Damn I'm feeling pretty lonely lets see what's up on dating apps:I've never seen a chaser advertise so blatantly I had to gasp.
>>44405750Chasers are diseased
>>44405750Does this work for the guys who do this
it's not a chaser if he's just into cis women
Would it be OK if he just said nb baddies without the (afab)?
>>44405750>I am 100% pure-bread Golden Retriever The dogs are fucking the women now
>>44405750>>44405764Not a chaser retard. He wants a hyperfem woman with sub-80 IQ which "nonbinary AFABs" usually are.
>>44405971>hyperfem woman>non binary You are the one with an iq of 80
>>44405979That's what nonbinary means nowadays. A 95% woman category for hyperfem woman who want to add imaginary oppression points and play around with pronouns.
>>44406005Idk, i dont interact with such people.
>>44406005terminally moidbrainedfemale socialization is far more conformative than male, and nonbinary for afabs is basically the afab equivalent of the amab gnc umbrella encompassing twinks, femboys, theymabs, *moders, *hons, and so on. no afab identifies as theyfab unless they have severe gender dysphoria because the stakes of sacrificing their prime years to exclude themselves of cis f privilege is insane. the real trvth nvke is that there are many, many more femreppers who identify as she/her and would never in a million years identify as a theyfab because its a social death sentence occupied by those with little to lose optics nvkes.
>>44406179this is completely delusionalcis women in progressive places experience no cost or loss of privilege for identifying as nonbinary, they do it at least in part because getting to call themselves trans gives them privilege in progressive spaces. Cis women maintain cis women privilege regardless of what pronouns they use. furthermore, the "amab gnc umbrella" doesn't actually include twinks and femboys, most twinks and femboys hate being grouped into gnc or nonbinary categories and most progressives don't like twinks and femboys either. The "amab gnc umbrella" is in practice mostly populated by hairy bearded men in dresses, which twinks and femboys want to be as far away from as possible
>>44406179Have you ever heard the concept of inverse privilege. Women have privilege in any space they enter. Cishet women identify either with Nonbinary or Bisexual in spaces with "inverse privilege" so they are always at the top of the social hierarchy
>>44406239your entire theory is predicated on the assumption that "progressive places" are representative of human nature and that afab gender non conformity identification is entirely a consequence of living in a progressive place. ridiculous. you are wrong about the rest, society at large treats twinks and femboys as non-cis conforming>>44406266and what happens when they leave those spaces
>>44406326>afab gender non conformity"afab" gender nonconformity in most cases is pronounsthere are women who are genuinely nonconforming, but the guy in the op is obviously not looking for thatsociety treats twinks and femboys as nonconforming, that doesn't mean they're particularly welcome in progressive lgbt or nonbinary spaces
>>44406366>"afab" gender nonconformity in most cases is pronounsnowhy are you arguing this instead of trying to learn? you act like you know these people better than they know themselves. just because you can't tell the difference besides a pronoun between a normal cis woman and someone who identifies as theyfab, doesnt mean there isnt. ridiculous
>>44406389nobody self identifies as a theyfabyou clearly haven't been in a lot of queer spaces
>>44406418i know many afab enbies. what you're doing is the equivalent of some cishet sexologist saying the only difference between a boymoder and a man is mental illness or social contagion
>>44406326They drop their pronouns when they leave those spaces. Go back to she/her when they get a boyfriend (90% of female NBs are straight) and don't want to make him feel gay
>>44406458a boymoder is medically transitioningno matter how a boymoder socially identifies, they are physically different from a man
>>44406462and you think this means they were cis women all along instead of reppers? compare these people to actual cis women, they are nothing alike if you actually know them. they are victims of cisheteronormativity and the costs of giving up cis privilege are like committing suicide so they rep
>>44406501why are they medically transitioning without socially transitioning?and what is your opinion on theyfabs who on hrt then
>>44406558These don't exist>>44406523They are the same. Acting quirky occasionally is very different from being different
>>44406558you know whytheyfabs on testosterone aren't theyfabs
>>44406578your argument is that social presentation is the only thing that matters so dont ignore the question on why hrt boymoders dont socially transition.its the same reason femreppers dont>They are the sameyeah you are just telling on yourself here. terminal moidbrain with no willingness to listen and learn
>>44406587if they identify as non binary then they are regardless of whether they are on hrt or not, so they do exist
>>44406592Different anon. And anyways, my argument isn't about social presentation. Personally, I don't believe in the existence of gnc people. They are either cis or trans, not something in between. These people aren't even gnc, they are switching meaningless pronouns around and appropriating Trans culture
Nah I kinda get it like when I hear nonbinary I think of the one cute femme at my college who had a shaved head and always wore oversized jackets. If that's you're type I don't see what's wrong with chasing it as long as your respectful
>>44406598yes, because being nonbinary has no definition beyond self-identitythey aren't trans though
>>44406598I’ve got no dog in this fight, but let’s be real for a second without the use of cross sex hormones then they’re not trans they’re just cis women rebranded. Same goes for those men in dresses that call themselves nonbinary, if you’re not at least changing yourself into a more androgynous state then what’s the point. It’s the weakest rebranding ever lol
>>44406602you're free to believe whatever you want but they will continue to exist regardless of whether you believe in them. i think if you actually talked to them you would see they do exist>>44406607trans is anything not cis so they are trans. cis is anyone who identifies with the sex they were assigned at birth, which enbies dont>>44406616being honest about who you are doesnt require changing your physical presentation
>>44406662>cis is anyone who identifies with the sex they were assigned at birth, which enbies dontactually no, trans is when you have gender dysphoria and / or medically transitionmost nonbinary people don't even self-identify as trans
>>44406662Yes it does. Women and men are "social constructs", but you have to conform to something. You can't change labels and their meanings freely
>>44405750holy shit she's perfectwhere is she?give her to megive her to meGIVE HER TO ME ANON
>>44406712It's a he. Who wants a theyfab hyperfem girlfriend
>>44406662>>44406598This board is really newfagged out if we have people saying this woke nonsense>>44406674exactly this, non-binary are not transsexual (ie trans). Stop trying to appropriate our mental disorder, it's insulting. The worst part is that "nb" people are usually the most transphobic. >>44381487 :)
>>44406674they're not cis if they identify as enby, whether they wanna identify as trans or not is also up to them>>44406676if you cant tell the difference between a man and a woman do they owe you proof of what they are or is that onus on you?
>>44406726ive been here since 2015. enbies are my frens and gatekeeping them is doing transphobes work for them for free
>>44406742>they're not cis if they identify as enbythat's not how it works actuallybeing trans is not just a social identity
>>44406742>>44406764Cis means that you don't medically transition, 99% of "non-binary" don't and are therefore cissexual, stop trying to erase actual trans people. Literally just woke transphobia.>gatekeeping them is doing transphobes work for them for freeExcept non-binary aren't trans so it's not transphobia, like idrc if someone wants to be called "they" as long as they know that they are not trans and it's just a pronoun thing. It's really insulting that nonbinarys act like being trans = pronoun change. >>44406779true, they erasing what it means to be transsexual
>>44406779why is that not how it works and i agree that being trans is more than a social identity. if someone says they are nonbinary they are expressing a non cis gender identity. i dont see why thats controversial
>>44406827>if someone says they are nonbinary they are expressing a non cis gender identitythat's a social identitybeing trans is not just when you say you're trans
>>44406816you are erasing trans people by claiming non binary people are cis. how am i erasing anybody or anything. you are gatekeeping and shifting goalposts and arguing over semantics and doing everything you can to invalidate enbies instead of just accepting them
>>44406864Bro people can id however they want, but saying nb are trans is like saying gay is just an identity and that if someone who is opposite-sex attractive IDs as gay then they are gay (rather than gay meaning same-sex attracted). Being trans (that is, transsexual) is a combination of gender dysphoria + medical transition + lived experience (ie not an identity but something you are, physically, psychological, and socially)
>>44406927ok so what would the solution be?
>pure-bread
>>44406864nta but fuck enbies, pos retarded identity that doesn't exist, only enbies that transsexualises their body can be an actual non binary. stupid non transitioning enbies are just cissies larping. go fucm yourself with this shit.
>>44406662Remember when an anon posted here, saying a lot of cis women move into trans spaces and say crazy things like "you dont need hrt to be trans".Its fucked
>>44407180the final solution for theyfab kind perhaps :3 >>44407476kek>>44407698trvke
