i believe that AGP is a thing that exists but thats about as far as my belief in blanchardist theory goes. its kinda crazy to me how many people here take it as fact whether they be chuds or trannies.especially when someone tells me or someone else what i am/they are, as in "u are actually this thing and u cant say otherwise".>inb4 "ur a seething AGP"this is what im talking about. its so hard to take this stuff seriously largely because the people that "believe" in it only do so because its a good way to insult people because calling someone a pervert fetishist is a good insult and a good way to dismiss whatever they say.if i didnt find the theory behind this set of beliefs itself ridiculous then the entirety of it basically being reduced to insults and buzzwords by most of the people who claim to believe in it would be the thing that puts me off ever wanting to understand it.i think most(not all, im not including actual agps)of you who preach this stuff only do so to compensate for ur low self esteem by making up something to feel superior about or just to use it as a tool to own people(which is basically the first thing but whatever im too tired to write more stuff)rant over! im probably not gonna reply to anything(partly bc ill sleep soon but i also just dont care enough)but feel free to add something relevant to the thread if u like, i might read it and im sure there will be people who will wanna argue about whatever u say
because you aren't a fem gay man and you don't grasp how rare it is to be a fem gay man but how COMMON that is amongst "trans women" so as to merit a whole grouping, given how diff flamboyant gay men are from autistic bisexual men (agps) - behaviorally
You're upset and in denial, we understand.
>>44410194keep coping ig
>>44410194You shouldn't take it seriously, but it is pretty funny.
>>44410194>calling someone a pervert fetishist is a good insultSee you feel this way bc you automatically think AGP is an insult when it’s just describing sexual behavior common among trannies
actual schematisation blachardism according to trannies agp=cringe trannyhsts=passoid blanchardism according to Blanchardhsts=wouldagp=wouldn't other than that, it's a fun slur to throw around
>>44410242how is it a slurim agp and im not ashamed of it
>>44410242what are agp passoids called
>>44410242again, you cannot acknowledge that gay men are overrepresented among "trans women" this is the actual basic issueits not about being hot or looking femaleits about how rare only ONLY liking men and acting naturally girly is in men overall, but how common it is in "trans women" and how different those "trans women" tend to act from bisexual "trans women"
>>44410256>>44410257>>44410261wow I just don't care tehehe
agp and hsts are real, but neither of them are truly transsexual. agp are autistic men with a fetish and hsts are gay men who trooned due to internal or external homophobia. hsts are a dying breed now that gay marriage is more broadly legal and homosexuality is less frowned upon but you still see the occasional one like Blaire White, though they're more common in countries where being gay is still against the law.
>>44410194i'm a jewish chaser and I believe in it
>>44410278when is someone considered truly transsexual
>>44410278> now that gay marriage is more broadly legal and homosexuality is less frowned upon>social acceptance on paper is the same thing as social acceptance in reality>a court rubber stamping gay marriages means nobody finds flamboyant gay men icky anymore and wouldn't bully them ever againyou people are beyond retarded but I realize ideology has consumed your brain
>>44410294intersex condition
>>44410278That's not what Blanchard said.
>>44410294when your transition is not sexually motivated
>>44410300that's what I said. blanchard is stupid
>>44410301den why is sexual in the name huh?
>>44410310Blanchard was the closest to correct yet
should we just kill all agps
>>44410333why is society so ok with gay men castrating themselves?its weird how the same people who claim gays are accepted also believe these people who are ok with gays don't see an issue with gays castrating themselvesyou live in a black hole of dissonance
>>44410349society doesn't care if anyone with a penis is castrated, wake up gay man
>>44410194> “i am smart”
>>44410194You believe that AGP is a thing that exists, but at the same time you don't believe it, or you just don't believe there's another type of trannies (homosexual trannies) and they are all AGP? What part of the core of blanchard's theory or classification is crazy and non-believable to you? You look confused...
I'll tell you something: I don't believe in AGP. There's no way for AGP to exist. It is at most a wish, an ideation, not a description of a reality. Because males can't become females, and the more feminized they are the less sexual they are, so even their supposed autogynephilia would go away if they would really become gyne (female). But since they're actually feminized andro (males), the more precise and realistic term to describe their sexual feelings is autogynandromorphophilia (AGAMP).
>>44410202I was bullied for years for being effeminate and seeming gay even when I was completely closeted, and I don't think agp/hsts is a real distinction
>>44410242In actual fact the schematisation of the difference between agp and hsts is this: agp = heterosexual/bisexual men hsts = gay menIt's the sexual attraction (or lack of attraction) to women the defining factor
>>44411165AGP as a concept (especially in opposition to hsts as if they are two binary and polar opposite categories with no inbetweens) is a heterosexualization of these guys reality. It's like saying that these guys are attracted by the women they'd become — a total imaginary thing, an illusion that never come to be — not by their own feminization or by their feminized selves, whatever. That would made them AGAMP, not AGP. It's considering an imaginary heterosexuality (with a "twisted aim") in a higher regard and more real than their actual homosexual behavior, since most of them go with other trannies, not with women. AGP is compulsory heterosexuality in tranny words, it says in its very wrong concept that these guys should be straight if they were not trannies, because "they are heterosexual", when they are in fact at least bisexual.
>>44411319There's no AGP. There's no male that becomes a female. They are all AGAMP actually.
