>>44408486
i dont want to be accepted into their community, i want to be as far away from them as possible. i only care about being viewed as a woman by society

VALIDATE ME GIRLPUSSY LESBIAN GIRLPIV REAL WOMEN

>>44408520
to be viewed as a woman by society you have to assimilate. if you hate cis women so bad then why do you wanna be one, nona? that doesn’t make any sense

>>44408486
Oh, don't worry.
For every "gross" AFaB comment, AFaBs have committed plural exclusions of assigned males upon zero evidence of danger to their
sweet
pink
cunnies

>>44408537
i like boys

>>44408543
the way you type is so psychotic. check yourself into a psych ward

>>44408486
>transfems
cringe
>is so gross and absolutely reeks of envy.
give examples, I presume you are talking about transbian rapehons
>picrel
I am attracted to cis men :3

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>>44408486
>reeks of envy
well duuuh. they get to live life on easy mode by default.
>how do you expect to be accepted into their community
I don't, though. I'm very much fine with being a misogynistic hrt femfag.

>>44408597
life on easy mode is being born a rich cismoid

>>44408610
Imagine being a wealthy daughter to some magnate

Imagine the continuous free shit from not just your family but from literal swathes of men

how do they talk about cis women

>>44408610
Nope. Even rich guys my age have a worse off life than middle class foids. Being born rich as a guy still comes with a fuckton of responsibilities, while foids have zero responsibilities and a ton of default social privileges.
Even rich cismoids don't get the right to an absolute male-only space. Meanwhile the whole system apparatus gets into motion to defend some marginal foids from the horror of seeing a tranny.

>>44408626
why would a woman born into wealth need suitors to buy her anything…? also, how would her life be any better than a males? it would be worse.

>>44408643
all of this is because most moids are retarded and don’t know how to adapt to the modern world. they’re stupid and have literal caveman brains. women are superior in every way in navigating the modern world due to their excellent social skills (among many other things), but moids don’t like that so they beat and rape them for their sick pleasure (because they’re cavemen)

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>>44408638
a lot of weird ways. here’s one example

>>44408695
>retarded misandrist
I hope you get gangraped by niggers, skinned alive then cut into pieces and your useless flesh is dumped into the nearest ditch.

>>44408544
GIVE ME ACCESS TO YOUR VAGINA

>>44408663
>how would her life be any better than a males? it would be worse
How many rich foids have committed suicide compared to rich men?
At every social class, every single foid lives on easy mode compared to the men of the same class.
Denying this makes you retarded.

>>44408663
>she doesn't need wealth
She still expects gifts. She could be worthless beyond some makeup. Worthless.
And loved and wanted and assisted.

Look here at >>44408643

>>44408781
>ermm moids are oppressed because they like to stick a glock in their mouth
skill issue. also women attempt suicide more on average, men just choose more violent ways to go out (therefore making it more successful)

>>44408771
lolol there’s that caveman brain i’m talking about. you need to be castrated and possibly killed for the betterment of society.

>>44408804
>women attempt suicide more on average
Bullshit.
"Attempted suicide" now counts even a post on social media, lol.
>men just choose more violent ways to go out
Translation: Men do commit suicide. Foids just LARP so they can get help (and they always do because foids' lives are always on easy mode).
Again: How many rich foids have committed suicide compared to rich men?
It's once in 2 years when a rich foid commits suicide. It's not even news when a rich man commits suicide unless he's high profile.

>>44408786
a woman who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth most likely wouldn’t desire expensive gifts (unless maybe from other rich folk.) wealthy individuals have literally everything money can buy, so they get bored with it and start getting into either increasingly weird or average things.

>>44408520
I have bad news for you, half of society is afab and can instinctively tell you hate them even if you don't outright say it. this alone prevents you from being accepted as a woman

>>44408838
>Foids just LARP
a lot of women who have survived suicide expressed wanting to be pretty and undisfigured even in death. pressure on women to be meek and put together at all times even permeates death. it makes sense they would swallow a few bottles of pills rather than blow half their skull off.

also, why do you assume the male suicide rate is at the fault of women? do you expect women to do everything for you? support your brothers instead of calling them faggots for struggling with their mental health then blaming women when they actually kill themselves

>>44408892
>why do you assume the male suicide rate is at the fault of women?
Because it routinely is.
There's a reason the suicide gender gap in the lowest in non-misandrist societies and the highest in misandrist ones.
Japan has the lowest suicide gender gap but also the lowest amount of feminism of any developed nation.
>do you expect women to do everything for you?
I expect women not to actively try to make men's lives worse. Since women clearly aren't even willing to try to meet this expectation, I switched to actively trying to make women's lives worse myself. And it's working out great, actually.
This week I destroyed another woman's career using bullshit laws about "gender representation" because why the fuck not.
In October I get back to fucking around with schools for not having enough male teachers.
>support your brothers instead of calling them faggots for struggling with their mental health then blaming women when they actually kill themselves
The two are connected though. Almost always it's the fault of a woman when a man commits suicide. You're asking me to ignore reality so that foids get away once more without being held accountable.
Well, guess what? Request denied.
Making women's lives intentionally worse is an absolute necessity and it will happen regardless of how much you yap about it. Make sure you save up for your old age because otherwise you won't benefit from the expanded life expectancy the way boomer women are.

Cis women have always been cruel to me

>>44408931
holy shit you’re so deluded. you don’t want life to be better for men, you just want it to be worse for women.

i can tell your life sucks, you probably creeped a lot of people out in your youth, probably a weird kid who didn’t get much female attention because of it, huh? it can’t possibly be your own fault, right? it could never be! you need someone to blame. so start pointing fingers at the people you and your kind actively oppress instead of looking in the damn mirror for once. boohoo, moids don’t like some parts of the system they built anymore! it’s not fair, women need to rebuild it for you because they owe you for ummm… not being domestic sex slave baby machines anymore in the west! what? helping other men? um… that’s gay and weird.

you need to kill youself, that’s all there is worth saying to you.

>>44409047
lol wait i missed my opportunity to say contribute to the male suicide rate

>>44409047
>you don’t want life to be better for men, you just want it to be worse for women.
I want both. A worse life for women does improve the life for men though. Because, again, these two are connected on a society scale.
>i can tell your life sucks
Neah. My life is great. I'm married to a man, I make good money and even have time to do political lobbying and activism. Stop projecting your inadequacies on me, foid.
>weird kid who didn’t get much female attention because of it
Again, stop projecting your bullshit on other people. I'm a faggot. Which means I got way more female attention than I wanted. And that's precisely why I know so much about foids. They always run their mouths freely around faggots.
>you need to kill youself
Neah. I'll live way into my 80s and continue to make women's lives worse. You will die by suicide or extreme poverty long before I do.
In 20 years you will remember this conversation. And I'll be one of the rich fags who will write the policies that purposefully make your life worse.
Enjoy :)

Every single instance that I have been homeless or had a gun in my face or a man beating me to death was because a woman was bored and felt I didn't deserve to live anymore. I got the male privilege of growing up in a prison being tortured by women for fun and as an adult every woman makes sure to remind me, usually violently with force, that only vagina women are allowed to be victims, and also it didn't happen.

I just want women out of my life and away from me for my own safety but predators need constant prey so they come to my life, hate crime me, then cry that the real women are unsafe after attacking me when I was trying to run away.

I don't envy women, I'm terrified of them. I wish you understood how monstrous you are to every other human for no other reason than spite and conceit.

>>44409102
>Neah. My life is great. I'm married to a man, I make good money and even have time to do political lobbying and activism
larp larp larppp

have fun rinsing the shit out of your ass i guess. you’ve never changed anything and you never will. you’ll die a failed activist for a cause that doesn’t exist. if you somehow manage to become a big shot somebody will give you the kirk special before you can do anything real.

being a misogynistic MRA while also being a fag has gotta be the funniest shit i’ve seen today. do you think the redpill bros are gonna side with you? they want you dead too, retard.

>you will die by suicide

but i thought that was a moid thing? foids just larp suicide!

get over yourself lmao

>>44408736
>she post some bitter and resentful twitter tard
can you fuck off of this board?
thx

>>44409196
>do you think the redpill bros are gonna side with you?
Most redpill bros are fags too, foid.
You simply don't know what you don't know.
>MRA
I'm not an MRA thoughbeit. MRAs are weak. They try to reason with foids and beg for basic human rights. I'm not that.
I start from the correct assumption that all foids are evil and every institution is inherently improved if it has fewer foids in it. So I just destroy foids' careers and replace them with men. It's been working great so far. One high school in my city went from huge dropout rates and nearly the last in performances in my country to being in top 3 over the last decade. The only thing that changed was the male to female ratio of teachers. From 30% male to 80% male. Currently working to increase that ratio even further.
You also underestimate how many foids agree with me.
70% of women are active antifeminists and recognize misandry as a threat to themselves as well. You (and your demented ideas) are not representative at all. You are the cancer that needs to be excised. And it will be. By any means necessary.

this thread could really be just on r9k(the incel board)
why is it here on lgbt?

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>>44409236
>Most redpill bros are fags too
wrong. but i mean if you wanna test it you can go say you’re gay on /pol/ rn and see how they react

>So I just destroy foids' careers and replace them with men.
no you don’t, you sit in your moms basement and argue with people on 4chan until you fall asleep in a puddle of your own sweat. nobody believes you.

>From 30% male to 80% male
holy fuuuuck you’re so right we need more moid teachers to sexually abuse the students! did yk male teachers commit around 90% of sex crimes against students despite being only about 20% of teachers?

who cares though? none of this is real, you made it all up, of course.

>70% of women are active antifeminist
wrong again, why do you keep lying? it’s not a good look anon. also even if they were why would you care? do you think even they would want to help you make their lives worse? question, do you like to shove play dough up your nose in your free time?

>You are the cancer that needs to be excised. And it will be. By any means necessary.
i’m so fucking scared. this (definitely very real and successful and rich) gay man on 4chan is going to change my (yes, me specifically) life forever and then kill(?) me!

nobody cares about AFABs. you’re there so i can lie to you. good luck clocking me

>>44409257
it is giving me r9k vibes. i’m not even responding anymore (i’m op) but it is kinda funny seeing these guys argue over something that is so so far from the og topic.

>>44409326
>/pol/
Anon, /pol/ is a glownigger board. I can't even take you seriously atp.
>did yk male teachers commit around 90% of sex crimes against students despite being only about 20% of teachers?
That may be true in the shithole you live in. It's not true in civilized countries at all. In fact sex crimes in high schools are very rare and nearly always committed by women in my country.
>wrong again, why do you keep lying?
It's not wrong at all. Only 29% of women identify as feminists and half of them have no idea just how hateful and detrimental to themselves feminism is. And that's in the US, which is a turbo misandrist "nation". In more civilized countries self-id as feminist is in single digits.
Feminism is a marginal hate cult. And it's time to be shoved back where it belongs.
>i’m so fucking scared
You should be. Not of me personally. We're probably not even on the same continent. But if you have any self-awareness you should be asking yourself who is going to pay your pension in a system where women contribute less than nothing and men have decided to stop contributing?
The robots? The islamist immigrants? The future doesn't look bright at all for you, foid.

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>>44409374
>/pol/
sure, but a good 98% of users are real genuine retards. you should go with your flock (or maybe not. again, they hate you because you’re a faggot)

>It's not true in civilized countries at all.
wrong. i’m from the us for context.

>Only 29% of women
see picrel.
also for gen z the stats are much, much higher.

> and men have decided to stop contributing
moids aren’t needed in a civilized society. anything that made them special before can now be partially or fully automated. thus making most workers equal. you’re not special, you’re actually quite useless without the social and mental capabilities that women possess, can’t automate that

ok i’m tired, i’m gonna go to bed because i have work in the morning unlike you little chuddypie. gbye

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>>44409465
damn it’s actually higher globally

>>44409465
>also for gen z the stats are much, much higher.
We all know zoomers are the first generation to be measurably more retarded than previous generations. You don't need to confirm it.
>thus making most workers equal
Hahahahahahahahahahahahha.
This is several orders of magnitude of wrong worse than all of your comments.

>>44408486
it is simply typical moidbrained insecurity and envy

>>44408486
I feel like most trannies only see cis women as sources for validation.
0 care for our opinion, likes, dislikes, ...
Gives very ''you should learn your place'' vibes.
Shut up and agree that you and I are literally the same.

>>44409664
blame it on misogyny

>>44408520
This is an example of what I'm talking about.
>i only care about being viewed as a woman by society
Validation is what most trans are after. Not wanting to actually be part of the women collective.
And we can tell. It's pretty selfish and unappealing.

>>44408543
>zero evidence of danger
You're right.
There's 0 evidence of vaginas getting raped by penises.

>>44408643
>male-only space
Lol.
You're the salty faggot that hates cis women because they have cooties.
Are you now ready to share the specific story that made you unable to stop screeching about your male-only space grievance?

>foid
Do trans women like this term being used to refer to women?
I find it childish and Chud coded.

>>44408781
Are you an ex-Chud who turned gay, to escape the female menace? Divorce rape, easy mode, foid, ...
You certainly talk like one. You're a Chud's phrase dispenser.
Can you share your origin story?

>>44409746
some do, some don’t.
and yeah it is because most 4chan trannies are ugly retarded AGP chuds

>>44408486
>the way some transfems talk about cis women (or just afab individuals in general) is so gross and absolutely reeks of envy. how do you expect to be accepted into their community if you’re so weird and disgusting towards them? either become a better person or rope

You had me until the last part. I noticed the same thing or sheer animosity towards men. All of the women in my life might like to complain but they don't typically treat them with outright hatred. It just gives off the same vibe when a guy thinks he has to compete with you for a woman and starts acting like a fool

>>44409704
> Joining the women collective

As if there is one women collective. My friend from collage was bullied by her former friends after she was raped, apperently her former friends liked the guy better.

I'm friends with plenty of cis women, but the idea that women are a collective or a community is questionable. Some trans women, like me, have primarily cis women friends. Others lean more toward making friends amongst other trans women.

I just happened to get lucky and not make friends with any women who ended up going transphobic. Those who go through that experiance early on tend to seek safety amongst other trans women.

>>44409746
No, that's a damn incels term. I can't imagine why any trans woman would want to use it. There are weird people in every group and we are on 4 chan though.

>>44409735
>>44409761
>who hurt you
NTA but one doesn't need to be hurt by a woman to disagree with the structurally misandrist "civilization" we live in.
You girls seriously don't understand your opposition at all. No theory of mind. Just pure hatred.
Sure, many loud chuds are dumbfucks and losers but their handlers aren't. Peter Thiel is much more likely to agree with the chuddy faggot and he's way more powerful than any feminist.
The reason right wing supermajorities are becoming the norm is precisely because of women like you. Normal women will side with their husbands and fathers when they see your screeching.
And putting everything on "moidbrained" or economics or "who hurt you" type of pseudo-reasoning and dismissal isn't helping your case at all.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.” - and that's exactly what an increasing portion of men feel like it. There won't be an "incel revolution" or any of these 4chan LARPs. But there will be a very sudden decline because we all depend on labor that can't be automated and is 99%+ male.
But hey, what do I know. I'm just a retarded tranny. Though not retarded enough to be a misandrist.

>>44408781
Hay note from me, a trans woman, women actually have nearly double the suicide attempt rate as that of men. Women tend to choose less lethal ways because the ways we choose tend to be less violent and make less of a mess.

Please stop making this "men commiting suicide" argument without recognizing that you are talking about success rate and not attempt rate.
A woman trying to die by taking pills is not larping, we just happen to fail more because we don't want to leave brain matter on the wall for someone else to clean up.

There are cis people here speaking from some level of ignorance and some in bad faith, but none of them as agregepus as how you are acting. As someone who has attempted through less effective methods, it was still a genuine attempt. Please do better.

Ps. I am also >>44409862

>>44409902
>labor that can't be automated
damn that thing that one nona said really stuck for you guys lol. she’s right now that i’m thinking about it, we don’t really need many brute force manual labor jobs anymore, most of that is already automated anyways.

>>44409951
they choose less lethal ways becuase they make "suicidal gestures" not actual attempts

>>44409951
you’re not gonna get through to these guys, nona. everyone on here is a stubborn asshole and most will never change. but i like that you still have a spark of hope and determination in you

>>44409902
what screeching?
I'm mocking that person for their inability to stop talking about the same thing over and over and over.
>Muh male-only spaces.
I'm genuinely interested in hearing the origin story of that allegedly gay dude.

>> 44409902
I am genuinely trying to have grace towards you here, but you are making it hard. Please recognize that most of what you think of as misandry is a reaction to abuse by men both individually and socioculurally.

Please consider how other women may feel, just for a second.

As a trans woman, I should see this misandrist society if it does exist according to you, right? Well I don't. Please consider who you are putting down, because it's not just cis women. Most trans women see society as heavily misogynistic, not misandrist.

Or, at the very least, acknowledge that what you are saying is really weird for a trans woman.

>>44410021
Ps. I am >>44409951 again.

>>44409902
I wasn't aware of the Chud to tranny pipeline being this common.
Fascinating to have those two conflicting interests. Chudness and transgenderism.

>>44409958
I was not making a suicide gesture, why are you acting like this? Did you read what I wrote?

Also, I will be going by Lavender84932 so it's easier to see which comment is mine.

>>44409983
I guess I should know better. I am just upset and frustrated by all this, and feel like my suicide attempt is being mocked now. Thank you. And sorry.

>>44410033
it’s because they’re not actually trans. they just hate their chuddy lives and then see a beautiful, successful woman having a nice time and get jealous and assume that the reason she’s happy is not because of whatever circumstances are upon her, but instead due to the mere fact that she’s a woman. so they troon out thinking becoming a woman will fix their sad ugly socially awkward life and grant them stacy status, but of course, it only gets worse from there and they end up either detransing or killing themselves within the next 10 years. sux man

>>44410033
>anyone who is not a turbomisandrist is a chud
nona, that's not how this works.
if you define "chudness" as everything that disagrees with the furthest fringes of the far-left, you are the one painting yourself into a corner.
>>44410021
>Most trans women see society as heavily misogynistic, not misandrist
No, they really don't. Most terminally online shutin ANGLOID trannies have these bizarre and extremist beliefs. Stop assuming you are the default. You're simply not. You're a tiny minority in an already tiny minority.
>Please consider how other women may feel, just for a second.
I do. Nearly all cis women I interact with are concerned about their sons being denied opportunities on the basis of their sex.
I live in Europe. Female-favoring affirmative action is the absolute norm everywhere, from medicine to working class jobs. There literally isn't any place left for men to succeed.
It's arrogant of you to assume that this has no consequences or that most women think like you.
>Please recognize that most of what you think of as misandry is a reaction to abuse by men both individually and socioculurally
No, I won't recognize such an insane proposition at all.
Collective punishment is evil, regardless of whether it's advocated by the chud faggot above or by a tranny. You are all insane.
And no, the vast majority of women do not think like you at all. Quite the opposite. They all think you are insane. And they are largely correct.

>>44410053
>my one example means the statistic is wrong
woman logic

>>44410082
Collective punishment? What punishment?

Also, I was talking about trans women I have talked it outsidem not sure why you think I am terminally online for seeing that as a woman I get sexually harassed, groped, catcalled, SA'd, and have been treated as less competent at work.

Also studies generally seem to suggest that to be the case.

You know what? >>44409983 was right. This is pointless.

>>44410084
You didn't bring up a statistic. You asserted that suicide via a less effective method is not a geniuine attempt.

That's not a statistic. That's an assertion with no backing.

>>44410154
Talked to outside. Sorry

>>44410154
>Collective punishment? What punishment?
This level of gaslighting is so 2015 coded. But we're no longer in 2015, nona. In 2026 people (men AND women) caught up with this nonsense.
So, right back at you: Please recognize that most of what you think of as misogyny or chudness is a reaction to abuse by women both individually and socioculturally.

>>44410344
misandry isn’t a real thing, it’s 100% reactionary. women hate men because men rape, beat, kill, and oppress them and their sisters, men hate women because they think it’s their God given right to rule over them. women aren’t even allowed to go outside unsupervised in some countries, but sure, your life as a man in the west is so hard. boo fucking hoo.

>>44410344
Any way you can respond to my comments about material conditions?

Or are you actually saying that me getting SA's is just a response to people saying men suck? You can't be serious.

>>44410423
girl please don’t even interact with them, they’re trolls trying to get a rise out of you. you seem so sweet and kind it’s making me sad

>>44410423
>Or are you actually saying that me getting SA's is just a response to people saying men suck
No. I am saying that I flat out don't believe you.
Since you don't believe anything about the suffering of men, it's only fair that I treat your whining with the same level of empathy and consideration.
>women aren’t even allowed to go outside unsupervised in some countries
The "some countries" is in fact exactly one: Afghanistan. Which you americans voted to be handed over to the Taliban.
>misandry isn’t a real thing
And you want to be taken seriously? Lol.
Go fuck yourself, you subhuman retard.

>>44410418
>misandry isn’t a real thing
And you want to be taken seriously? Lol.
Go fuck yourself, you subhuman retard.
>women hate men because men rape, beat, kill, and oppress them and their sisters
Oh, I can play this game too.
Men hate women because women sexually abuse children and almost never get punished for it (see the sentencing gap), they take away men's children, they lobby against family court reform, leverage neoteny to inflict violence (usually via false allegations) and have murdered more children in the last 50 years than all the people that died in all of wars of all of human history combined. Women hate men because men no longer hold doors open for them and have started clawing back some of the immense unearned privileges awarded foolishly over the last 50 years. Men aren't even allowed to leave the country in some countries without approval from a majority-female commission, but sure, your life as a woman in the west is so hard. boo fucking hoo.

>>44410514
can you guys stop talking about stupid shit youll never agree on i wanna see the rest of the board

>>44410075
>anyone who doesn't subscribe to the most fringe and extremist beliefs about gender politics is not real
Keep doing this nonas. It's been a disaster since 2012-13 when this craziness started creeping into queer/fag spaces but hey, this time is different, lol.

>>44410514
there’s no way you actually think this.

>women sexually abuse children
even with any gap there may be in reports, men still commit far FAR more acts of pedophilia. super mega cope from a moid, as i would have thought.

>they take away men's children
most men aren’t suitable to father children. despite not being around kids even nearly as much as women they still do half of all child abuse (94% of child sexual abuse)

>murdered more children
abortion is not murder

> Men aren't even allowed to leave the country in some countries without approval from a majority-female commission
?????? what the fuck are you talking about??? i just tried to look this up for ten minutes straight and i couldn’t find a single thing. are you really just making shit up?

are you completely braindead or can you at least admit that men rape and kill more than women? you have to, right? there’s no way anyone can be this retarded and filled with copium

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>>44410589
>abortion is not murder
Yes it is. And in fact it's women who are more against abortion than men. Your privilege of murdering children quite literally relies on men.
>what the fuck are you talking about?
Look up a place called Ukraine.
>can you at least admit that men rape and kill more than women? you have to, right?
Men definitely kill more than women. I do not however believe at all that men rape more than women. I do believe the vast majority of women's sex crimes are uninvestigated and intentionally downplayed.
Stuff like the one shown in picrel has been known for over a decade and exactly zero women have been punished for it.
Source for picrel: page 5 of this PDF https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry12.pdf
You can call me as many names as you want, idgaf. You are part of the problem. Your ideas are toxic and based on outright falsehoods.
Women are not angels. Women stink, rape, murder, sexually assault and provoke violence just like everyone else. But because of overwhelming pro-female bias, we just weren't paying much attention to it until very recently.

>>44410858
>data is only from juvenile facilities
very cohesive information! definitely intellectually sound and honest to be drawing conclusions about 50% of the population from a single field of employment that is specifically renowned for abuse, both towards employees of either sex, and from employees of either sex. only very intelligent people use a single field of employment to judge the moral character of 50% of the population

>the vast majority of women's sex crimes are uninvestigated and intentionally downplayed
and even more men go uninvestigated and intentionally downplayed. your statement can be true, but in the context of whether or not men or women are more likely to be sexual abusers, it's meaningless, because on average, men just outright commit more sex crimes, and many/most get away with it, even when it IS reported.

>>44410514
>leverage neoteny to inflict violence
>via false allegations
ok, what if the kids in the prisons (convicted of felonies) are making false allegations, leveraging neoteny?
without anything definitive (confession, footage, physical evidence, witness testimony), rape allegations, by their nature, are insanely difficult to prove or disprove

>men aren't even allowed to leave the country without approval from a majority-female commission)
mindblowingly insane thing to say with no citations, genuinely unfathomable
>>44410858
>Ukraine
a country under active invasion that has active conscription is not a useful example, and its also a lone example. also, men not being allowed to leave the ukraine because of conscription doesn't mean that like, a cabal or "commission of women" is behind it - the fuckin country is in full scale war repelling an invasion. of course they're not letting potential defenders leave. that's not a woman caused problem at all, blame the men at the top of the political chain for arranging that one

people like you are fascinating. are you eligible for a disability pension? because you should be

>>44411550
>is not a useful example
Why not? It's the perfect example of female privilege. All women get to leave, men are actively forbidden.
>doesn't mean that like, a cabal or "commission of women" is behind it
The commissions that allow waivers from TCK are overwhelmingly female. Where do you think women in the Ukrainian military work? It's definitely not where it's dangerous.
>that's not a woman caused problem at all
Yes, it is. The current Ukrainian parliament is the most foided in the country's history. And the ruling party (the one that gets to call all the shots) is even more foided than the median for all the other parties in Ukraine.
>anyone who disagrees with my extremism is handicapped
These insults might have worked in 2015, but not now. YOU are the insane one and everyone already knows it. That's why your dopey opinions lose on the ballot box consistently and will continue to lose.
>ok, what if the kids in the prisons (convicted of felonies) are making false allegations, leveraging neoteny?
Thank you for proving my point that there is no reason whatsoever to believe women when they whine about anything.
When a woman alleges rape, she should be treated with the exact same level of empathy and care as you treat raped boys in a prison: with contempt, skepticism and less than zero empathy.
We actually agree.
>your statement can be true, but in the context of whether or not men or women are more likely to be sexual abusers, it's meaningless, because on average, men just outright commit more sex crimes
No, it's not meaningless. The reason you can assert that men commit more sex crimes is because women's sex crimes are rarely investigated and nearly never punished.
I simply do not believe men commit more sex crimes. I will believe it when women's sex crimes are prosecuted with the same vigor and cultural awareness as men's sex crimes. And also the same tolerance is awarded to men when they lie about being raped by a woman. Until then? Absolutely not.

>>44411620
>why not?
it's a single country, you can't draw conclusions about 50% of the population from 1 country under extreme and irregular circumstances
>when a woman alleges rape... care as you treat raped boys in a prison
i don't treat raped boys in prison that way. it's a hypothetical - if you assume women and girls are faking it, i propose "well what if men and boys are faking it, too", and then you say "AHA, exactly, that proves women are faking it! we should treat women worse!!!" you don't give a fuck about those boys, you just want to fucking hate women, dawg! you're not here because you have sincere and thought out political beliefs reasoned from a combination of base principles and facts, you're here to rant and rave about women. you keep saying women lie, but use data that is based entirely on self reporting? you can't come to your conclusion unless you started with your conclusion of hating women, and picked around that. the study itself, if you actually read the whole thing, actually explicitly mentions that the survey had difficulties because some of the kids were lying and not giving serious answers! there's several paragraphs talking about it, and how it complicates the data! you'd realise this if you had any integrity, because you'd have actually read the fucking paper lmao
>the reason you can assert that men commit more sex crimes is because women's sex crimes are rarely investigated and nearly never punished
well if there's no useful data on it, anything could be true, i guess! men's sex crimes could also not be getting investigated and punished, too, and in even greater numbers!
all we have is the numbers we have - statistically, men simply commit more sex crimes. if you assert that its because women's sex crimes are not being investigated, i can say the same thing about men. you're asserting a negative, i can just assert my own negative, and we're at square one.

>>44411719
>you keep saying women lie, but use data that is based entirely on self reporting
Yes, because men's self-reporting is more reliable.
It's a known issue that women lie way more and as a matter of routine. Women lie about anything and everything as often as they breathe.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8982912/

>>44411741
you actually haven't read that paper, have you?
you really just read the title and assumed it came to the conclusion that "women lie more", didn't you?
you hate women so much, you read the title of a paper about gendered differences in lying, and assumed its conclusion was that women lied more (because that's what you already believe), so you didn't actually read the paper to see what the results actually were, then posted it

>>44411620
>I simply do not believe men commit more sex crimes
you genuinely need to kill yourself right now. you're a fundamentally broken person who has to rope as soon as possible

>>44411799
>you're a fundamentally broken person
that's rich coming from someone who believes western foids are an oppressed group.
nobody is more fundamentally broken than western leftist women.
the good news is that the Earth will be rid of you and your insane ideas by the 2070s at the latest. You don't reproduce, you repulse the vast majority of both men and women and you're finally being investigated for your crimes as well which will reduce your numbers in polite society even further <3

>>44411793
>>44411741
i want to preempt your reply

men are reported in that paper both as lying more, especially for self gain at expense of another, and also as more persuasive liars.

maybe you meant "better at self reporting" because they accurately judged their own ability to lie, but that's massively insignificant relative to being "more persuasive" and also just... outright lying more?
and "more persuasive" doesn't mean due to personal skill on behalf of the liar - who knows what subconscious cultural biases the subjects of that study have picked up - maybe they are reflections of a society that views men as more believable and women as less believable, even when the numbers show who actually is doing
>more lies
>more malicious lies
and
>who's lies are believed more
the answer in the study is men, men, men

so you either
a) didn't read the paper, and have no fuckin clue what you're talking about and are just chudding out brain-damage style
b) are a malicious actor deliberately lying trying to spread little chudette slopaganda
c) both of the above

>>44411822
menschen wie du werden aus dem gesichte der welt gereinigt. schlecter als untermenschen
you will be put down like a senile dog, because all you do is shit yourself and make loud pathetic noises. a just world would have you being scraped from the underside of a boot like feces

>>44410446
Thank you. I am going to give up on this. I honestly can't understand this person, making false assertions about countries, statistics, and taking confusing positions where they don't believe what I say because "women are liars" while claiming to be a woman herself. Does that make her a liar?

I just don't understand. But I did try my best. Thank you for your kindness in telling me to stop.

>>44411992
if women are liars and she's claiming to be a woman, maybe she's just coping and telling herself she soul passes

>>44408486
>>44412006

Ironic that the most important thing I learned from this whole debate is that trans women who hate cis women also hate trans women who disagree.

>>44412044
>saying this while openly hating trans women who disagree
>also saying this while ignoring >>44411937 who spreads Nazi slogans about those who disagree with them
I love this website. Endless free-of-charge entertainment <3
Way better than most pay-per-view services.

>>44412087
>>44411822
^ this person actively wishing for mass killings of people that disagree with them. is it only bad when the language it's written in is german? anglos got a hallpass on mass extermination?
the german is also directed towards someone who wished death on them first, so like. first come first served kinda thing? idk, if someone wished death on me, i'd maybe curse them in my mother tongue, too

>>44412131
>wishing for mass killings of people
Actually no. Nowhere in my comment did I mention mass killings.
What I did mention is that by 2070s you will all be dead (I assume you're all mid 20s and median life expectancy is mid 70s) and because you don't reproduce and you repulse the vast majority of people, you will also gradually be excised from polite society. And since your crimes are being investigated, some of you will also go to prison (thus out from polite society).
Mass murder is so last century. You will be excised from polite society by biology, the rule of law and your fundamentally offputting ideas and personalities.
Do you genuinely think you're immortal?
There were multiple crazy totalitarians who thought they'd rule for 1000 years. None of their ideas survived even a single century. Your brand of crazy shit won't either.

>>44412087
>saying this while openly hating trans women who disagree
Where did I demonstrate hating anybody at all?

>also saying this while ignoring >>44411937 who spreads Nazi slogans about those who disagree with them

I don't actually see what A has to do with B here. Someone treating me in a hatefully manner, calling me a liar, mocking my suicide attempt, my experiences of sexual violence, etc. Has absolutely nothing to do with anything >>44411937 did. This is deflection plain and simple.