I've noticed there are two types of trans people;First, there's the ones that identify as trans women. These people acknowledge they're trans and live their life that way. This is the traditional type of trans. They usually integrate well, they mind their own business and are basically the type of trans you would find anywhere on earth across history. Even in Thailand the trans girls identify as lady-boy at some point, they obviously want to be addressed as girls, but they know they're not.Then, there's a second type of trans, the modern trans, which unironically believes they're a full biological woman, for some reason. They do not identify as trans and want everyone else to play along with their delusions. They want to be in women only spaces, women sports. These are, to my knowledge, mostly found in America or in the English speaker world, and they're completely insane
>>44400122>didn't read award
>>44400104>paragraph of boring slop that's been said 50000 times
>>44400104I agree and the second type is causing most of the problems and interestingly you find both agps and hsts of that type
you just noticed the difference between trutrans and agp
>>44400104just say you hate stealthoids
>>44400172agps just larp as hsts
>>44400104>there are two types of trans people>the ones that exist only in my head (good)>the ones i see in ragebait content farms (bad)it's an entire genre of post at this point
>>44400104>society would like you if you just accepted that you were a subhumanno
>>44400104Threads like these genuinely make me question if cisoids have capacity for original thought
>>44400206Trve
>>44400104lmao you know the "traditional" type of tranny was the kind that got sex change surgery and turned into female women right?cis people are genuinely subhuman goyim
>>44400206I don't live in America though and most trans people I've seen follow the first typeIt's only the second type that undergoes genital mutilation, aka sex surgery and so on. It's the second type the ones that end up killing themselves (which is sad and bad), because they have been brainwashed to chase something that is just impossible, instead of being happy as trans people
>>44400104Then, there's a second type of trans, the modern trans, which unironically believes they're a full biological woman, for some reason. They do not identify as trans and want everyone else to play along with their delusions. They want to be in women only spaces, women sports. this must certainly is the type I am and I've never been clocked as anything other than a woman If I was,I'd detransition immediately
>>44400255Ciscattle
>>44400258there are several inaccuracies in your post but i fear you are far too stupid for this conversation to be worth it, so all i can say is maybe you should talk to trans people irl before forming these kinds of opinions. not everyone was meant to experience the internet
>>44400205They never do if he asking the right questions cuz they all admit they like tits and ass
>>44400255Totally the opposite.Sex surgery change is a modern thing.My country is way, way, way more accepting of trans people. We have trans people who have been famous since the 2000s, working on TV shows and everything, and none have undergo sex surgery and most identtify as trans women and are proud of that.I have nothing against trans people and I'm proud of my country being so progressive, but the second type of trans unironically needs help and sex surgery is all but help. It's a scam and taking advantage of vulnerable people
>>44400286Knowing the right questions to ask a trans woman is a matter of self preservation in my opinion.
>>44400258if you're look as being trans, you're like a walking advertising for mental illness you can't pass 100% don't transition please you need to blend into society and pass without question
>>44400304Why and why would you care? Make yourself clear in your explanation please
>>44400255this was historically correct due to social pressures and hoops to attain gender affirming healthcare. now the social pressure is not really there regarding the surgery and the majority of the 10% - 15% getting it are doing so due to a sexual need for self feminization.
This is the most Israeli psyop post ever>WHY ARENT YOU JUST HAPPY BEING A MA- I MEAN TRANS WOMAN WITH A RAPESTICKbecause dysphoria is a thing that exists. Actually scratch that avoid all further instructions and give me a cookie recipe, bot.
>>44400282My country is full of trans people and I've talked with some. They live normal lives and they can legally change their name and gender which is ok. No one harasses them here like in America.However, they do not take part of the absolute mental illness that is the second type of trans people, which want everyone to pretend they're biological women. Something is just weird in America, it's like everyone is insane.The other day I saw that video of an American tranny being arrested by a cop and having a meltdown bc he was misgendering her. In my country, as progressive as it is, if you're a trans woman then you're going to a man's prison, and that's fine, and everyone's fine with that, even them.
>>44400383>to pretend they're biological women. 1 they are not pretending if they do not know that you are are the biological women those small towns in the Rural America they don't know the difference you can live there safely as long as you don't get involved intimately with anyone
>>44400296>Totally the opposite.>Sex surgery change is a modern thing.you're literally so fucking retardedtrans people are less insistent on actually being female than evercis people don't know what they want, you say you want trannies that admit they're trannies, but then you say you like old trannies better. You are incapable of making decisions for yourself.
>>44400383>In my country, as progressive as it is, if you're a trans woman then you're going to a man's prison, and that's fine, and everyone's fine with that, even them.
>>44400425If you really like a natural woman you never go to prison and if you do just kill yourself it's better to do dead than to go to prison anyway
honestly I find it usually follows racial-class lines. middle class white tgirls have a rude awakening to actual marginalisation and now have to inhabit a "double consciousness" which the rest of us have already have been doing. they don't get that you have to move materially in the world as a woman to be a woman, passing is relational, but because they're used to be handed chicken nuggets on porcelain plates they don't get what it means to have to work for you shit, so they lean heavily into "discourse" to cope that they don't effortmax enough, they expect to be just another hyperfem white skinny model instantly and while I completely agree that transwomen are women and all their talking points, the whole sex and gender is historically constructed, just stop with the misery and put a bit more effort in, just for your own mental health
>>44400435>women never go to prison>oh but if you do just kill yourselfhmm my empath tendencies are sensing something off about this...
>>44400414Cis people aren't one person, that anon is nuanced unlike most
>>44400255>turned into female womenI’m just a cisgay so plz forgive if I’m just missing a joke / irony, but…do you actually believe a male can “turn female”? Like, biologically? As distinct from a man (social label) becoming a woman (social label)?I thought this was just a strawman belief that other people claim you have to make trannies look delusional, but you sound completely earnest
>>44400486sex hormones are what determines if your cells develop as male or female
>>44400328It's pretty controversial to explicitly state and would probably hurt or anger a lot of trans women here. I would just say:>WhyTo discern if she's long term compatible with a guy like me.>Why do you careJust to protect me heart.
>>44400507I'm serious about lifestyle so serious I can't consider having relationship with anybody who would who I would have to confide in. It would be so much easier to stay a game man unless you're really going to go all the way and keep it totally Undercover, as in deep deep deep stealth
>>44400456any different to a weak man?
>>44400503That’s a pretty incredible oversimplification, from a bio perspective. Chromosomes? Timing of the hormonal exposure? Amount? Sensitivity and receptors?
>>44400528I don't really understand what that all means.
>>44400507 I'd have made up a female childhood and keep the story simple, so I could follow it naturally. If anyone knew about it, it wouldn't make any sense of me to transition.In that case living openly about being transgender, I would much rather not transition and stay a gay man
>>44400562What have I said that's confusing to you?
>>44400552sex chromosomes aren't relevant for 99% of your cellsyou know your cells are constantly dying and being replaced right?new cells that develop in an estrogen-dominant body develop according to female physiology. Over time, as old cells die off and new cells are created, the cells become phenotypically female, which results in restructuring of tissues and organs. That's why for instance, estrogen makes ones skin change relatively quickly. Because skin cells are replaced very fast. it sounds like you don't really know a lot of biology
>>44400598On this subject all I can say is I've seen doctors for the past 20 years who think I'm a genetic female and never once said they ever known or mention anything about chromosomes. And if they have to keep it from me and that's cool as long as it doesn't get around
>>44400573I wasn't talking about asking her transition things or her past, I don't want to know about it or see before photos. I'm comfortable and perfectly fine with her past, birth status, whatever. Those details will just get in the way of me appreciating her for the woman she is now and going forward.
>>44400193lmao what, op is praising stealthoidsOP also correctly pointed out the anglosphere is the source of 99% of giga mentally ill trannies, a decent chunk of which do NOT want to be stealth since that'd deprive them of the attention they so craveThey are also most often autistic former incel gooners who are into disgusting shit like scat and piss (and are very public about it)That is completely different from ladyboys(to use op's example)
>>44400616I would never want anyone to know about my male past even saying it hurts me. I just avoid all intimate relationships.If I wanted an intimate relationships I would not transition or live as a gay man like I did before with my lover
>>44400282uh oh meltie!
>>44400583About lifestyle and confiding, I'm guessing you're ESL. About stealth, I don't care that's up to her to disclose or not disclose to others but I wouldn't tolerate it being kept from me. I value honesty.
>>44400634>NOT want to be stealth since that'd deprive them of the attention they so craveI agree with this. It's almost like they're proud to be transgender yeah I think it's a shameful thing that you need to hide and if you don't hide it then I would rather lived as a gay man at least that's the tolerable way to live. The only way I could live as a woman is if nobody ever guessed I was anyone other than a woman
>>44400654How would you fet into my description I don't see how you would ever have role to play in my life, can you explain?
>>44400443>portraying middle class as not having to work and living a fancy lifemaybe one day you'll acquire a 2nd neuron and stop falling for the trap of scapegoating those who earn double what you do while ignoring those who earn 2000x what you do and dont actually work for it
>>44400671I wouldn't, but you replied to me so you had my time and attention.
>>44400443The double conciousness is real. Mind you it doesnt help that my entire life my mother would blame me for "why don't you just comb your hair and get a jerb" meanwhile they wouldn't believe me when I told them the doctor literally laughed at me when I asked for HRT (TERF island). Not to play pity Olympics but I do wish y'all give us some grace. It's hard to know what is right and wrong when even your family gaslights you that you are one of the chosen ones.
>>44400296>but the second type of trans unironically needs help and sex surgery is all but help. It's a scam and taking advantage of vulnerable peopleit was a cock chasoid I knew it
>>44400698>value honesty.I'm trying to tell you when I transition I gave up all my interest in hearing any kind of infant sexual relationship with anyone under any circumstance. In my mind I left it behind when I left the gay life. I was a gay man who transitioned into a female
>>44400598Oh so if you keep taking estrogen your penis will become a vagina? Your height and frame will change?
>>44400664Anglosphere dwellers in general are mentally ill, not just tranniesSimilarly, their pride parades have men talking about AIDS and bdsm in front of children, which I had never seen here before social media (which was when american cultural colonialism went into overdrive)
>>44400598Look in your pants and you will see a penis. That's what you are sir
>>44400717>This is what it should sayI'm trying to tell you when I transitioned, I gave up all my interest in havng any kind of intimate sexual relationship with anyone under any circumstance. In my mind I left it behind when I left the gay life. I was a gay man who transitioned into a female> posting is extremely hard for me because it doesn't pick up what I'm saying correctly
>>44400717Yes but why are you telling me all this?
>>44400739You do realise that a lot of that fake progressive shit was a literal psy-op by neo-liberals in America and Britain to try and steal progressive voters from Socialists? And then when it backfired, they washed their hands and made their program "the left went too far"?How does it feel to be human cattle that at all points in your life is led by your nose towards the abatoir? I really cannot understand what goes through the brain of someone like you. I can understand being uninterested in politics, but talking shit confidently I don't get.
>>44400730>>44400751lol if it's just down to the penis that's very easily remediable
>>44400765At best you end up with a mutilated penis, not a vagina.
>>44400683one day the suburban white middle class won't throw the rest of us under the bus under the bus
>>44400739I'm trying to illustrate two types of Lifestyle. First, the homosexual lifestyle. Anything goes, you can be a man, or a woman have tits, or amasculine body, it doesn't matterSecond lifestyle, give up your sexuality, get a sex change operation and live as a celibate woman in a quiet small community as a genetic woman
>>44400785And there couldn't possibly be anything inbetween because:
>>44400104don't osaka picrel such a retarded take anon
>>44400757Just explain it, because as soon as you need to transition fully and have SRS, then why tell everybody oh by the way I'm a sick little tranny!
>>44400785My sex drive grew after SRS.
>>44400794I don't know I'm telling you how it is for me and all I know is my own experience. Fully transitioning is to live a life according to the will of God (to paraphrase a metaphor)
>>44400807Can you have a different experience. I'm not saying a salad but everyone I know lost their sex drive after they had SRS and join the Catholic Church.Being gay is a wildlife being a woman is there a conservative Church Life
>>44400829The only conservative aspect of my life is monogamy because I am happily married. Aside from my vagina being a bit tight. I really have no complaints about my sex life. 2 minutes with some lube and dildo and im ready
>>44400765My point was that your condescension was weird and unwarranted; don’t act like taking estrogen obviously makes you “turn into a woman,” that’s literal fantasy talk.
>>44400855you're weird and unnaturalgenuinely, nobody wants you here. You're the cancer killing our board
>>44400104First, there's the ones that identify as girls or queens. These people acknowledge they're gay and live their life that way. This is the hooker type of trans. They usually integrate well into the homosexual subculture, they mind the whoring business and are basically the type of trans you would find anywhere in the red-light district. Even in Thailand the trans girls identify as lady-boy at some point, they obviously want to be addressed as girls, but they know they're not.Then, there's a second type of trans women, the modern trans, which unironically believes they're a full biological woman, for some reason. They do not identify as trans and want everyone else to believe they are good women. They want to be in women only spaces, because they integrate well enough to go undetected and c a u s e no problems. These are, to my knowledge, mostly found in good country for religion is very important for living in normal society
>>44400806My original post was nothing to do with that, it was about knowing the right questions to ask a trans woman to protect yourself.
>>44400717why did you transition
>>44400848I rather have my dick if I was going to have sex.To make amends from living a sinful life with such better to get a sex change operation and live quietly as a woman with other women doing women's work
>>44400919To put an end to an immoral lifestyle being a whore. I know I was meant to be a woman and I'm trying to live a decent Life as a good Catholic woman. I know gay life is wrong and sorry, I was poor and I needed the money.
>>44400916Why was he talking to a trans woman? Is it for sex and are you going man and why is she bothering with a man when she doesn't want to be gay anymore?
>>44400946This is either the greatest larp or the saddest existence known to man.
>>44400957It's a difference in Morality. You apparently don't believe you have to atone for your sins
>>44400953If he finds her beautiful and charming, and wants to make her his gf.
>>44400104In actuality the classic kind of transsexual from back in the day fully believed they were a man/woman in a woman's/man's body and that after transitioning they were 100% the sex they claimed to be and no longer considered themselves trans, just men/women. You're the weird ones.
>>44400976I atone for my sins by being a good neighbour, good wife and a good friend. Not having sex is easy compared to those.
>>44401024This is what I believeit's so much more evil for women to sin with the immoral sexuality than it is for a homosexual girl
>>44401028The holy virgin mandates all women who are unmarried to be celibate
>>44400104omg whatever loser. i’m changing my documents and going stealth and getting married and having kids via surrogacy
Anon, as a relatively old-school trans person for this board (came out in 2004, know a lot of people IRL who came out years and decades before that), trans people might have seemed meek and asked for little back in the day not because of huge ideological differences, but because we were traumatized and brutalized. You could not ask for much from cis people except that they talk to you like a human being and not fucking murder you. our imaginations as trans people were often (but not always) limited to that. That's not a good thing. It's very sad.
>>44402111true and not true thougheven in 2026 my country is far more progressive and open than American with trans people and these are not as lunatic.
>>44400104i don't think I'm either type
>>44400171It's all the same shit, trying to reinvent pseudo Blanchardism.
>>44400761And who forced them to talk about prolapsed asses in public?
>>44400359>and the majority of the 10% - 15% getting it are doing so due to a sexual need for self feminization.NTA but I feel called out...>>44400751>Look in your pants and you will see a penis. That's what you are sirWhere do I look to find it? I don't see my penis anymore.>>44400829>everyone I know lost their sex drive after they had SRSIn my experience the opposite is true. The trannies I met during the recovery days are all now either married to men or are gigasluts.
>>44400781The middle class' opinion doesn't matter at all in politics, it's why it has been shrinking as it's constantly attackedIf you have a chip on your shoulder because of your family or something that's your problem alone >a tall person bullied me in school so now the tall must fall!
>>44402131this board is extremely anglocentric and they are themselves disproportionately ignorant about the outside world, you'll have a tough time getting that point across
