niggers are smelly, loud, annoying, obnoxious, dangerous and often criminal individuals who extremely disproportionally commit violence and rape, especially directed against lgbt people.

>>44411293
Fair enough, I’m trying to see varying viewpoints, this all was sparked by a tw**t (i know) about a trans woman calling a black woman a slur. With this same line of thinking would it be justifiable for black people discriminate against whites based on historical background and personal experience?

>>44411266
solidarity is an in-group preference. LGBT has solidarity due to shared goals, longstanding mutual support, and most importantly, mutual enemies.

i'll support black people as much as i feel motivated to so so by my sense of ethics, but im sure as fuck not changing my weekend plans for a group that by and large dont support me.

>>44411333
>With this same line of thinking would it be justifiable for black people discriminate against whites based on historical background and personal experience?
nta but niggers have been doing exactly this for decades already with the full backing of the State. What's your point?
Btw, black women have a higher murder rate than white men. It absolutely is justified to stay away from niggers.
Around blax, never relax. That simple. Especially as a fag or troon.

>>44411333
they already do that. their entire culture since being freed from slavery (by white men who fought and killed other white men for the privilege of freeing) has been to blame whitey for all of their problems when they in reality have lived and always will live 100x better in america than their genetic relatives living in africa. that's why they refuse to ever go back there.

>>44411343
> i'll support black people as much as i feel motivated to so so by my sense of ethics, but im sure as fuck not changing my weekend plans for a group that by and large dont support me.

I can agree anon, this is basically how I feel about white queers/lgbt people. I respect others and their freedom to enact their rights but I wouldn’t bat or over sympathize with a group that obviously would not consider giving decency towards those who aren’t like them.

>>44411350
Yes, I know but I was curious if anons would find that to be justified as much their own viewpoint. I don’t condone, violence, homophobia, transphobia or racism btw

>>44411381
This seems like standard chud reasoning (i don’t necessarily mean that in a demeaning sense just that seems to be a common belief on right wing parts of the net). It’s nice to speak with others because I get other perspectives even I disagree and I do in this case, why shouldn’t black Americans discuss the injustices they faced the US was an apartheid state that subjugated and halted black growth and essentially had us as a slave class even after emancipation. Also I don’t get the argument of telling black Americans to leave this is their home just as much as anybody who’s grandparents immigrated in the ‘30s

One of my really good friends is a 50-something year old black guy who grows shrooms in Florida. He's not politically correct, but he's a good guy with a big heart who doesnt care who or what you are, as long as you aren't a garbage person. Met him irl once and he and his wife were super cool to me and my gf (also a tranny). So I will always love that guy and defend him whenever needed

I've also had some acquaintances in tbe past that are black that were miserable people with a homophobic/transphobic chip on their shoulder. One in particular was a part of my bar scene group. He ended up being an abuser, his cis gf told me about it after a rough night and I offered her to stay at my place. She ended up making a move on me and we hooked up for a couple weeks. He found out and tried to literally put me in the hospital over something that was ultimately his fault to begin with

So, just like any other group of people, the black community has nuance and we can't label every black person as a piece of shit because of one experience with one person. I would hate for somebody to assume that just because im a tranny that means that i want to infiltrate women's bathrooms to perv out, when in reality I used to use the men's room all the way up until I was sexually assaulted in the bathroom by some drunk yuppie asshole at 1am. I'm going to the women's room because I look enough like a woman to fit in there, and because I have to pee. If i wanted to be a pervert I could get so much more creative than that, lol

black people really think they are the center of the universe holy fucking shit EVERYTHING has to be about them and how they are the saddest most oppressed little retards
>what causes this
their generally obnoxious behavior and propensity to violent crime

>>44411413
>why shouldnt we
this is exactly why youre universally despised. you think because your ancestors from almost a dozen generations ago (with how fast you subhumans breed) were subjected to unfair conditions that you have to the right to not only complain endlessly about it for all time, but are also extremely keen on shoving that grievance constantly into places where nobody wants it. in the end it all just boils down to wanting mo shit. what exactly do you want out of this "discussion of injustices" anyway? can you even articulate it? or do you just want whites to capitulate to your demands and bow down because of some fucked up race revenge story like almost everyone else like you. you're not special. every race has been enslaved, treated badly, treated as second class somewhere. whites are being treated as such in america right now, if you haven't noticed. every where you look, it's niggers and browns. it's been that way for 15 fucking years. schools have been indoctrinated with your slop for decades longer than that, which is why you're even having this discussion. you've won. you can live forever for free just by being black. you can commit any violent crime and get off with a sentence decades more lenient than you deserve. what more do you fucking want? what social pinnacle can your race climb to that you haven't reached in the past 10 years?

>>44411431
This was a nice story to read, I also never got the bathroom issue as long at you compose yourself use the washroom for its intended purposes. I feel that a lot of people are sheltered and due to that have a narrow views of the world I don’t this is necessarily bad but becoming too narrow minded can inhibit understanding of the world. I don’t just mean it in a woke way let’s all get along, but interrogating as to why others may feel a certain way and why individually you’re led to certain beliefs is beneficial imo. I don’t think I would have been as respectful of trans people and other lgbtq people if I wasn’t fortunate to have positive experiences with them, if the only girl in school that was friendly and kind towards me wasn’t trans maybe I would be more privy to falling into ignorance and prejudice.

>>44411387
i know you're baiting me, but whatever ill bite
your choice of words is specifically
> a group that obviously would not consider giving decency towards those who aren’t like them
you're saying that you believe white queers, as a collective, would not support anyone not "like them". Are you aware that MOST white people dont live in the united states?
You're categorically refusing to ever support me or my interests based on nothing but my race, while simultaneously expecting me to meddle in foreign politics to end the racist discrimination targeting you. That's the definition of not giving someone basic decency based on their race. if you wont treat me as deserving the same dignity as you then of course i wont make any special effort to support your interests.

>>44411266
I've never had a problem with them so it makes zero sense for me to hate them, saying "nigger" is pretty funny tho.

>>44411493
I'm gay and I experience niggers being loud rude and annoying constantly and when I do I think of people like you who would deny my experiences out of hand. I wish you people could be around ghetto niggers. They are not human.

>>44411502
I'm not denying your experience, I just haven't shared it myself.

Black people are incredibly more transphobia than trans people are racist yet you never see people call out transphobia in the black community or whatever.
I've already talked about this but black ppl being entrenched and having a large political base and political power in the USA means they have the means to push the idea they are le most oppressed which is of course ridiculous. They're not even the most oppressed racial minority, Mexicans and whatever brown ppl get sent to concentration camps ffs
Of course by posting here you're acting in a manner so as to prove your point since chuds hang out here and love to larp as trannies anonymously to push their agenda + that's also the place where the extreme minority of racist trannies hang out.
Either way, stfu.

>>44411479
>Are you aware that MOST white people dont live in the united states?
nta but no, OP is not aware of that.
The American Negro is just like all americans: they literally believe the whole world is one giant United Shits of America and that everyone has to give a shit about their petty marginal issues and consider those issues of equal importance to truly global issues.
>white queers, as a collective, would not support anyone not "like them"
OP/that anon of course is not aware that there are more trannies in a single county in Brazil than all of Europe and North America combined and most of those are not white.
American blacks in particular genuinely think their racism is okay.
>>44411387
>I don’t condone, violence, homophobia, transphobia or racism btw
This is a lie. You absolutely do condone racism ITT in fact. You just think your racism is acceptable while any response to your racism is chuddery.

>>44411438
Black culture has been propagated and exposed to the world and evidently is quite popular. Also not to be over egotistical but some chuds seems to have an almost fetishistic obsession with us.

>>44411454
> this is exactly why youre universally despised
We’re disliked due to our phenotype, poverty, and subjugation. If blackness wasn’t associated with squalor, disease, famine, ignorance and ugliness we’d be more respected. It’s not that blacks have committed crimes so unimaginable and grotesque that it leads others to have a distaste from us, it’s our lack of contribution to the world separate of the arts. This is all our fault btw we’re aware this and still choose to whine instead of becoming woke to the way of the world. Also idc cares if america is becoming browner, this argument is more sympathetic towards Europe. Europeans did in fact outline the basis for what would become the United States but what gives them the right to prohibit what all nations must experience (demographic change)

>>44411516
Because you aren't even around them much or the ones you are are the hyper-filtered kind trying to act normal as best they can in public.
Blacks are a menace to society and were enslaved for a good reason.

imagine if one third or more of trannies actually were gorillahon perverts who were following women into the bathroom and licking the toilet after they piss instead of it being an extreme edge case. then consider the fact that one third of negro males goes to prison (justly) at least once in their lifetime.

>>44411531
>what gives them the right to prohibit what all nations must experience (demographic change)
maybe i misread that, but what european nation is NOT currently becoming browner? europeans are currently the MOST subject to demographic change of any culture not currently undergoing an active genocide

>>44411479
Fair enough, I do have some bias against white queer individuals (white queers in America as others have mentioned) based on experiences in the past. In future I will consider being more specific with my wording. My belief as more accurately stated would be hesitance to extend dramatic sympathy towards those would discriminate me over immutable characteristics.

>>44411522
I should have specified that I was referring to relations in the US yes. I appreciate your commentary anon this truthfully has allowed me to have wider perspective. I’ll conceed that my statement was poorly written and perhaps even prejudiced. Instead of grouping white queer individuals I’ll be sure to specify racist white queers and racists in general.

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>>44411539
>Because you aren't even around them much
I live in an eastern european shithole lol, yeah I'm not around them much besides occasional visiting foreigners visiting.

>>44411266
Black people (specifically black Americans) are for the most part unempathetic racial supremacists, speaking as a half nigga

Black people don't support LGBTs because that's Buck Breaking and racist.

>>44411633
I hate niggers so goddamn much. We should send them all to Eastern Europe. You miserable Russian fucks can deal with them from now on.

>>44411596
>it is inconceivable an actual gay person would truly hate niggers from living in one of america's nigger filled cities

>>44411549
Europe is getting browner yes but what I was referring to is the notion that a lot of white Americans feel entitled to American soil. This probably going to be one of my woker takes and unpopular but we’re allowed to disagree. White Americans (just like most major groups) do not hold indigeneity to the US and many who complain about immigrants are also immigrants themselves who’ve assimilated. I don’t think increased immigration (which is now becoming increasingly more difficult) will tremendously negatively impact the country. You could make the argument of the US being successful due to European influence and I wouldn’t disagree. However I believe that America is already deeply trenched in the global power hierarchy and that the majority of immigrants will eventually assimilate. Mexicans do labor intensive work, and while they contribute to crime seem exceedingly appreciative to being a reliable labor resource. + I don’t mind hearing Spanish outdoors.

>>44411651
Hey I never said I like niggers, just that I don't have a particular problem with them. They're your citizens, you deal with them.

>>44411651
>We should send them all to Eastern Europe
NTA but if you try that we'll be sending our gypsies your way.
Oh, wait, that'd actually be an improvement for you.
Okay, we'll send you the russians.
The reason "nigger" is not a racial slur in eastern Europe is because we know first hand that nigger is a socio-behavioral descriptor, not a racial one. Most russians are very similar to your ghetto blacks (and occasionally worse, though thanks to the war, that part is now sealed off in russia itself).

>>44411674
you take them off our hands and you can see how wonderful they truly are

Alright, thank you to those who have contributed to my threads I’m going to have a nap, I’ll probably back in few hours.

>>44411531
>some chuds seems to have an almost fetishistic obsession with us.
yeah that may happen when you make it impossible to get away from you.

>>44411674
>>44411679
This person is irate and unsound, I’m not certain of what he’s trying to convey

>>44411665
they're not being forced to assimilate anymore so they're not assimilating anymore. open your eyes.

>>44411685
Oh please, if you avoid the South (which was and still is segregated) and major cities (which were redlined) you can live in majority white communities very easily, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco all have low populations of African Americans and are all major cities

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>>44411697
>This person
Which one, anon?
I was pretty clear: sending niggers here (in eastern europe) and getting our gypsies in return would be an objective improvement for the US. The worst gypsies are super tame compared to most well-behaved blacks.
I was replying to that anon that a fairer trade would be that we get to send the russians if we have to take in the american blacks.
ofc, it's all a shitpost. I can't imagine american blacks ever learning Polish or Lithuanian or god forbid Hungarian. They barely manage illiterate english (aka ebonics).

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>>44411704
>the South (which was and still is segregated)
bollocks. the North is more segregated than the south in every aspect.
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/education/southern-schools-are-found-be-least-racially-segregated
this is easy to intuit as well. the North enforced "integration" at gunpoint on the South while the North never even tried to do any form of integration.
It's really a very known issue that the north lags way behind the south in terms of any meaningful integration - https://www.wsj.com/us-news/chicago-vs-dallas-why-the-north-lags-behind-the-south-and-west-in-racial-integration-11657936680

>>44411718
I refused to respond to his post in solidarity (jk) the anon who is being profusely antagonistic towards blacks.

> I can't imagine american blacks ever learning Polish or Lithuanian or god forbid Hungarian
Never say never there are some autists who have hyper specific interests. You’re right in my case I’ll settle for reading Slavic authors

>>44411728
The north being more segregated doesn’t dispute the fact that the south was also segregated. Interesting citations though anon I appreciate them.

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>>44411704
when I was growing up there was 2 black people in my school with a graduating class of 1600. Today I see people in durags every day when I leave the house. They are being put everywhere by policies that let them live everywhere for free because you're not allowed to say they're bad ideas locally or else you're known as the town racist. which means bye bye any and all opportunity in your community.

>>44411739
>Never say never there are some autists who have hyper specific interests
I'm pretty sure there are.
But most americans (not just most black americans) are notoriously terrible with any foreign language. Americans can't even be bothered to learn Spanish even though it's one of the de facto official languages of the US (most states issue official papers in Spanish these days). So I think I'm reasonable when I assume that most americans (black or not) would seriously struggle with Hungarian or Lithuanian which are several orders of magnitude harder to learn than Spanish.
>I’ll settle for reading Slavic authors
Some Slavic authors are fine to read in English translation. Others (like Taras Shevchenko or Dostoevski) are significantly lost in translation, so much so that people who don't read them in original can honestly be said about them that they read an entirely different work.

>>44411757
To be fair, hungarian sounds like an absolute nightmare to learn regardless of your starting point.

>>44411746
But it does dispute your assertion that this is still true today. It simply isn't true anymore. Dallas is not segregated at all while Chicago is more segregated in 2026 than the South was under Jim Crow.

>>44411764
Hungarian (and Finmish and Estonian) aren't even indo-european. It has more in common with tribal Obugric and was written in runes (not to be confused with the viking runes).
It has 27 cases (even worse than Finnish) and its vocabulary is a mixture of tribal concepts and russian, Romanian, Persian, late Turkish, early Turkish, some Qazaq/Azeri, some Serbian and a lot of asynchronous concatenations.
I live next to Hungary and get exposed to it daily. In 10 years I barely got to basic conversational level. And I speak 9 languages fluently.
Lithuanian is the worst of indo-european ones. It's the only indo-european language that heavily emphasizes the indo part with straight up Sanskrit words and grammar. Total nightmare.

>>44411766
I’ll concede that point I’m a northerner so if you hail from the south your experience trumps mine you’ve also seemed to have done research. I do know that many majority black cities and and communities have thrived in the south compared Atlanta, Georgia to Frankfort, Kentucky

>>44411773
Out of curiosity what other languages do you speak? Lithuanian, Hungarian and English make three.

>>44411773
>I speak 9 languages fluently
You sound insanely gifted in languages, I can barely manage Romanian and English.

>>44411757
Yes, it’s unfortunate we’re so monolingual and Slavic languages do seem to be further apart than say, French, Spanish and German which all did have major communities here but assimilated in speaking the common tongue.

> Some Slavic authors are fine to read in English translation. Others (like Taras Shevchenko or Dostoevski) are significantly lost in translation, so much so that people who don't read them in original can honestly be said about them that they read an entirely different work.

I’ve heard similar comments I enjoyed Dostoevski, once I have more free time I can properly examine his work in context. Not sure if I love him enough to learn Russian

>>44411782
>Lithuanian, Hungarian and English make three.
No, I don't speak Lithuanian. And I don't count Hungarian as a language that I speak because I'm at a basic level (A2, let's say). If I count like that, then I speak 14 languages lol.
Fluently: English, russian, Ukrainian, French, Romanian, Italian, Spanish (rusty spelling tho), Swedish and Norwegian.
Basic/definitely not fluently: Hungarian, Polish, German, Arabic and Turkish
The latter list is s a stretch because I can't spell in Arabic (learned it on the streets), Polish I speak it intuitively (I "think" in Ukrainian and then phrase it in a more complex way and that's usually correct in Polish) and german I picked it up because it's basically a combination of english, norwegian and swedish.
Picked up some Turkish because I did some commerce there in my youth and Hungarian because, as I said, I live next to them.

>>44411790
Dacă știi română e super simplu să înveți spaniolă, italiană, franceză și portugheză.
Dacă știi engleză, e ușor să le înveți pe alea scandinave (dar nu și finlandeză).
These things are interconnected. Sometimes I joke that I actually speak 4 languages. All the others are derivatives.
I'm thinking of picking up Old Church Slavonic. With that plus russian and Ukrainian I can then immediately crack all the others, minus the nightmarish spelling of Polish.

>>44411812
I feel like I can almost understand Dutch and Italian especially if they speak slowly. I tried to learn Spanish and French and never managed either, but I'm lazy notoriously lazy.

>>44411804
Good on you anon, I’m guessing you learned due to combo of utility and interest, yes? Any languages you’re interested in traversing that you haven’t learned yet?

>>44411825
Dutch is easy in writing but spoken Dutch is a nightmare (just like Danish) because of the really odd pronunciation.
With French the grammar is basically like Romanian. It's really not that hard.
>>44411834
>utility and interest
Well, yeah. And while I certainly do have a knack for foreign languages, it's actually very common in Europe for people to speak 3 or 4 languages. And near universal for people to speak two (usually native and French/English/russian/German).
>Any languages you’re interested in traversing that you haven’t learned yet?
Arabic. I wish I had the time to become way better in Arabic. And the final boss: Mandarin.
French, English, Spanish, russian, Arabic and Mandarin (in this order!) are enough to get along on 95%+ of Earth.
Realistically I'll probably never learn Mandarin though. But I'll probably be fluent in Arabic in another decade or so since the Middle East is nearby and I'll probably be around Arabic-speaking people quite a lot.

>>44411867
Yeah I really would like to learn French and Mandarin, if not for the cognitive stimulation but for the job opportunities. Learning a different language is one of the few ways to genuinely effortmax at life. The amount of job opportunities I've received for just knowing English and growing up in America is insane.

>>44411595
then im glad we could reach mutual understanding through dialogue. i also hate americans, they deserve what they get

>>44411665
i think you should be careful invoking "indigeneity" like this. if white people have no indigeneity to the land they're born in, but do have authority over it regardless, the logical conclusion is to reject indigeneity outright and claim all authority is derived by conquest. things get very ugly if that happens, and i dont think any of us want to see it go that way, but i cant say how people will react if it does get pushed to the point where that's the last card left in the deck.

Im pro immigration, but my country has extremely extortionate and unethical immigration policies that make us one of the only nations in the world to actually profit from immigration outright. if i were american i would oppose it because your system does not contain any kind of quality control and your law enforcement and criminal justice systems cannot correct for it

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>>44411266
I think this comes from white people's need to infantilize themselves next to darker skinned people, so they seem more innocent than they are
>uwu please forget our demographic was responsible for beating you to death if you didn't work for us, and then putting laws in place so that your life was overall shittier!
Meanwhile same demographic literally brought transphobia to Africans via forced religious conversion and slavery (they don't want to talk about how Africans had different ideals regarding trans and intersex people before colonization)

>>44411266
ytpepo just put their heads down in shame and leave quickly once they've nutted in your ass. with niggers it's 50/50 as to whether they'll chimp out and beat the shit out of you afterwards to prove they're not gay.

>>44411266
Blacks commit more violent crime than all of LGBT together. Acting like both groups are anything alike is unironically homophobia/transphobia.

>>44412168
commiting regular everyday crimes vs enslaving people for 200 years

>>44412233
>regular everyday crimes
Are you saying you rape and murder people daily?

>>44412168
Phobia this, phobia that.
>>44412233
> enslaving for 200 years
What's wrong with it?
> people
This part is funny.
We did that just by the right of power. We should do that again, just inside of their coutries, never letting them inside of our ones.
>>44411266
Trans rights are white rights. Speaking not viciously funny - they're just uneducated degenerates.

Immigration could be nice and based, but should be only for whites.

>>44412302
Why are you infantilizing yourself next to le big scary black people?

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>>44411266
The left sold fairy tales about how all oppressed people come together. People are more complex than that. Whether they "should" is irrelevant here. To begin with, why would a white man who fucks other white men in the ass (or wants to be fucked in the ass) have to be associated with black people? The latter are just a group of people categorized under one race who may share different viewpoints, lifestyles or beliefs, while the former are basically sexual lifestylers looking to get a better hand in life (and many have succeeded at this).
>both are oppressed
The white gay man or tranny is oppressed as a matter of his sexual proclivities and/or personal habits, not his phenotype or class position. He is not obliged to develop empathy to those of different races, classes, etc, it just doesn't really come up. In turn, only the most well-off societies in the world can even afford to be truly welcoming toward homosexuality or transgenderism. LGBT rights are a luxury in this world. Even if we throw out religion and sexual norms, transgenderism and homosexuality are either reproductive non-participation, or they give way to family units widely considered suboptimal (at best) by both white and black communities. It's not beneficial to a group of people who are already facing structural issues. If being LGBT were to fully be accepted by the black community, their birth rates in the US would reduce even further as the "DL nigga" phenomenon became redundant. It would also decrease their HIV rates, so that's an upside, but since it's homophobic to talk about how DL culture spreads STDs, that topic isn't broached.
The black community is both very religious and extremely skeptical of any extraneous traits that serve to bring even more oppression to their group. Even when they challenge normative society, their focus is on machismo and agitation toward the ruling powers, not tolerance and "free love". Also, gay men rape more than straight men, so men get scared.

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>>44412409
2/2
The other side of this is that in much the same way the white gay man or tranny has no inherent personal skin in allying with black people (besides what the left has told them, and the right rejecting them for being sodomites and groomers), the average straight black man is never obliged to develop empathy toward gay white men or trannies. LGBT rights stuff, especially for white people, just isn't relevant to their lives. From their point of view, at the end of the day, a socially deviant white person is still white and probably racist. All the white AGP nazi trannies of the modern day have made this even more apparent, too. On that note, many gen Z liberal black women who used to be pro-trans due to leftist messaging are becoming transphobic as a result of exposure to mentally ill white programmer AGPs (and the messy gay white queen friends getting weird about skinwalking). All that's left are wealthy, leftist black millenials who only really encountered HSTS and the quieter, previous-generation AGPs and consider being pro-LGBT ultimately affordable for their own community, and non-closeted LGBT black people who have no real choice but to ally with more powerful white LGBT people, whether they trust them or not. Both those groups are literally minorities in a minority, so you get the idea.
For a straight black person, members of their own community being gay or trans is weakness that must be shamed or stomped out for the already-threatened health of the collective, and members of the outgroup they've had the most social tension with being gay or trans is just more evidence that they are to be distrusted. Most white gay men and trannies don't understand this sort of raw "survival mode" thinking, so they just think black people are being pointlessly mean. Basically, neither group is actually forced to create cultural friendships or any sort of kinship on a real life, day to day level, so of course it's like this.

>>44412525
>Most white gay men and trannies don't understand this sort of raw "survival mode" thinking
What a ridiculous thing to say.

>>44412586
Lower class ones have some idea of it, but even then, being able to lie about being gay offers them protection from having to take on that particular mindset (or of being raised in it). There has never been any successful line of technology to detect whether someone is homosexual or transgender automatically, so there were never any "specialized faggot ghettos", "fag enslavement" or "fag redlining systems" in the US. It's a matter of maintaining secrecy, not of ailing over the existence of your entire group. If gay men and trannies understood it, we'd see more of them beating each other to death and shaming one another for engaging in behaviors that aren't heteronormative or sufficiently cis-passing, they'd be more Christian on average, there'd be drives to have obligatory straight sex and families in a bid to minimize reproduction-related opposition, etc. Instead, their focus is on freedom, tolerance, personal choice and love. These only become important on a collective level when your community is foundationally sound or well-off. Also, if it was an experience they understood and went through, they'd understand exactly why homophobic and transphobic black people act the way they do. They don't, because they can't, it isn't how their life goes and they don't have any black friends or family.
Middle and upper class white gay men don't understand or experience it at all. White gay men are also a very wealthy, powerful demographic in general.

>>44412605
>White gay men are also a very wealthy, powerful demographic
Because they worked for it more, harder and for far longer. And that's true only for a tiny portion. If you think the fag from Dumbfuckville, Louisiana is very wealthy or powerful, the problem is you. Most fags arent Peter Thiel for crying out loud.
But you are making a good case for why white gay men should continue to support the Right and the far Right. You're all straight up hateful yet you demand solidarity. Ridiculous!

>>44412624
>Also, if it was an experience they understood and went through, they'd understand exactly why homophobic and transphobic black people act the way they do
Turboridiculous.
So fags should tolerate niggers committing homophobic hate crimes because [insert pseudoacademic bullshit here] and on top of that they should also be grateful for it.
>If gay men and trannies understood it, we'd see more of them beating each other to death and shaming one another for engaging in behaviors that aren't heteronormative or sufficiently cis-passing, they'd be more Christian on average, there'd be drives to have obligatory straight sex and families in a bid to minimize reproduction-related opposition, etc. Instead, their focus is on freedom, tolerance, personal choice and love
So fags being smarter is a bad thing?
Neah, fuck you and every single retard who agrees with you.

>>44411266
you get all your info on lgbt people from 4chan or something?
we literally added trans and black/brown colours to the flag.

>>44412629
>Because they worked for it more, harder and for far longer.
A right wing whipping boy's fairy tale. Right wing, anti-tranny/gay black people say the same thing when faced with less successful white people, which is funny.
>But you are making a good case for why white gay men should continue to support the Right and the far Right. You're all straight up hateful yet you demand solidarity. Ridiculous!
I don't demand political solidarity with any collective, because it's been shown to be a sham, even on an inter-group level. I'm not even a black American, I just know a lot of you people and see how you operate. If you don't like the mirror, it can't be helped. You can trade one master for another and tell yourself "This one will treat me good!", but those same black people you're upset at are also on the right, along with the white people who don't like your sodomite ways and prefer cotton-pickers to sexual nonparticipants. Fags and negroes will always suffer, wherever they go, as a matter of the human condition.

>>44412661
No, I was just being a little baiting shit

>>44412639
>So fags should tolerate niggers committing homophobic hate crimes because [insert pseudoacademic bullshit here] and on top of that they should also be grateful for it.
You are hyper-emotional, like many women often are. Do you find yourself "stanning" female pop stars? I'm explaining your issues and why you don't get along. Like many monocultural, insular people, you are used to only thinking about your point of view, so this is a shock to you and comes off as mass betrayak. Reread the first line of my first post to understand what I'm actually saying. Explaining the reasons behind the racism in the LGBT is how I get called a faggot and/or fag enabler in any spaces with black people. You are both short-sighted.
>So fags being smarter is a bad thing?
Pure illiteracy.

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its almost like lgbt people can still exist in a racially homogeneous society free of crime and the only ones crying about it constantly are brown communist hons who want to import millions of abduls to behead us anyways

>>44411266
being racist is rational and ergo male-brained

it is a bedrock reality that most nons are dumber, more impulsive, more violent, etc on average

pretending otherwise doesn't make you more moral, enlightened or a woman, it just makes you a dummy

toxic empathy really fucked up society for the long-term

>>44412685
>I'm explaining your issues
No, you're not. You're explaining your insane worldview that only makes sense to turboautistic brown gigacommies and to literally nobody else.
>You are hyper-emotional, like many women often are
Calling me a woman doesn't change the fact that you're a supreme cretin.
>Fags and negroes will always suffer, wherever they go
An inconsistent supreme cretin, to be more precise.
First we're privileged and powerful, then we'll always suffer because [more word salad].
I reiterate: Fuck you and every single retard that agrees with you.

>>44412723
It's oikophobia. A supreme disdain for our own culture, people and way of life in favor of savages who want us all dead.
Stop calling it "toxic empathy". There's nothing empathetic in the cretinism pushed in comments like these >>44412624
>>44412525

>>44412737
>No, you're not. You're explaining your insane worldview that only makes sense to turboautistic brown gigacommies and to literally nobody else.
I'm anti-communism and not brown, either, kek. You're just throwing out buzzwords, I'm sorry for any ego damage my posts caused. Homosexual and transgender people are statistically more likely to be autistic, so now you're even attacking your own kind.
Again, you're getting upset because you wanted only one view, the one that victimizes you like you're a child. If you were straight, you'd be just as ignorant.
>Calling me a woman doesn't change the fact that you're a supreme cretin.
I didn't say you were a woman?
>First we're privileged and powerful, then we'll always suffer because [more word salad].
Why wouldn't privileged people suffer? Only SJWs think rich and powerful people don't get abused or treated worse by those higher on the totem pole, and that they can't get cut. Your worldview basically implies homophobia doesn't even exist (and the things you said about "working harder" are moot). That actually would be a fun opinion to see a right wing gay person take on, so please do adopt it.
>I reiterate: Fuck you and every single retard that agrees with you.
It's really not my fault that you're illiterate, or that my posts harmed you emotionally. Maybe try some xanax and read about the history of your own country and how it's treated both of you. You won't, because the American literacy rate is rapidly declining. Life goes on, and your country falls apart.

>>44412747
I don't want anyone dead, and I enjoy western culture? You sound kind of unhinged

>>44412787
Noooo you’re supposed to be self centered and only consider yourself, you are owed respect and consideration by others but you don’t have to be kind towards those who are beneath you

>>44412302
Trying too heard

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>>44411266
muh crime statistics or some other standard albino cave monkey cope, if i had to guess

>>44412907
I get it, per capita is a hard thing to grasp

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>>44411293
>>44411266
>What causes this phenomenon
Reality. When you are actually an oppressed minority, you don't get to hold onto luxury beliefs like racial equality.

>>44412918
>xhe said the other line!

>>44412907
Putting a "muh" in front of something doesn't constitute an argument.

>>44412924
and you demonstrated you don't understand stats or per capita. these are not actual concepts to be understood but semiotic triggers that allow you to ignore and move on, because you are retarded

>>44412921
Question: Are you against black LGBT people facing violence (whether from homophobic black people or white people), or is it deserved because they're black?

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>>44412918
>>44412934
yes rightards, i understand per capita as a statistical concept. i just don't believe in collective criticism of a group based on the actions of a few (yes, even if it is heckin 14%!)

and yes i believe that the other way around too, like all white people shouldn't be considered bad for something only certain whites did. you anons in particular suck tho

>>44412955
They don't want that, kek. They want to bring up 13/50, but don't want anyone to talk about the transgender sex crime problem, narcissistic personality disorder problem, grooming problem, etc.
Why do all of these people think people should be bigoted toward others on principle, but make an exception for them?

>>44412955
oh please. middle class black women commit violent offenses at rates higher than lower class white men

according to you we can recognize this fact but we should never do anything about it because that would be icky and mean

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>>44411266
Sorry but if you unironically hate black people as a legbutt you deserve to have your rights taken away lmao. Conversion therapy but just specifically for you faggots.

>>44412972
>middle class black women commit violent offenses at rates higher than lower class white men
What are you basing this off of?

>>44412963
>Why do all of these people think people should be bigoted toward others on principle, but make an exception for them?
this is the stance of easily like 75%+ of americans

>>44411266
Gay people are not uniquely racist

>>44412972
I think building policy around statistical behaviors of certain ethnic groups is probably not a can of worms (You) want to open, desu

>>44412955
>i just don't believe in collective criticism of a group based on the actions of a few
>criticism
I'm not assigning moral blame. Some blacks, I'm sure, are fine people. They just don't belong in white societies.
>>44412954
I'm against that too, obviously. But black people, being relatively low IQ and predisposed to mindless violence due to the evolutionary environment they adapted to, are always going to be violent hazards to everyone around them. I can't save blacks from themselves.

>>44413001
No, I really do actually.

That's an amusing defense though. "If we do anything about the chimps people might want to do something about the perverts next and I'm a pervert so that's bad!" Turbokek

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>>44412978
>>44412907
Black LGBTs are Black before they are LGBT. No group shows more in-group preference than blacks. These responses help answer OPs question.

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>>44411266
>What causes this phenomenon /lgbt/ (tttt)
tacit encouragement by a large audience

>>44413044
and you think you'd be safe, mr. "i post on the faggot board"? lol/lmao/etc.

>>44413059
You really think this is an argument and not you telling on yourself? You're probably a predator based on how much you want society to be a disordered free for all, easier for you to operate

>>44413017
Some transgender people might be fine people, but they don't belong in female spaces. Transgender people are a demographic predisposed to sexual and physical violence and various mental illness, both as a result of their own environment and their genetics. Male violence and anger is also a significant concern for women, who are physically weaker than men on average (even when HRT is brought into the picture). In general, disrupting one's hormones makes a person more unpredictable by design. Gay men are typically not on HRT at all, and often pose a risk to male children. For some reason, being white did not stop the white gay man from recklessly spreading HIV among his own community, and what's unique to them is that they literally created a "fetish subculture" around it called "bugspreading".It is of peak benefit to well-functioning, white and right wing societies to be both homophobic and transphobic. There is also VERY good reason to be distrusting of transgender people who keep their phalluses. Please don't be selfish.

>>44411266
>two groups who are discriminated upon to hold solidarity and this isn’t the case
One group is discriminated against unfairly.
Another group is group is given enormous privileges despite being anti-social elements, yet will still burn down cities in unholy chimpouts when held to account, even a little.

>>44413080
Well the difference is I used citable statistics to back my argument, you just posted an unintelligible wall of assmad.

>>44413080
I support a middle ground where faggotry is legally tolerated but socially frowned upon

No more conventions and parades, we just keep it to ourselves like the good ol' days. Most fags, given the option, never chose conventional lifestyles anyway.

>>44412986
75% of people desu

>>44413068
Oh you wanna talk about "telling on yourself?" Your eagerness to point at others and go "see they're the problem" indicates some amount of guilt within you, almost like you know on some level that you're garbage and feel the need to project that feeling outwards.
But yeah just keep calling me a predator I guess, how can I possibly counter that argument, right?

>>44413080
Proof that foid misandry is the dominant ideology of society. Trannies think they are dysphoric over not being a woman. But really, because they face the greatest anti-male persecution as nd males. Misandry all the way down. Fuck you and anyone who thinks like you. Your matriarchy will be destroyed and women will be put into their place.

>>44413097
There is citable data on transgender people and their higher rates of mental illnesses, homosexual rape and pedophilia rates, HRT not reducing male strength, etc. Any TERF community will help you with that, but you keep pushing to get their sites (and any women's space where concern is raised) taken down.
The gay community has discussed bugspreading at length in their own spaces, there's even a documentary on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cu03LOQS04
Nothing in my post was designed to come off as mad, I am kindly requesting that the LGBT community put their own desires aside for the good of the west, much like it should with minorities.

>>44413116
>no u

lel

enjoy prison, sicko-child

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>>44413129
>enjoy prison, sicko-child
you're insane bro

>>44413127
Die misandrist foid

>>44413127
>I totally have sources they're all just completely unavailable, conveniently
>just trust me bro
Back in my day you freaks would at least post a conveniently unsourced infographic. Can't even muster up the effort to photoshop something, kids these days.

>>44413126
I'm aware of the misogyny issue as well. It's another reason men do not belong in women's spaces. I hope that you will not be hypocritical. The tranny issue must be looked at similarly to the black issue. It's actually easier, because you can always just detransition, stay where you belong and respect decent society. Your refusal to do so is antisocial by nature. Living openly as trans or gay is indicative of a nest of issues that you refuse to address.
I have been given no reason that this treatment is unfair to you, but fair to black people. Both are fine.

>>44413111
Correct, but naturally, there should be legal protections for women's spaces.

>>44413126
What has this thread devolved into

>>44413166
I am not a tranny, dipshit. Sorry, you get pushback for forcing every space to allow women from bars to hangouts to domestic violence shelters (even mens bathrooms and locker rooms have been sued by women to allow access). There are no spaces where a male (like me) who experienced rape and sexual assault at the hands of a female can ever be 100% safe from them. You are getting your precious "women's only spaces" of which there are infinitely many taken away because of Karma. Feminists fucked around and then they found out. Male resentment will get 100x worse in the next 10 years.

>>44413150
Why would I need to photoshop graphs? These are things the community even discusses. For example:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6830528/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4301205/
I won't do your homework for you, zoomie. Understand that people are against these things for a reason.

>>44413179
proof that humanity doesn't deserve to exist

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Sometimes it makes me happy to think about how racist trannies have basically no support network and struggle to feel a sense of community. I want those stupid fags to feel as isolated and blackpilled as possible, as the realization slowly dawns on them that they will never achieve their utopia of "we accept trannies BUT NEVER NONWHITES" (as this is a fundamentally disjointed political philosophy that almost no one, except racist troons, believes in)
Heartwarming!

>>44413200
This is pure word salad and schizophrenia, anon. I'm saying that men don't belong in women's spaces. It doesn't matter if you're gay and want to sleep with men. I'm sorry you got raped, but that doesn't mean you belong in women's bathrooms. No women want to enter a male domestic violence shelter for obvious reasons. Homosexual adult men are a risk to male children, and that's a fact backed up by data.
Once again, if it's good for black people, it's good for you. You're just being hypocritical if you're against this basic logic.

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>>44413202
Look up female rape rates then. Why are you allowed in our spaces when you are gigarapesists? Disgusting foids.
Get out of spaces first, and then we'll get trannies out of yours. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/

>>44413231
The number of female-on-male rapists is significantly lower than the number of male-on-female ones, but I agree that men should be less okay with women raping them. Just because you allow it for yourselves doesn't mean society has to be rape4rape.
I'm not a rapist, so I have no interest in defending female rapists. If you are a rapist, I understand why you might defend male rapists. Very disgusting image you've attached, by the way. Saved and will eventually show to my non-homophobic friends and discuss how it's what gay men disseminate and believe.

>>44413223
you can literally just repeat their own logic back to them, and they lose their minds because they can't argue lol

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>>44413179
What? Are people not allowed to discuss misandry? I.E. the reason nuerodivergent males like you trooned out. Because women taught you you were a rapist from birth. Because you were treated as a rapist from birth. Because women took away every male right and gave women infinite privilege (DEI, preferential hiring, college grants, employment hiring favoritism, infinite welfare, infinite business grants for women). You aren't a woman. You are a male, raped by misandrist violence. Broken by a matriarchal, gynocratic society that raped you from birth.

Everything feminists say is false. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/
https://promalecollective.com/

>>44413268
Do you think I'm talking about you?

>>44413268
ok but what are your thoughts on black ppl

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>>44413246
You are a rapist dipshit. Feminists fought for women on men rape to be classified differently, subhuman creature. Female on male rape is called "made to penetrate"

>>44413281
No, it sounds like you're a rapist. No one but a rapist would get so upset when rape stats are discussed.
You can't say "All rape is wrong" for a reason.

>>44413292
You think female on male rape isn't wrong? If the male victim hasn't been penetrated. You fucking retarded bitch. This is why men are so blackpilled nowadays. You couldn't be happy with infinitely many more rights then men, you had to rub it in our faces

>>44413278
I don't like them anymore than any race. Black women are extremely misandrist and violent animals that sick black men onto everyone they dislike. I am okay with Black men in isolation, but they are too animalistic around Black females.

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>>44412978
>you deserve your rights taken away
big talk from someone whos going to have their EBT revoked next month lol

>>44413308
>You think female on male rape isn't wrong?
It is wrong. All rape is wrong. Why are you against this statement, and why did you post an image trying to defend CSA here >>44413231?

>>44413323
That was ironic, dipshit. That guy is a feminist and transphobe like you retard. It was an irony post.

Unfortunately, the government stopped tracking "made to penetrate" (female on male rape), but from the years we have made to penetrate is actually more common than "rape". You are a disingenuous POS. And yes, I am a rape victim. I was raped by my mother and that sparked my resentment of females (the way many "feminists" use their personal experience to resentment males.

>>44413345
That sucks that you were raped, but it's important that you know I don't actually care about any of this shit. I'm just here to make fun of racist trannies.

>>44413345
Calling Bailey a feminist is weird. He's just a disgusting creep.

>>44413371
Explain in more detail as to why you dislike them not that I disagree I’m just curious because this seems to be their habitat

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>>44413386
Anyone who isn't actively anti-misandry is a feminist at this point. Same as how liberals say anyone who isn't actively anti-racist is racist except true (whatever that means because racism doesn't work like that).

>>44413391
Basically, they're just hypocritical, retarded and obnoxious. They always want to have it both ways. I hate seeing "cis" people (men or women) and minorities engage in the same behaviors, too.

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>>44411266
I honestly have no clue why but black people have historically been really nice to me
>t. white boymoder

>>44413418
I am cis. Yes, I know people have impersonated me while I was banned from posting. Including a self-hating tranny. Nothing I can do about that tripfag who uses my name. I am a different person. This is also a name, so I could easily be different posters.

>>44413398
That's dumb

>>44411266
>anti black inclusive people
majority of inclusive people are anti white

>>44413450
Well. The fact is that society despises men. It views them as useless. Even the average pro-male position is just feminism repackaged. It is also worth mentioning homophobia and transphobia, feminists often gaslight that those prejudices actually come from misogyny, while in reality they originate from misandry.

Gay men are not hated for “being seen as women”, they are being hated because they refuse to pander to women and instead get with other men(same reason why porn and masturbation is attacked). Same goes for feminine men in general, they are hated for leaving the male slave role and “usurping” the privileged female role.

As for trans women, they are not attacked because they’re seen as women, they’re attacked for being seen as “men in dresses”, which is obvious in transphobic rhetoric. Men who attack gay men, feminine men, and trans women, tend to also worship women and the feminine aesthetic(but only when done by women). It’s like how medieval peasants were not allowed to dress as the nobility. This is why concepts like transmisogyny are completely invalid.

I hold the only coherent and correct position possible. Against male slavery

>>44411266
Honestly it's easy to be racist as an LGBT person because the entire planet and every race hates LGBT people. I'm a little racist, but I try to fight against it because I don't like that part of me and I want to like everyone. It's just a little hard when you see groups of people hating trans people so much. The groups that make me the most nervous are black people, middle eastern people and poor white people. My fighting against it is I'll be friendly and assume they are gonna be nice first, but I'm on guard ready for something bad to come out of their mouth or a disgusted look. Any group of men scare me though because they will feel emboldened to say something or maybe physically do something.