bottoms
>>44348209it would be that by any other name, given twinks are essentially male females
>>44344867>false assertion>second assertion meant to contradict the false assertion you need to actually prove your presuppositions are true to establish a thesis
>>44347893everybody learns from others since humans are social but what would happen if your dysphoria existed in a vacuum probably would develop something even more extreme and subtle than agp
