Anyone who studied human biology knows there is much more variation within males than there is within females.Men vary in intelligence, body/height, interests etc. while women tend to be closer to average and are much more similar to one another. Despite all of this, majority of trans people are actually ftm.(lmao)It's kind of an open secret but pooners aren't at all masculine in their interests/appearance/behaviour and their need for poonerism is rooted in their socialization or problems with it.Sure, you can make the same argument for software dev transbian types (that they are just regular men with socialization problems) but rest of mtf trannies are often feminine even in childhood and would stay being feminine while alone on an empty island, which is not the case for pooners which wouldn't poon out if they just had different friends on discord.Additionally, femininity is passive/consumerist while masculinity is active/productive which results in former being much easier to perform than latter.
For example, it's easy to be into fashion, buying clothes and wearing them but it's harder to be a welder. In their free time, pooners would rather play Sims than weld stuff.Even when they have masculine interests, like guns, pooners are all about BUYING guns to show them off, just consuming like foids they are for social points in a way much more similar to mentioned fashion, they are much less into productive things like gunsmithing. (That applies to every masculine interest/hobby pooners pretend to have)Act of taking hormones itself is feminine and passive, just another way of consoooming instead of actually creating stuff which would be masculine.To be fair, i don't see as many poons claiming to be real men as troons claiming to be real women but still. Poons should just admit that they are women that want to be quirky to gain social points rather than actual trans people.
>>44415770>>44415775pretty much. the most "masculine" thing pooners talk about from their childhood is usually at 2nd stage puberty (12-14) pretend raping their female friends who laugh it off or their supposed "male socialization" experience which is just some cat fight on the bus with another woman lol
>>44415770>It's kind of an open secret but pooners aren't at all masculine in their interests/appearance/behaviour and their need for poonerism is rooted in their socialization or problems with it.90% of MtFs aren't at all feminine in their interests, appearance or behaviour either.
>>44415840I already addressed this in:>Sure, you can make the same argument for software dev transbianHowever, because of large variation within males, there are males that are very feminine in their interests and behaviour even before starting puberty. The way they talk or move is often feminine as well.Have anyone ever seen a female that talks or moves like a boy during or before puberty? Even when pooners grow a beard they keep being feminine in their interests/manerisms, there is no comparison.
>>44415943how many pooners have you met i grew up with people constantly telling me i was unbecoming of a girl with the way i act
Pooners in the sense of that specific "trans" identity just didn't exist online in any spaces or cultures until tumblr warped the brains of delusional teenage girls around 2010-2014. Then the seeds of social contagion spread like fire because of 4th wave feminism, MtFs getting a boost after gay marriage and all that LGBT inclusivity bullshit corporations shilled strongly toward the end of the 2010s.If you're old enough to remember older 4chan or net culture before twitter got big big around 2017 or before the facebook invasion in 2011 you know what I'm talking about./b/ and other porn boards used to have "reverse traps" that were the same archetype of underaged theyfab ftfemboy tiktok bisexual attention whores shitting up real trap threads. That was it. they didn't exist in any capacity outside of extremely niche porn circles in hentai or buck angel. All the fujos jerking their beans to gay porn back then weren't pooning out or larping as men either. So.. why did pooners just spawn out of nowhere despite being historically irrelevant in trans cases since forever? because for the 2 seconds trans women got more attention than cis women in the social meta something subconsciously in their brains broke that told them "we need to tear that competition down and steal the attention back". all of a sudden around 2017-18, even on this very board pooners EXPLODED everywhere throwing their asses in a circle for that sweet sweet social validation for being brave and trans. Now nearly a decade later as transgenderism is hitting an exhaustion point in the public conscious they're all detrans'ing either out of highschool or in their later 20s crying on video regurgitating terf rhetoric throwing trans women under the bus because teet of clout went dry and their terminally foid brains are incapable of taking responsibility or accountability for its own actions. Fuck pooners they deserve every day of hate they get.
Uh, I have this person by my side and "she" is always talking about how he wished he'd be a man, constantly fantasizing about overpowering others and for some reason he has a strange fixation on male genitalia. He is repping and I doubt he'll ever transition but he's basically a man but I understand what you are saying, if you saw him you'd never believe me, he's so girly.
>>44416317good post actually
>>44416182I have a close family member that is a pooner and i spent entire childhood with her, seeing her often up until covid started.>She was always playing with girl toys>She had very feminine taste in music>She was playing Sims and some game about taking care of horses while i was playing games like Far Cry and Battlefield>She loved to take care of little animals and could easily cry while just thinking about suffering of animals>She has far-left political beliefsand so on. Only "masculine" trait she had was her way of clothing which were usually hoodies/baggy clothes and not dresses. She pooned out in adulthood, declaring herself to be attracted to women (which i know is bullshit) and started hitting the gym after taking T (lmao). She also has liberal parents that never forced her into femininity.I am sure every pooner will claim to act unbecoming of a girl trough childhood/puberty but really it should be some family member that is not afraid of offending the poon that should state that.
>>44415770>>44415826Idk where I fit in this. I grew up almost exclusively hanging around neighborhood boys until puberty. Once dysphoria got bad I basically isolated myself and didn't really socialize with anyone. My interests now are stuff like aviation basketball soccer games and cars. Not exactly welding. Interesting how trupoons are mapped on here
>>44416424i mean its not our fault we have a disturbing number of wannabes infesting our space lmao. its not like trans men are happy about the 'just be a feminine man, dood!' people either. kinda bold to call bullshit on every single ftm ever though
>>44416364I think it's actually quite often for pooners that they see women as weak and their desire to be men comes from a desire to feel powerful. That's not what being trans is though, i wish i was as strong as a gorilla but that does not mean i will change my name to Mr. Gorilla and dress up in Gorilla suit to pretend i am one
>>44416489Trvke.
>>44415770>pooners aren't at all masculine in their interests/appearance/behaviourStop hanging out with white people and Genshin impact latinos and you'll solve this problem
>>44416317trvke. mass communication is poisonous to women because their in-group conformism causes massive schisms in social norms. Its arguably useful when its contained (aka religious women) for the good of gatekeeping crazies out of society but when let left unchecked to fester it manifests into exactly what tumblr, reddit and twitter (after the tumblr exodus pre-elon) became, or worse they just flip a switch and vote hitler into power. What you said is also why cislesgen, femrepgen and /ftmg/ are dead now. we beat them into submission so badly in debates they all ran off to their safe spaces on discord because women can't take criticism or confrontation in an open playing field like 4chan. MtFs won.
>>44415770>Additionally, femininity is passive/consumerist while masculinity is active/productive which results in former being much easier to perform than latter.Now that's a truth nuke
>>44416182Being a tomboy doesn't make you a man. Failing to perform an oppressive gender role doesn't make you a man.>>44416424>She also has liberal parents that never forced her into femininity.This is me. Cisf tomboy, never traditionally feminine on appearance and only mildly feminine hobbies (art, gardening). Parents never cared. If they had forced me to be more girly in might have pooned out
>>44416724didnt know tomboys were infamous for pooning outthe entire point is that masculine pooners existcool that you dont experience sex dysphoria though
>>44416769Lesbian communities are in shambles because all the butch girls are pooning out
>>44415770>retarded think piece based on uhhh trust me bro and anecdotes about women/pooners>0 relevant biology>written by a cisoidIn the trash it goes
>>44416816dont care, any non dysphoric transitioner deserves whats coming at them
>>44415770>>44415775>>44415943>>44416317Sometimes I genuinely question whether you people are capable of intelligent thought. Ciscattle don't deserve to live
>>44416842You are free to give your own takes on biology and disprove me but once you start looking into it you will realize i am right.But you actually don't want a discussion and you just look for excuses to avoid it>uhh it was not written by a pooner!!!Yeah okay dood
>>44416865You seem to be mad at something other than what anon was talking about
>>44416938and there she goes, look at her! shes making fun of cis men! their small penises! female-coded insults coming at you like a hurricane.
>>44415770they're real because they exist. are you retarded?
>>44416967the entire point of this thread is that no poon is actually transsexual i think its entirely in relation to what anon was talking about. why would transsexual men be responsible for women who cant figure themselves out
>>44416938Enlighten us with your own intelligent thoughts then.This is another example of pooners not being real men, actual men don't care who is talking, they only care if the words are true or not.>but you are cis!!!Only women and mtf trannies care about that
>>44416938They're writing whole think pieces and essays
>>44416842Real>>44416938They really aren’t, it’s amazing and sad. They are NPCs
why do popners say dood?
>>44416816Imagine being attracted to women
>>44417125>actual men don't care who is talkingI do care and can't stand listening to women speak for more than 30 seconds.
>>44417125Why would I put effort into devising a counter argument when I can just call your post retarded?Your post is the /lgbt/ equivalent of smearing shit on the walls of the disabled toilet
>>44417546>Why would i put effort and think if i can just play into every female stereotype and emotionally throw insults every time i read something that makes me feel badPooners have 0 self awareness, you are just proving my point
>>44415775What if I do knitting I am creating stuff :3
>>44417715 I wouldn't start debating a low functioning autist who just started throwing his poop
>>44416317posts that should be on 4tran
>>44415770If it weren’t so humiliating to be a short trans male in any sort of trade, I would have just went to trade school at 18. Instead I have waited, and im still waiting to feel/appear male enough to not get looked down upon for not being a normal woman. There are lots of women in trade too, but I’m not feminine or a regular dyke. I’m not latino, I don’t have any men in a trade in my family to guide me. I stick out and feel like I have perverse motives for attempting to enter the workforce as a man. My hesitation makes it look even more suspicious. Everything is so fucked up and retarded.
